[06:06] more mense [06:14] morning kbmonkey [06:15] hello superfly! [06:27] * nlsthzn waves [06:36] * kbmonkey waves goodbye [06:36] * kbmonkey waves goodbye [06:37] have a good day all =D [07:40] morning [07:41] * nlsthzn waves [07:42] yo [07:57] http://www.news24.com/SciTech/News/Germans-transfer-data-at-26Tbs-20110523 [08:02] http://mybroadband.co.za/news/broadband/20438-Fastest-broadband-networks-South-Africa.html [08:03] HAHAHA we win! [08:05] http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/336922-Fastest-Internet-networks-in-South-Africa?p=6177524&viewfull=1#post6177524 [08:06] LOL [08:07] :) [08:50] morning superfly and all ya others [08:51] Maaz, coffee on [08:51] * Maaz starts grinding coffee [08:55] Coffee's ready for Kilos! [08:55] hiya Kilos [08:55] Maaz, ty [08:55] Enjoy Kilos === wolf is now known as Guest59646 === Guest59646 is now known as Wolfeyes [11:55] Maaz: coffee on [11:55] * Maaz flips the salt-timer [11:59] Coffee's ready for Wolfeyes! [12:08] hi Wolfeyes [12:10] it be me superfly tried the sudo grub-update but still no maverick showing [12:10] but quassel looks much like xchat [12:11] now i gott go look the link nlsthzn send but need to do it via stick cause my modem in here [12:12] Wolfeyes: it was just a lot of info on grub 2... not a quick fix I fear... and welcome to the big K :) [12:12] * nlsthzn uninstalled quassel and installled Konversation :p [12:13] hehe. you just like playing nlsthzn [12:13] have you looked at xchat [12:14] Wolfeyes: type in "sudo os-prober" and tell me if it shows maverick [12:14] :p hey, I have the present install since yetserday... AFAIK xchat uses gtk so I don't want to use it on K... feels dirty (have to use firefox... :p) [12:15] nlsthzn: use Quassel for IRC [12:15] Konversation is solid for IRC [12:15] ah, ok [12:15] it is [12:16] :) [12:16] I used to use that before switching to Quassel [12:16] got some stuff to watch :p bbl [12:17] sudo: os-probe: command not found [12:17] ag, os-prober [12:17] use your tab-completion! [12:17] lol ok i try that [12:19] nope it only sees windows [12:21] typed it out. dunno what to tab complete on [12:21] it be me not the kid here [12:22] if you type in "os-pr" and press tab, it completes to "os-prober" [12:22] Wolfeyes: yep, I know [12:23] Wolfeyes: apparently some folks had success but running fsck on the other hard drive [12:23] only one 500g sata with sata adapter [12:25] i move modem back to my pc [12:27] i.e. if you installed Natty on /dev/sdc1 and you installed maverick on /dev/sdb1, then you run sudo fsck /dev/sdb1 [12:33] when i install kubuntu it gonna take a while to get used to it [12:33] quassel looks good [12:36] just dont understand how ians grub sees xp and natty but not maverick [12:36] i go look that link now [12:45] that kinda involved for me. [12:45] what will happen if i boot from maverick cd and run aptitude install grub2 [12:46] will that crash natty and still not see maverick [12:47] Kilos: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=10233804&postcount=8 [12:48] ty superfly i will go see [12:51] is there a way i can see what partition maverick is in because i must run [12:51] sudo fsck /dev/xxxx [13:12] Kilos: type in "mount" and you should see "/dev/xxxx on / type ext4" somewhere... that's your natty drive [13:13] k [13:16] nope. its on sda2 or sda 3 or sda4 i think but they dont show in mount [13:18] see a /dev/sda7 on /boot type ext4 [13:22] and /dev/sda5 on / type ext4 [13:33] Kilos: do you see a "type ntfs" ? [13:33] or a type "vfat" ? [13:36] nope i will try get it to a stick and paste it from here [13:39] i cant even make a file on desktop sorry. this might take a while [13:39] gnome way is right click create folder or file [13:40] lots to learn [13:40] Kilos: open your home directory [13:41] Kilos: I think there's a folder icon next to your menu icon? [13:50] eish now i even lost the bottom panel that kept hiding [13:50] maybe i wait till ian gets done with his kombi [13:50] sorry superfly [13:50] head exploding here [13:51] panel came back. yay [13:53] yay again found more desktops [13:53] yoohoo [13:53] cant find the stick yet [13:53] lol [14:27] Kilos: the stick? [14:28] um [14:28] er [14:28] mass storage device [14:28] flash disk [14:28] memory stick [14:28] oh right [14:28] daai ding man [14:28] lol [14:28] I thought you were talking about something on your desktop! [14:29] no. on ians i got the output of mount and wanted to paste it from here but cant find the stick to copy to [14:31] with gnome it shows on destop but i dont know where to look for it on kubuntu [14:34] yay i think i got it [14:37] this is kinda like learning to walk again [14:41] still doesnt open anywhere