/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/05/24/#ubuntu-us-oh.txt

Unit193Cheri703: Lubuntu is looking to integrate accessibilty in! (Looking for a liasion now)00:15
Cheri703ah, nice00:18
Cheri703go to #ubuntu-accessibility and say that :)00:18
* Cheri703 is moving furniture :)00:18
Unit193Cheri703: No, not my place! They are going to email the ML00:19
Cheri703ok00:20
Cheri703I put the word out in the channel00:21
Unit193I was just telling you because you're part of that team, not to ask if you want to...00:21
Cheri703no worries :)00:22
* jgould puts ear plugs in and a blindfold on00:49
Unit193So we can tolk about him behind his back?00:50
jgouldI have a damn migrane00:50
Unit193Eh... I heard those are not fun...00:52
jgouldNo they aren't...  I have coffee now, so maybe that will help.  Havent' had a cup in about 4 days...00:52
jgouldMAn people are stupid00:58
* Unit193 is still here ya know? ;)01:06
jgouldHeh01:06
jgouldI'm reading the comments on this tractor-trailer accident this morning on the west side of columbus.  Some of the comments are pissing me off.  people do not understand how controlled that indrusty is.  I mean the drivers have to log when they stop to take a piss for God's sake...01:08
jgouldAlso,  if Gnome crashes on me one more time, I'm going to pull my hair out01:11
Unit193How much do you have left?01:14
jgouldUhhh..  Not much01:14
jgould:)01:14
jgouldClark county, and the two north of Clark are under a tornado warning...01:16
jgouldThat line is predicted to be near you and Cheri703 within 60 minutes01:17
Unit193jgould: Sweet! Thanks for the info...01:18
Unit193Cheri703: Did ya read the email? ;)01:19
jgouldWelcome01:19
Cheri703which?01:35
* Cheri703 didn't get an email?01:35
Unit193From Phill Whiteside01:35
* jgould creates dinner01:35
Cheri703hmm...no?01:35
* Unit193 joins jgould 01:36
Unit193Cheri703: To: ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com01:36
Cheri703hmm...I didn't get it01:37
Cheri703I'm on the list, but...01:37
Unit193(My list got it by CC )01:38
Unit193Cheri703: Sure you didn't get it?? https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-desktop/msg03994.html01:40
Cheri703https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-accessibility/2011-May/date.html01:41
Unit193Might it need approval?01:41
Cheri703no clue01:42
Unit193Yes it does01:48
Cheri703Just hit a minute ago :)01:48
Unit193Figures...01:49
jgoulddamn strms01:51
Unit193Cheri703: What do you think? Want to try? ;)01:52
Cheri703haven't read it yet01:53
Unit193Howdy dmcglone101:53
dmcglone1Hi Unit19301:53
dmcglone1what up?01:53
Unit193Doctor Who01:53
dmcglone1Doctor Who, Who?01:54
dmcglone1;-)01:54
Unit193Knock, knock01:55
dmcglone1Who's there?01:55
Unit193Doctor01:55
dmcglone1LOL01:55
dmcglone1Doctor Who?01:56
Unit193:D01:56
canthus13Heh.01:56
canthus13Always annoys me when they leave you with a cliffhanger. :/01:56
Unit193I LOVE that one...01:56
dmcglone1what show canthus13?01:56
Unit193canthus13: Latest?01:56
dmcglone1I got one for you Unit19301:57
dmcglone1a woman got caught stealing a can of peaches01:57
canthus13the latest Dr. Who episode.01:57
dmcglone1when she went to court the judge ask her how many peaches were in the can01:57
dmcglone1the woman replied 8 your honor01:57
dmcglone1so the judge said, well you are hereby sentenced to 8 days in prison01:58
dmcglone1then all the sudden her husband jumped up and said, she also stole a can of peas01:58
canthus13Heh. cute.01:58
Unit193Looks like we are getting the storm...02:00
dmcglone1blind man walks into a bar and starts swinging his dog over his head by it's leash02:00
dmcglone1bartender said "what are you doing" sir02:00
dmcglone1guy said "ah just looking around"02:01
jgould"Were those wind speeds estmated or recorded?" "I think the peak was 78 MPH"  (That's not what he asked...)02:01
dmcglone1ity02:02
dmcglone1oops02:02
dmcglone1it's pretty bad here02:02
dmcglone1I live close to scioto downs and the news just said something about their power lines were knocked down02:02
dmcglone1A sure sign the recession has hit:02:10
dmcglone1If the bank returns your check marked "Insufficient Funds," you call them and ask if they meant you or them.02:10
* jgould is hungry02:20
Unit193"Launchpad bug 784020 in Xubuntu Website "download page lies about disk size requirements" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/784020"02:22
canthus13Sounds like Xubuntu is hungry, too.02:23
Unit193canthus13: It's the installer...02:23
jgouldI love the phasing02:23
jgoulder phrasing02:23
Unit193The ubiquity installer itself sets a hard requirement of 4.4G and Xubuntu is caught in that, the alternative installer should not be impacted by the same limitation, made a note about it on the site and doing some tests.02:23
Unit193jgould: +102:23
Unit193Lubuntu folk found a way around that02:24
jgouldIf I mess with my irc.conf file for weechat, that is where things like autoconnecting and what not are, correct (I'm thinking the answer is correct, as that seems to have all of the settings for such things in it...)02:32
dmcglone1guys I need some help here. where does the comma go in this sentence?02:34
dmcglone1create a dark cloud over her head so, armed with this information, I02:34
dmcglone1is it: head, so02:34
canthus13that's not a sentence.02:34
canthus13that's a pile of words with 2 commas in it.02:34
dmcglone1canthus that was part of it02:34
canthus13Without the entire sentence, it's hard to tell.02:35
dmcglone1hang on02:35
dmcglone1Although it wasn't an easy decision, my main concern is the information that will be passed on with her into the next school year which may create a dark cloud over her head so, armed with this information, I plan to work with Amy during the summer break, and will make sure I do everything I can to see her to succeed in the 4th grade.02:35
