[00:00] ah, good to know [00:05] SpamapS: Have you talked to folks in #ubuntu-ops about it? I haven't updated a factoid for a long time, but that was helpful when I did... [00:08] I don't remember [00:10] SpamapS: what was the new factoid, i think i have foo to update it. [00:10] ? [00:11] !-ebox [00:11] Daviey: zentyal should basically be the same as ebox with the string replaced, and ebox should point to the zentyal factoid [00:11] I already ported the Zentyal page too https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Zentyal [00:12] !servergui probably wants to be updated to match too === robbiew is now known as robbiew_ [00:13] ebox has no aliases - added by LjL on 2008-01-16 23:51:42 - last edited by jussi01 on 2008-04-25 19:25:35 [00:13] shauno: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [00:17] !zentyal [00:17] What did you do to poor ubottu ? [00:17] !ebox [00:17] ebox is a web-based GUI interface for administering a server. It is designed to work with Ubuntu/Debian style configuration management. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/eBox [00:17] !zentyal [00:17] zentyal is a web-based GUI interface for administering a server. It is designed to work with Ubuntu/Debian style configuration management. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Zentyal [00:17] \o/ [00:21] !ebox [00:21] zentyal is a web-based GUI interface for administering a server. It is designed to work with Ubuntu/Debian style configuration management. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Zentyal [00:22] Daviey: ty! [00:22] yay for zentyal :) [00:23] SpamapS, Wonder if it should reference that it was formally known as ebox? [00:25] !servergui [00:25] Ubuntu server does not install a desktop environment or X11 by default in order to enhance security, efficiency and performance. !eBox provides a GUI system management option via a web interface. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerGUI for more background and options. [00:25] altho it's still ebox in LTS, so whether that's wrong or not is possibly debatable [00:27] shauno: its mentioned in the linked page [00:28] !ebox [00:28] zentyal is a web-based GUI interface for administering a server. It is designed to work with Ubuntu/Debian style configuration management. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Zentyal (Project formally known as eBox - including in Lucid/10.04). [00:28] Everyone is happy :) [00:28] Daviey: no, I'm pretty sure smoser is still a little peeved. [00:29] * Daviey hopes he is :) [00:32] So, I just heard about zentyl: is my brief reading correct that this is a web-accessible administration framework perfect for use on a small NAS box? [00:33] persia: Anytime you put framework and perfect in the same sentence, you are certain to be wrong. [00:33] This is part of why I'm asking :) [00:33] Then your answer is "No." [00:34] I can tell that without knowing anything about zentyl. [00:34] All the past remote administration tools I've heard about have grave issues of one sort or another. [00:34] It may suggest a different question is in order. [00:34] Indeed. Perhaps I'm asking for some hints as to how it isn't perfect. [00:34] Agreed. The only non-broken remote administrative interface I'm aware of is ssh. [00:34] And it's not perfect. [00:35] Since it doesn't appear to be packaged, I expect it's unlikely you'll find much experience with it here. [00:36] According to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Zentyal it's a rename of ebox: I figured the rename just hadn't hit oneric yet. [00:38] First I heard of the rename. [00:39] We did do some work with ebox devs several cycles ago, but it seems to have died out. [00:39] Hrm. Oh well. Based on the impetus information that led to me being interested, I figured folk who are often here would have been involved, but if it's not been discussed here (obviously, or you'd know), and as PPAs are being recommended (always indicative of questionable practices), I suppose I'm incorrect. [00:40] It's been awhile, but the best thing I remember they gave up on being current in Ubuntu and just went to a PPA. [00:40] It was better than webmin, but not particularly wonderful as I recall. [00:40] better than webmin isn't saying much :) [00:41] I'm not saying it's bad either. That was awhile ago. [00:42] Understood: I'm interpreting your comments as "I'm not that familiar, but I'm trying to be helpful" [00:43] Maybe Daviey or SpamapS will catch backscroll, and have recommendations (or at least some understanding why the Ubuntu documentation is recommending a PPA) [00:44] That and "this laptop is too heavy to carry open, one handed while I try to navigate to the table without losing my wifi connection at the restaurant." [00:44] You should know better than to thing that anything in the community section qualifies as Ubuntu documentation. [00:44] And this is why one shouldn't bother brining a laptop > 600g to a restauran [00:44] t [00:45] When I left the house I didn't know I was going to a restaurant. [00:46] And I'll be the first to admit that while one can do a lot of things on a super light platform, thre are limitations [00:47] the ebox/zentyal guys were at UDS-O [00:47] hello, is there a correct way to get a more up to date apache2/php setup on 10.04 ?? [00:48] i looked in backports but did not see anything [00:48] SpamapS: Will zentyal be coming to oneiric? What are some of the disadvantages? [00:49] ebox == zentyal in oneiric [00:49] they just haven't renamed the packages [00:50] upstream do not put as much effort into non-lts releases.. but they are starting to ramp up for 12.04. [00:50] Which is unfortunate.. we should probably help them do that. [00:51] well, aiui, they consider it a 'best effort'... but not supported by upstream [00:52] That's kinda unfortunate, as it makes transitions a lot harder. [00:53] Pretty slick screencast [00:53] I'd hope they'd have a flexible enough build system to do the right thing on all of development, current, and current LTS. I don't think it's an issue if they only offer end-user support for LTS, but developer support should be wider. [00:54] persia, yeah... it's best effort... I can't argue too much with that [00:55] I can't argue with the wording, but lots depends on what it means. If it means "We'll work on it, but don't bother us too much unless you're prepared to help a bit", that's fine. If it means "We might get around to that if we have time", that's less exciting. [00:58] persia, they did a pretty complete lecture at FOSDEM this year, I think the video went online.. looking [01:01] bah, can't find it [01:02] One of the honcho's does frequent here, i'll push him your way if you have further questions. [01:03] Thanks. === rickspencer3_ is now known as rickspencer3 [02:17] anyone using a Drobo (specifically Drobo-s) with server? any tips on formatting, lun size, etc? [02:25] willl do-release-upgrade upgrade my LTS to the latest LTS or will it go to 10.10 [02:26] sabgenton: it can do both. check /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades for a line reading Prompt= [02:26] as in 10.04 to 10.04.2 [02:26] is what I want [02:26] ah [02:26] can i do that? [02:26] sabgenton, For that, `apt-get dist-upgrade` is sufficient. [02:26] That is, if you have -updates enabled in your /etc/apt/sources.list [02:27] whats the difference between dis-upgrade and upgrade [02:28] sabgenton, It's slightly different handling of cases where packages conflict or replace each other. [02:28] when do I use upgrade [02:28] The apt-get(8) manpage describes the differences in fair detail [02:28] k [02:28] ok dist-upgrade it is [02:29] Unless someone had to do something fairly strange, 10.04->10.04.2 should be OK with just "upgrade". I tend to use dist-upgrade when I *know* I want to upgrade just to work around things. [02:29] so does do-release-upgrade upgrade do what I want though? [02:29] or will it allways up the version number to the current stable [02:29] just currious [02:29] No. do-release-upgrade will try to move 10.04 to 10.10 or 12.04 (depending on configuration). [02:30] ok so u can choose verison numbers but not the same version number [02:30] Rather, you can choose between "next 6-monthly release" and "next biannual release". [02:31] "when I *know* I want to upgrade just to work around things." [02:31] eg? [02:31] Sometimes there's an upgrade of something where the developers need some package to be uninstalled or a different package to be installed. For stable releases, this is extremely rare. [02:34] so dist-upgrade fixes dep isuse where as upgrade just upgrades? [02:34] or fixes more dep isuuses [02:35] at least [02:35] Treats dep issues slightly differently. dist-upgrade is allowed to uninstall something to resolve things (it will tell you what). upgrade is not. === dead_letter is now known as MTecknology === hallyn is now known as hallyn_afk [03:36] SpamapS: 'https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/Server/20110405' [11:09:25] SpamapS : to put his version of ubuntuserver-minutes in directions for writing minutes [03:42] persia: thx for before :) [03:54] http://paste.debian.net/117892/ is it just me, or does NFS root_squash break setgid? [04:02] New bug: #787891 in openvpn (main) "openvpn should soft-restart on interface up" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/787891 [04:37] i have to pick and build a 2.6.36+ kernel for a hyper-v guest (for the staging drivers). any advice on particularly good/bad versions? [04:44] hyper-v can't emulate a 486? [04:45] dunno, what does it matter though? [04:47] Well, .32 has drivers for a 486 [04:49] does it have the ethernet accel drivers? i want to avoid using the legacy hyper-v adapter mainly [04:49] I imagine that "accel" means "not a 486" [04:50] the equivalent of linux KVM's virtio stack [04:50] exactly [04:50] accel in the "virtio hyper-v equivalent" sense [04:51] So what I'm saying is: unless you demonstrably need that extra I/O throughput, don't try to fuck with your distro's stable, tested kernel === nigelb_ is now known as nigelb [04:55] allright [04:55] i know they are in staging, but maybe they are working well [04:56] s/they/the hyper-v drivers/ [05:38] hi folks... can someone help me in configuring openvpn? i want to ensure that *only* a few types of traffic go through the vpn. i.e. like web browsing. right now i'm using hidemyass's openvpn config and it seems to be sending *everything* through the vpn. [05:45] hallyn_afk: its in the comments of wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/Meeting === smb` is now known as smb [08:02] I just set up a new raid1, and the new one has "super 1.2" in /proc/mdstat in addition to my old md0 which doesn't. Anyone knows what this "super 1.2" actually mean? [08:17] speakman: its telling you that the format of the super block is the new 1.2 format [08:31] oh, so theres a new format.. *googling* :D [08:53] speakman: sounds like the superblock is at /dev/sda1 [08:53] assuming retarded grub2-style numbering [09:03] Can one "upgrade" the superblock easily? [09:05] by the way - which filesystem is to prefer for file storage these days? [09:10] speakman: ignore me, I'm talking rubbish [09:10] As to filesystem -- btrfs as soon as it's ready, and ext[432] until then [09:14] twb: Ok. I'll just keep on with my extfs then. :) [10:31] New bug: #788004 in postfix (main) "package postfix 2.8.2-1ubuntu2.1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 75" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/788004 [10:31] New bug: #788006 in samba (main) "package winbind 2:3.5.8~dfsg-1ubuntu2.2 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/788006 [10:38] hi, i'm on a Lucid server and i ry to use openssl with IPv6... but i cannot do a s_client -connect IPv6 --> i get connect: Invalid argument... do you know a solution? [11:16] Hello guys, could you please help me with the partitioning thing! it is making me crazy and i can't understand it. I have two hard discs each one is 1tb and I am intending to install zimbra email server on my 10.4.2 server. thnx [11:20] :( [11:22] What are you trying to do with the two disks? [11:26] persia I want to install Zimbra email server and the seller told me that buying tow hard discs is better for a server! i know how to manage to email server but I don't know about portioning. [11:26] partitioning * [11:29] Right. So there's a number of ways that two drives can be an advantage. [11:30] 1) you can put the OS on one and the data on the other [11:30] 2) you can mirror the data between them for reliability [11:30] 3) You can charge more when selling a server and get a larger commission [11:30] yes. [11:30] So, you have to decide which of those applies in your case. [11:31] I want to mirror the data between hard discs for reliability. [11:32] https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/advanced-installation.html : read the section on "Software RAID". [11:33] (the procedures are unchanged from 10.04 to 