[00:02] Does anyone have tonight's agenda, yet? [00:19] bluebomber_usf: http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/team/75/detail/ [00:20] Thanks. I was looking in the wrong place. [00:20] http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/team/72/detail/ [00:21] no prob [00:21] hey did you hear of this yet http://www.hackersbay.in/2011/05/skype-exploit-gives-attackers-root.html [00:22] skype 4 mac had bad hole [00:22] lol [00:24] * munz sinisterly snickers [00:27] bluebomber_usf: the wiki header needs to be updated to link to tonights if your interested ;-) [00:28] Wow, munz [00:28] Amazing. [00:42] yea, i was like wow! [00:57] cjohnston, nah, it's already pointing away from the wiki. Are we moving [00:57] moving? === itnet7 changed the topic of #ubuntu-us-fl to: || Our Next Team Meeting: Tuesday, May 24th, 9:00 pm EST || Please add agenda items to our LoCo Directory Meeting Page located here: http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/team/75/detail/|| http://www.ubuntu-fl.org [01:20] sorry 'bout that! [01:21] cjohnston: are you planning to attend SELF? [01:21] itnet7: are you? [01:21] I was thinking about it... I would really like to [01:22] I'd like to.. but $$ is my issue [01:22] pak33m and I were talking about going again [01:22] hmm [01:22] Let's see what he says... it will be here before we know it [01:24] I know [01:27] Trying to get the day off now [01:29] cool [01:32] ...moving away from the wiki? [01:32] Sorry. Apparently xchat sends your message if you leave it in the input box long enough. lol [01:32] I think I'm going to SELF. [01:33] bluebomber_usf: much to my disagreement, not that I know of [01:36] Hmmm.... [01:36] So hungry.... Will there be food at tonight's IRC meeting? [01:36] lol [01:38] sure [01:38] your providing [01:40] please pass the chips to munz please [01:51] chaynie: ping [01:52] bluebomber_usf: cool RE: SELF [01:54] bluebomber_usf: we are beginning to rely more on the LoCo Directory for events and meetings. Such great work has been put into it, and there are some really great plans for the future features [02:00] #startmeeting [02:00] Meeting started at 01:00. The chair is itnet7. [02:00] Commands Available: [TOPIC], [PROGRESS REPORT], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] [02:00] Okay, Guess we'll get started... Hopefully chaynie will be along shortly :-) [02:00] [link] http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/team/75/detail/ [02:00] LINK received: http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/team/75/detail/ [02:01] tonights agenda [02:01] cjohnston: are you ready for the first topic? [02:02] Show of hands? [02:02] o/ [02:03] bluebomber_usf chaynie cjohnston danstoner erictee himuraken jimmah maxolasersquad mhall119 munz zoopster [02:03] o/ [02:03] hey there himuraken ! [02:03] yo [02:04] Howdy [02:04] geez...brb my friend is being empathetic atm [02:04] Hi All [02:04] :-) [02:04] Hey there erictee ! [02:05] Let's just give everyone a couple of minutes.... we have changed the meeting time to 9 pm hopefully that will work out better for most folks [02:05] o/ [02:05] Wow I just randomly connected and it happens to be Right on time [02:06] himuraken: sweet! [02:06] Via honeycomb nonetheless :-) [02:06] nice!! [02:06] have you tried the "hacker" keyboard? it gives you arrows for connectbot [02:06] among other really cool things [02:06] Neg [02:07] Free on market? [02:07] Ah, There's chaynie ! [02:07] himuraken: yes! [02:07] Ah HA! [02:07] Woo [02:07] * chaynie_ does dramatic pose. [02:07] nice! [02:07] itnet7: I'm ready [02:07] cool [02:07] let me put up the topic [02:07] [TOPIC] UbuCon @ Self Speakers - Chris Johnston @ Tue, 24 May 2011 22:01 UTC [02:07] New Topic: UbuCon @ Self Speakers - Chris Johnston @ Tue, 24 May 2011 22:01 UTC [02:07] LD is beautiful [02:07] sorry. [02:07] It is! [02:08] So.. GTswagger needs speakers at UbunCon.. If you will be attending SELF or want to attend SELF, and can speak about something related to *buntu on Friday 6/10 or Sunday 6/12, let GTswagger know. [02:08] [02:09] mootbot/locodirectory integration would be an awesome project for someone. [02:09] It surely would be, and I believe it's somewhat in the works chaynie ! [02:09] its a wishlist that needs devs. [02:09] Is anyone seriously planning to go to