canthus13Hmm...02:35
dmcglone1should I put the comma after "head" or after "so"02:36
dmcglone1I'm pretty sure it would be after "so"02:36
canthus13I'd put a semicolon between head and so02:37
* jgould agrees with canthus1302:37
dmcglone1I agree02:37
canthus13leave the comma after so.02:37
Cheri703I would put a period after head, and start the new sentence with Armed02:37
dmcglone1I've been freakin 20 years since I've had to sit down and write!02:37
Cheri703otherwise, that's a LONG sentence02:38
canthus13Probably the better way to go.02:38
dmcglone1true Cheri70302:38
jgouldHmm.. Good Point, Cheri70302:38
* jgould is a writer02:38
dmcglone1Thanks, I'll take Cheri703 advise02:38
canthus13dmcglone1: Just write 'Don't be messin' wit my kid. I be helpin' her fix her shit, yo.'02:39
Cheri703\o/ I win!02:39
Cheri703heh02:39
Cheri703kidding02:39
dmcglone1LOL canthus1302:39
dmcglone11,000 dollars to Cheri70302:39
Unit193canthus13: +102:39
Cheri703woo!02:39
dmcglone1canthus13: -1,00002:39
* Cheri703 will take cash or check02:39
dmcglone1lol02:39
* canthus13 wouldn't take a check.02:39
jgouldLOL02:39
Cheri703I'd wait til it cleared before spending any02:40
dmcglone1Oh man, it's been like 25 years or so since I've had to do something like that :-/02:40
jgouldI'm testing something.  BRB02:40
dmcglone1Well sent that E-Mail off02:41
dmcglone1If y'all's wondering what that was about, the school is wanting to hold Amy back, because they think she's not ready for 4th grade because she has poor organisation skills but yet she gets good grades02:43
jgouldSweet!02:43
Unit193jgould: Bad timing02:43
jgouldIve never had good organization skills... you should look at my house02:43
jgouldLOL Unit19302:43
jgoulddmcglone1: the sweet was because my settings worked, not becasue of what you said02:43
dmcglone1they think that because next year she will be switching between 4 different classes, she will not succeed02:44
jgouldActually, I take that back.  I'm organized, just not in a way that makes sense to most people02:44
dmcglone1yeah I figured that one jgould :-)02:44
dmcglone1exactly jgould02:45
dmcglone1everyone has their own system02:45
* jgould is a pile person... But I can usually find what I need in the pile02:45
dmcglone1the damn school trying to turn all these kids into government drones... LOL02:45
dmcglone1You have hell to pay around here if you think differently... LOL02:46
jgouldI agree, dmcglone102:46
dmcglone1Fuck em' all, let god sort em out!02:46
dmcglone1;-)02:46
dmcglone1canthus13: how old are your kids?02:47
jgouldcanthus13: You never did answer my question about what you do if you don't suspend...  do you log out or shut down?02:52
* jgould blinks02:59
jgouldI just got an email from Netflix asking if a movie has arrived.  (it did, today) but it gives me the options for Tomorrow and After tomorrow...02:59
Unit193jgould: He set you on /ignore ;)02:59
* dmcglone1 throws banana sat canthus1302:59
jgouldUnit193: :P03:00
dmcglone1netflix must think your a psychic now03:01
jgouldapparently...03:01
jgouldUnit193: he must have dmcglone1 on /ignore as well...03:03
paultagwhyy03:03
paultagdmcglone1 is funny03:03
Unit193He put me on way back too... ;)03:03
jgouldwhy what, paultag03:04
dmcglone1I've been down with my back all day today. I think I put it out yesterday when I took my son for a bike ride03:04
Unit193paultag is back, hide!03:04
* paultag waves03:04
dmcglone1Yo paultag03:04
paultagoy dm03:04
paultagyo dmcglone1 *03:04
paultagfucking tab key03:04
dmcglone1LOL03:04
jgouldLOL03:04
* Cheri703 is back03:04
jgouldCould be worse03:04
Unit193Howdy paultag (don't know you very well...)03:04
Cheri703was moving furniture earlier03:04
jgouldwelcome back, Cheri70303:04
Cheri703living room is more functional now03:05
paultagUnit193: :)03:05
dmcglone1Unit193: it's easy to get to know paultag, you only need to know the definition of "cool"03:05
jgouldI wish I had room to rearrange the freaking living room..03:05
paultagdmcglone1: :P03:05
paultagthanks :)03:05
Unit193Maybe if I can go to OLF this year....03:06
dmcglone1well paultag I preach it like I see it :-)03:06
paultagdmcglone1: damn skippy03:06
jgouldWhere is OLF?03:06
jgould(and wehn?)03:06
paultagc-bus03:06
dmcglone1I will absolutely be at OLF this year.03:06
paultagSeptember03:06
* jgould strokes his chin03:06
dmcglone1jgould: columbus convention center03:06
jgouldOh, a venue I know like the back of my hand03:07
dmcglone1If I'm not at OLF this year, someone please beat the crap out of my wife ;-)03:07
jgouldI can get from point A to point B in that place and never touch a common area...03:07
* paultag makes a joke about knowing the plam better03:07
jgouldLOL paultag03:07
dmcglone1everybody it's time to eat, the fork has arrived03:08
Unit193Howdy itsafork !03:08
jgouldHey, Look, It's a spork... ;)03:08
itsaforkhey i dont have any kids...03:09
itsaforkthat i'm aware of03:09
itsaforkjkjk03:09
jgouldLOl03:09
paultaghey itsafork03:09
itsaforkhow's everybody???03:09
paultagitsafork: dandy, and yourself?03:09
* dmcglone1 has 3 kids :-)03:09
Unit193We finally got a council person here! ;)03:09
jgouldI'm good03:09
* paultag thinks I don't03:10
itsaforkhey paultag, glad to hear. didn't you just graduate??03:10
paultaghe *03:10
paultagitsafork: yessir!!03:10
dmcglone1itsafork: hungary03:10
itsaforki'm doing well03:10
itsaforkpaultag: congrats!03:10
dmcglone1congrats paultag, I knew you would make it03:10
paultagitsafork: http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/230783_1455600390287_1241640883_31458164_5891133_n.jpg ← Like a boss!03:10
paultagdmcglone1: thanks so much!03:10
paultagitsafork: thank you!03:10
itsaforkpaultag: june 25 is when i finish my masters, assuming i don't fail this course.... :/03:11
paultagitsafork: rock on!!03:11
dmcglone1paultag: wasn't it that pep talk I gave you that day you were down in the dumps ;-)03:11