10.04.2) [11:38] Syria: http://www.cybersprocket.com/2010/blog/setting-up-raid-1-on-ubuntu-10-04/ [11:39] lambda_x: Thx [11:40] np [11:40] can I add sources by adding files to /etc/apt/sources.list.d or is it for something else? [11:41] "Select the first hard drive," the 1st hard drive is SCSI3 (0.0.0) (sda) ? [11:41] Syria: you got sda and sdb I guess?, so first will be sda [12:17] lambda_x: Still here? [12:22] Hi, someone already deals with openssl s_client connect? [13:20] hallyn_afk: morning, poke me when you're around [13:46] New bug: #788091 in samba (main) "package smbclient 2:3.5.8~dfsg-1ubuntu2.1 failed to install/upgrade: corrupted filesystem tarfile - corrupted package archive" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/788091 [14:00] hey guys how do i create another session with byobu? when i just type byobu it reattaches to the current current session. I want to start a new session with it [14:00] Doonz: byobu -S new [14:01] Doonz: just launch, but give the new one a different title [14:01] Doonz: or, you can do "byobu bash" if you don't care about the title [14:01] Thank youi wasnt using the -S switch and it was comaplaining about the directory [14:01] Doonz: no problem, enjoy ;-) [14:02] thanx again [14:05] kirkland: would it be better if we linked the IRC channel on the top of the room name and possibly in all the session pages? [14:05] kirkland: um, re:summit :) [14:05] nigelb: yes! [14:05] nigelb: i'm sorry my code sucked :-) [14:05] nigelb: but I think it's a good idea [14:06] kirkland: heh, that was in the works last time (I believe I still own the bug), will try to get it out for next time :) [14:06] nigelb: it would be *awesome* to 1) install chatzilla as a firefox plugin, 2) click on irc link and land in channel [14:06] nigelb: sweet, you da man! [14:07] :) [14:18] kirkland: whats up? [14:20] hallyn_afk, shouldn't you be afk? === hallyn_afk is now known as hallyn [14:21] Daviey: nyeh [14:22] lynxman: rabbitmq-erlang-client rabbitmq-stomp needs to be updated to 2.4.1 in order for it to work in oneiric [14:23] zul: library dependencies? [14:23] zul: shouldn't be a problem I reckon [14:23] lynxman: nope rabbitmq-server is now 2.4.1 on oneiric [14:23] zul: oh darn *snap* [14:23] zul: okay, putting that in my todo :) [14:23] lynxman: thats why mcollective is having problems connecting to the stomp server [14:24] zul: yeah plugins are very version dependant [14:25] zul: I'll redo the packages for 2.4.1, hopefully today, refactoring the provisioner code *sob* [14:29] Daviey: so for reviewing blueprints do we put the comments at the bottom? [14:30] zul, Well... smoser raised a valuable point that it doesn't store history there. [14:31] I did think about sending a mail to the server list with the title of each bp [14:31] *but*, i think i'd be criticised for noise. [14:31] So.. probably better to stick with the whiteboard. [14:31] Daviey: sure but if you are subscribed to the spec then you get a diff of the whiteboard change [14:31] exactly [14:40] zul: is there anyway we can liaise the rabbitmq plugin packages to rabbitmq, so there's some sort of alert or dependency trigger... or the same maintainer [14:41] lynxman: i usually take care of rabbitmq-server but i wasnt aware of rabbitmq-stomp and erlang-client when i did the merge ill be more careful next time [14:41] zul: aah okay :) [14:44] zul: I'll get you the new packages in some mins [14:45] Daviey: o/ so you ended up not emailing anything after all, not even on how to proceed on commenting the BP;s? [14:54] lynxman: pardon my ignorance :-) ... but ./usr/share/orchestra/rsyslog/orchestra-client.conf:*.* @@1.1.1.1:514 [14:55] lynxman: what's that in rsyslog parlance? [15:02] RoAkSoAx, at the moment, no. [15:04] lynxman: nevermind, I think I'm digesting it now [15:04] Daviey: k [15:05] kirkland: hah sorry, was in PPA hell [15:05] kirkland: let me know if I can help :) [15:06] lynxman: it's okay; i'd like to get an orchestra 1.0-ish into archive review ASAP [15:06] kirkland: yeah I know, I would feel better if I could integrate nagios beforehand, but... it's in a stable place now [15:06] lynxman: nah, we need to cut this version loose and keep rolling [15:06] kirkland: rolling rolling rolling... rawhiiiide [15:07] lynxman: your knowledge of Americana never ceases to amaze me :-) [15:08] kirkland: Well my mother is from Panama... so it's almost as if I've been raised in Miami ;) [15:08] lynxman: heh [15:10] it's almost the same, except for the corrupt government and the poor areas surrounding the city [15:10] so it's the same [15:10] :D [15:10] ... [15:12] zul: https://launchpad.net/~lynxman/+archive/ppa [15:12] err nevermind, build error [15:16] build packages in the wrong order, shame on me :) [15:27] lynxman: http://paste.ubuntu.com/612759/ [15:27] lynxman: do those permissions look right? [15:27] lynxman: that's a lot of 600 ... are there passwords or private data in those files? [15:28] kirkland: in the seed one there is, and cobbler runs as root so it should be okay I imagine [15:30] lynxman: one more thing ... debian/ubuntu-orchestra-monitoring-server.install:monitoring-server/* / [15:30] lynxman: there's nothing in that dir yet [15:30] lynxman: i'm going to drop that install file for now [15:30] lynxman: add it back when you get the nagios bits [15:30] kirkland: sounds good [15:31] New bug: #788146 in bacula (main) "package bacula-director-mysql 5.0.3-0ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: sub-processo script post-installation instalado retornou estado de saída de erro 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/788146 [15:53] SpamapS: are you around? [15:57] wtf - just upgraded a VM here from 10.10 to 11.04, and it starts up with just grub telling me it can't boot [15:57] any ideas how to fix that? [15:57] * RoyK doesn't like grub2 === NG_ is now known as ng_ [16:25] hi [16:25] hi [16:25] been running a software raid5 in debian for quite a while - it's very stable, no problem at all so far. how about ubuntu server here? [16:26] DexterF: running raid5 in my ubuntu server, no issues [16:26] Dont think you will see an issue. I run zfs and its been rock solid. [16:27] aurigus: zfs via fuse? [16:27] until a week ago. [16:27] ..and now? [16:27] The posix layer has just been released for zfs natively on linux [16:28] So now I'm running natively :) [16:28] how come this wasnt in the newstickers? [16:28] good news, but how were the licensing issues resolved? [16:29] I was going to make a big deal about it, blog posts and such, but it is still beta [16:29] RC4 [16:29] I wasn't sure of its stability either... but for the last week or 2 its been rock solid [16:29] performance over linux-md? [16:30] Haven't had time to do any benchmarking [16:31] hallyn: pong.. whats up? [16:32] reason I'm asking: I'm planning to consolidate file server and htpc. now debian stable is not really the best platform for htpc and testing not for a raid fileserver [16:32] hence I'm eyeing 10.04 [16:33] * patdk-wk just uses a seperate box for both of those [16:33] I'm running it on 11.04 and its working fine [16:33] Im just using it as a file server though [16:35] SpamapS: i was just remining you about an action you had last month, to put up your meeting notes posting script in the knowledgebase :) [16:35] hallyn: right, I guess in the comments of the meeting page isn't all that discoverable. ;) [16:35] there used to be a "how to do the minutes" page [16:36] lol [16:36] well i always look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/KnowledgeBase at the bottom [16:38] ahh thats the page [16:38] stupid moin's sucky search [16:41] hallyn: I updated the link to point at mine, since it supersedes mathiaz' old branch [16:48] SpamapS: cool, thanks [16:49] http://karlsbakk.net/grub.png <-- this is all I get after upgrading this VM to 11.04 - any idea what to do next? [16:57] Im curious if anyone can give me some advice regarding RAID arrays [16:58] shoot [16:58] Right now, I've got a 4TB file-syste, (3x 2TB disks) in a RAID5. and I've ordered two new 2tb disks to expand as Im running out of space. Would I be better off upgrading to RAID6 and giving me 6TB of storage or would RAID5 be safe-enough with 8tb [16:59] I do weekly backups of all my files as is, (although starting to run out of backup space haha..) [17:00] raid-5 is rather safe, but new drives tend to be worse than older drives due to density [17:00] Slyboots: given that 1TB recoveries will probably take *hours* .. I would go w/ RAID6 [17:00] Mmm.. [17:00] err.. I read the original wrong.. 