so i can copy the file to it then bring here to paste to bin [14:42] maybe better if i move modem back to there and paste it in my channel [14:43] that way i get some quassel practise too [14:43] see you all from there === wolf is now known as Guest88229 === Guest88229 is now known as wolfeyes [15:11] arvie! [15:12] lo kbmonkey [15:17] can anybody recommend a MP3 player that runs Linux? I need to decide on one :) [15:17] vlc plays everything [15:18] even .amr sound [15:18] I meant a portable MP# player soz :) [15:18] oh sorry [15:18] lol [15:18] like I used Rockbox on my old 4G iPod but I dont want an apple branded one this time [15:18] ive never even seen one [15:20] ah okay then thx! [15:21] must be someone else here that knows [15:22] SanDisk apparently works well [15:23] Having someone bring one in from ths US so just want to make sure.. err it works okay cos ye [15:23] Maaz: google linux mp3 player [15:23] wolfeyes: "Top 10 Linux MP3 Players » Lindesk" http://lindesk.com/2008/03/top-10-linux-mp3-players/ :: "Amarok | Rediscover music!" http://amarok.kde.org/ :: "Linux MP3 Player" http://www.linuxhotbox.com/mp3-player-linux.htm :: "mpg123, Fast MP3 Player for Linux and UNIX systems" http://www.mpg123.de/ :: "Using A Sandisk MP3 Player On A Linux Desktop | HowtoForge - Linux ..." http://www.howtoforge.com/sandisk_mp3_player_linux :: "How to Ch [15:24] wow there are more than 10 [15:30] oooh the sandisk fuze+ looks purrrty [15:30] Linux supported :) [15:42] the Sansa Fuze range is win [15:57] ^^ what he said [15:57] Im won [15:58] laters :) [16:03] hi ubuntu peeps [16:03] i need some help [16:03] I have ubuntu 11.04 running on my laptop [16:03] and I can no longer log in to any session [16:03] it just freezes up, showing a blank screen [16:05] you can see more details of my dilemma at: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1766405 [16:08] mus000: when you hit gdm, can you press ctrl+alt+f1 and get to a terminal? [16:09] superfly: yes [16:09] look to see if you have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf file [16:09] if you do, rename it and then restart [16:09] hmmm google says I won'y [16:09] brb [16:10] no xorg.conf [16:10] from http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1766122 : [16:10] "X11 now autoconifgures itself and the Xorg.conf file is no longer used" [16:20] mus000: yes, but X11 will still read from it if it exists [16:20] mus000: what was the last thing you did before this started happening... it sounds like a package conflict or configuration issue [16:21] superfly: I can't remember. I think I was just typing in office [16:22] did you update your system? [16:22] anything that required sudo access? [16:22] not immediately before, but in the few hours before [16:23] superfly: nope, I just copied files to and from a flash [16:24] when did you last switch your computer on? [16:24] superfly: around 2-ish to copy some files to a flash for annelet [16:24] worked fine then [16:24] you must have done something to cause this [16:24] things don't just happen on their own... can you recall anything? [16:25] literally *anything* [16:25] superfly: I installed some software earlier this week [16:26] superfly: it was wine. I re-installed wine [16:26] mus000: do you have a ".unity" directory in your home directory? [16:26] try renaming that [16:27] superfly: will do [16:27] back in 2mins [16:29] superfly: how do I rename in a terminal? [16:30] mv oldname newname [16:36] superfly: no .unity directory [16:37] * superfly doesn't know Ubuntu from a bar of soap [16:38] superfly is still the best i know [16:38] mus000: on the command line, type in "sudo adduser " [16:39] then "sudo passwd " [16:39] then see if you can log in as that new user [16:39] will do [16:39] brb [16:41] superfly: same problem [16:41] so it's a system issue [16:42] i think so [16:50] mus000: what graphics card do you have? [16:50] superfly: some on-board ati thing [16:50] but I'm using the generic driver [16:51] I dunno, you'll need a Gnome/Unity expert [16:52] superfly: probably [17:10] superfly, is the prob not because i made a boot sector in the seperate partition i made with natty [17:10] possibly [17:10] um but windows is still on the first one too [17:10] * Kilos scratches head [17:36] maybe i try lists and explain nicely what i have done. might be someone done the same thing [17:40] okay :) [17:48] i dont like bugging the fly all the time [17:48] he has already done lots for me [17:50] lets have a cuppa [17:51] Maaz, koffie asseblief [17:51] Eish Kilos Die engelse het tot ons boeretroos oorgeneem. Vra asseblief in engels. [17:51] Maaz, coffee on [17:51] * Maaz puts the kettle on [17:53] bwahahahaha! [17:53] Kilos: you are hilarious [17:54] why superfly [17:55] Maaz: koffie asseblief [17:55] Eish superfly Die engelse het tot ons boeretroos oorgeneem. Vra asseblief in engels. [17:55] ^^ [17:55] Well, facts are facts [17:55] Coffee's ready for Kilos! [17:56] Maaz, dankie man [17:56] Groot plesier my vriend [17:59] hallo oom Kilos [17:59] g'evening kbmonkey [17:59] naand nuvolari hoe gaan dit daar [18:00] lol @ Maaz! =D [18:00] hello nuvolari [18:15] gaan oraait dankie oom Kilos [19:31] lo kodez [19:31] you winning? [19:32] hi Kilos, how are you? i have not yet managed to install it but am expecting him to come back to me any time as he had promised yesterday [19:34] i am fine ty. you havent installed what? [19:35] oh your modem? [19:35] kilos,: do you know someone who is good in postgresql? [19:35] + php and javascript? [19:36] no i dont. sorry but someone here will know [19:36] if they can just getta break and/or stop lurking [19:36] hehe [19:37] last i remembered you were trying to get modem going [19:38] yes, i thought you were referring to installing the latest ubuntu and am still struggling with the modem. i have everything in place but am failing to understand why it's not working [19:40] hi kodez. I did some php but yonks ago, no postgresql tho [19:43] hi kbmonkey: i need a way to do a digital clock with the seconds changing like in a wrist watch [19:43] we have natty kubuntu installed and it saw a vodafone modem first time [19:44] maverick couldnt see the modem at all [19:45] personally I'd go for html5 canvas for drawing clocks. not all browsers have that tho [19:46] a clock would be client side, so javascript. [19:47] do you know how can i do it? [19:48] i'm more interested in the seconds part of the clock [20:01] kodez: I've seen examples on the net - do a bit of googling [20:02] thanks superfly, i had already managed to get a link from kbmonkey [20:04] there's plenty tuts, just work through a few, you'l get a good idea from those [21:14] i am trying to get a terminal hardware to use, can anyone help about where i can buy them? [21:15] night all. sleep warm [21:15] noght kilos [21:15] night kilos [21:19] don't know kodez. electronic hobby stores? [21:20] terminal hardware? [21:21] i want to use it for internet cafe, i am failing to get a shop that sells the hardware for terminal client [21:21] superfly: yes [21:21] a dumb terminal [21:22] yes [21:22] you *might* find something like that at a PC supplier (rectron, axiz, etc) [21:22] well thats just a thin client, a PC without a drive [21:23] ie boot off USB/CD/MMC and login to a server. your shell can emulate terminal modes if you want those [21:24] i don't know the nearest rectron or axis around pretoria but will try searching or contact them [21:25] kbmonkey, how will i connect 15 monitors, mouse and keyboards in the set up you proposed? [21:26] Would each client not connect to a controlling server via the network [21:27] instead of buying 15 boxes, i want to use terminals that will connect to a server(s) [21:27] i mean 15 pc boxes [21:27] a dumb terminal is usually a pc without any fixed disks, as it just runs a shell and you login to a server as if you were sitting at that server :) [21:29] kbmonkey: i agree, what i need is the small pc boxes that are custom built without hard drives that will connect to the server [21:30] just a screen and keyboard pretty much eh. [21:30] may not be feasible atm, but see this for interest: http://www.raspberrypi.org/ [21:31] it is pretty much a thin client [21:31] but not a commercial product you can buy just yet [21:32] sorry didnt mean to throw in a useless link :p [21:32] no problem [21:35] dell and hp have thin client ranges [21:35] but I cant seem to find if any local stores stock [21:36] they specialize in what you are asking :) [21:47] there are a number of shops that have thin clients... the checkers and pick n pay types - I wonder where they get them from [21:50] sure you can order a bunch of customized boxes from rectron, may need an account with them to do so tho [21:51] i will try to check their contact details tomorrow and will take it from there [21:51] well, to order anything from rectron you'd need an account [21:51] does anyone know of a software to monitor an internet cafe? [21:52] not off hand but sourceforge might be a good place to start [21:55] kodez: there was OutKafe a few years ago, but I don't think it was that great [21:56] there was something else I saw, but I can't remember the name... it was hosted on SF.net, so you'll probably find it [21:56] i failed to get outkafe [22:00] night all [22:01] night nlsthzn [22:02] night folks [22:03] night superfly === panfriedsidh is now known as panphried