paultagdmcglone1: dude, totally was03:11
dmcglone1lol03:11
paultagitsafork: You'll rock it out03:11
itsaforkpaultag: very nice sir! i love me a good pipe or cigar!03:11
paultagdmcglone1: it was rough for a while03:11
paultagitsafork: had me a scotch with that too03:12
paultagoh shit, I have another03:12
paultagwho wants to join me :)03:12
paultagand my ♥ song just came up on last.fm03:12
dmcglone1paultag: think of it as an endurance test03:12
dmcglone1and you won03:12
dmcglone1:-)03:12
paultagand just got off the phone with Facebook03:12
paultaginterviewing for a dev spot03:12
paultagtoday's my day03:12
dmcglone1facebook?03:12
jgouldI have two monitors runnign and I still don't have enough screen real estate03:12
paultagOh and this awesome girl I met yesterday03:12
paultagdmcglone1: yeah :)03:12
paultagjgould: dude, I know, man03:13
paultagI had 3 for a while, and that was just enough03:13
paultagI had two landscape and one longways03:13
paultagit was great. API refs fit on the longways one really well03:13
jgouldMicrosoft says next gen windows system coming next year03:13
paultagwho the fuck cares :)03:13
dmcglone1oh hell speaking of facebook did you all hear about that new startup company like facebook, but you can charge for the content you post?03:13
paultagdmcglone1: odd03:13
paultagdmcglone1: interesting but odd03:13
paultagnot sure it'll catch on03:13
itsaforkdammit! the wife is suddenly having a party down stairs!03:14
paultagitsafork: :D03:14
dmcglone1Let me see if I can find it again03:14
paultagitsafork: BTW, your wife is a sweetheart03:14
itsaforkhow im i supposed to work on this damn thesis now!!!03:14
dmcglone1Actually paultag they had a great idea03:14
canthus13dmcglone1: banana sat? Fruit in space?03:14
paultagnot sure I ever said that03:14
paultagdmcglone1: oh?03:14
* paultag waves to canthus13 03:14
dmcglone1instead of facebook profitting of you, the poster profits too03:14
itsaforkpaultag: thanks! she really is!!03:14
dmcglone1brb03:14
paultagNo sope radio!!!03:14
paultagsoap, wow03:14
jgouldI wish I had the comptuer to power three monitors...  Perhaps I need to convert this desktop into the primary machine and then use the laptop as a mobile. (especially now that I've figured out rsync...03:14
paultagdmcglone1: well yeah, but the thing is that FB lets you "repost" easy, leading to content rich pages03:15
paultagdmcglone1: 98% of what's on reddit are re-posts (at least the popular stuff)03:15
itsaforkjgould: 3 is over kill. only need 2 & more workspaces!!!03:15
paultagno one is going to repost "feeling depressed and doing drugs"03:15
paultagthey repost "lolcats!!!!"03:15
paultagwhich is a repost03:15
jgouldI actually don't use workspaces 2-4...03:16
paultagjgould: I use all 8 :)03:16
canthus13Cheri703: Sully has his own facebook fanpage now... and a facebook account.03:16
Cheri703heh03:16
jgould(even though I've had mulitple desktops since MacOS 10.4 came out, I've never really used that feature of any OS)03:17
paultagBRB smoking tobacco outside03:17
canthus13paultag: eh... You smork?03:18
canthus13ew.03:18
canthus13nasty habit. :(I03:18
jgouldSmorking is bad for you....03:18
canthus13paultag: I'll never kiss you.03:18
itsaforkpaultag: don't worry i probably will...03:18
* Cheri703 won't kiss smokers either03:20
Cheri703just fair warning ;)03:20
Unit193I don't smork! ;)03:20
* jgould doesn't smork either03:21
* canthus13 quit several years ago, is kissable. :)03:23
paultagugh fucking rain03:23
paultagNo, I had a Cigar left over03:23
paultagI don't smoke tobacco otherwise03:23
paultagErm, wait, Hookah03:23
paultagHookah and Cigars, that's it03:24
paultagNerds, on the whole, tend to not smoke as much as the general population, I've noticed03:24
canthus13paultag: We're smarter than the general population.03:25
dmcglone1paultag: I can't find the article, it was in the news03:25
jgouldWe have better things to spend our money on.  XD03:25
paultagcanthus13: that's wicked true03:25
paultagdmcglone1: np :)03:25
paultagjgould: like new MoBos!03:25
canthus13jgould: We have more expensive things to spend our money on. :/03:25
dmcglone1I don't spend my money :-)03:25
* dmcglone1 is smart :-)03:25
canthus13dmcglone1: Liar. you have girls.03:26
canthus13There's no way you can avoid spending money.03:26
jgouldexactly.  alhtough, we can get by with older hardware in most cases because we run an OS that works and doesn't take 12GB of ram to run03:26
jgouldcanthus13: Heh03:26
jgouldHe said *He* doesn't spend his money,  the Mrs. does it for him. :)03:27
dmcglone1lol canthus1303:28
dmcglone1here's how spend thrifty I am, I am eating cereal with no milk because I'm out of milk and don't want to buy any03:28
dmcglone1LOL03:28
jgouldHeh.  I've done that03:28
jgouldIntresting... the unemployment beurau's website returns a 404 error while returning a 404 error03:29
dmcglone1thats cuz all the techs are unemployeed03:30
dmcglone1:-/03:30
jgouldHeh03:30
jgouldIt also uses Java Server Pages Which is probably running on IIS... I wouldn't trust windows as far a I could throw it03:31
Unit193It's full of bugs so it would fly right off03:31
canthus13jgould: Ohio's unemployment site is hopelessly overloaded. It does weird crap all the time.. and their phones have rolled over to sex chat lines when they were swamped before.03:31
jgouldThat's why I call right at 8AM if I need to talk to someone03:32
* canthus13 fields complaints about them regularly.03:32
jgouldDownsides of what is actually 'seasonal employment'03:32
paultagOh right that reminds me03:33
paultagthx :)03:33
dmcglone1My job is safe.03:34
dmcglone1even more so these days03:34
jgouldMine is too, I just have a 2 month gap in the winter and a 2 month gap in the summer.03:34
dmcglone1every time the economy goes bad it sends me more patients... LOL03:35
Cheri703I need to get more clients :/03:35
