| geoffrian | hello chaps | 00:14 |
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| Unit193 | I just wanted to pint this bug #784020 to https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-desktop/msg03803.html (If you read her comment, you will see what I'm talking about) | 02:38 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 784020 in Xubuntu Website "download page lies about disk size requirements" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/784020 | 02:38 |
| charlie-tca | It already installs in 3GB without modifying anything. | 02:40 |
| charlie-tca | I have to try for 2GB yet, but that won't fix the installer, will it? | 02:41 |
| charlie-tca | The bug is because the installer insists that the install won't work in anything less then 4.4gb, which is wrong for anything except Ubuntu | 02:42 |
| Unit193 | charlie-tca: jmarsden built the iso with that mod | 02:42 |
| Unit193 | (If you want to read the whole thread) | 02:43 |
| charlie-tca | I see that. But I used the natty final to install in less then 4gb | 02:43 |
| charlie-tca | I just ignored the warning that said I needed 4.4GB | 02:43 |
| charlie-tca | But I will investigate further with a 4gb drive. That will be a better test | 02:44 |
| Unit193 | https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-desktop/msg03786.html Says you can't ignore that... (I haven't tested that myself) | 02:45 |
| Unit193 | charlie-tca: I'm not trying to put more work on you, I'm just linking both issues | 02:46 |
| Unit193 | Not an easy way to do so anyway... | 02:48 |
| charlie-tca | I am happy to have the reference. We might need it yet | 02:52 |
| charlie-tca | Since I had a 40GB drive to work with, it might matter | 02:53 |
| charlie-tca | Both distros need to be able to use less than 4GB, so we will have to try and find a way. | 02:54 |
| pleia2 | Unit193: thanks for the update :) | 03:19 |
| pleia2 | charlie-tca: can you create a separate bug for this? (it's a bit off-topic for the xubuntu-website bug) | 03:19 |
| Unit193 | If I can help, I would like to (Not a programmer). I may give the ISO testing a shot... | 03:20 |
| pleia2 | I don't think it's something that can be fixed for natty, but hopefully it can be looked into for the next release | 03:21 |
| charlie-tca | pleia2: yup, can do | 03:21 |
| pleia2 | looks like Unit193 updated 18:38:06 < Unit193> I just wanted to pint this bug #784020 to https://lists.launchpad.net/lubuntu-desktop/msg03803.html (If you read her comment, you will see what I'm | 03:22 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 784020 in Xubuntu Website "download page lies about disk size requirements" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/784020 | 03:22 |
| pleia2 | oops | 03:22 |
| pleia2 | looks like looks like Unit193 updated #784020 for us with some details :) | 03:22 |
| charlie-tca | no problem. I can fix that too when I file the new bug | 03:23 |
| * charlie-tca can't really see good enough tonight, will fix it tomorrow though | 03:23 | |
| * Unit193 Wasn't sure if that would count as a bug update... | 03:24 | |
| pleia2 | no rush, thanks! | 03:24 |
| pleia2 | airplane wifi really is too slow for ssh, detatching | 03:24 |
| charlie-tca | Unit193: it is fine. I will transfer the information to the new bug | 03:24 |
| charlie-tca | heh | 03:24 |
| charlie-tca | Enjoy the flight | 03:24 |
| pleia2 | thanks :) | 03:24 |
| Unit193 | screen over country dial-up is a real killer... | 03:25 |
| charlie-tca | Unit193: don't let me forget the bug now | 03:43 |
| charlie-tca | Gotta go for tonight. | 03:43 |
| === Soup|away is now known as Soupermanito | ||
| Unit193 | Linked to the bug at the same time in #lubuntu-offtopic (Doubles as -devel) and It's been updated: Bug #784020 | 07:03 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 784020 in Xubuntu Website "ubiquity doubles stated filesystem size requirements" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/784020 | 07:03 |
| mr_pouit | micahg: no, you don't step on my toes, feel free to request syncs (probably all panel plugins can be synced) :) | 10:07 |
| mr_pouit | thanks | 10:07 |
| mr_pouit | micahg: also, if you find some ubuntu delta, maybe I forgot to include it in debian, so feel free to ping me about that as well. | 10:09 |
| charlie-tca | Good morning | 14:49 |
| drc | Morning...where's the coffee? | 14:56 |
| charlie-tca | I got mine | 14:56 |
| * charlie-tca puts a new pot of coffee on | 14:56 | |
| charlie-tca | Sorry, drained the pot | 14:56 |
| drc | That's all right...I'm really a tea drinker, but as long as it has caffine.... | 14:59 |
| charlie-tca | heh, no tea here | 14:59 |
| charlie-tca | but I got a cookie for you | 14:59 |
| * charlie-tca passes cookies around | 15:00 | |
| drc | Sorry, I had to change a config to accept cookies...ummmm | 15:06 |
| charlie-tca | Maybe Soupermanito wants one too | 15:06 |
| Soupermanito | XD | 15:08 |
