[00:08] <kdub> hello
[00:11] <DarkwingDuck> Hows life?
[00:12] <kdub> pretty good, yourself?
[00:14] <DarkwingDuck> Can't complain.
[00:14] <DarkwingDuck> Things are leveling out nicly.
[00:15] <kdub> yeah, thats a good word to describe my situation i'd think
[00:15] <kdub> probably past due for another SD ubuntu-hour
[00:16] <DarkwingDuck> Yeah.
[00:16] <DarkwingDuck> I have Natty CDs too.
[00:16] <DarkwingDuck> We need to put one together.
[00:16] <DarkwingDuck> You guys did it downtown last time right?
[00:41] <kdub> la jolla, specifically that shopping center by utc
[00:41]  * kdub feels the need for community leadership guidance on ubuntu hours... pleia2 jono  :D
[00:42] <kdub> we've only been getting a paltry amount of new peeps each time
[00:44] <nhaines> That's as big as they get.
[00:46] <kdub> in ubuntu-mi, we'd get a fair amount more, can't put my finger on why
[00:46] <kdub> i think the 'hook' for coming needs to be stronger
[00:47] <kdub> like 'come on down and chat about ubuntu' isn't particularly strong. thats what we're doing here, without having to go down to starbucks :P
[00:47] <akk> What was the hook in mi?
[00:48] <kdub> beer :)
[00:49] <kdub> that and, it tended to be a broader topics we'd get into. like tech-holy-war discussions, side projects, startups
[00:51] <akk> That's true of the UHs here too.
[00:51] <akk> "Come hang out with ubuntu people in person and talk about whatever, which will likely include ubuntu."
[00:52] <akk> Much like IRC!
[00:52] <kdub> i just feel like there's a moderately small tweak to the structure that could be made, that would attract a lot more people
[00:52] <kdub> i just don't know what that is yet :P
[02:48] <crashsystems> hello world
[17:20] <pleia2> kdub: not much leadership guidance needed for ubuntu hours, they aren't meant to be huge affairs really, just being available and approachable
[17:23] <kdub> yeah, still would be nice to draw a bigger crowd in though :P
[17:25] <nhaines> Rather than trying to make an Ubuntu Hour what it wasn't designed to be, perhaps you could organize a different kind of event that would attract more people?
[17:26] <kdub> yeah, thats what i'm thinking
[17:27] <nhaines> kdub: oh.  I was confused because what you said was that you wanted community leadership guidance in order to make Ubuntu Hours bigger.
[17:35] <MarkDude> kdub, We have had a really good turnout when we showed Creative Commons movies
[17:36] <kdub> hmm, thats not a bad idea.  need a different venue for that i think
[17:36] <MarkDude> Good Copy Bad Copy is a movie that explains a bit of background for some
[17:37] <MarkDude> And makes it easier to understand FOSS in general
[17:38] <MarkDude> We have a coffee shop that has TVs on the wall- they allow us to plug in computers for showing movies- and also playing a few games
[17:38] <MarkDude> promoting Stellarium also works
[17:38] <MarkDude> Good luck with it
[17:43] <pleia2> kdub: hackerspaces tend to be good venues
[17:44] <kdub> i like that idea
[17:44] <kdub> we don't have any hackerspaces as far as i know, but we do have coffeeshops
[17:44] <pleia2> and back in philly we had team members who would offer up space where they worked for installfests, but we were fortunate to have a lot of people working at places with big conference rooms that they let a bunch of strange people in to after hours :)
[17:44] <pleia2> kdub: san diego?
[17:45] <akk> Don't most people in hackerspaces already know about linux and ubuntu?
[17:45] <pleia2> akk: it's just a venue that tends to be free
[17:45] <nhaines> akk: presumably he's either looking for venue options, or looking for people who already know about Linux and Ubuntu.
[17:45] <kdub> pleia2: yep
[17:46] <pleia2> the hackerspace people can come too if they want :) but most of the people who came to our noisebridge installfest had never been there before
[17:46] <pleia2> kdub: http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/San_Diego
[17:46] <kdub> nucleon is new, when i moved here there weren't any
[17:47] <pleia2> yeah, they are popping up like crazy
[17:47] <kdub> maybe i'll head down and check them out today
[17:47] <pleia2> \o/
[17:48] <kdub> that at least sounds like a plan, looks like a place worth checking out at any rate
[17:55] <kdub> its always been tricky finding a useful thing to do for the community
[18:02] <kdub> crud, that space all the way out in santee :P
[18:18] <MarkDude> kdub, Im telling ya- the coffee shop is a good ally- we can even get mail there- they just gave us the ok to have booze there after hours
[18:19] <MarkDude> A backup might be finding someone with a 27"+ monitor or maybe a projector
[18:20] <MarkDude> Also- having a laptop or 2 with a few kids games is something to let folks know ahead of time- more people come if they know their kids are considered
[18:22] <kdub> sounds like you'd have to have a pretty solid connection with the coffeehouse owner
[18:36] <MarkDude> kdub, it developed over time
[18:36] <MarkDude> Owners are REALLY open to welcoming groups
[18:36] <kdub> yeah, we've been bouncing around between starbucks, maybe picking one smaller place would be something to work towards
[18:36] <MarkDude> Coffee shops have sloooow times-
[18:36] <MarkDude> Even Starbucks nearby said we could use their place
[18:37] <MarkDude> the trick is using the times they have free
[18:58] <MarkDude> https://www.facebook.com/?ref=logo#!/event.php?eid=193922473965531 VJ Um Amel will be doing a show in SoCal
[19:00] <MarkDude> She combines data and computer KungFu to make some cool visuals. I saw her at TEDxHayward
[19:02] <MarkDude> Her visualization of what the world said using social media on the day Mubarak left is great
[21:54] <nhaines> Ooh, Fedora 15 just released.
[22:01] <MarkDude> akk, I tagged your plants on FB I have a hummingbird plant for you- it is just starting to bloom. The little start is chocolate mint- you still want them?
[22:02] <MarkDude> It's name is Verne- unfortunately people did NOT vote for the other proposed name *Beefy Miracle*- it could have been epic
[22:03] <MarkDude> http://blogs.fedoraproject.org/wp/fifthpillar/2011/04/13/verne-rly/ my post regarding the name shame.
[22:05] <akk> MarkDude: Cool! will look when I get home, don't have FB set up on this work machine.
[22:05] <MarkDude> Anyone else want any plant starts- let me know. I have some rosemary, oregano, and thyme drying - I am making Italian spices- I can give some.
[22:05] <akk> MarkDude: Don't bother holding the choc mint for me ... I don't seem to do well with it.
[22:05] <MarkDude> Since it weighs so little- I am even willing to send to you folks in SoCal
[22:09] <MarkDude> akk, I found the trick is making sure it has moisture crystals
[22:10]  * MarkDude too had it die year after year
[22:10] <MarkDude> The crystals help regulate the water
[22:16] <akk> Interesting, I'll try some!
[22:16] <akk> How often do you water, in summer when it's hot?
[22:17]  * akk prefers not to water more often than twice a week, but maybe that's unrealistic
[22:22] <MarkDude> daily
[23:15] <Eureka> wiki: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/ApprovalApplication2011 edited
[23:29] <philipballew> Eureka anything we can do to help with this?
[23:29] <Eureka> philipballew: Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[23:30] <philipballew> oh.. thats right
[23:30] <pleia2> philipballew: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-us-ca/2011-May/001691.html
[23:30] <philipballew> awesome!
[23:30] <pleia2> has all the details about reapproval :)