[00:07] <MarkDude> http://www.bitpusher.com/careers.php is hiring in San Francisco and Seattle
[05:30] <MarkDude> aaditya, Nixie was asking about meeting up- I suggested your place
[05:30] <MarkDude> BBQ and hot tub
[05:31] <MarkDude> She may be moving to the City
[05:31] <pleia2> san jose?
[05:31] <MarkDude> We need to pick a day in June-
[05:31] <MarkDude> lol
[05:31] <MarkDude> pleia2, the City is always SF
[05:31] <pleia2> oh :)
[05:32] <MarkDude> Its ok
[05:32] <MarkDude> its all part of the local ego here- like bay area
[05:32] <pleia2> anywhere else it would be "the city, philly" "oh you philly twits, thinking you are the center of the tri state area!"
[05:33] <MarkDude> Yep
[05:33] <akk> No, here "the city" is SF even if you're in SJ.
[05:33] <akk> just the local lingo for some reason
[05:33] <pleia2> (fwiw, philly is the center of the jersey, delaware, pennsylvania tri state area ;))
[05:33] <MarkDude> along with over the hill meaning drive thru tunnel to Contra Costa
[05:34] <MarkDude> Well the city she lives in now is near Excremento
[05:34] <pleia2> same tunnel as for walnut creek?
[05:34] <sn9> "the city" is sf even in fresno
[05:35] <MarkDude> so either SF or SJ would be upgrade
[05:35] <MarkDude> pleia2, yep same tunnel
[05:35] <sn9> i hear ya
[05:35] <pleia2> poor sacramento :)
[05:35] <MarkDude> Caldecott
[05:35] <pleia2> MarkDude: does that mean I can say you're over the hill?
[05:35] <pleia2> no better, jono is over the hill
[05:35] <sn9> i live there, pleia2
[05:35] <MarkDude> yes- in numerous ways
[05:36] <pleia2> :)
[05:36] <sn9> i'm in sf atm, though
[05:36] <MarkDude> lol
[05:38] <MarkDude> Sac-town is not my favorite place
[05:38] <pleia2> I've never been
[05:38] <MarkDude> on the upside- it is neither Bakersfield nor Turloc
[05:38] <MarkDude> No need to go there
[05:39] <pleia2> we drove through bakersfield on our way to vegas once
[05:39] <pleia2> they have oil there
[05:39] <pleia2> and dust
[05:39] <sn9> what do you have against turlock?
[05:39] <MarkDude> well the two rivers are actually way cool to float down
[05:39] <MarkDude> sn9, all sorts of things
[05:39] <MarkDude> sry turdlock
[05:39] <MarkDude> :D
[05:39] <pleia2> oh dear :)
[05:40]  * MarkDude apologizes
[05:40]  * sn9 drove through bakersfield on the way from vegas yesterday
[05:40] <pleia2> see, now would be the time to bust on walnut creek, but it's an easy target and you'd enjoy it
[05:40] <MarkDude> One issue about Cali- is that we have such cool stuff- it makes it hard to be noteworthy
[05:41] <MarkDude> Walnut Creek has a big-ass bullseye on it
[05:41] <sn9> and then through wasco
[05:41] <pleia2> sn9: heh, we decided driving to vegas is crazy :)
[05:41] <pleia2> 12 hours, aaagh
[05:41] <pleia2> and I quite like airplanes
[05:41] <sn9> why 12?
[05:41] <MarkDude> See like Hayward- it would be a real great city were it in another state/place- but since it is near such cool places- its not that impressive
[05:42] <pleia2> well, you have to stop for food and breaks
[05:42] <pleia2> so ~10 hours, plus stops
[05:42] <sn9> the person i live with is stuck in DFW atm and hates airports as much as i do
[05:43] <sn9> connecting flight was canceled
[05:43] <pleia2> ouch
[05:43] <pleia2> I was stuck in frankfurt for 5 hours a couple weeks ago, but they were good about rebooking
[05:44] <pleia2> I took the opportunity to have a frankfurter sausage :d
[05:44] <sn9> she's been waiting in .
