[00:16] <cjwatson> skaet: FYI, /srv/cdimage.ubuntu.com/backups/natty-unreleased/ has copies of the eight current daily builds that we didn't release with 11.04
[00:16] <cjwatson> (on antimony)
[00:17] <cjwatson> and trying an initial round of oneiric CD builds before bed
[00:19] <skaet> cjwatson,  thanks.
[01:59] <cjwatson> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/
[01:59] <cjwatson> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[01:59] <cjwatson> several images way oversized, and absolutely no idea whether they work
[01:59] <cjwatson> also not cronned yet
[02:00] <stgraber> wow, they actually built the first time around?
[02:00] <cjwatson> yeah
[02:00] <cjwatson> I did wait until I thought they probably would
[02:00] <cjwatson> I suspect amd64/efi may be busted, haven't checked yet
[02:06] <skaet> very cool.    :)
[02:07] <cjwatson> hah, amd64 doesn't even build, score
[02:07] <skaet> when do we cut over from doing the natty daily builds?
[02:07] <cjwatson> skaet: what natty daily builds?
[02:07] <cjwatson> (no daily builds since we released)
[02:07] <skaet> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ has natty builds in it...
[02:08] <skaet> d'oh
[02:08] <skaet> april 26
[02:08] <skaet> sorry,  my bad.
[02:08] <cjwatson> yeah, those were carried over by accident, I just removed them
[02:08] <skaet> :)
[02:08] <cjwatson> well, not by accident, by a long-standing cdimage bug/misfeature/something
[02:09] <cjwatson> anyway, bed
[02:09] <skaet> sleep well.
[02:09] <stgraber> good night
[14:25] <cjwatson> promoting ttf-sil-nuosusil, since it's a successor of ttf-sil-yi which was previously in main
[15:34] <cjwatson> Laney: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/
[15:34] <cjwatson> merry Christmas
[15:39] <Laney> happy days!
[15:39]  * Laney adds IS to the Good List
[15:41] <cjwatson> I think I got everything of yours sucked in
[15:41] <cjwatson> had to hack it a bit for lucid
[15:42] <cjwatson> wrote http://paste.ubuntu.com/612768/ as a 'go' script
[15:42] <Laney> I think some of my claims in readme.txt might be lies
[15:42] <cjwatson> I edited that a bit
[15:42] <Laney> you can add --use-cache to the 2nd+ runs
[15:42] <Laney> and you might want --run-debcheck too
[15:43] <cjwatson> aha
[15:43] <cjwatson> --run-debcheck for all of them?
[15:44] <Laney> that's how I had it yeah, but I don't know if that's necessary
[15:44] <cjwatson> http://paste.ubuntu.com/612772/
[15:44] <cjwatson> oopsie, need edos-debcheck installed
[15:45] <Laney> you could even put it at line 14
[15:45] <cjwatson> how do you mean?
[15:45] <cjwatson> oh, the cache
[15:46] <cjwatson> done
[15:46] <Laney> bonza
[17:00] <cjwatson> Laney: --run-debcheck back in now (thanks lamont)
[17:00] <Laney> brillo pads, thanks
[17:39] <bdmurray> What was the Final Answer about Karmic being supported?
[18:56] <skaet> bdmurray,  Karmic is EOL'd now.  In process of working through checklist and trying to get it shut down officially now.   Issue that was holding up the decision is documented in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-ec2/+bug/737761
[18:56] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 737761 in linux-ec2 (Ubuntu Karmic) (and 1 other project) "linux-ec2: 2.6.31-308.29 -proposed tracker (affects: 1) (heat: 14)" [Undecided,Fix committed]
[18:58] <bdmurray> skaet: is there an EOL checklist?  I'd like to take a peek at it
[18:59] <skaet> bdmurray,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EndOfLifeProcess - if you spot anything missing,  that should be done, feel free to add ;)
[19:01] <bdmurray> skaet: I was just curious about meta-release since I was looking at that today
[19:02] <skaet> bdmurray,  have ping'ed  mvo to edit it, and waiting on him.
[19:03] <bdmurray> skaet: right, okay
[19:03] <skaet> can you deactivate karmic-updates for me - I still dont seem to have permission... grumble.
[19:03] <skaet> ?
[19:06] <maxb> On a semi-related note, is there a planned date for shutdown of karmic PPA builds?
[19:09] <skaet> maxb,  its being coordinated with the OEM folk, within the next 6 months. If I am understanding your question correctly.
[19:10] <skaet> cjwatson,  can you do the honors on turning off karmic-updates milestone?  my perms still aren't letting me.
[19:11] <maxb> Thanks - it's interesting to know to plan maintenance of PPAs - will a date be announced somewhere once it's decided?
[19:15] <skaet> maxb,  will talk to the OEM team and see if something can be arranged.   Where would you be looking to see the announce though?
[19:15] <maxb> I don't mind - anywhere I can look to see once it's been decided :-)
[19:15] <maxb> IIRC, intrepid just stopped working one day, and jaunty is still enabled
[19:17] <maxb> Maybe launchpad-users would be a good place to announce it
[19:19] <skaet> One the EOL announce goes out,  they are effectively unsupported and can disappear at any time.    However,  will talk with OEM, and see if we should add something to the process notes to make it explicit.
[19:50] <mvo> skaet: supported is set to false now
[19:55] <skaet> thanks mvo.  :)
[19:55] <mvo> np
[21:48] <cjwatson> skaet: done
[21:49] <skaet> cjwatson,  thanks!
[23:39] <cjwatson> Laney: are you running the libav transition?  do you know if it typically requires sourceful changes, or if it's just a slew of rebuild-only uploads?
[23:39] <cjwatson> oh, heh, /usr/share/doc/libavcodec53/APIChanges
[23:40] <micahg> cjwatson: sourceful changes :(, but it's good to know about that file :)
[23:41]  * cjwatson might steer clear then, not having the time for that
[23:42] <cjwatson> not doing sync requests at the moment because qa.debian.org is down
[23:42] <cjwatson> (bed anyway)