dmcglone1bad economy = more crazy people = more work for me03:35
dmcglone1for those of you who are thinking what the hell, I work in Home Healthcare03:37
Cheri703dmcglone1: do you do specialized stuff (like actual nursing cert) or general stuff (no special stuff)03:37
dmcglone1HHA's give daily care and meds so the nurses don't have to show up as often03:38
Cheri703hmm...ok03:38
dmcglone1you don't have to have a nursing cert03:39
dmcglone1HHA nurses come in once or twice a day and check on heath 26.00/hr03:40
Cheri703dang03:40
Unit193Not even STNA?03:40
dmcglone1HHA's make anywhere from 13 to 15/ hr03:40
Cheri703I've considered doing that in the past03:40
dmcglone1Unit193: STNA's are being phased out these days03:41
dmcglone1everything is now RN's03:41
Unit193Sometimes you have to take that just to get other stuff...03:41
dmcglone1not anymore03:41
dmcglone1OSU doesn't employee STNA's anymore, all of them are RN's03:42
dmcglone1I'm pretty sure it's not even tought in college anymore03:42
jgouldI know a nurse that is a BSN.  We started calling her a Bull Shit Nurse during the Arnold... Heh (Jokingly of course)03:45
Unit193dmcglone1: I was talking a requirement to get in the program03:46
dmcglone1right Unit193, The STNA program isn't a requirement anymore03:47
Unit193Since when? (Might be the half baked local college crap...)03:47
dmcglone1It's basically gone these days. it's either RN or nothing03:47
dmcglone1My wife and a friend of mine worked at OSU and they were studying for their RN, and thats how we found out03:49
dmcglone1My family also owns a healthcare company03:50
dmcglone1My friggin life has revolved around healthcare. I started out working in Nursing home's when I was like 1503:53
* Unit193 won't give you a shower03:55
jgouldMy grandmother worked for Riverside for 25 years (maybe it was longer than that, I know she retired from Riverside) and my aunt is an RN, so it runs in the family.  On my wife's side, her aunt is an EMT and her uncle is a Firefighter.  So on the whole, some of the conversations around the dinner table dont' even phase me any more... Like when we were eating during the Arnold and three of the nurses03:55
jgouldwere talking about thing that they coudn't stand... I'll save you guys the squeemish stuff...03:55
dmcglone1I feel ya jgould03:56
dmcglone1after a while you get pretty accustomed to bodily fluids, etc, etc03:57
jgouldYep03:57
dmcglone1On the other hand my brother in law passes out when he sees a needle03:57
dmcglone1LOL03:57
dmcglone1I really really hate giving shots though03:58
Unit193I don't like it when they poke me with them...03:58
dmcglone1and checking sugar03:58
dmcglone1but it's a job :-/03:58
* canthus13 knew a girl in college that fainted if you *said* needle.03:59
dmcglone1dang03:59
canthus13Of course, she fainted all the time...03:59
jgouldwow03:59
canthus13very low blood pressure.03:59
canthus13We got used to catching her and putting her feet up.03:59
dmcglone1thats crazy03:59
canthus13Yeah.. it'd freak people out when we were out in public.04:01
jgouldHmm... What movie to watch04:01
canthus13jgould: Clockwork Orange04:01
dmcglone1I went to Devry and I ended up in healthcare, I got my A+ about 10 year ago to try and transition out of healthcare and that hasn't even happened04:02
dmcglone1jgould: planes trains and automobils. it's hillarious04:02
jgouldI don't have either one of those04:03
dmcglone1Chevy Chase and Dan Akroid and John Candy in that movie. so damn funny04:05
dmcglone1It's a pretty old movie04:05
jgouldHmm... I can't play a DVD :(04:05
dmcglone1or Jack Nicholson in One Flew Over the Coo Coo's Nest04:06
Cheri703:D Heard from a friend I hadn't heard from in like a month...04:09
jgouldTrying to install an i386 library on a amd64 system: Fail04:09
jgouldHa! Take that you silly disk04:10
dmcglone1jgould: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEZv0FUPtcc&feature=related04:12
jgouldeh04:14
jgoulder heh04:14
dmcglone1thats one of the most hilarious movies I've ever seen04:15
jgouldI've always like Airplane!04:15
dmcglone1it doesn't show where they go to pick up their trunk and their car burst into flames04:15
dmcglone1only to find out their wallets are in the car04:16
dmcglone1another really hilarious movie is A fine mess04:17
dmcglone1speaking of movies, Jack Nicholson is the best in the biz :-)04:18
dmcglone1gonna smoke me one more and I'm out04:19
jgouldIntresting... The Software Center says I don't have LibreOffice installed, but I do...04:24
dmcglone1thats weird04:26
dmcglone1Well I'm out. bye everyone04:26
dmcglone1have a good one04:26
jgouldNgiht dmcglone104:26
Unit193jgould: Synaptic? or dpkg -l |grep libreoffice?04:27
jgouldIt was just hte launcher type thing that you can open and then open a new indiviual program...  Taht's all it was04:29
Cheri703kobo just released a new model of e-reader, and tomorrow is the barnes & noble announcement about the nook, hoping the new nook will be awesome and inexpensive04:59
jgouldCheri703: :D05:02
Cheri703just need to get UDS reimbursement and then I'll be all set to buy one05:03
Cheri703(no idea when that will show up)05:03
Cheri703:/05:03
jgouldYou get reimbursed for going to UDS?05:03
Cheri703you get meals reimbursed when they're not provided (dinners)05:04
jgouldah05:05
Cheri703I had some money left over from what was set aside for the trip, though I've spent some of that. With what's left, and what's getting reimbursed, I'm buying an e reader05:05
Cheri703hoping it comes soon...05:06
Cheri703forms are due by 6/15, so I'm not sure if turning it in early (sent mine last week) will get the reimbursement sooner, or if they'll process all of the payments after05:07
canthus13bah. fecking financial aid was denied because my wife defaulted... on 2 freaking dollars.05:10
Cheri703:( :(05:10
canthus13a freaking rounding error. :/05:11