[05:44] <sn9> she's been waiting in line to rebook for hours
[05:44] <pleia2> that's awful
[05:45] <sn9> she was going to bring food with her out of SFO but forgot
[05:45] <sn9> she has $4 on her, total
[05:45] <akk> yuck
[05:46] <akk> The state of air travel is really horrifying sometimes
[05:46] <akk> that you can get stuck like that
[05:46] <sn9> thunderstorms
[05:47] <pleia2> decent airlines will give you food vouchers when you rebook
[05:48] <pleia2> all of them probably will if you get cranky at them :)
[05:48] <sn9> well, she'd have to rebook to get them, then
[05:48] <pleia2> yeah
[05:48] <sn9> that means waiting in line
[05:49] <sn9> there were no empty seats on the canceled flight, so they ALL have to rebook
[05:49]  * pleia2 nods
[05:49] <pleia2> I probably waited in line for 45 minutes to rebook in frankfurt, my delayed flight out of LAX caused a lot of us to miss connections
[05:49] <sn9> i happen to be on hold with AA atm in case i can rebook for her before that
[05:50] <pleia2> nice
[05:50] <sn9> 40 min so far
[05:55] <sn9> she can't get online because everybody stranded is clogging the airport connection
[06:16] <aaditya> MarkDude: sounds good
[06:39] <MarkDude> Hopefully I can schedule this work soon- Then we can get in a geeknic also
[08:20] <sn9> [Tue 2011-05-24 09:47:43 PM PDT] <pleia2> decent airlines will give you food vouchers when you rebook
[08:20] <sn9> [Tue 2011-05-24 09:48:03 PM PDT] <pleia2> all of them probably will if you get cranky at them :)
[08:20] <sn9> AA flatly refuses, no matter what
[17:12] <mischief> hello, does anyone here have information on Ubuntu Hour occuring in Sacramento, CA today?
[17:13] <crashsystems> oh OSX, why u so buggy?
[17:25] <pleia2> mischief: I haven't heard anything about one today, where did you read about it?
[17:28] <akk> Nothing listed on the upcoming events page. When is that Roseville one, or has a date been set yet?
[17:28] <pleia2> no date set yet
[17:28] <akk> I hope the organizer doesn't get scared off by all the criticism on the ML.
[17:32] <kdub> coming to a consensus on a time and place over a mailing list is like herding cats
[17:32] <akk> It's been a weird discussion, because I didn't think a consensus was needed for an UH.
[17:32] <akk> Isn't it supposed to be: someone picks a time and place, and hopes other people show up?
[17:33] <pleia2> yeah, the guy who started it just picked a place across from where he works, I picked one in the building I live in, but it doesn't hurt to ask the opinion of others
[17:33] <pleia2> ultimately it's up to the organizer and the time and place that works for them
[17:33] <akk> Sure, but jumping on the guy because you don't find the time convenient ...
[17:42] <mischief> pleia2, the mailing lists
[17:42] <mischief> ubuntu-us-ca specifically
[17:45] <pleia2> mischief: as far as I know they didn't announce a date yet
[17:45] <pleia2> they're just discussing venue so far
[18:16] <nhaines> akk: the conversation about lunchtime events didn't involve the organizer.
[18:22] <nhaines> philipballew: regarding your UH, pick the dates and time that are convenient to you that you think will be most successful.
[18:23] <nhaines> Just be regular and consistent and if it's a good time, then attendance will grow.
[18:25] <nhaines> But the people who are recommending that you ignore any advice and start hosting without any planning are trying to set you up for failure. I can't imagine why.
[18:31] <nhaines> akk: regarding the UH Roseville thread, the conversation about lunchtime events didn't involve the organizer.
[18:45] <akk> ah, I wondered ... got confused about who had proposed it
[18:46] <philipballew> nhaines ok, i think im gonna let that email sit all weekend and see if more people sign up before i advertise. how long in advance is a good time you think to set the date?
[18:47] <nhaines> akk: someone else who said "lunch is convenient for me".  I just said "that's probably not a good idea."