SELF? [02:09] * cjohnston looks at chaynie_ [02:09] *cough* summer of code *cough* [02:09] I am... [02:09] i think [02:10] Yes. [02:10] maybe? [02:10] I'm seriously planning to go to SELF. I'm comparing airline prices. [02:10] bluebomber_usf: that's a good idea, though we'll probably drive again [02:10] Oh, even better! [02:10] ;) [02:11] Battery is done sorry all. [02:11] too bad danstoner isn't around, i would like to know if he was planning to go [02:11] next topic? [02:11] [TOPIC] UDS Breakdown - Cary Haynie @ Mon, 02 May 2011 16:42 UTC [02:11] New Topic: UDS Breakdown - Cary Haynie @ Mon, 02 May 2011 16:42 UTC [02:11] break it down [02:12] where is SELF again? [02:12] lol [02:12] SC [02:12] zoopster: Spartanburg, sC [02:12] ah [02:12] OK, since I didn't actually go to UDS, can someone who actually went talk about it a little? [02:13] * chaynie_ looks at cjohnston [02:13] cjohnston: you want to? [02:13] :-) [02:13] no [02:13] I'm still disgruntled [02:13] 200 million users in 4 years!!!! [02:13] too many work items [02:13] cjohnston: definitely [02:14] cjohnston: Do you think they over commited this release? [02:14] chaynie_: I'm not quite sure what you have heard and haven't [02:14] This is going to be refinement cycle, staying away from major inclusions [02:14] I've been out of it for the last two weeks. On purpose. [02:14] and fixing/fine tuning things [02:14] chaynie_: they overcommitted a few web devs [02:15] we have a core team of 3 with an extended team of 6... and have ALOT of work [02:15] django dev anyone? [02:15] * chaynie_ raises his hand. [02:15] I'm learning python finally, and should be able to help soon [02:15] But I'm already stretched pretty thin. [02:15] I'll see what I can do though. [02:15] and one of our core devs is now much less available [02:16] I know python. <.< [02:16] chaynie_: /j #ubuntu-website - tell nigelb_ to show you how to fix the stuff he broke [02:16] cjohnston: lol [02:16] bluebomber_usf: sweet! [02:16] bluebomber_usf: if your interested in learning django, we can always use help [02:16] cjohnston: I'm copy/pasting that line into that channel. [02:16] ;_ [02:16] ;) [02:16] itnet7: be right there :) [02:17] cool jimmah ! [02:17] he is in here, so he will see the ping [02:17] but thats fine [02:17] chaynie_: testing was done on summit production during uds ;-) [02:17] cjohnston: Ewwwwww. [02:17] ftw [02:17] * chaynie_ feels dirty all of a sudden. [02:18] chaynie_: There is going to be a focus on quality, Canonical is going to be posting a bunch of QA positions [02:18] yes...large change in QA this cycle [02:18] Cool. Hey, zoopster! [02:19] itnet7: Isn't it a little late in the cycle to start hiring people? [02:19] hey there russ_ ! [02:19] chaynie_: they are gearing up for the LTS [02:19] you're looking at a 1/2 month spin [02:19] up [02:19] chaynie_: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2494160/y7Hm9.jpg [02:19] not for qa [02:19] cjohnston: you kill me [02:19] cjohnston: That's how we pros do it. ; [02:19] ;) [02:19] what did i do now itnet7 [02:20] crap, can't type today. =( [02:20] I love that .jpg [02:20] I need a drink [02:20] too bad im at work [02:20] lol [02:20] you can have water [02:20] cjohnston: What station? [02:20] by disney [02:20] on 535 [02:20] Nvm. [02:20] y [02:21] So, trying to think of other important things with UDS, There is going to be a huge developer outreach [02:21] sorry dude. if it was one of the 3 or so close by, I'd drop some by. [02:21] o [02:21] lol [02:21] We still on topic? [02:21] * bluebomber_usf scrolls up for topic [02:21] bluebomber_usf: topics are relative. [02:21] yes.. uds > coding... coding > drinking.. its all the same [02:21] lol [02:21] I really wasn't sure. And your notice just dropped my scroll bar back to the bottom of the window. lol [02:21] ergo, uds > drinking. [02:21] ah, I love math. [02:21] okay well here's a topic for chaynie_ to discuss [02:22] Transitivity. [02:22] 200 million users and qa was most of wat I had a chance to gather from uds itnet7 [02:22] [TOPIC] Discuss Summer Jams - Cary Haynie @ Mon, 02 May 2011 17:43 UTC [02:22] New Topic: Discuss Summer Jams - Cary Haynie @ Mon, 02 May 2011 17:43 UTC [02:22] ditto cjohnston ! [02:22] chaynie_ is going to teach me django and python? [02:22] Summer Jams. Cool. [02:22] Ok, so no