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TheErkHolla00:30
Cheri703woo for a water bill $25 less than what is budgeted for!00:33
TheErkWOO!!!00:38
Cheri703:)00:39
* jgould wanders in00:41
Cheri703o/ jgould00:41
jgouldAny bill that is less than you expect is a good thing00:42
jgould\o Cheri70300:42
Cheri703definitely00:42
jgouldI really liked it when our Cell phone bill was $50 rather than $200 one time00:43
TheErkThis one time a prostitute gave me half off for forgetting the toaster.00:50
* jgould blinks00:52
jgouldEh?00:52
* Cheri703 doesn't want to know00:53
* jgould ponders dinner00:54
* jgould turns on NCIS01:02
* Unit193 will NOT watch NCIS01:02
jgouldWhy?01:04
Unit193jgould: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8qgehH3kEQ Title: YouTube - NCIS 2 IDIOTS 1 KEYBOARD01:08
jgouldit's a TV show, Unit193...01:10
Unit193jgould: That's the worst of it...01:10
Unit193But come ON! That's a very basic computer concept....01:11
TheErkmmmmm NCIS01:12
TheErkAs long as Abey is in it they can make up flying jellybeans and i'll be like.. yeah.. i can see that.01:12
jgouldI love Abby01:13
Cheri703I like penelope garcia's character on criminal minds01:13
Cheri703I want her job01:13
jgouldI want a million dollars....01:16
TheErkehh01:18
TheErkI'll take a soda.01:18
Unit193I just had some pop...01:18
TheErkSODA01:19
jgouldGah! there is some green stuff on the radar... you think they would wipe it off every so often01:19
Unit193POP!01:19
* jgould pops Unit193 with a soda01:21
Cheri703soda01:21
TheErkPop is one of those words that sets my teeth on edge.01:21
* Cheri703 is originally from california01:21
Cheri703it's soda01:21
TheErkAlong with mamaw and papaw01:21
Cheri703+1 TheErk01:21
Unit193http://www.popvssoda.com/01:22
Unit193Pop!01:22
Unit193Not soda01:22
Unit193:D01:22
TheErkHell you're just lucky i don't make you speak with a British Accent01:22
Cheri703it's soda01:22
jgouldHmm..I've lost my title bars...01:25
TheErkI closed Pandora and wondered why the music stopped.. me smart.01:25
jgouldHEh01:25
dmcglone1hello01:26
Cheri703hi dmcglone101:26
jgould'Ello dmcglone101:26
dmcglone1anyone watching Idol?01:26
TheErkBlah.. technically i could get another 2 miles in before dark01:26
dmcglone1TheErk: running or Biking?01:27
TheErkWalking.01:27
dmcglone1Oh01:27
TheErkYou do not take into account how out of shape I am.01:27
TheErk:-D01:27
dmcglone1I've been down with my back to 2 days from Biking :-/01:27
Unit193TheErk: Pianobar or pithos?01:27
TheErkPear01:28
jgouldOrange01:29
dmcglone1I'll bite: Apple01:29
TheErkHEATHEN!01:29
TheErkAlright, more excersize.. if i'm not back in an hour call 411.01:30
dmcglone1You mean 91101:30
dmcglone1well don't count on me doing that... LOL01:31
TheErkNo 41101:31
TheErkCall and ask them the number for 911.01:31
dmcglone1LOL01:31
jgouldHeh01:31
jgouldI'll Be  right back... I want my damn title bars...01:32
jgouldok,  fixed01:33
dmcglone1Where did they go?01:34
jgouldNo idea01:34
jgouldI logged in and they were gone01:34
dmcglone1running compiz?01:34
jgouldIt's installed but I don't think it's running01:34
dmcglone1how did you get the title bars back?01:35
jgouldlogged out and loggedback in01:35
dmcglone1sounds like compiz :-/01:35
dmcglone1next time it happens in a console type compiz --replace emerald01:36
Unit193emerald???01:37
dmcglone1why not Unit19301:37
jgouldyemerald?01:37
jgoulder emerald?01:37
dmcglone1emerald is the defalt theme01:37
dmcglone1I figured if he doesn't know whether its running or not, then emerald would be it01:38
Unit193dmcglone1: When is your data from? emerald is old and dead01:38