[18:47] <jdeslip> nhaines: I don't think anyone is recommending philipballew ignore your or anyone else's advice (one piece of advice was to have it a lunch). But, let's be honest hear, hosting a "failed" UH event isn't the end of world. If some group of people want to try a lunch meeting sometime, then who cares? Give it a go - have fun and don't worry about things like "success" or "failure"
[18:47] <philipballew> i plan to travel to such bissness as intel and oriacle that are in this town to put flyers in their linux departments
[18:48] <nhaines> philipballew: I'd say two weeks is good... they're informal get-togethers.  But less than one week isn't great.  :)
[18:49] <akk> The paragraph at the end of the BAD shotgun rules applies. http://bad.debian.net/shotgun_rules.txt
[18:49]  * akk loves the BAD shotgun rules :)
[18:49] <philipballew> jdeslip true, but if i am going to put effort into it should't i try to have the effort  to produce results.
[18:49] <akk> They have a very refreshing attitude toward scheduling things
[18:50] <philipballew> nhaines a week to two sounds good. as long as its not to far out and they forget
[18:50] <nhaines> philipballew: yeah, that's the other problem...  that's why regular, consistant meetings are important.  It'll probably be dead the first couple of times too... it picks up steam usually.
[18:51] <nhaines> jdeslip: I'd say Mr. Andrzejak is pretty blatently recommending that philipballew ignore everyone's advice.
[18:51] <MarkDude> http://whitewhine.com/  might as well be called random thoughts from Walnut Creek <<< pleia2
[18:51] <MarkDude> :D
[18:53] <philipballew>  Mr. Andrzejak knows what he is doing, though its different then you. he just has a different mindset about it
[18:56] <akk> The arguments against lunchtime events are all valid. But there are arguments against evening ones too.
[18:57] <philipballew> i like the ones i have gone to in sd on saturday mornings
[18:57] <akk> Most Toastmasters clubs meet at lunchtime.
[18:59] <nhaines> akk: my arguments were "just be aware of these issues as you're planning."
[19:01] <akk> That's a good thing to say, but it came across (to me) a bit stronger than that.
[19:01] <philipballew> nhaines its true, i'm thinking i should just see the times the people on the list can make it possibly.
[19:01] <akk> Maybe I was just being oversensitive (but it seemed like some of the thread participants felt the same way).
[19:02] <philipballew> then they'd invite people
[19:03] <nhaines> akk: hopefully not the first two times I had to say it.
[19:04] <jdeslip> philipballew - I guess I am just saying that you can define "success" and "failure" in a number of ways. One way is just answering whether you and others are having fun at the meeting. For some "events" this might be good enough (these type of casual events have a way of turning into something more later). Certainly recruiting as many new Ubuntu users as possible is a valid goal, too, for an UH - and nhaines advice is valuable here methinks.
[19:04] <akk> IMHO, for an UH if there's anyone there having fun, that's good enough.
[19:04] <nhaines> But "Do you have experience?  I don't have any experience so who's to say who ir right?" and then countering my "yes, actually, years of experience" countered with "Your experience invalidates your opinion" is offensive in my opinion.
[19:04] <philipballew> success is a very ambiguous word
[19:06] <MarkDude> UH should by definition be FUN
[19:06] <nhaines> philipballew: I get anywhere from 0 - 5 visitors on each Ubuntu Hour, on average about 2 visitors.
[19:06] <MarkDude> Definition of fun varies :D
[19:07] <nhaines> philipballew: the good news is that although there are regulars, I do regularly get new people.  :D
[19:07] <philipballew> thats what i get when i do ubuntu hours in san diego with kevin. nhaines
[19:07] <philipballew> wheres the best way to get new people you think?
[19:07] <philipballew> you as in anybody
[19:08] <nhaines> That's a difficult problem, and I think the answer would be advertising.
