=== palhmbs is now known as palhmbs_ === palhmbs_ is now known as palhmbs === palhmbs is now known as palhmbs_ === palhmbs_ is now known as palhmbs [02:12] Can I add a program shortcut on the LXDE main menu that is not in a subcategory, just on the base menu? Can this be done, by chance, by remove the "Categories=" line in the desktop file? Or the "Type="? Or is there another trick? === palhmbs is now known as palhmbs_ [05:18] I could have earned $75 ;) === palhmbs_ is now known as palhmbs === palhmbs is now known as palhmbs_ [05:59] Greetings ! [06:23] Hi, how to open package manager in lubuntu? I saw an update-manager... [06:24] synaptic [06:24] from the menu [06:25] bioterror: now, I saw it. Thank you. [06:26] instead of flash player plugin, will lightspark do the job also? [06:32] we tend to use flashplayer-nonfree [06:41] bioterror: thanks [06:42] np and laters ;) === Semitones_tea is now known as semibottu === palhmbs_ is now known as palhmbs === palhmbs is now known as palhmbs_ === palhmbs_ is now known as palhmbs === palhmbs is now known as palhmbs_ [11:57] Hi ! [12:16] SpaceBack, if you want to chat with us, #lubuntu-offtopic [12:36] bioterror i just said hi ) [12:36] :) [14:33] hi [14:34] is there any recommende email client like thunderbird for lubuntu? [14:36] Is thunderbird too heavy for your computer? [14:37] I haven't tried it yet, I shouldn't think so [14:38] I think Opera has one too [14:38] besides Thunderbird there is Evolution [14:38] oh, I didn't know that [14:38] silverarrow there is Sylpheed [14:39] I have to google them [14:39] :- ) thanks [14:39] http://sylpheed.sraoss.jp/en/ [14:41] sylpheed might be the fastest then? [14:42] dont really know,just try and see if you like it [14:42] I used to have outlook, but I don't use windows that much anymore [14:42] hotmail is so full of spam, and popups [14:43] so you wanted to find a good alternative [14:43] yes [14:43] I shall go for sylpheed, and see how it works [14:43] I don't use hotmail anymore [14:43] I now use google mail or gmail [14:43] is it any better? [14:45] i use hotmail,gmail,mail.com and its the same *hit,but i need a email adress,dont I :) [14:45] I got a bit conserned when youtube and google mail sort of merged [14:46] yes [14:46] we do [14:46] there seem to be less commersials in gmail [14:46] and i used yahoo but them number of spam messages were incredible [14:47] I get spam too in hotmail, but they mostly go in the junk folder [14:47] what you could do is first register a google account and afterwards a youtube one. Next you remove your google account and you can use your youtube account without Google account [14:47] the best of them for me is mail.com [14:48] I have grown to like lubuntu, so on this comptuer it probalby is a good idea to stay with the lightweigh stuff [14:49] I'm also trying to make puppylinux work [14:49] puppy is a great distro but i must say that i didnt expect that lubuntu is such a stable distro [14:49] The only reason I still want ubuntu is because of Totem player [14:50] i used most of my time slackware but i really could not any more get along with the package installation process [14:51] I see [14:51] I never tried slackware [14:51] maybe I will though [14:51] I have used, puppy, lubuntu, ubuntu, fedora, [14:51] slack is a very interesting distro [14:51] linspire [14:52] i used from number 1 to 83 http://distrowatch.com/ [14:52] xD [14:52] cool [14:52] not really [14:53] i had to trash many many cd's [14:53] trouble burning? [14:54] no but i got a box where i can throw away my used cd's for linux [14:54] there are many distros [14:55] yes, I have no amition to try them all lol [14:55] but some I will [14:55] arch must be on your list [14:55] its a great distro [14:56] and slack and gentoo [14:57] after that you are really good linux user :D [15:21] bac [15:21] back [15:21] sorry, I got a phone call [16:03] hi [16:04] hi [16:05] hi [16:06] why isn't Opera in package manager? [16:06] silverarrow: it isn't free software [16:06] are you shore? [16:07] its definitately closed source [16:07] I think you can find it in the ubuntu partner repository or just on opera.com. They have a ppa or something like that [16:07] it's free for download, and in Puppy linux it is found as a puplet [16:07] its freeware but not free software [16:07] I see [16:08] ubuntu uses the partner repo for something like that [16:08] thanks, usefull to know these things ;- ) [16:08] see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#Adding Canonical Partner Repositories [16:12] when I download opera, I get a warning "risk to system" or something like that [16:13] how much am I likely to mess up if I mark off for natty-backports? [16:15] silverarrow: its not recommened for the average