jgouldThat sucks, canthus1305:16
jgouldcanthus13: do you shut down your system rather than suspend it?05:28
jgouldHeh,  I just remotly ejected a disc on the primary server and the dog's head snapped up and looked into the kitchen where the server sits...05:35
Unit193jgould: I don't think you will ever get that answer...05:48
jgouldMaybe not, Unit19305:48
jgouldHmm... I think my blood sugar is dropping...05:53
Cheri703heh, mine is too...just got a granola bar05:55
* jgould grabs a bowl of frosted flakes06:01
Unit193Cheri703: Working on your bio and/or wiki? (Got email about Derath missing his chance)06:03
Cheri703:/ yeah, I have to work on that06:03
Cheri703I am not so good at writing stuff about myself06:03
Unit193You saw mine... That's all I could com up with (NO idea what else to put)...06:04
Cheri703I need to finish a few projects first :) then I can put them up06:05
* jgould enjoys his frosted flakes06:12
Cheri703http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2011/05/24/the-most-awesome-mobile-food-truck-of-all-time-the-grillenium-falcon-pic/06:14
Cheri703is it weird to email the list at 2:30am? Oh well, already did :)07:30
jgouldHeh07:30
Unit193I'll read it (and half the rest on IRC)07:30
Cheri703?07:31
Cheri703(and half the rest on IRC)  ?07:31
Unit193Half the people on IRC are up late (Even if they don't speak)07:34
Cheri703ahh, o,k07:36
Cheri703*ok07:36
* Unit193 hasn't seen BiosElement....07:37
jgouldTaht's true Unit19307:49
jgouldwe are a group that is up late07:50
* Unit193 shouldn't be...07:50
jgouldNeither should I07:52
Unit193You seem to be up ALL night... I'm just up 'til about 407:54
Unit193I need to get Kubuntu back installed again...07:55
jgouldMy schedule has flipped from when I was working to my natrual sleep cycle07:57
jgouldI love being able to work on three diffrent machines without changing my work location08:11
* jgould is sleepy08:29
jgouldNight everyone08:33
Unit193Have a good rest08:33
jgouldbah... can't sleep09:11
Unit193Haha!09:13
jgould:P09:13
jgouldI tried.  Couldn't get comfortable or fall asleep09:14
Unit193My turn to try...09:15
Unit193Alright! See you later (today)!09:18
jgouldLater09:18
jgouldI hope you have better luck than I do09:19
Unit193I will on that part (I'm just about brain dead...)09:19
jgouldhmm intresting...  if I'm in the Mac OS, I don't have write premissions on my NFS exports11:27
Derath-SrvrDon't think I missed my chance, if someone really wanted me up there, I would have been nominated :)13:59
paultagDerath-Srvr: wrrrrong!14:09
paultagDerath-Srvr: No one has ever nominated anyone else in Ohio14:09
paultagit's a balsy move right now14:09
paultagif you wanted it, you should have gone for it14:09
* Derath-Srvr shrugs14:11
Derath-SrvrSorry, but that's how I feel about it...14:11
Derath-SrvrI wouldn't normally nominate myself for much of anything, but I'll accept or deny nominations based on whether I would want to do it in the first place...14:14
Derath-Srvrbut that's just me14:14
* jgould is not sure what thinks of KDE14:21
* Derath-Srvr likes KDE14:22
jgouldI installed it in a VM to play wiht14:22
Derath-Srvrit's my normal desktop... slightly modified, I changed the app launcher to the old style (win2k like, rather than the xp/vista look), a custom superkaramba, and a script that fetches an image for my wallpaper14:24
Derath-SrvrAnd added a couple widgets (folderview, quickfolder [I think that's what it's called], and the shutdown/lock buttons14:25
jgouldI can't get Kontact to pull my mail down from Gmail...14:27
Derath-SrvrDunno that one... I use t-bird14:28
Derath-Srvrand I think kmail is the kde mail client, kontact I think is just the address book14:29
thafreakSo I have this vps in chicago with unmetered 10mbit connection...14:33
thafreakgot me thinking...14:33
thafreakI could have it proxy everything to my house on a weird port...and no one would know14:34
thafreakSo I set up an experiment...14:34
thafreakI have php running in fast-cgi mode at my house...and I have the vps in chicago connected to it via stunnel, so it's ssl encrypted14:34
thafreakand the webserver on the vps can actually use the php process from my basement...14:35
thafreakdefinately worth the $2/month...14:35
paultagfast-cgi rules14:36
paultagthafreak: whoh, that's kinda a badass idea14:36
thafreakluckily, i get about 36ms ping between my house and the chicago vps...so it's actually somewhat responsive14:37
paultagthafreak: you could actually make that transparent if you replaced the php-cgi binary with php-cgi.real, and added the remote instance dealo in the php-cgi14:37
paultagthafreak: that's badass14:37
paultagI'd love to try that with CPU intensive scripts and a few local machines14:38
thafreakNow if this hosting company could just hire enough people to keep up with requests for new vps's...I'd be really happy14:38
paultagssh php@machine.domain.tld php-cgi14:38
paultagthafreak: :)14:38
thafreaknah, don't bother with ssh...14:38
thafreakuse stunnel14:39
paultagmm14:39
thafreakit can do certificate verification to only allow certain clients to connect14:39
_bbb_which company14:39
thafreakw2servers is the vps hosting provider14:39
thafreakI ordered one vps...played with it a bit, then ordered 2 more...the 2 more haven't been set up yet (almost a week and a half later)14:40
paultagdang14:40
thafreakyeah...and they have a policy...don't spam the ticket system...or they'll cancel your accounts14:41
thafreakotherwise I'd keep pinging them like what the hell...14:41
paultagthafreak: these dudes sound odd14:41
thafreakI hope they atleast adjust the renewal date to be 1 year from when they actually provision my instnaces, and not the 1 year from when I paid14:42
_bbb_no vps for you    come back two weeks14:42
paultagthafreak: for sure14:42
thafreakthey're charging $2-$3/month (if you pay 1 year at a time), and unmetered bandwidth...14:42
