[00:00] I love this fricken laptop [00:00] it can gimp without crapping itself. go intel atom. [00:01] I want to get an amd fusion netbook [00:02] are they out now? [00:02] I read the new chromebooks coming out ina month will have dual core atoms. I'm tempted, but I'm not sure a final-product "Cr-48" will warrant the 350 dollar drop for a dual core atom [00:03] cp: cannot stat `/Music/': No such file or directory [00:03] what does this mean [00:04] usually means you missed something in the directory, because /Music isn't found [00:04] should it be /home/Music? [00:04] it's there when i do ls [00:04] and then this [00:05] you trying to copy the whole directory? [00:05] it needs cp -r /Music/ to copy everything in it [00:06] oh [00:06] lol [00:06] durr [00:06] thanks [00:07] no problem [00:07] I usually forget the -r, and fight with it for a while trying all kinds of things before I remember [00:07] yeah [00:07] i was like "wtf now it's saying it doesnt exist" [00:08] "IT'S THERE IN THE DIRECTORY" [00:08] then it's like "omitting" [01:12] Hey on a fresh install of 11.4 with some updates and a few programs, if I open thunar and click my home directory it gives me an error: "Failed to open directory: "user"; Error stating file '/home/user/.gvfs': Transport endpoint is not connected" [01:12] In bash I can list the contents of my home directory, but get the same error if I try to cd or ls ~/.gvfs [01:12] Any ideas? [01:22] any one there? [02:59] Changing my cursor theme in main menu > settings manager > mouse leads to some strange effects. For example, the new cursor only takes effect in firefox and goes back to the default theme if I hover over a panel or the desktop. anyone know what could cause thsi? [03:18] xrdodrx, maybe it's not a omplete theme [03:22] xrdodrx: it is caused by a problem in xfce desktop, IIRC [03:22] They are aware of it. [04:13] thoughts @ theme? Do elementary icons work on a darker theme? [04:13] http://img64.imageshack.us/i/screenshotyki.png/ [04:13] anybody know how i would go about setting up a "reverse remote connection" with a windows user? it's easy to do w/ Linux. [04:19] bin_bash, hello, man, that's the pic of what's happening after dropping out of session and hot laptop after a few hours of normal work. http://en.zimagez.com/zimage/imag001436.php - what i promised yesterday [04:20] yeah [04:20] what? [04:20] sorry for quality. [04:20] oh [04:21] what that things does mean? [04:22] that looks like a kernel panic to me [04:22] what can i do to make it not happen again? mb install new kernel? [04:23] latest vanilla [04:23] tbh i don [04:23] don't know wnough [04:23] which kernel are you running [04:23] default after installation - 2.6.38-8 [04:24] hmmm yeah unfortunately I can't help you [04:24] i'm sorry :( [04:24] it's ok :-) [04:25] i'll test new kernel. === Soup|away is now known as Soupermanito [05:22] ok, totem has awful subtitle support [05:52] lol === zzajac is now known as madzak [12:14] o/ [13:52] Hi all [13:52] I can't use xubuntu 11.04 because of a refresh rate problem [13:53] Scrolling on firefox is really jerky [13:53] Does anyone know if this is a video driver issue? [15:00] Hi! I just tried out ubuntu 11.04 live-cd and really liked the panel applet which presents the application-menu and the window-titlebar in one thing. Is this available at xubuntu for the xfce-panel, too? [15:01] Murray_B: sure [15:01] Murray_B: got a screenshot? [15:01] no [15:01] that is part of unity and ayatana's work [15:02] charlie-tca: dude, i have it right now [15:02] It still is not part of Xubuntu [15:02] you can put it together from 2-3 parta [15:02] charlie-tca: it's *availiable* though, which is what Murray_B was asking for [15:02] Cube``: Of this panel in xfce? No. [15:02] Xfce does not include it. If you add it and have problems, you are on your own [15:03] charlie-tca: :-( Okay, thank you. I think, I'll live with plain xfce. But that one looks really interesting. [15:04] That's why you have choices. Ubuntu is definitely a different choice at this point [15:04] Cube``: Hm, which parts would I need for it? [15:04] I know some are also running unity in xfce, that doesn't make it work right either. [15:04] charlie-tca: ok, let's make sure we're talking about the same thing. is he talking about gnome-shell? [15:04] no, gnome-shell is not on the live cd [15:04] He is talking the menu in the panel [15:05] Ubuntu moved the menu from the windows to the panel, and you only get a menu for the active window [15:07] Separation