really new features planned then? [02:22] I saw USF listed as a prospective site. [02:22] cjohnston: I can teach anyone python. [02:22] We definitely can do that. [02:22] chaynie_: not really.. refinement [02:23] cjohnston: check out learn python the hardway... you cand download it for free [02:23] except rabbits, they refuse to listen. :( [02:23] a couple things with server and openstack [02:23] ^^ [02:23] it has opened my eyes :-) [02:23] itnet7: I refer back to my .jpg [02:23] lol [02:23] zed shaw's book is quite good. [02:23] thats how im learning python [02:23] It surely is [02:23] pak33m: !!!! [02:23] ROAD TRIP! [02:23] yeah!!! pak33m [02:23] we can do some zen of python stuff over the summer if you want. [02:23] Are these Summer Jams for learning? [02:23] Yeah, pak33m! [02:23] horaay [02:24] bluebomber_usf: whatever you want them to be [02:24] * bluebomber_usf joins in peer pressure [02:24] pak33m: wut wut! [02:24] * chaynie_ raises some sort of roof. [02:24] thank for the luv all [02:24] bluebomber_usf: Yes, we just need to come up with some ideas of what people would like to do [02:24] dont drop it too hard.. i dont want to have to work chaynie_ [02:24] cjohnston: noted. [02:24] chaynie_: that sounds cool, i would loveto learn python :) [02:24] Hacking jams on community-web-projects [02:24] Packaging Jams, Bug Jams, etc. [02:25] cjohnston: definitely! [02:25] Django Djams! [02:25] * bluebomber_usf shakes head [02:25] I volunteer mhall119 to lead those [02:25] Tampa's an option. [02:25] lakeland or orlando [02:25] And I can help with Python events, but I don't know Django. [02:25] tampas forever away [02:25] cjohnston: good show lad... especially when he's not here to say No! [02:25] :-) [02:25] :-) [02:25] cjohnston: It's an hour and a half. [02:25] less, if I kick in the turbo. [02:26] chaynie_: you made my point [02:26] Yeah, Lakeland's 45 minutes from us here. I don't know where everyone is, though. [02:26] cjohnston: I'll drive if you get the day off. [02:26] chaynie_: were you planning on having something monthly, or just trying to get a feel for who would be interested? [02:26] +1 [02:27] me me [02:27] o/ [02:27] Me too of course! [02:27] itnet7: I think I want to gauge interest, and potentially set a date for a intro jam. [02:27] as well as a topic for said jam. [02:27] chaynie_: sweet! [02:27] cjohnston: what are you volunteering me for? [02:27] itnet7: poll? [02:27] nothing ;-) [02:27] chaynie_: sure [02:28] mhall119: You're donating your kidneys to poor children. You generous soul. [02:28] we can put it up on ubuntu-fl.org and send it out to the list [02:28] bluebomber_usf: What sort of facilites are available in tampa? [02:29] I think Orlando has few good venues that will hold us all at this point. [02:29] chaynie_: maybe as a central place for most we can do it at USF - Lakeland Campus potentially [02:29] at least once or twice [02:29] itnet7: That's an idea. [02:29] We have conference rooms, computer labs, two campus-wide wifi networks, one open, the other secured, and a Beef O Brady's. [02:29] I have never been to the Lakeland campus. [02:30] lakeland is slightly better for me coming from daytona [02:30] bluebomber_usf: How much of that would be able to get access to? [02:30] We have lots of stuff here on campus; did you want to know more about Tampa or USF? [02:31] Okay, so we'll get the poll up, let's talk particulars after the meeting if you have time chaynie_ ! [02:31] itnet7: Done! [02:31] Last topic [02:31] [TOPIC] Party with jamalta - Cary Haynie @ Mon, 02 May 2011 20:52 UTC [02:31] New Topic: Party with jamalta - Cary Haynie @ Mon, 02 May 2011 20:52 UTC [02:31] Good question. I'm sure of access to all that except the computer labs. I'm not sure about our policy to reserve them. [02:31] yay!! [02:31] This one has a hard dependency on jamalta being present. [02:31] Plus parking will be an issue for any USF campus, including Lakeland. [02:32] FYI. [02:32] bluebomber_usf: We travel in packs, fret not. :) [02:32] chaynie: Do you walk in single file to hide your numbers? [02:32] chaynie_: any inklings of when and for how long he'll be here? [02:32] bluebomber_usf: sometimes [02:32] bluebomber_usf: astride, to increase them. [02:33] itnet7: nah, We were gonna wait until the meeting to dicuss it so no one missed out on the