Unit193(From what I heard in other channels...)01:38
dmcglone1It is Unit193, but it's still the default for compiz :-/01:39
jgouldwhat would that do to my panels?01:41
dmcglone1heck compiz seems to be pretty much dead too01:41
jgouldI played wiht the settings in compiz and then dumped my ~/.config/compiz-1 directory and restored it01:42
dmcglone1jgould if your not getting window titles or panels most likely your theme manager crashed and I'm betting it's compiz01:42
dmcglone1Used to happen to me millions of times01:42
dmcglone1I ditched compiz all together and started using the built in effects01:43
jgouldHow do you ditch compiz01:44
dmcglone1Kill it so it isn't running and uninstall it01:45
dmcglone1or just uninstall it and restart X01:45
jgouldAnd then on the restart of X, I had my 'fast user switching applet' crash01:49
dmcglone1when? just now?01:49
jgouldYep01:50
dmcglone1re-start it and see if it crashes again01:50
jgouldI'm going to01:50
jgouldBrb01:51
Unit193#kubuntu < unhao> anyone knows a xxx passwords channel?01:52
Unit193-_-01:52
jgouldNope01:53
dmcglone1now that's absolutely fucked up. compiz has nothing to do with fast user switching01:54
dmcglone1Unit193: I couldn't find any XXX IRC channels, so looks like your in trouble ;-)01:55
dmcglone1jgould: try rebooting01:55
Unit193dmcglone1: You be messed up...01:55
dmcglone1LOL Unit19301:55
dmcglone1jgould: do you have the default effects enabled in control center?01:56
jgouldI don't see anything for effects in the control center...01:58
dmcglone1jgould: appearance->visual effects tab02:02
dmcglone1I have mutter running02:02
jgouldNo visiual effects tab02:03
jgouldI'm in Ubuntu standard02:03
jgoulder classic02:04
dmcglone1WTF????02:04
dmcglone1what version?02:04
jgouldUbuntu 11.04, Gnome 2.32.102:05
dmcglone1You running Unity?02:06
jgouldClassic02:06
dmcglone1how did you get classic on unity?02:07
jgouldI'm not running Unity...  I have a hate-hate relationship with Unity02:07
dmcglone1I thought classic wouldn't work with 11.0402:07
dmcglone1Maybe I'm mistaken02:08
dmcglone1I hate Unity!02:08
jgouldIt's the non unity interface02:08
dmcglone1Ah02:08
dmcglone1Unity made KDE 1 look like the future!02:09
Unit193Dude at the office is going to try the new Ubuntu (dual w/ 10.04) I told him he will hate it and to look at one of the others02:09
jgouldI've given thought to installing kubuntu.  But I'm lost on how to actually use KDE02:09
dmcglone1using KDE is just like using Gnome with a bunch of half baked shit crammed into it!02:10
Unit193^^ From a person that doesn't liek KDE so it differs from that02:11
jgouldI installed it in a VM in Open Box and I'm not sure I like it02:11
dmcglone1I used kde for at least 13 years, I got sick of the bullshit02:12
TheErkKDE is like jailsex02:12
Unit193I know Derath-Srvr and BiosElement use and like it02:12
dmcglone1I only switched to gnome about 3 or 4 years ago02:12
dmcglone1and I've found that although Gnome lacks a lot, it's at least stable and not half baked02:13
TheErkooo watch me stir up the room.02:13
TheErkUnity fan!02:13
jgouldUnity... Ew02:14
dmcglone1TheErk: you need to be better than that to stir up the pot, try this................02:15
dmcglone1Linux Sux!!!!02:15
TheErkehh.. that would be alie.02:15
TheErkWhile the former is not.02:15
dmcglone1bull, i never lie02:15
dmcglone1;-)02:15
dmcglone1Unix is the future!!02:16
dmcglone1fuck Linux02:16
dmcglone1LOL02:16
Unit193...02:16
jgouldHeh02:16
dmcglone1spit it out Unit19302:16
dmcglone1I'm going to get me some ice cream while y'all fight this one over02:17
* jgould reads paultag's email02:18