paultagthafreak: this sounds like a scam14:43
thafreakthey're getting tons of orders...mostly fraudaulent and malicious people14:43
paultagthafreak: that's too fucking good14:43
paultaghow much is in the vps cpu/ram side?14:43
thafreak512mb of ram14:43
thafreak1 cpu14:43
thafreak1.33ghz equivalent14:43
thafreakthey stopped taking paypal orders because aparently malicious users liked using paypal14:44
paultagwhat the shit14:44
paultagthat's pretty boss14:44
thafreakThink about it though...if you were a blackhat...14:44
thafreakI think most are only $6/month if you do month to month...14:45
thafreakset up a phony paypal, buy a server for amonth, launch attacks against AWS accounts...then take those over...14:45
thafreakit's gotta be tough to sort through who's legit and who's not...14:46
thafreakI mean take me for example...I have a business and a legitimate need...BUT, my website is a "coming soon" thing, and has been like that for years...14:46
thafreakI'd seem shady if you didn't know me14:47
jgouldI don't know you, therefore you don't exist.  :)14:48
thafreakbut honestly, I really have no need for a legitimate website right now...I don't want new customers yet14:48
paultagthafreak: you seem shady and I know you14:49
paultagthafreak: you should see how much bandwidth they actually let you suck up14:50
paultagthafreak: run a torrent client and seed all the Ubuntu ISOs14:50
Derath-Srvrhehe14:51
Cheri703Nook announcement event starts in 8 minutes! watching live blogging of it14:53
Cheri703SUPER excited :D14:53
Derath-SrvrOkay, can I get a brief of what's happening with that? I've heard that it's happening, but not what it is14:53
_bbb_slow new day? =P14:54
thafreakwait...what about nook?14:54
Cheri703this is the ONLY leak that I've seen (I've been checking) and it was last night: http://news.cnet.com/tipster-new-nook-is-the-simple-touch-reader/8301-17938_105-20065525-1.html?part=rss&tag=feed&subj=Crave&dlvrit=14090714:54
Cheri703so we'll see how accurate it is14:54
Cheri703I think it sounds great so far14:55
Cheri703(at least based on the leak14:55
Cheri703)14:55
Cheri703live blog: http://news.cnet.com/b-n-gets-set-to-launch-new-nook-live-blog/8301-17938_105-20065406-1.html14:55
thafreakso it's just an ereader?14:56
Cheri703yeah, update of the original nook14:56
Cheri703which is exactly what I want14:56
Cheri703I want e-ink, NOT lcd14:56
Cheri703"just an ereader" HA, nothing "JUST" about it! ;)14:57
thafreakwill it support google's book store though, or is it B&N only?14:57
thafreakWow, you're really excited Cheri703!14:57
Cheri703hehe14:58
Cheri703no idea on the book store14:58
Cheri703I am excited thafreak14:58
_bbb_e-ink should boost battery life no?14:58
Cheri703I have a lot of ebooks / pdfs that I want to read, but I can't read for more than 20 minutes on computer screen without major headaches14:58
Cheri703_bbb_: hopefully14:58
Cheri703it won't (according to the article) have the mini-lcd at the bottom, so hoping for better battery14:59
Cheri703the new kobo reader was announced yesterday too14:59
Cheri703I don't need a tablet (at least not at this point), my phone and netbook have me covered, so the nook color is NOWHERE on my list. I want something I can READ on, not play angry birds ;)15:00
thafreakhaha...I got a tablet for angry birds...15:01
thafreakand to check email from the couch...15:02
_bbb_which15:02
Cheri703my netbook does that for me thafreak :)15:02
thafreakbah, my netbook takes too long to start up15:03
* Cheri703 uses suspend15:03
thafreakbattery dies eventually...15:03
Cheri703plug is by the couch15:04
thafreaknot like the tablet...sucker will go for days15:04
thafreakwell, the funny thing is, my tablet has a bigger/better screen than my netbook :)15:04
jgouldI keep loosing system functions by using suspend15:04
thafreakplus it's more of a wife pleaser...I think she'd hate my netbook15:04
thafreakplus it's crunchbang with an encrypted disk...so it's not the fastest thing in the world15:05
Cheri703eh, some people love tablets15:05
Cheri703I don't think I'd really gain much functionality that I'm lacking15:05
Cheri703it's not a such big gap for me between phone and netbook uses that I need to purchase another device15:06
thafreakno, I'm not gaining functionality...it's more of a convience thing really...15:06
_bbb_which tablet15:06
thafreaki have the acer iconica15:06
jgouldDon't have to wait on the laptop to boot, and you can stil do most of what you do on the comptuer on it15:06
Cheri703well, thafreak, I mean "usefulness" as far as "situations that it would be significantly better/easier/whatever to NOT pull out the netbook or deal with itty bitty phone screen"15:07
thafreakyeah, I still check my email on my phone...but I'm considering dumping the android phone...depends on how much I can substitute a wifi only tablet for it15:09
thafreakI refuse to type emails on the phone though...that's just too painful15:09
Cheri703I know someone who uses the samsung galaxy tab as her phone completely, just uses speaker or a headset all the time15:09
thafreakI think my tablet doesn't have bluetooth though surprisingly...15:10
Cheri703she has a corded one too15:10
Cheri703the galaxy tab has a spot for a sim though too15:10
jgouldGreat if your on a GSM netowrk15:10
Cheri703yup15:10
thafreakI was thinking of getting a smaller tablet....i dunno...sometimes I think I have too much crap15:10
jgouldI know I have too much crap15:11
thafreakthis weekend, I was working on laptops for my in-laws company...15:11
thafreakthere were litterally 4 laptops on in my house at the same time...plus my pc in the library I think was also on15:11
thafreakand that was just on the main floor of the house...basement is a whole other mess...15:12
thafreakI did manage to virtualize on more machine lastnight and power off the old physicaly hardware...15:13