[19:08] <akk> MarkDude: Fun is one of those "I can't define it, but I know it when I see it" things. :)
[19:09] <pleia2> and making sure the ubuntu stuff you bring is very obviously presented on the table, people who are just lurking in the coffee shop and notice you are an important audience for hours
[19:09] <pleia2> might also ask the venue if you can put up a flier or some business cards somewhere
[19:09] <nhaines> True!  Once or twice I've had someone come up and apologize for interrupting, and say they were curious if we were selling something or what.
[19:10] <akk> Yes, some of our early Mountain View hours had people who were there for the event but didn't figure out which table it was.
[19:10] <akk> Making it obvious somehow is important.
[19:10]  * pleia2 tends to wear an ubuntu shirt with the biggest ubuntu logo she can find ;)
[19:10] <DarkwingDuck> kdub: ping
[19:11] <DarkwingDuck> XD
[19:11] <kdub> pong
[19:11] <pleia2> and I bring cds (burned ones with our nifty sleeves if the pressed ones are no longer available) or stickers, or magazines
[19:11] <sn9> mischief: well, did anyone say anything?
[19:11] <akk> It's easier in summer when you can use t-shirts. In winter it's harder unless you have a big heavy ubuntu coat.
[19:12] <DarkwingDuck> akk: It's nice down here in winter. :P:P
[19:12] <pleia2> I wear t-shirts all year around here
[19:12]  * akk keeps meaning to bring penguins, but always forgets
[19:12] <philipballew> DarkwingDuck S.D ftw!
[19:12] <DarkwingDuck> philipballew: ++
[19:12] <MarkDude> akk sounds like that Supreme Court opinion on porn- Know it when I see it
[19:12] <sn9> philipballew: is the ubuntu hour on?
[19:12] <pleia2> DarkwingDuck: cds arrive ok?
[19:13] <DarkwingDuck> pleia2: Aye, thank yee
[19:13] <pleia2> good :)
[19:13] <akk> MarkDude: Yep, same thing, but different. :)
[19:13]  * akk is off to the meego conference
[19:13] <MarkDude> lol
[19:13] <kdub> hello DarkwingDuck
[19:14] <DarkwingDuck> pleia2: I think I want to build a wiki page with who has CDs and how many so we can have a recept of when/where the CDs were handed out.
[19:14] <philipballew> sn9 it is gonna happen next week i think. need to see if anyone else replies to the email and what they want as a time and place.
[19:14] <sn9> ok, so not today?
[19:14] <DarkwingDuck> kdub: Since we are on the subject of UH, when do you want to do another San Diego UH?
[19:14] <sn9> i'm in Sac again atm
[19:15] <philipballew> sn9 not today. but next week sometime. waiting to see if people want tunch. dinner or what. if both cant decide i might do a sat morning
[19:15] <sn9> i have no clue what next week may be like for me, depending on this weekend
[19:15] <nhaines> philipballew: two points.  1) nobody RSVPs, ever, and if they do they're lying.  2) I'm not driving to Roseville and especially not at lunch so don't count on me.  ;)
[19:16] <sn9> i may be looking for a new place to live
[19:16] <philipballew> sn9 leaving sac?
[19:16] <nhaines> sn9: I'll cross my fingers for you!
[19:16] <sn9> i have to stay in sac for the moment
[19:16] <sn9> just not in this apartment
[19:17] <sn9> though, that may still change
[19:17] <philipballew> sn9? i see. sac has its nice areas
[19:18] <sn9> i need _cheap_
[19:18] <philipballew> sn9 is it cheeper in sac or outside?
[19:19] <DarkwingDuck> kdub_: Since we are on the subject of UH, when do you want to do another San Diego UH?
[19:19] <sn9> i need to check
[19:19] <sn9> i am in natomas atm
[19:19] <kdub_> i'll set one up for 3 weeks i think
[19:19] <philipballew> sn9 auburn myself
[19:20] <kdub_> DarkwingDuck: we've been inconsistent about the location, maybe its time to pick&stick to one
[19:21] <philipballew> kdub_ do you feel a new location to stick to, or a previous one that we can just start using?
[19:22] <kdub_> eh, dunno
[19:22] <DarkwingDuck> kdub_: Aye, Downtown or you want to keep it north?