of Ubuntu and Xubuntu widened in 11.04. It will grow bigger in Oneiric due to gtk3 and gnome3 [15:47] Hello, I have a problem getting the electricsheep screensaver to work in xubuntu natty 64. It doesn't show up in the list of screensavers, but works if I type electricsheep in the terminal. Is there anyone here who could help me out? [15:52] Since it is an addon, you could create a menu entry for it by adding it to ~/.local/share/applications [15:52] I don't think it can be added to xscreensaver itself, though [15:53] Hmmm, could I use gnome-screensaver instead of xscreensaver in xfde then? [15:54] yes, you can [15:54] Ok, I'll give that a try. sudo apt-get install gnome-screensaver and sudo apt-get remove xscreensaver? [15:55] What's up with XFCE not auto mounting my drive? If I reboot, it auto mounts. But I rebooted 4 minutes ago and the 2nd time I plug in my external Nautilus wont auto mount it. [15:55] Sorry, still a bit of a n00b [15:55] sancho: yes [15:55] thanx guys [15:55] Under thunar it says "daemon is inhibited" [15:55] nautilus is not part of xfce [15:56] I am not sure why it would not automount more than once, unless it forgets to unmount it [15:56] perhaps there is a ghost left in /dev [16:00] thunar and nautilus do it [16:00] but I found this - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1604563 [16:00] roasted: try unmounting it using eject mountpoint [16:00] I have ubuntu w/ xfce installed, not "xubuntu" [16:00] I cannot unmount if it doesn't mount ;) [16:00] but it seems to work now after the killall command in that thread [16:00] you plug it the first time after a boot and it doesn't mount? [16:01] after a boot, yes [16:01] 2nd time after a boot, no [16:01] some users were saying udisks may need reinstalled [16:01] I didnt do that yet, I just did the killall udisks and it works now. I'll keep an eye on it and see what happens and reinstall udisks if need be. [16:10] where is the trash:/// folder located? [16:11] ~/.local/Share [16:11] oh :) thanks [16:13] :D im doing xubuntu help on #ubuntu-es [16:17] Soupermanito: Then it would be ~/local/basura ;) [16:18] XD [16:18] no, its Trash [16:19] or in any case it would be "papelera" [16:21] True, but in my defense, it's been more than 20 years since I've used any spanish [16:21] I did well to remember "basura" [16:21] :D yes you did! [16:21] :) [16:23] Which brings up a point, when one localizes xubuntu (or any distro), are things like "trash" localized, or just the menus? [16:25] An/or: are the menu(s) localized and the file(s)/folders themselves English? [16:28] I don't know if the folders are localized [16:28] I think they retain the english names, but am not sure [16:28] O_o [16:29] i dont understand [16:29] i use spañish localization [16:29] The menus should all be in the language chosen, so spanish would mean all menus in Spanish [16:29] I have >lugares >papelera >escritorio [16:29] Soupermanito: are your folders in English or Spanish? [16:29] Spanish, then [16:30] also folders are [16:30] >Música >Imágenes >Vídeos [16:30] thats how it comes [16:30] drc: translations should then be complete, menus, help, folders, everything [16:30] :) it is [16:31] i usually end the localization for non standard programs [16:31] also libreoffice has an awful language support, which is sad [16:31] Yes, language translations for that are behind [16:32] So I just installed xubuntu luicid on my netbook. I can forward X11 from our jump box, but nothing further in... I am able to do this further in forwarding on an iPad? Something is more picky on xubuntu. Can anyone helpo me figure this out? [16:33] I've looked ast ssh_config aned sshd_config, but so far, no luck. [16:33] X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication. [16:33] xterm Xt error: Can't open display: localhost:12.0 [16:34] The .Xauthority file looks fine... [16:34] sorry, i have no idea about what you are talking about [16:35] Sounds like vnc, but I don't know enough to help with it [16:35] Hmmm. [16:35] Maybe an X11 room. [16:35] charlie-tca, help does NOT come on spañish [16:35] It is supposed to. That would mean we did not get it translated for the final release [16:36] im using 10.04 [16:36] XD [16:36] That explains it. We did not even get the documentation for it done until last cycle [16:36] :) oh [16:37] i have all running so smoothly here i dont even want to move on [16:37] No need to then. [16:38] :D thats why i wanted to try on vboxes so i would not mess whit grub :) but will also use another drive