info. [02:33] Only you can guess the irony now. ;) [02:33] :-) [02:34] I've got to talk to him about a job here though, so I'll get the info and disseminate it via itnet7. [02:35] Cool! [02:35] Well if no one has anything else... [02:35] And now that I've got irc back on my work pc, I'll be around more. [02:35] +1 chaynie_ ! [02:36] because this beats 133k lines of flash code EVERY TIME. [02:36] [TOPIC] Open Discussion, Anyone have something they'd like to talk about? [02:36] New Topic: Open Discussion, Anyone have something they'd like to talk about? [02:37] so what was the outcome of the party on 2 May? [02:37] ya lost me on that one [02:37] zoopster: ? [02:37] Oh, those were the dates that the topics were put up [02:38] ah [02:38] I believe [02:38] I wanted to tell everyone about the great talk that zoopster gave here at USF recently. [02:38] bluebomber_usf: ? [02:38] Yeah, yeah ^ [02:38] cool! [02:38] go ahead! [02:38] Last Friday zoopster gave a great presentation on Ubuntu and Canonical at an IEEE-CS meeting we had. We packed out the room at 3p.m. on a Friday afternoon. [02:39] great news!! [02:39] I kept the pizza hot. [02:39] The event gathered a lot of interest and students (and staff) came with some great questions. Thanks go to zoopster! [02:39] \o/ good job zoopster ! [02:39] zoopster: Which talk was it? Was the hamster one? [02:40] lol [02:40] Yeah, it's a good sign when we have nothing leftover but napkins. My labmates got mad (usually we have leftover food), but whatever. [02:40] =D [02:40] I do want to learn more about the hams [02:40] itnet7: http://projecthamster.wordpress.com/about/ [02:40] bluebomber_usf: We never have any food leftover at events, (last UDS Pizza party comes to mind) [02:40] ;) [02:40] I don't remember mention of a hamster. [02:41] cool chaynie_ I thought you were referring to ham radio ops [02:41] chaynie_: shhh. [02:41] that's MY super secret project [02:41] Heh. [02:41] zoopster: Sorry, I keep ruining your gigs. [02:41] =D [02:41] I have one thing itnet7 [02:42] go for it [02:42] not ubuntu related, but we had another successful balloon launch...got some cool vids of the shuttle taking off from about 60k ft. [02:42] any links for everyone? [02:42] didn't do much telemetry this time around...but maybe I can work with the USF guys and do that [02:42] http://questforstars.com [02:42] LINK received: http://questforstars.com [02:43] doh!, I guess I could have remembered that :-) [02:43] last launch is set for 8 July right now...get out and see it....you won't see another. [02:43] zoopster, one of the guys up front who knew what ham radio was has changed his profile pic on Facebook to match mine (the Natty logo). [02:43] Where's the launch? [02:43] NICE [02:44] zoopster: Are you still interested in that chat about gaming on ubuntu? [02:44] * bluebomber_usf looks up questforstars [02:44] chaynie_ yes I am [02:44] bluebomber_usf: sweet! [02:44] bluebomber_usf: was talking about last space shuttle launch [02:44] zoopster: How would you like to proceed then? I've got a couple people who might interested, but I'll need some lead time to corral them all together. [02:45] set it up...I'll come to you [02:45] Well, everyone is welcome to stick around and chat, but I'm going to issue the endmeeting for mootbot [02:45] Ahhh. Nice pics on the site, though. [02:45] thanks itnet7 [02:45] #endmeeting [02:45] Meeting finished at 01:45. [02:45] zoopster: Which days work best for you? [02:45] chaynie_: where at? Orlando/Winter Haven? [02:46] itnet7: qa positions? when are they to be posted? [02:46] zoopster: Orlando definitely. Probably either maitland / winter park or the ucf area. [02:46] chaynie_: any morning works for me [02:46] zoopster: would a lunch thing work then? [02:46] I'm at E3 Expo 6-8 June [02:46] chaynie_: yea...I can do lunch [02:46] munz: they just added about 8 jobs since last friday [02:46] zoopster: lucky b@$tard. [02:47] cool [02:47] let me get you the rss link [02:47] When will we know more about the travel plans to SELF? [02:47] zoopster: ok. one last thing. [02:47] k, thanx [02:47] munz: http://www.canonical.com/about-canonical/careers [02:47] would canonical consider sponsering some game development? [02:48] sponsoring, even? [02:48] munz: I just pm'd you the long link [02:48] because if that's the case, I might