jgouldthat will help the power bill15:13
thafreakhaha...not sure much will help my power bill...unless I get the rest of the stuff shutdown...15:14
jgouldI just went to log into AT&T's website and typed my SSN rather than my phone number...15:14
thafreakI've got atleast 3 more machines to finish moving stuff off of...15:14
thafreakouch15:14
jgouldI fixed it before I submitted the form though...  Too much time on ODJFS's website (worthless POS that it is)15:15
Cheri703battery live up to TWO MONTHS!15:16
Cheri703*LIFE15:16
* jgould blinks15:16
jgouldAT&T wants more for a refurbished Atrix than they do for a new one... I think something is wrong ther15:17
thafreakatrix seems like a decent compromise....too bad it's at&t only15:17
thafreakcourse pretty soon if I don't leave tmobile, I'll be an at&t customer anyway15:18
Cheri703jgould: for the nook15:18
jgouldWe had some... Issues with Verizon....15:18
jgouldI know, Cheri703.  I was blinking at AT&T's website15:18
Cheri703ah, ok15:18
jgouldthafreak: that's if the FCC and FTC let the merger go though...15:19
jgouldAnyone have an HTC Aria?15:22
_bbb_vision..15:28
Derath-SrvrEvo here15:32
jgouldany one know if the aria is useable as a wifi hotspot?15:35
_bbb_like tethering? im sure15:37
_bbb_unless carrier forbids / not rooted15:37
_bbb_youd just need the right app then15:38
_bbb_or gingerbread15:38
_bbb_http://www.hoopples.com/15:39
_bbb_oops15:39
jgouldHeh15:45
jgouldIt shipped with 2.1, and was later upgraded to 2.2 (Yero or something like that...)15:45
jgouldI'll be back in a bit15:45
Cheri703_bbb_: lucky that was an innocuous link ;)15:45
* Cheri703 is SUPER EXCITED about this new nook15:45
_bbb_yeah15:55
_bbb_phew15:55
_bbb_heh15:55
_bbb_its taco tueday.. heading there tonight15:55
* jgould knows what phone he's going to get17:31
canthus13yay.17:32
* canthus13 is going to stick witht he same piece of crap phone he has until it dies.17:32
Cheri703canthus13: I'm going to be keeping mine for a while as well17:34
Cheri703though parents are going to buy me a new nook! WOO!17:34
paultagCheri703: woohoo!!17:35
paultagCheri703: What's the deal with the new Nooks?17:35
paultagCheri703: should I get one?17:35
Cheri703http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/24/barnes-and-noble-announces-new-nook/17:35
Cheri703it's e-ink17:35
* paultag hugs Cheri703 17:35
Cheri703but it's awesome17:35
Cheri703:)17:35
Cheri703I'm excited17:35
paultagwhoh whoh17:36
paultagCheri703: touch e-ink?17:36
paultagthe fuck!!17:36
Cheri703yep17:36
Cheri703it looks pretty sweet17:36
Cheri703it is 6.5x5x.47" !17:36
Cheri703teeeeeny17:36
paultagCheri703: I wonder how hard that will be to Jailbreak17:36
Cheri703yeah, I'm curious as well, it's running android 2.117:37
paultagCheri703: I want to put an app on it to digest content17:37
Cheri703what do you mean?17:37
paultagCheri703: video looks rad17:37
Cheri703yeah17:37
Cheri703definitely17:37
paultagCheri703: I want it to fetch new info from my server and show it to me17:37
Cheri703did you see the pic of the back of the nook?17:38
Cheri703ahh17:38
Cheri703it's all contoured and semi-grippy17:38
paultagI want to have it show all my VCS status stuff and all sorts of other things17:38
Cheri703which is awesome17:38
paultagCheri703: +117:38
Cheri703I can't wait for the 3rd party accessories to be available, I'm NOT paying a butt-ton of money for a case17:39
paultagCheri703: aye17:39
paultagwow refresh is much much better17:39
paultagthey totally cache that stuff17:40
paultagCheri703: I think i'll wait until I'm sure that I can hack it17:41
Cheri703understandable17:41
Cheri703I'm sure there will be reports out about it :)17:41
paultagCheri703: does that have the free 3G as well?17:41
Cheri703no 3g on these17:41
Cheri703BUT free wifi at at&t hotspots17:41
paultaghumm17:41
paultagthat's a bummer17:41
Cheri703eh, for me not so bad, I can tether with my phone :)17:42
paultagyeah, aye. My phone craps out on that, not to mention when I had my droid it would burn battery17:42
Cheri703mine does burn out quickly, BUT honestly, I shouldn't need wifi / internet that often17:43
Cheri703I'll load it up at home and go17:44
paultagaye17:44
paultagsee I want to carry it, mostly "off", and pull it out when I have a minute to check pending stuff17:44
paultagand I want it to auto-fetch, I hate waiting17:44
paultagCheri703: I wish nook would totally embrace the F/OSStards17:47
paultagCheri703: they could have such a huge community putting out some amazing stuff17:47
jgouldwhat do you have now, paultag17:47
Cheri703yeah, email them :)17:47
paultagjgould: iPad, it does about 40% of what I'd like a tablet to do17:47
paultagCheri703: I wish! :)17:47
paultagThey'd totally not listen17:47
Cheri703go for it! if enough people did, perhaps they'd consider it17:47
jgouldI meant phone wise17:47
paultagbut it does those 40% well17:48
Cheri703or even a more expensive rooted version or something17:48
paultagjgould: and old blackberry, I had an Android G1 before17:48
paultagCheri703: aye17:48
paultagjgould: I'm so old-school with phones17:48
jgouldI hate my blackBerry17:48
Cheri703paultag: I'm told that my UDS reimbursement should arrive 10 days after submitting it (so mid-late next week), and the nook hits stores on 6/10, so I'm going to call local B&N next wed/thurs, then go in and check it out hands-on17:59
Cheri703:)17:59
Cheri703iiiiinteresting: http://www.the-digital-reader.com/2011/05/24/the-new-nook-has-a-stylus/18:01
canthus13meh. Just give me a palm pre.. (pre+.. whatever. as long as it has WebOS. )18:03
Cheri703paultag: also these videos: http://blog.the-ebook-reader.com/2011/05/24/new-nook-revealed-the-simple-touch-reader-specs-and-videos/18:05
paultagCheri703: woot!!!18:15
paultagCheri703: thanks for that link, it looks pretty rad :)18:15
Cheri703yeah, I'm excited :)18:16