i have around that i dont use [16:38] I do use VirtualBox to test. I also have a couple of spare machines here. [16:39] :D [16:39] i only have a pII whit 128mb ram spare machine XD [17:14] what does xubuntu uses when prnt-scrn is pressed, and how can i change it? [17:15] Settings -> Keyboard -> shortcuts [17:15] :) great, will try to change it to scrot [17:20] :( still no luck [17:20] pressing prnt-screen while a menu is expanded results in nothing [17:22] i can't help people to do stuff if i can't show them where the options are located [17:22] Soupermanito: Use Screenshot (in Accessories), set the delay to what you want and then open the menus? [17:23] i can do that whit scrot [17:23] um [17:24] but thats really silly [17:24] OK, then use scrot, I was assuming that scrot didn't work either. [17:24] if i bind scrot to prnt-scrn and press it while a menu is expanded it doesnt work either [17:26] Soupermanito: Looks like open the menus overides most things (ALT-F2 doesn't work either) [17:28] It may be "silly" but it looks like it works as *designed* :) [17:29] or is at least consistent. [17:31] whats the name of the libre office pkg [17:31] libreoffice [17:31] y [17:31] ty [17:31] You are welcome [17:34] drc, yes, i saw that, i couldnt alt-f4 either [18:42] Hellooo! xD [18:42] hi people, my friend lamusj installed xubuntu 11.04 a few days ago, and today he nothed that empathy-logger is consumming a hella lot of his ram [18:42] :D [18:43] so he wanted to know why and how to fix ti [18:43] so, is there a reason i can't get three montors to work with nvidia and Xinerama? [18:43] Use pidgin instead of empathy [18:43] the same xorg works fine with rhel [18:43] !xinerama [18:43] xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead [18:43] aberhow, nvidia has its own multimonitor support, i've heard is pretty good [18:44] Did you create the xorg.conf in /etc/X11 ? [18:44] yes, i used the nvidia-settings tool to create the xorg.conf in /etc/X11 [18:44] empathy-logger I used 89% of the cpu :/ [18:45] Is the xorg exactly the same as the one from rhel? [18:45] where is the bugtracker, i'm pretty sure i'm doing it right and this is a bug [18:45] no, not EXACTLY the same, but pretty close [18:45] Then it can't work exactly the same [18:45] that xorg.conf was also generated with the nvidia-settings tool [18:45] sure it can [18:45] okay, you win [18:46] same driver same hardware [18:46] different settings [18:48] ok, where's that bugtracker [18:48] aberhow: open a terminal, file a bug using ubuntu-bug xorg [18:48] include the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file [18:49] Lamusj: is it possible to turn the logger itself off? [18:51] yes, with top in the terminal could! [18:52] Does that help? [18:53] I don't use empathy, but perhaps there is a way to start it without the logger. You could check empathy --help in a terminal for options [18:54] If there is, just copy the /usr/share/applications/empathy file to ~/.local/share/applications and modify the exec= to start empathy without logger [18:56] charlie-tca, ok! [18:59] XD he has a hard time reading english so im translating him on a private channel [18:59] Thanks. That is a really good thing to do [18:59] :) [19:00] The ~/.local/share/applications files overrides the /usr/share/applications so you don't get two menu entries [19:00] I didn't knew that [19:00] That's why I said just copy the file [19:01] :D [19:08] charlie-tca, thanks for the help! xD [19:08] Lamusj: you are welcome [19:08] I'll be in this channel more often xD charlie-tca [19:10] !grub2 [19:10] GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10) [19:11] That does help whether or not windows got involved [19:17] does this means I need to be in some group or it means I need to umount the device? http://bit.ly/lJ87op Disk inside DVD-Rom is not empty by the way [19:18] jozefk, you using brasero? [19:18] no, it just means close the window and right click the disk to click unmount [19:19] xfburn is that [19:19] If you don't have the disc icon, open a terminal and type eject [19:19] oh [19:19] brasero is smart enough to handle that [19:19] but I have xfburn right now [19:19] i don't know i had that exact problem whit brasero the other day [19:20] Ok, that was *relatively* painless...adding "GRUB_SAVEDEFAULT=TRUE" to /etc/default/grub and running "update-grub" afterwards will set my last grub menu selection as the default on the next boot? [19:20] I have never seen it with xfburn [19:20] eject will really eject the