be able to get my boss interested. [02:48] You can add that as one of your feeds if you want [02:48] chaynie_: possibly...depends on what it involves. I'd need to understand the details. We have been fronting $$ for game dev [02:49] cool [02:49] pak33m: were you still thinking about going to SC for SELF? [02:49] zoopster: That's very interesting. I'll talk to my boss and get back to you. [02:49] chaynie_: ok [02:49] lol, how do i see it in irssi? [02:49] munz: ? [02:49] a pm [02:50] oh [02:50] do you have a channel display at the bottom? [02:50] or somewhere [02:50] is there a number by itnet7? [02:50] if there is do /window <#> [02:51] looks like this: (21:45) (munz[+i]) (2:freenode/#ubuntu-us-fl[+ntz]) (Act: 1,3) [02:51] I'm guessing /window 3 [02:52] yes! just got it [02:52] then /window 2 to come back [02:52] cool [02:52] :) thx :) [02:52] you can also do [02:52] alt + 2, and alt + 3 [02:52] to switch [02:52] more quickly [02:52] cool! [02:53] Hooray for keyboard shortcuts! [02:53] you should get some of the other scripts [02:53] ok [02:53] I can e-mail you a copy of mine [02:54] I have a nick list on the right side [02:54] and a whole bunch of other cool stuff working [02:54] cool :) [02:54] bluebomber_usf: the only problem comes in when you have 20 or so channels [02:55] i have used xchat in the past [02:55] but now im set up like you explained [02:55] I'm using xchat currently. [02:55] irssi on server [02:55] I like it much more than Empathy IRC. [02:55] I used to really like xchat, I still do [02:56] and ssh to it run byobu [02:56] but nothing beets screen + irssi [02:56] then everything is there [02:56] and byobu for sure [02:56] So, pak33m has become unresponsive. Anyone else/new thinking about going to SELF? [02:56] nice b/c i am on diff pc's and diff places [02:56] Oh, that mention of byobu reminds me: I think we should do a Jam on Screen/Byobu [02:57] I think I might make a screen cast on it [02:57] That was one of the other things that everyone talked about at UDS [02:58] making short, appealing videos that show off really cool features etc. [02:58] bluebomber_usf: sorry busy with some work fun. doesn't look like i'll be going to self this year. [02:58] :-( [02:59] :'( [02:59] yeah, i was hoping to have more money to do it because really that's the main issue. [02:59] i'm even kidless that weekend [02:59] pak33m: If I am able to go we can all work something out [03:00] I will know soon [03:00] i mighta missed it but do we know who all is going? [03:00] cjohnston bluebomber_usf and me so far [03:00] cjohnston still has to clear it with work [03:01] itnet7: well, keep me posted. [03:01] definitely [03:01] itnet7: think you all would leave on friday? [03:01] Yes. [03:01] Well, Friday is part of the Ubucon, So I was thinking of trying to get there by Thursday Evening [03:01] Err, I can leave on Friday. Hehe. I can't speak for everyone else. [03:02] i'd really like to go. so, lemme see what i don't have this friday. [03:03] itnet7: i would be good to take off that friday but have to work on thursday until 5 [03:03] itnet7: nobody has contacted dj pak33m either [03:03] :( [03:04] :-( [03:04] maybe this time icould get round the show [03:04] How long did it take us to drive last time? [03:04] dj pak33m plays too loudly [03:04] 6 hours maybe [03:04] to SC? [03:04] or 8 [03:04] less? [03:05] am i warm [03:05] I think it was at least 8, looking it up now [03:08] hey guys [03:09] Hey there Chloric_ ! [03:11] chaynie_: foprgot to ask. do we need dj pak33m for the jamal party? [03:13] hows it going itnet?? [03:14] Chloric_: good and you? [03:16] do be do be do [03:18] Keep us updated re SELF. Have a good night. [03:18] well gonna catch a movie with my lady! [03:26] bluebomber: parking at the lakeland campus wouldn't be an issue [03:29] the lakeland campus doesn't have any restrictions on parking, and more than enough space [03:37] pak33m: when's jamal going to be back, anyone know? [03:39] looks like itnet7 has work to do :-P http://status.chrisjohnston.org/ubuntu-oneiric/community-web-developers.html [03:40] MichelleQ: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/956/detail/ [03:50] cjohnston: I know, still trying to think of how I can get that achieved [03:50] bbiab [03:50] I know.. I was showing off the burndown [03:50] enjoy your