[19:22] <kdub_> MarkDude was talking about how he got a pretty good relationship going with a coffeehouse owner
[19:22] <kdub_> might be a good goal to work for
[19:22]  * DarkwingDuck nods
[19:22] <MarkDude> Yep
[19:22] <kdub_> that, or there's a hackerspace that might be friendly, but thats out in santee
[19:22] <MarkDude> Find their slooow time
[19:23] <DarkwingDuck> ewwwwww, Santee?
[19:23] <pleia2> hackerspace is better for larger events
[19:23] <kdub_> DarkwingDuck: my sentiments too
[19:23] <MarkDude> the santee place might work for 3-4 times a year *bonus* meetings
[19:23] <nhaines> The real magic is going to be consistancy.
[19:23] <philipballew> kdub_  pannera worked in a lot of ways because of its location being central in all sd
[19:23] <philipballew> nhaines then people dont always have to keep up on the changing dates
[19:24] <kdub_> sorta, people have a real thing against going downtown after work sometimes
[19:24] <DarkwingDuck> We could find someting at horton plaza... Parking is validated.
[19:24] <kdub_> that, and there are a few decent small-time coffee shops in OB and PB that might be open to a more cordial relationship
[19:25] <DarkwingDuck> I'm in IB. :P
[19:25] <philipballew> OB has some really nice ones i have been to that would not mind us
[19:25]  * MarkDude grew up in PB- that place rocks
[19:25] <nhaines> philipballew: the dates, yes, but even more important is trying to keep up on the venue.
[19:25] <MarkDude> or at least it did - while I was there
[19:26] <pleia2> yeah, we've had to move the SF hour a week later a couple of times, but the venue and the day of the week stayed the same so it didn't really hurt attendance so far
[19:27] <pleia2> plus it's super close to downtown public transit
[19:27] <DarkwingDuck> kdub_: I'm not worried aobut locations... I just wnat something that is central and is easy to access. Downtown is simple because of access, parking and MTS
[19:28] <philipballew> free parking with mall validation!!! DarkwingDuck
[19:28] <DarkwingDuck> philipballew: Oh I know.
[19:28] <DarkwingDuck> and MTS hub is like 3 blocks away
[19:29] <philipballew> DarkwingDuck seemes logical. would there be a way to have a coffee house there accept us i wonder\
[19:30] <DarkwingDuck> I'll head over there in the next couple days and talk to a few people.
[19:31] <philipballew> DarkwingDuck, that sounds like it could work. kdub_ probably will look in ob and pb is his neck of the woods as well
[19:32]  * DarkwingDuck nods
[19:34] <kdub_> DarkwingDuck: there's a 'its a grind' kitty corner to nordstroms, and there's a starbucks in the mall
[19:35] <DarkwingDuck> kdub_: Aye, I was thinking of setting up a booth outside the mac store. :P:P
[19:36] <philipballew> i have been to that its a grind kdub_  it seemes nice and near the parking grauge. there is a microsoft store now at fashion
[19:36] <kdub_> i don't want steve jobs to come and overturn our table
[19:36] <philipballew> kdub_, think of the cool pictures that would make!
[19:36] <iheartubuntu> do it :) i once handed out Ubuntu CDs in from of the mac store in Pasadena. Nothing out of the norm there. other people look for volunteers for free movie screening, etc
[19:36] <DarkwingDuck> LOL
[19:37] <philipballew> iheartubuntu, do they care?
[19:37] <MarkDude> iheartubuntu, for Free Software day - Courtney pushed my wheelchair around- and we handed out Linux CDs as well as cross-platform stuff
[19:37] <MarkDude> Folks did nOT know what to think
[19:37] <iheartubuntu> who? people i gave the discs to? all of them had not heard of ubuntu. i recall them all being 15-25 or so
[19:38] <iheartubuntu> i would think hardcore mac users probably know about ubuntu
[19:38] <iheartubuntu> markdude, you are in a wheelchair??