Rom. it will not umount only [19:20] really? [19:20] eject should unmount before ejecting [19:20] did you ever try eject? [19:20] before? [19:20] yes, which is why I said try it [19:20] how do you stop him? [19:21] stop the eject? [19:21] stop to open the DVD rom [19:21] O_o [19:21] you mean it is spinning? [19:21] eject is probably the very first terminal order i have ever used [19:21] I open task manager and tell it to kill cdrom [19:22] well, every time before if I type eject in terminal the CD/DVD in Rom goes out of it. door is opening and I have to remove it [19:22] no question asked :) [19:22] That is what I expect to happen [19:23] then how can I burn on it? [19:23] if I put it back what's the difference? [19:23] or how can I blank it [19:23] It said try again. If it is a blank, close the drive and it should be good, unless you got a bad disc, which happens sometimes [19:24] Is that a cd-r or cd-rw ? [19:24] first. I guess xfburn is not smart enough to blank it automatically [19:24] DVD-RW [19:24] and it's not blank right now [19:24] as I mentioned already [19:24] most burn applications will not blank automatically [19:24] brasero and k3b will do it :) [19:24] it will ask you and do it [19:25] but if it recognize it as a -rw, it should blank it [19:25] it should? that's good. just to umount it first :) [19:25] Maybe xfburn is not that advanced yet. It is pretty new [19:26] right click in Thunar is giving only one option: Eject Volume [19:26] no Umount [19:27] The message was "Please unmount the disc" . it is not umounting because it is not mounting the disc. [19:27] that's it. I typed Eject and door opened and I close it again :) [19:28] and same message from xfburn [19:28] shall I umount it with sudo umount /dev/sr0? [19:29] you can try to [19:29] It is possible that xfburn just won't work for the dvd-rw, and you will need to use brasero or k3b [19:30] ok that worked. sudo umount /dev/sr0 [19:30] xfburn is not complaining anymore. at list not yet :)) [19:30] least* [19:32] I didn't blank the disk first. just did burn image. xfburn didn't asked me anything at all :))) it just blank it and start burning lol which is cool but I expected to ask me like k3b do and brasero as well [19:33] xfburn probably thinks you were smart enough to know the disc you put in needed to be reformated [19:33] so it's smart enough to blank it but not smart enough to umount it [19:33] yes [19:34] thats linux fou you [19:34] well I am :)) I check first what is on the disk. then decided to overwrite [19:34] already finish [19:34] :) [19:35] it seems it's fine. ok not a big deal to umount it manually with sudo [19:36] :P you could create a launcher whit that option XD [19:36] Glad you got it to work :-) [19:36] gksu umount -f /dev/sr0 [19:37] launcher? come on :)) [19:38] terminal is always open [19:38] what image/photo manager you are using? [19:40] I don't use any, myself [19:40] irfanview trough wine [19:41] lol [19:41] forget about wine. I don't use it and don't want to use it [19:41] gpicview is pretty good [19:41] shotwell, f-spot also [19:42] and there was one more, can't remember the name [19:42] the default I see, is Risretto or something like that. [19:49] ristretto is really, really, not for me [19:49] i mean, its the dafault viewer and it can't even change the desktop walpaper? come one [19:51] um, viewer, right, not modifier application, right? [19:52] ristretto can change the wallpaper [19:52] it does one thing, and it does it quite well, view [19:52] Even better was feh, if I recall correctly [19:53] It could display png thumbnails on the desktop [19:53] charlie-tca, my favorite is gwenview. but it's KDE. I didn't use it long time. actually I use it for couple of days these days, coz I used KDE for a while. [19:54] gwenview can't ever roll around directory [19:54] when you're at the and, you're at the end [19:54] feh displays images, and uses very few resources to do it [19:54] but there are many other managers. good ones. in linux. like digikam for example. also KDE :) even those I mentioned already are fine. anyway ristretto works fine with Right click > open with Gimp :)) [19:55] i like ristretto [19:55] I would like it better if I could remember it [19:56] save a copy of the image is also fine feature [19:59] when i tried lubuntu it came whit gpicview, which is pretty good to do simple transformation tasks [19:59] like rotate or change format [19:59] I have never tried that feh. will see on google [20:00] ristretto can also rotate [20:00] no