[05:55] <Tm_T> chrisccoulson_: ah, thanks for the answer
[05:55] <Tm_T> now I have to figure out how I can have beta and stable running in production environment (:
[07:33] <chrisccoulson_> Tm_T, you can't really. even if you download the build from mozilla.org, they will share profile data
[07:33] <chrisccoulson_> making them parallel installable requires some pretty nasty hacks in our packages which makes us unable to use them for any sort of meaningful testing
[07:33] <chrisccoulson_> in addition to not being able to use the proper branding
[07:34] <chrisccoulson_> in the future, whats in the beta channel (and our firefox-next PPA) is basically what is going to end up in the distro
[07:35] <chrisccoulson_> so it's a fairly key part of our QA now
[09:16] <fta> gasp, i should not have rebooted. it's unusable now.
[09:55] <fta> dpm, hi. could you please answer http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=83397 ?
[09:57] <dpm> fta, sure, on it
[10:07] <Tm_T> chrisccoulson_: ah, I might end up doing some mix of installing on different prefix and using other profile/user account
[10:44] <dpm> fta, ok, answered, thanks for the heads up
[12:21] <bhearsum> chrisccoulson_: am now
[12:29] <chrisccoulson_> bhearsum, are you responding to my ping from a few days ago?
[12:29] <chrisccoulson_> i can't remember what that was for now ;)
[12:30] <bhearsum> yeah :P
[14:02] <chrisccoulson_> bhearsum, https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/firefox-aurora
[14:02] <chrisccoulson_> nothing in there yet though ;)
[14:03] <chrisccoulson_> i will start some builds after the next merge
[14:03] <bhearsum> oh, sweet!
[17:07] <Saamm> how can I install xul-notify extension in Firefox 4. It works with firefox 3
[17:07] <micahg> Saamm: you can't, it's been abandoned upstream
[17:07] <Saamm> oh
[17:08] <Saamm> Too bad it was good extension. Is there a way to update it?
[17:08] <micahg> actually, I think Debian bumped the compatability version in their last upload, but idk if it actually will work
[17:09] <Saamm> Can you give the link to updated package.
[17:10] <micahg> Saamm: oh, maybe not, was only bumped to 3.6
[17:11] <Saamm> :( Thanks anyway
[17:29] <chrisccoulson_> bumping the compatibility won't work, it's using interfaces that have been removed
[17:29] <chrisccoulson_> (nsIExtensionManager)
[17:51] <chrisccoulson_> jeez, mozvoikko doesn't appear to be very well maintained
[17:51] <chrisccoulson_> i'm really not sure what we're going to do about that
[17:52] <micahg> chrisccoulson_: talk to dpm and see if he can drum up interest?
[17:54] <chrisccoulson_> i'm going to try and reimplement it in JS
[17:54] <fta> \o/ i restored my desktop to a sane state
[17:54] <fta> no more blue
[17:55] <fta> and far less light grey
[17:55] <chrisccoulson_> fta - i haven't done any more updates since i upgraded to oneiric last week
[17:55] <fta> yesterday, they broke everything
[17:55] <chrisccoulson_> my machine is *barely* working already, i'm not sure i want to break it further ;)
[17:55] <fta> what's broken?
[17:55] <micahg> gdm is totally broke on oneiric AFAICT, I switched to kdm for the moment
[17:55] <fta> it's quite ok here
[17:56] <micahg> then the dependencies aren't correct
[17:56]  * micahg is using xubuntu
[18:04] <chrisccoulson_> w00t, mozvoikko builds again
[18:04] <chrisccoulson_> now to see if it actually works
[18:04] <chrisccoulson_> although, i have no idea how to test it really. i guess i need to be finnish
[18:06] <chrisccoulson_> well, finnish spellchecking works
[18:06] <chrisccoulson_> i guess it's good then
[18:41] <m_conley> chrisccoulson_: ping
[18:41] <chrisccoulson_> hi m_conley
[18:41] <m_conley> chrisccoulson_: hey - was wondering if you'd had a chance to look at unitylauncher-extension yet
[18:42] <chrisccoulson_> m_conley, i was going to wait until we got tbird 3.3 in the archive
[18:42] <m_conley> chrisccoulson_: ah, ok - that's fine.
[18:42] <m_conley> chrisccoulson_: other question:  have you been able to get Chromebug working in 3.3 yet?