[19:39] <pleia2> only after falling off things
[19:39] <MarkDude> I was
[19:39] <pleia2> :)
[19:39] <MarkDude> pleia2, Gravity is a MoFo
[19:39] <philipballew> iheartubuntu, the guy at the mac store told me that if i have a mac buying micfosoft word is pointless because i should just download openoffice
[19:39] <pleia2> MarkDude: also, bones get brittle at your age
[19:39] <MarkDude> Perfect safety record was ruined by my Grandma's garden trellis
[19:40] <MarkDude> Like I had the crap beat out of me by flowers :P
[19:40] <pleia2> heheh
[19:41] <iheartubuntu> nhaines - you have awesome and valid points about scheduling meetings, i just think people should not be afraid to experiment
[19:41] <iheartubuntu> markdude must be old :)
[19:41] <MarkDude> iheartubuntu, it was a very cool learning experience actually. It gave me a greater understanding of people with mobility issues- since then I try to make sure meeting spots are accessible
[19:41]  * MarkDude just turned 40
[19:42] <MarkDude> luckily I look much younger
[19:42]  * iheartubuntu now i feel old
[19:42] <MarkDude> its ok- jdeslip acts about 50-60
[19:42] <iheartubuntu> ohh pleia2 did i read you went geocahcing!?
[19:42]  * MarkDude kids 
[19:42] <iheartubuntu> geocaching
[19:43] <pleia2> iheartubuntu: sorry, I was continuing a joke from yesterday where MarkDude said that local terms call that beyond a certain tunnel here in the area was known as going "over the hill" and MarkDude lives on the other side of that tunnel
[19:43] <pleia2> so he's over the hill, old jokes ensue :)
[19:43] <pleia2> and yep! went geocaching for the first time, in budapest
[19:44] <iheartubuntu> awesome. ive done it a bit... putting ubuntu CDs at some already created geocaches in socal :)
[19:45] <iheartubuntu> most of the geocaches around me though are very very small
[19:45] <pleia2> MarkDude: fun fact from our last partimus board meeting me, grantbow and christian turn 30, 40 and 50 respectively this year
[19:45] <iheartubuntu> i'll put an official disc in a plastic bag nearby
[19:45] <iheartubuntu> is there a geo app for android
[19:45] <crashsystems> I've always thought that someone should find a way to combine geocaching, QR codes and cryptography.
[19:46] <pleia2> iheartubuntu: yeah, I hear actual gpses are much better than ones on phones for geocaching
[19:46] <iheartubuntu> i actually bought a handheld GPS and wasnt thrilled with it... i couldnt afford a color display... ended up getting a phone instead
[19:46] <MarkDude> G and I have similar backgrounds- that still gives me pause ;)
[19:46] <pleia2> I'll have to ask itnet7 what his was, it was neat
[19:46] <iheartubuntu> ive even geocached by printing google maps out :)
[19:47] <iheartubuntu> and u know the official site probably http://www.geocaching.com/
[19:49] <pleia2> oh yeah, I should make an account
[19:50] <iheartubuntu> there is an old missile silo near where i work... several geocaches around it :)
[19:50] <iheartubuntu> from the cold war days
[19:50] <pleia2> there
[19:55] <DarkwingDuck> Really?
[19:55] <iheartubuntu> what
[19:55] <iheartubuntu> silo?
[19:55] <DarkwingDuck> Can anyone else boot a LTS image?
[19:55] <nhaines> Yes?
[19:56] <DarkwingDuck> I've tried 3
[19:56] <DarkwingDuck> None will boot.
[19:56] <iheartubuntu> u just downloaded it?
[19:56] <DarkwingDuck> Yup
[19:56] <nhaines> Can you be more specific?
[19:56] <DarkwingDuck> server 32 and 64 and ubuntu 32
[19:56] <DarkwingDuck> vesamenu.c32 not a COM32R image
[19:56] <iheartubuntu> hmm. so my LTS discs work from months ago. i'll DL one now and check it in 30 min
[19:57] <nhaines> Does md5sum match?
[19:57] <DarkwingDuck> Yup
[19:57] <nhaines> Are you burning them to CDs or using a virtual machine?