crop no anything else it seems [20:04] it can save as png. didn't try tif or something. jpg works of course [20:08] hi. where xfce-4.8 is keeping cache of background images (wallpapers)? [20:09] this is my xubuntu :) http://bit.ly/mlI9Yo click on image to zoom it a little bit [20:13] tomekh, ~/.thumbnails [20:13] That's a temporary holding area for thumbnails. Looking for the location [20:15] ~/.cache/wallpaper [20:15] Good afternoon, does any one know how to create a black png file for use with the ffmpeg codec? [20:17] black png file? gimp would be the first thing I would try :) [20:18] Thank you!:) [20:22] Please may I ask how I can turn two png files, one black and one white in to a strobing ffmpeg video file? [20:23] i thin you can use gimp for that [20:23] ask goodle [20:24] google^ [20:24] see in ffmpeg channel if exist [20:24] if ffmpeg can do it [20:24] if not then yes gimp what else [20:25] Thank you for your help:) [20:26] BigBigAl1979, did you try kdenlive? [20:27] not yet, thank you for your suggestion:) [20:27] I guess you have xfce but kdenline is really great app [20:27] it's of course kde :)) [20:28] Hi, I'm new in the chat and my english is not soo good. [20:29] I have a problem with xubuntu 11 [20:30] inspiron1525: Ask your question, all on one line if possible. If anyone knows the answer, they will try to help you. [20:31] The audio is not work any more but I don't now why === Soupermanito is now known as Soup|away [20:31] I'm Italian [20:34] It just died? [20:34] or it quit working when you upgraded, or it quit when you installed Xubuntu 11.04? [20:35] Yes, to day I have listing the music but now no work [20:35] Anybody good with audio issues? Sound quit while listening to music... [20:37] and watch movies the movies play but no audio [20:38] The best I can do is tell you to install pavucontrol [20:38] and make sure nothing is muted [20:40] thats what i had to do [20:41] No, there is on every things [20:41] I try to install pavucontrol [20:42] inspiron1525, try to run alsa force-unload & alsa force-reload [20:47] Yes, work again - Thank you! [20:48] I uninstalled pulseaudio lol [20:48] no problem inspiron1525 :) glad it worked [20:50] thank you and Good night to all [20:50] :) bonna notte :D === Soup|away is now known as Soupermanito [21:12] Well, that was a bit more painful...gpartd resized partitions correctly, Kubuntu installed to the correct partition correctly, grub2 found the correct booting data and worked correctly...but I could not for the life of me get grub2 to default to the correct partition. I finally re-installed grub2 and all was automagically correct. Go figure. [21:13] So now as soon as the Xubuntu team gets their daily builds up, testing can begin. [21:14] And I can commence to break things :) [21:15] i have two useless netbooks now.. [21:16] Combine them and make one useless netbook out of them? [21:16] Install Ubuntu/Unity and Gnome3/Shell and let them fight it out? [21:17] i have gnome3 on other one [21:17] Shell Wars! [21:17] i think other one has two small screen [21:17] 480×800 [21:17] Sysi: Yes but that's Fedora )iirc), so that doesn't count [21:19] gnome3 broke unicode on xfce-terminal on ubuntu [21:20] every BT gui failed on *buntu too [21:26] i think i'm putting kde-netbook there, i *could* try kubuntu because with that ican get the globalmenu [22:55] Hi, anyone knows if there is a ppa for xfce 4.8 on ubuntu 11.04 ? [22:55] xfce 4.8 comes with 11.04 by default [22:55] no need for a ppa [22:56] pleia2, yes, but I have installed xfce on ubuntu 11.04 [22:57] I guess I don't understand your question [22:57] if you install the xfce4 package, you get xfce 4.8 on 11.04 [22:59] Ummm! ok! ppa not find a xfce 4.8 for U-11.04: / in case future updates! [23:17] I believe xfce isn't that fast with updates. 4.6.1 to 4.6.2 for example took almost a year.... if i'm not mistaken [23:17] Default behavior of alt-space is to bring up a menu on the left side of a window. I'd like it to do a backspace. Anyone know what I need to change? [23:18] (I just got a new keyboard with a small backspace button that's driving me insane). [23:19] DarkEra: http://wiki.xfce.org/releng/4.10/roadmap [23:21] I just upgraded to 11.04 but I receive this error: http://pastebin.com/EvTESBC8 [23:21] drc: thanks [23:44] ahh, fixed my triple monitor Xinerama problem finally, turns out logging into the xfce session worked, moved the panels to the proper monitor, log back out and into the xubuntu session and everything is fine. weird