| charlie-tca | We passed a plate of cookies around, help yourself. They go good with the morning coffee | 15:08 |
| Soupermanito | hey charlie-tca :D good morning, yesterday i had General Information Sources class XD | 15:08 |
| Soupermanito | so i had to go | 15:08 |
| charlie-tca | no problem | 15:08 |
| drc | Soupermanito: Which University? | 15:09 |
| charlie-tca | I don't know if we can hold a meeting more than once a month on tuesday, maybe we can do it on Friday, though. | 15:09 |
| Soupermanito | University of Buenos Aires, Argentina | 15:09 |
| charlie-tca | minutes are out, by the way | 15:09 |
| Soupermanito | will check | 15:09 |
| Soupermanito | question, if i test a milestone, will you want a x86 or an x86_64 to be tested? | 15:10 |
| drc | So that means that Soupermanito is officially on the hook for testing? | 15:10 |
| Soupermanito | :) i will try to do it yes, i hope my internets are whit me in this | 15:10 |
| * drc notes that he waited until *after* the meeting to volunteer. | 15:10 | |
| * Soupermanito notes that he actually asked during the meet. | 15:11 | |
| drc | charlie-tca: on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Testing/Testers it asks you to add your info, but I have no idea how to add it, can't find the <add> button:) | 15:13 |
| charlie-tca | yup | 15:13 |
| charlie-tca | Soupermanito: whichever one you are able to test. Not everyone can test both arches | 15:13 |
| charlie-tca | It is an edit of the wiki. Email it to me and I will add it. charlie AT ubuntu DOT com | 15:14 |
| Soupermanito | another thing i was thinking while walking yesterday is that when i installed 11.04 the other day and played an mp3, parole said me "no codecs" or something like that, and i was hoping it to be like the old releases that would instantly send me to download the proper codecs, but nothing hapened, i had to download them manually, which is rather obnoxious, even more if you are new to *buntu | 15:14 |
| charlie-tca | I did not anything except VLC would automatically download the codecs | 15:15 |
| charlie-tca | Soupermanito: my internet is a bit slow. It takes me about 6 hours to zsync the images now | 15:18 |
| charlie-tca | and the dvd's I sync take between 4 and 6 hours additional | 15:18 |
| Soupermanito | well my internets are also slow, it takes me about 2 hours to download 700mb, if lucky | 15:18 |
| * charlie-tca tests Ubuntu alternate and desktop, Xubuntu alternate and desktop, ubuntustudio alternate dvd's, kubuntu desktop and alternate - both 32bit and 64bit | 15:19 | |
| charlie-tca | Download the images over the weekend before release. Even if they are natty, they can be zsynced quickly | 15:20 |
| charlie-tca | !zsync | 15:20 |
| Soupermanito | that did nothing | 15:20 |
| Soupermanito | XD | 15:20 |
| charlie-tca | !info zsync | 15:20 |
| ubottu | zsync (source: zsync): client-side implementation of the rsync algorithm. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.1-3ubuntu1 (natty), package size 98 kB, installed size 244 kB | 15:20 |
| charlie-tca | That is a bit faster than rsync now | 15:21 |
| Soupermanito | ok installing | 15:21 |
| charlie-tca | This explains zsync - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ZsyncCdImage | 15:22 |
| Soupermanito | :D hey charlie-tca you are the xubuntu project leader? :D xubuntu is awesome | 15:23 |
| charlie-tca | yes, I am | 15:24 |
| drc | charlie-tca: Approximately how long does the short&long testing take (just for scheduling, mind you)? | 15:25 |
| drc | charlie-tca: email is sent | 15:25 |
| charlie-tca | short is about 10 minutes, long can be anywhere between 10 minutes and 1 hour, depending on how many applications you run | 15:26 |
| charlie-tca | I normally test one application each time I run the live desktop and one each install I do | 15:26 |
| charlie-tca | That way, I spend just a few minutes to test them, since the install will take up to an hour to complete | 15:27 |
| charlie-tca | If I seem short of time, I will run through a menu at a time, so one install will include all the applications in Accessories | 15:28 |
| Soupermanito | charlie-tca, i have an old ide 4.3GB drive, will you like me to use it for testing? I ask because i saw you talking about limit sized during installs | 15:28 |
| charlie-tca | We are only testing the default installation stuff, so it isn't too bad | 15:28 |
| charlie-tca | It is not necessary. We try to test something like that for the final images only | 15:29 |
| drc | OK, what I think I'll do, if it acceptable, is test/install one (live/alternate, 32/64) each day, that way I'll more than cover the spectrum each week? | 15:29 |
| charlie-tca | Things change too much until then | 15:29 |
| charlie-tca | That would be great, drc | 15:29 |
| charlie-tca | And keep in mind, part of testing is actually reporting bugs. | 15:29 |
| charlie-tca | I wait 24 hours to report them, normally. Many of the installer bugs get fixed within that time, so it save some work. | 15:30 |