user [16:16] its only useful if you know how to report and send a bug [16:16] I might not do it then [16:16] I think my old hard drive must have been full of errors [16:16] lubuntu runs like a dream now [17:41] strange, lubuntu is using 466 out of 512 MB of memory when nothing is running. normal? doesn't seem very light to me [17:44] pmatulis, do you have a gpu which use shared memory? [17:45] DooitzeCompaq: this is a kvm guest with the cirrus emulated card [17:45] okay [17:46] sounds strange [17:46] DooitzeCompaq: it's disappointing [17:46] Try virtualbox [17:47] I used lubuntu with less memory than 512MB [17:48] maybe its a bug that it uses too much memory when running on a kvm host [17:48] I use Lubuntu on laptop which has 256MB RAM [18:04] so I think its a bug pmutils, use virtualbox [18:15] DooitzeCompaq: alright [18:15] good luck pmatulis [19:44] hi === palhmbs_ is now known as palhmbs [20:03] how do I install from root? [20:03] I am in termial window, and it asks for root command [20:04] sudo apt-get install [package] [20:07] hmm, terminal closed [20:07] weird [20:07] I usued to be able to download Opera with out terminal [20:07] £$½"#% [20:14] why do I get terminal and not package manager? [20:21] is it possible to download Opera from terminal? === palhmbs is now known as palhmbs_ [20:22] silverarrow: You can install Opera from a repo (hosted on their server) [20:23] I have dowloaded directly from their site, but installation got a bit tricky with root commands [20:24] sudo dpkg -I opera.deb [20:24] silverarrow: You should be able to do this: wget -O file http://deb.opera.com/archive.key && sudo apt-key add file && sudo sh -c 'echo "deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ stable non-free" >> /etc/apt/sources.list.d/opera.list' && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install opera [20:26] yes something is happening [20:27] bioterror: That was from the bonny events... [20:28] where did you find that Unit193? [20:28] worked like nothing else [20:28] I just put it into one command: http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppas/15 [20:29] cool, I shall have to remember that [20:29] Error in file "/usr/share/applications/gnumeric.desktop": "zz-application/zz-winassoc-xls" is an invalid MIME type ("zz-application" is an unregistered media type) [20:29] should I worry about the last message there? [20:32] I shall have to go on Amazon and find a book on how to get to now Terminal window [20:32] !cli | silverarrow [20:32] silverarrow: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal or type in it: man intro [20:33] cool [20:33] I got a lot of lib updates after the Opera installation, are they any good in Lubuntu? [20:34] I wouldn't know, I don't use or plan to use Opera [20:35] you are in firefox? [20:35] I tried midori, which was all right, exept for it kept crashing [20:37] midori isn't bad... [20:40] maybe I shall give midori a chance [20:40] I'm told Arora is small (but it's QT) [20:42] QT ? [21:14] Unit193: arora is lightweight. Its written in qt4 but who cares ;) [21:15] Unit193, what's wrong with qt? [21:15] leszek: I haven't use it much, but that will bring in a TON of depends [21:15] Unit193: why ? [21:16] Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6~), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1), libqt4-network (>= 4:4.5.3), libqt4-script (>= 4:4.5.3), libqt4-sql (>= 4:4.5.3), libqtcore4 (>= 4:4.7.0~beta1), libqtgui4 (>= 4:4.6.1), libqtwebkit4, libstdc++6 (>= 4.1.1) [21:16] that are the dependencies. I think this aren't so much [21:17] Hmmm... 37 MB isn't all that much (I must have already got half of them) [22:33] does lubuntu use pulseaudio? [22:34] no [22:34] just alsa [22:34] would it make sense to install pulseaudio on a 10yr old lubuntu laptop so I could stream music to it from a different computer? [22:35] http://mpd.wikia.com/wiki/Music_Player_Daemon_Wiki ? [22:36] I kind of wanted the laptop to be more of a thin client [22:37] and all of the music would be played from youtube or mp3, but transmitted through LAN to the laptop (and thus the speakers) [22:38] install mpd client to your laptop and mpd to your mp3 storage computer [22:40] is mpd easy to control? [22:40] like could I play a song in rhythmbox or similar, and have it play on the laptop? [22:42] look that url I pasted ~10mins ago [22:47] i've been reading it, and it looks like pulseaudio is better [22:47] how difficult would it be to use pulse instead of alsa? [23:27] Hi what are you supposed to use as a user name and password for the live CD lubuntu 10.04 [23:49] How do I test RAM easily? [23:50] GTRsdk, mem test [23:51] it is a part of most live CDs [23:59] Rave1, is it possible by just using the menu on the GRUB bootloader?