[18:42] <chrisccoulson_> i haven't tried recently
[18:42] <m_conley> chrisccoulson_: alright.  I just miss my favourite tool. :)
[18:43] <chrisccoulson_> m_conley, it still doesn't work?
[18:44] <m_conley> chrisccoulson_: for me, no. crashes on startup.
[20:01] <chrisccoulson_> b'ah, we still have far too many extensions in lucid and maverick
[20:01] <chrisccoulson_> i can see my free time this cycle rapidly disappearing
[20:14] <micahg> chrisccoulson_: I'll take some of them
[22:14] <fta> hm, the chromium builds are starting to timeout a lot at build time on amd64 maverick and lucid
[22:14] <fta> i guess it's time to move to ld-gold
[22:15] <fta> BUGabundo, ola
[22:17] <BUGabundo> hey folks
[22:18] <BUGabundo> fta: hey. is it chromium or is 11.10 messing with the X?
[22:18] <BUGabundo> I see HUGE red squares
[22:18] <fta> BUGabundo, did you upgrade today?
[22:18] <BUGabundo> where used to be buttons
[22:18] <fta> screenshot
[22:18] <BUGabundo> fta: fully upgraded
[22:18] <BUGabundo> pidgin is missing icons too
[22:18] <BUGabundo> so im blaming 11.10
[22:18] <fta> that's gnome3
[22:19] <BUGabundo> ahh
[22:19] <fta> do you have gnome-themes-standard?
[22:19] <fta> show me
[22:19] <BUGabundo> let me see
[22:20] <BUGabundo> The following NEW packages will be installed:
[22:20] <BUGabundo>   gnome-themes-standard
[22:20] <BUGabundo> The following partially installed packages will be configured:
[22:20] <BUGabundo>   gnome-icon-theme{b} totem totem-mozilla totem-plugins totem-plugins-extra
[22:20] <BUGabundo> 0 packages upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 15 not upgraded.
[22:20] <BUGabundo> Need to get 903 kB of archives. After unpacking 6,058 kB will be used.
[22:20] <BUGabundo> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[22:20] <BUGabundo>   gnome-icon-theme: Depends: libgtk-3-bin but it is not going to be installed.
[22:20] <BUGabundo> YAY for broken depencies
[22:27] <fta> you have something wrong
[22:28] <fta> it's all installable here
[22:28] <fta> 15 not upgraded is not good
[22:31] <BUGabundo> it wants to remove 34 packages :S
[22:31] <BUGabundo> heck
[22:31] <BUGabundo> let me do it!
[22:31] <BUGabundo> Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?]
[22:31] <BUGabundo> a BIG YES
[22:32] <BUGabundo> The following packages will be REMOVED:
[22:32] <BUGabundo>   apturl{a} banshee{a} banshee-extension-soundmenu{a} banshee-extension-ubuntuonemusicstore{a} brasero{a} empathy{a} empathy-common{u}   eog{a} evince{a} evince-dbg{a} evolution-webcal{u} gir1.2-totem-1.0{u} gir1.2-totem-plparser-1.0{u} gnome-applets{a}   gnome-codec-install{a} gnome-control-center{a} gnome-icon-theme{a} gnome-panel{a} gnome-screensaver{a} gnome-session{a}   gnome-themes-ubuntu{a} humanity-icon-theme{a} indicator-a
[22:54] <[reed]> what's the package that contains the gpg keys for the various ubuntu repos?
[23:05] <chrisccoulson_> micahg, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/FirefoxUpgradeChecklist/5.0
[23:07] <chrisccoulson_> [reed], those are shipped with apt i think
[23:08] <chrisccoulson_> /usr/share/apt/ubuntu-archive.gpg
[23:09] <[reed]> seems like also ubuntu-keyring
[23:54] <micahg> chrisccoulson_: thanks for setting that up
[23:57] <micahg> chrisccoulson_: I want to confirm with jdstrand, but I'm ok with uploading empty packages for the extensions in universe in lucid and maverick with a debconf prompt saying that people should install them from addons.mozilla.org
[23:58] <chrisccoulson_> micahg, i think if we ship the xpi's in /usr/lib/firefox-5.0/distribution, then they get installed to the profile on the next restart instead
[23:58] <chrisccoulson_> where they will be managed by the addons-manager
[23:59] <micahg> chrisccoulson_: so basically, this'll then be the last update we have to do for them?
[23:59] <chrisccoulson_> micahg, if it works ;)
[23:59] <micahg> ok, well, let's test that theory then :)