| charlie-tca | We will also many days that the images are oversize and don't fit on a cd. That is expected too. | 15:31 |
| drc | The site says to report daily testing to the mail list...is there a template for reporting? | 15:32 |
| charlie-tca | no, it needs updating. Mainly, we would like you to tell us here if anything fails | 15:39 |
| drc | OK, that's easy | 15:40 |
| charlie-tca | Also, persistent fails, like more than a couple of days, we will track carefully | 15:40 |
| charlie-tca | Just slap me with a wet trout if I don't respond to you | 15:41 |
| * davmor2 readies frozen trout by splashing it with water | 15:42 | |
| Soupermanito | booo xchat doenst have a /slap command | 15:42 |
| * charlie-tca wasn't thinking of a frozen trout, fresh would be much better | 15:42 | |
| charlie-tca | frozen is like a hammer! | 15:43 |
| micahg | mr_pouit: thanks, I'll try to do a round of syncs tonight | 15:48 |
| drc | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9SSOWORzw4 | 15:48 |
| charlie-tca | micahg: thanks for helping out! It's good to see someone else helping mr_pouit. | 15:49 |
| micahg | charlie-tca: happy to do it, maybe it'll fix some of my issues with xubuntu on oneiric as well | 15:49 |
| davmor2 | charlie-tca: You're just no fun anymore :D | 15:50 |
| charlie-tca | You get hit with a frozen trout, you won't be much fun either ;-) | 15:50 |
| drc | davmor2: you know how it is when someone gets promoted to management :) | 15:50 |
| charlie-tca | lol | 15:50 |
| davmor2 | charlie-tca: haha | 15:51 |
| davmor2 | drc: so true | 15:51 |
| * charlie-tca thinks the block of ice might have something to do with it :-) | 15:53 | |
| davmor2 | charlie-tca: I can bake it solid if it's only the cold that puts you off ;) | 15:54 |
| charlie-tca | hehe | 15:54 |
| charlie-tca | I guess I would prefer the cold | 15:55 |
| Soupermanito | you can install *buntu to playstation 3 :O | 15:59 |
| drc | Using zsync, will there be a problem if one is zsync'ing (is that a even a verb?) an iso every 4 days instead of daily? | 16:42 |
| charlie-tca | no, it just will take a lot longer | 16:42 |
| charlie-tca | since the image can be changed completely within 4 days, it might be faster to download a new image | 16:43 |
| Soupermanito | so adding a cron activity to run zsync is recomended? | 16:45 |
| charlie-tca | I don't use cron for it | 16:58 |
| micahg | ugh, xubuntu on oneiric pulls in unity now due to the gnome-session dep | 17:51 |
| * drc get out the garlic, holy water and stakes | 17:54 | |
| ochosi | lol | 17:54 |
| charlie-tca | yup | 17:54 |
| charlie-tca | takes a while to get that straightened out | 17:54 |
| charlie-tca | why do we have a gnome-session dependency? | 17:56 |
| micahg | oh, haha, I don't think it's from xubuntu | 17:57 |
| charlie-tca | That's why I am waiting to upgrade | 17:58 |
| micahg | oh, yeah, I think there's a dependency chain, but it's long | 17:59 |
| charlie-tca | probably something to sort out around alpha2 if it is still there | 18:09 |
| drc | OK...off to re-partition this machine for a testing partition. Haven't tried dual booting in years and years and years...and then it was not a pleasant task. Back in a while, if it's successful, later if not. | 18:20 |
| charlie-tca | just let it install grub to the sda, if you don't have windows. I don't really know if you do have windows | 18:27 |
| charlie-tca | oops | 18:29 |
| * charlie-tca too late again | 18:30 | |
| Unit193 | charlie-tca: There has been major changes to the bug report... | 19:26 |
| pleia2 | yeah :( since we didn't create a new one it's now marked as invalid for the website | 19:26 |
| pleia2 | actually, just for ubiquity | 19:27 |
| charlie-tca | It is okay to have both packages in the same report, as long we do add both | 19:27 |
| charlie-tca | yes, it is invalid for upstream ubiquity | 19:27 |
| pleia2 | it really should be made into a new bug if we want to file it though, the original bug is *just* a documentation one for the iste | 19:27 |
| pleia2 | site | 19:27 |
| charlie-tca | valid for website and ubuntu ubiquity | 19:28 |
| pleia2 | is the website still wrong? | 19:28 |
| pleia2 | I think it's correct for natty | 19:28 |
| charlie-tca | It is correct for the wording on the cd | 19:28 |
| pleia2 | we should probably drop the website from the bug then | 19:28 |
| pleia2 | this is very confusing :) | 19:29 |
| charlie-tca | We can just sign the website task off as fix-released | 19:29 |
| pleia2 | ok | 19:29 |
| pleia2 | there :) | 19:30 |
| charlie-tca | Thanks | 19:30 |
| Unit193 | jmarsden kinda took that over... | 19:30 |
| charlie-tca | yes he did | 19:31 |
| Soupermanito | http://imagebin.org/154869 | 19:46 |
| Soupermanito | oh wait not here | 19:46 |
| === Soupermanito is now known as Soup|away | ||
| === Soup|away is now known as Soupermanito | ||
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