movie [04:02] 19% done, sweet [04:08] cjohnston: thanks. :-) === nigelb_ is now known as nigelb [05:24] Party? o.O [05:24] MichelleQ: I'll be flying in tomorrow, leaving next tuesday. [05:30] Oh, nvm.. chaynie_ was talking about the long term option :P [13:50] zoopster: ping. [16:26] mhall119: ping [16:31] dorgan: pong [16:32] mhall119: so not sure if you noticed or knew but Sencha Con 2011 is the same time as UDS again this year [16:32] is it in Florida? [16:32] no [16:32] TX [16:32] so, easy choice [16:32] if it was in Florida that would be awsome I would just split my time [16:32] yeah TX it is :) [16:32] :P [16:33] sorry...company is paying for it...and UDS doesnt have a benefit for the company [16:33] my choice is easy because it's made for me, I have to be a UDS [16:33] yeah [16:33] same situation, different outcome [16:33] I would lovwe to go to UDS but that would mean me using vacation time which I am saving so I can visit my Family in NY this october [16:34] also there is a webinar today on migrating from ExtJS3->4 [16:34] cool, but I don't have to worry about that anymore [16:34] oh yeah? [16:35] No more Ext work? [16:36] no past Ext work that I need to support [16:37] Ahhhh [16:37] so just new stuff now? [16:37] hopefully soon [16:37] have you started using 4 at all? [16:37] not yet, but I looked at the changes they were making [16:38] the changes are incredible...performance alone on the grids is awesome.... and they just release 4.0.1 which showed on average a 300% increase in performance over the initial 4.0 grids [16:39] nice [16:39] they also got rid of list view...since gridPanel is much more efficient now [16:39] yeah [16:39] I am having some issues with the charts...but I am just waiting on documentation for that [16:39] I need to put JSON/REST api on read feeder so I can start building the UI with ext [16:42] And I believe thanks to my suggestion...a themeing section should soon appear on the forums under the ExtJS4 community section [16:43] Themeing is very simple with ExtJS4 once you get the hang of compass/saas [17:52] Who's going to SELF? [19:08] Anyone going to SELF? [19:16] what is SELF? [19:17] South East Linux Fest [19:17] In South Carolina [19:17] if it was in Florida I would go [19:17] :D [19:18] dorgan: it's only 9 hours [19:19] ;-P [19:19] :) plus hotel and gas [19:19] Yeah! [20:13] Is SELF this weekend or next? [20:13] jun. 10-12 [20:19] I could probably make it if someone was able to pick me up and take me, which is unlikely. [20:22] amtrak to south carolina is cheap i would imagine. [20:28] amtrak doesn't run through Tallahassee unfortunately. [20:28] I'd love to ride the train though. [20:32] Amtrak costs just under $300 round trip, and adds 36 travel hours onto either side of the conference. [20:32] Man, the train did sound like fun, though. [21:10] "Amtrak made a bureaucratic decision to permanently disband passenger service to the Gulf States region Via the Sunset Limited and shifted funding resources to improve Amtrak passenger service to States along the Northeast Corridor." - https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Tallahassee_%28Amtrak_station%29 [21:10] This saddens me. [21:25] itnet7: when ever you have a chance can you send me the scripts you were talking about please? [21:58] Wow. I went to the Amtrack site and see how much it would cost to go from Jacksonville Fl to Spartanburg SC. Well, forget about the price. I would depart at 10:57pm on saturday and arrive at 4:14am on *Monday*. Come on! This is ridiculous! And, either I would have to make a stop in NC or, get this, Washington DC! [22:07] munz: sure, I will in a moment [22:10] munz: you will have add your own channels and stuff, but I will leave Florida and a couple of others for examples [22:15] maxolasersquad: what about Greyhound? I have hard they have outlets and wifi in some of their buses nowadays [22:16] raubvogel: do you live towards tallahassee? or tampa? [22:16] inet7, Gainesville. [22:17] Wow! [22:17] I wonder how much out of the way it would be for us to go to SC through Gainesville [22:26] I dunno [22:26] itnet7: when we came home from Clemson in 09, we left there at around 5p, and pulled into our driveway at almost 7am. [22:27] mind, we had the kids with us, but we came down 75 [22:27] Ah, thanks MichelleQ ! [22:28] np