paultagCheri703: I wonder how hard it will be to jailbreak it18:16
Cheri703how hard was the nook color?18:17
paultagif it's fairly simple, I'm so buying one18:17
paultagCheri703: at first, not hard, just pop it open and reflash the internal SD card that you can remove18:17
paultagCheri703: eventually you could break it via software olny18:17
paultagonly, rather18:17
Cheri703hmm....k18:21
Cheri703iirc, android 2.1 wasn't terribly difficult to root, depending on device of course18:22
paultagCheri703: yar18:26
thafreakpaultag: where you going? You get a job offer somewhere, or just going home?19:01
* deejoe watches for paultag's answer19:04
Cheri703He graduated19:05
thafreakright, and I'm wondering why NEO isn't good enough for him now :)19:06
paultagOh sorry, I had a locked screen19:06
paultagthafreak: I love NEO so much, I wish I could stay, but I have no job, so I'm working for my dad until I find work19:06
thafreakit's cool....we understand19:07
thafreakwhat happened with google?19:07
paultagthafreak: made it 4 interviews :)19:07
* Derath-Srvr sighs19:07
paultagthafreak: just had interview 2 with Derpbook, and 1 with Amazon19:07
thafreakwow...did you get an in person?19:07
paultagthafreak: narp19:07
Derath-SrvrI never heard from them...19:07
paultagalso working on Boston College too19:07
thafreakwhat derpbook?19:07
deejoepaultag: have you gone east yet?19:07
paultagthafreak: facebook :)19:08
paultagdeejoe: on Thursday19:08
thafreakah19:08
deejoedrive, or fly?19:08
paultagdeejoe: fly19:08
deejoebah.19:08
deejoeoh well19:08
* deejoe was angling for a paultag tour19:08
paultagdeejoe: I'll make it a point to get out there in the next year or so, if I'm still out east19:08
paultagdeejoe: need to check out -us-ny for myself, pay the hackerspace a vidit19:09
paultagvisit19:09
deejoeyar19:09
paultagthafreak: I love NEO, I'm really sad to be leaving19:09
paultagbut I should hear back from BC and Facebook soon19:09
paultagAmazon's going to be a no-go19:09
Derath-SrvrCompany I work for has some opening, provided you don't mind working on Windows as well as Linux/AIX...19:10
paultagDerath-Srvr: thanks! I'll shoot you an email if BC/FB falls through, I'd hate to have you stick yourself out for me if I'm waiting on those two :)19:10
Derath-SrvrUnderstandable...19:10
paultagDerath-Srvr: it's kinda funny, for some reason, I did not apply to any of them, they all had my resume, which was boss19:11
Derath-SrvrBeen debating on advertising it in LoCo, since most of the work is in Win/IIS...19:11
Cheri703bc?19:11
paultagDerath-Srvr: go for it, I don't think anyone would complain :)19:11
paultagCheri703: Boston College19:11
Cheri703ah, read back19:11
Cheri703:)19:11
paultag:)19:11
Derath-SrvrWell, if anyone in the Columbus area, or willing to work in Cols needs a job...19:12
Derath-Srvrknow anyone that's good with Checkpoint?19:13
Derath-SrvrAnd other firewall configs?19:13
paultagI don't :(19:13
Derath-SrvrThat's for a different position...19:14
paultagI got all my friends on that Linux train early, so none of us know jack about Windows19:14
Derath-SrvrWe still have plenty of System Engineer positions (software install/config/troubleshoot)19:14
Cheri703I want a tech job but I'm not a programmer :/19:14
Cheri703and I don't want to move unless absolutely necessary19:14
Derath-Srvrlol Without moving, it's a long commute, but our VP, and one of the SysEngrs both commute from Ashland19:15
Cheri703heh, carpool!19:15
Derath-SrvrAnd I commute from Dayton to Cols19:15
Cheri703though I'd love a telecommuting job19:15
Derath-Srvrtelecommuting isn't used too much, unless necessary... at least for SysEngrs, Project Managers on the other hand are completely mobile, and travel a LOT19:18
Cheri703yeah19:20
Unit193That was one heck of a scrollback...19:24
thafreakCheri703: you ever set the time on a vcr?19:25
Cheri703yup...?19:25
thafreakthen you're a programmer :)19:25
Cheri703heh, I dabbled with python a bit, but I have little interest in programming overall19:26
Cheri703I just ask my brother to program stuff for me :)19:27
Cheri703though a friend of mine is going to send me an arduino, so that will be interesting19:27
Cheri703hoping I can do some stuff with that19:28
thafreakneat...whatever it takes to get you intereseted19:30
Unit193locobot_1 seems to be timing out like crazy...19:40
Cheri703heh, showed my mom the nook, she's curious about it20:24
Cheri703will let her play with it when she visits in july20:24
Cheri703wow what a website: http://pirateprinting.com/21:00
_bbb_shiver me timbers21:02
Unit193Dr Who already had that episode...21:03
Cheri703yeah....21:03
Unit193We are going to be short one paulta(g)21:04
Unit193Anyone want to test the OS bodhi_zazen made? I can give you the link or you can join #Zenix21:16
paultagUnit193: :)21:37
paultaggo Zenix :)21:37
Unit193paultag: I've been testing since early beta for him21:38
paultagUnit193: I had a hand in every version except this one21:38
paultagUnit193: how's ibuclaw these days?21:38
paultagah, I'll say hi21:39
Unit193paultag: I don't know him as well, but he's still there...21:39
paultagUnit193: oh shoot, bodhi does not like me right now21:39
Derath-SrvrDid he see how many times you've dropped the fbomb paultag?21:40
Unit193paultag: Really? I guess ibuclaw isn't on right now21:40
paultagDerath-Srvr: yes, actually. That's why21:40
paultagUnit193: No worries :)21:40
* Derath-Srvr falls from shock21:40
Derath-SrvrHonestly didn't expect that to be the reason lol21:41
paultagDerath-Srvr: lol it was :)21:41
paultagDerath-Srvr: he told me to stop using that language in here, so I started swearing in German21:42
Derath-SrvrLMAO21:42
paultag:P21:43
canthus13paultag: Eh? Yer leaving us?21:46
paultagcanthus13: yar :'(21:46
canthus13Bummer. :/21:46
paultagtotally21:46

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