2TB .. RAID5 would be almost insane. [17:01] and I'm not sure if you can change from raid-5 to raid-6 without recreating the raidset [17:01] Slyboots: did you test how long a re-sync takes when you created the RAID5 ? [17:01] SpamapS: haha.. it takes.. quite some time [17:01] Yeah thats a backup / restore operation [17:01] about 8-9 hours [17:01] SpamapS: insane? [17:01] 8-9 hour window for another drive to fail... add on the time between failure and replacement.. [17:01] Wow, well.. wiping the server will be a major pain in teh ass [17:02] seems changing it should be possible http://neil.brown.name/blog/20090817000931 [17:02] Slyboots: honestly this is why you're better off with 10 little drives than 5 giant drives. [17:03] RoyK: nice! [17:03] how can I make "hostname" give "example.com" instead of "example" ? [17:03] Well Im in the process of backing up my server. [17:03] Im actually tempted to shfit the OS onto its own disk.. and just not RAID it at all [17:03] bencc: the hostname should be a single word - the domain is another thing [17:03] bencc: see /etc/defaultdomain for the domainname [17:04] bencc: hostname -f [17:05] RoyK: I think in this case he wants his FQDN to be example.com .. not just the domain [17:05] bencc: you'll probably want to look at changinging /etc/hostname [17:05] but why? [17:06] Because he wants his website to be that server? [17:06] Its a perfectly valid configuration and quite common. [17:06] SpamapS: no need to change the hostname for that - simply a matter of configuring dns+apache [17:07] I mean, *I* wouldn't do it, but its not a huge problem. [17:07] I need several application to get the "same" hostname [17:07] puppet and erlang [17:07] one thinks it's example and the other example.com [17:07] imho it's rather silly - adding an A record to allow for http://example.com/ isn't hard, but setting the hostname to the FQDN isn't really a good idea [17:09] So I just add the new disks to the RAID array. then run mdadm --grow ... [17:09] And that'll conver it to RAID6 [17:09] RoyK: why not? [17:10] because one day you want another host in that domain [17:10] erlang is particularly picky about hostname [17:10] and the normal way to set things up, is to set a hostname on the host and add that hostname to a domain [17:11] SpamapS: how does it get inet:gethostname() ? [17:11] bencc: to RoyK's point, it would be better to pick something like 'web00.example.com' and let example.com be just a DNS alias. [17:11] a programming language shouldn't really bother with the hostname on which it's running [17:11] SpamapS: not all DNS servers allow for FQDN to be registered as a CNAME record - but then - adding another A record won't hurt [17:12] RoyK: unless it is distributed... [17:12] bencc: at boot up, /etc/hostname is read and fed into the 'hostname' program. So you can change that file, and then run 'sudo hostname `cat /etc/hostname`' and then restart any services you need to see that hostname. [17:12] RoyK: whoa whoa nobody said anything about a CNAME [17:12] SpamapS: hostname -F /etc/hostname [17:12] alias != CNAME [17:12] kirkland: you about? [17:12] SpamapS: same thing [17:12] RoyK: man pages FTW ;) [17:12] nigelb: howdy [17:12] hostname -F /etc/hostname doesn't effect erlang inet:gethostname() even after reboot [17:13] kirkland: novacut folks have a vid of you on the bass :) [17:13] * pmatulis loves his bandwidth (wget output: 713,385,984 9.98M/s in 97s) [17:13] RoyK: no, a CNAME is most certainly *not* the same thing. CNAME is for giving away control of one hostname to another domain. [17:13] SpamapS: no, it certainly is not [17:13] ok, whats it for then? [17:14] it's an alias [17:14] Common NAME [17:14] nigelb: hehe :-) yikes [17:14] SpamapS: delegation isn't done in the zonefile - it's done in the bind config (or whatever dns server you use) [17:14] heh [17:14] Canonical name actually [17:14] well, still, it doesn't have anything to do with delegations [17:15] CNAME == alias [17:16] I didn't say delegation, thats a word with a lot of meaning in DNS. I used small words because its a conceptual definition. You give away control of a single hostname to another domain not in the same zone.. if it were in the same zone, you could just set the address to the same thing. [17:16] Some people certainly misuse it that way. [17:16] But they're wasting their DNS server's time and resolvers' time doing two fetches. :-P [17:17] Anyway, they are aliases, yes, but