[19:57] <DarkwingDuck> It might be my vid card... this is an bad old desktop
[19:57] <nhaines> What happens when you burn at 8x?
[19:57]  * iheartubuntu recognizing discs on any Natty system doesnt work for me
[19:57] <DarkwingDuck> it's on USB
[19:58] <nhaines> What happens when you try another stick?
[19:58] <DarkwingDuck> 3 sticks
[19:58] <nhaines> Also are you using Startup Disc Creator for 10.04 or for 10.10 or higher?
[19:58] <iheartubuntu> what about disc
[19:59] <nhaines> Because 10.10+ won't properly create a USB stick for a 10.04 image.
[19:59] <DarkwingDuck> ahhhhh
[19:59] <DarkwingDuck> Thanks nhaines
[19:59] <crashsystems> anyone else have issues with multiple monitors in unity?
[19:59] <DarkwingDuck> Thats the issue then.
[19:59] <nhaines> isolinux changed or something, and there's an extra keyword you have to add.  It's a quick Google search away to fix.
[20:00] <nhaines> crashsystems: can you be more specific?
[20:00] <DarkwingDuck> Yeah, I found it.
[20:00] <nhaines> DarkwingDuck: I'm not sure why they didn't add a workaround to the disk creator but... they didn't.  :)
[20:00] <crashsystems> when I'm using unity and plug in a 17" screen via vga, the resolution goes all crazy, and I can't fix it. If I log into the classic session, I can get sane resolutions.
[20:02] <nhaines> crashsystems: what happens when you boot the machine with the monitor attached?
[20:02] <crashsystems> crazy resolution, though I've not tried booting with it attached and subsequently logging into classic session
[20:04] <nhaines> crashsystems: what video card are you using and what driver do you have loaded?
[20:04] <crashsystems1> Intel card
[20:05] <DarkwingDuck> nhaines: It's broken with Kubuntu USB Creator too
[20:05] <nhaines> DarkwingDuck: yes, same program underneath.
[20:05] <nhaines> I think.
[20:05] <nhaines> crashsystems: Intel makes dozens of cards.
[20:05] <DarkwingDuck> ohhh, this weekend I'll know if I made it to the Kubuntu Council
[20:06] <MarkDude> DarkwingDuck, does the Kubuntu Council all wear blue robes
[20:06] <MarkDude> with gears on them
[20:06] <MarkDude> kinda like the council that Supermans Dad was on?
[20:06] <crashsystems> I've got the newer one that is integrated with the i7
[20:06] <crashsystems> the laptop is a thinkpad x201
[20:07] <DarkwingDuck> MarkDude: LOL
[20:07] <crashsystems> I'd give you the exact version number if the laptop was booted currently
[20:07] <nhaines> crashsystems: without the exact version number there's nothing we can do.
[20:08] <MarkDude> Actually DarkwingDuck its more fun to think of you dressed as Zod
[20:08] <nhaines> Run 'lspci' next time the laptop's booted, and try #ayatana, they might be able to better assist you.
[20:08] <DarkwingDuck> MarkDude: XD
[20:08]  * MarkDude needs to GIMP that
[20:08] <MarkDude> actually the 3 leads for Cali- would all make a great Superman villains pic
[20:09] <MarkDude> Nothin' like satin jumpsuits
[20:11] <DarkwingDuck> LOL
[20:12] <DarkwingDuck> Well, when I come up there Jack Lyz and I will have to pose for it.
[20:12] <DarkwingDuck> :P
[20:12] <DarkwingDuck> Jack = AndroidNix Lyz = Ubuntu Girl Dave = Gears Boy
[20:12] <DarkwingDuck> XD
[20:14] <jdeslip> DarkwingDuck: you coming up here sometime soon?
[20:14] <DarkwingDuck> jdeslip: I'm hoping to.
[20:14] <jdeslip> Likes AndroidNix :)
[20:15] <DarkwingDuck> Thought you might.
[20:15] <DarkwingDuck> XD
[20:16] <MarkDude> Let me know
[20:28] <crashsystems> nhaines: btw the card is the Intel GMA HD