they are not the only way to make an alias. [17:18] And are probably the worst way. [17:18] Need help, trying to install ubuntu 64-bit server ver 11.04, i can choose language and when i choose install ubuntu server it just reboots. no error no nothing, any ideas? [17:19] D0minat0r: installing from a CD? [17:20] SpamapS: yes [17:20] the dvd-rom spinns to speed then reboot [17:21] D0minat0r: are you certain you have a 64-bit machine? [17:22] yes and i have tried 32bit installer too same thing [17:22] D0minat0r: very strange indeed. [17:22] D0minat0r: I believe there is a memory test option on the CD.. maybe you could run that? [17:23] running [17:26] SpamapS: takes a while... :) [17:30] D0minat0r: indeed, though I'd say if it runs through the first 2 passes you can cancel it and we can move on to other diagnostics [17:30] it passes no errors [17:32] can someone shed some light on bridge interfaces? I have a couple setup but can't pass any traffic [17:32] i read that it needs cap_net_admin capability due to a kernel bug. Is this still true ? [17:35] peydude: I have a server running kvm with bridging - works well [17:36] that's exactly what I am trying to accomplish. I have two guest servers, my host can pass traffic fine (with or without vlan tagging) but when my bridges are setup [17:36] the guest OSs are not accessible [17:38] peydude: pastebin your network config [17:38] as in /etc/network/interfaces [17:39] as well as your guest xml files [17:41] SpamapS: i took away 2 gig ram of 4gig and it works [17:41] dual channel memory [17:42] D0minat0r: hm weird [17:42] Here is the host interface file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/612826/ [17:42] pretty basic [17:42] let me grab my guest xml [17:43] peydude: virsh dumpxml name > name.xml [17:46] guest xml: http://paste.ubuntu.com/612827/ [17:48] peydude: your bridge config is unusual. i usually use just a single line but you have 12 [17:48] peydude: does br0 even work? [17:49] pmatulis: you are right. I have specified how the system should bring the bridge down and up to avoid any errors (e.g. bridge already exists ... ) [17:49] pmatulis: no. if I just attach a single interface to it it won't pass any traffic regardless of it being a kvm interface or a host interface [17:50] pmatulis: that's what i was asking about bridged interfaces to begin with. [17:50] why* [17:51] peydude: do you have bridge-utils installed? [17:51] pmatulis: you are probably used to a setup like the one in this doc: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Networking [17:51] pmatulis: yep otherwise i couldn't have setup the bridge :) [17:52] peydude: but you said it doesn't work [17:52] peydude: that's pretty vague [17:53] peydude: i recommend setting it up manually [17:53] pmatulis: let me set it up manually and see if I can get any traffic to go through ... brb [17:54] I set postfix dovecot w/ sieve and it is work, but to make it work I remove maildrop now my mail does not get delivered [17:54] Jcook_5xData: why did you need to remove maildrop to make it work? [17:55] weel I guess I dint not but maildrop does not read .dove.seive file does it has it own filter [17:56] I am doing all this because of roundcube does not support filter other now sieve [17:57] Jcook_5xData: put maildrop back. you may then need to edit master.cf (comment maildrop line out) [17:58] D0minat0r: I'ts probably worth reporting a bug about it when you've got the info settled down, (also interesting to see if it works if you re-add the memory post-install for example..) [18:01] done [18:09] pmatulis, do I need a deliver agent then? [18:09] I can not find any good how to on this === hallyn is now known as hallyn_afk === The is now known as Guest48296 [18:39] arand: well i think it has something motherboard because the system wont function with the 2 onboard LAN devices, when i activate them i have to take aay more ram and only have 1gig of ram for it to run [18:39] its so strange right no [18:41] D0minat0r: Yes, very odd [18:42] motherboard is Abit in9 32-MAX [18:42] crap [18:44] * RoyK just came in - D0minat0r what's up? [18:45] RoyK: trouble getting ubunut to run on that mobo [18:46] D0minat0r: what does it say? [18:47] a sec, re installing [18:47] had to take away 1 gig ram for the installer to work with the onboard lan devices [18:47]