TheErkWe didn't start a larg enough fight02:21
TheErk*thinks*02:21
jgouldYou know,  when you remove a metapackage, it should remove everything that was installed by the meta-package02:21
TheErkYour god has a small penis!02:21
TheErkIt should.02:21
dmcglone1"Oh My God!"02:22
dmcglone1haha02:22
jgouldI've never had that happen, TheErk02:22
Unit193jgould: Then you wouldn't be able to uninstall any default programs02:22
jgouldYou should be albe to do that too, but if you take out the meta package, it should take everything that was installed by that package with it02:23
TheErkWhen i watch news of tornados all i can think of is Bill Paxton telling his wives to get in the truck before the aliens attack.02:25
jgouldO.o02:25
dmcglone1TheErk: I think of the wizzard.. LOL02:25
TheErk... empathy does increase the size of the window when you type long messages02:25
TheErkThats horrible.02:25
dmcglone1Yup TheErk!02:26
dmcglone1sux doesn't it02:26
TheErkInstalling xchat now02:27
TheErkThat is quite a bug02:27
dmcglone1xchat doesn't have video chat :-(02:27
TheErkI don't do video chat02:27
TheErkMy entertainment lawyer wont let me02:27
dmcglone1Looks like somebody isn't getting any ;-)02:28
TheErkbrb02:28
dmcglone1LMAO02:28
TheErkHola!02:30
dmcglone1welcome back02:30
TheErkMuch better.02:31
TheErkAnd colourific!02:31
jgouldHeh02:32
canthus13TheErk: xchat? Ew.02:32
* canthus13 lurvs his irssi.02:32
TheErkSimple and effective02:32
dmcglone1canthus13: he mistaked it for porn02:32
dmcglone1;-)02:32
jgouldI like my weechat02:32
TheErkmmm sex chat02:32
jgouldcanthus13: are you ever going to answer my question?02:33
Cheri703ok, guys, really?02:33
canthus13jgould: which question?02:33
dmcglone1jgould: chatting with your wee can sometimes lead to bad results ;-)02:33
* Cheri703 goes away for a few minutes and comes back to penis references and sex chat >.<02:33
dmcglone1should have stayed away Cheri70302:33
dmcglone1LOL02:33
TheErkWell.. we were waiting02:33
jgouldWaht do you do instead of suspending?02:34
canthus13jgould: Ehh.. I'm a bad laptop owner. I leave it running all the time unless I take it somewhere... then I shut it down. boot times aren't that bad.02:34
dmcglone1jgould: I have 2 desktops, a laptop and 2 netbooks running all the time02:35
jgouldI've been shutting mine down when I'm done rather than suspending. The boot times aren't bad02:36
* canthus13 has 3 laptops, a desktop, and 3 serviers running at any given point.02:36
canthus13...servers.02:36
* jgould has 1 laptops and 2 servers02:37
canthus131 laptops....02:37
canthus13:D02:37
dmcglone1I use my desktop as a server, so I wouldn't really consider it a server02:38
jgouldI would like to propse that we move the Columbus UH to a diffrent panera02:38
dmcglone1jgould: your fighting a losing battle, I've already been down that road02:39
Cheri703I mentioned it to BiosElement02:39
jgouldThe panera on High at 11th is a pain in the ass...02:39
dmcglone1+1,000 for jgould02:39
dmcglone1whooo hooo preach it dude02:39
jgouldWe went down there for UH last week and I had no clue that you had to pay to park...  We moved on as I didn't bring any money to dump into a meter02:40
dmcglone1Yuppers02:40
jgouldto me that's a downside.  waht was the reasoning for the 11th and high panera?02:41
Cheri703dmcglone1, jgould, perhaps start a convo on the list...there may be others that want it changed as well02:41
Cheri703easier for osu students I think02:41
dmcglone1Cheri703: only 1 OSU student02:42
Cheri703there may have been more at one point dmcglone102:42
TheErkI am still a group of one.02:43
dmcglone1still not fair for non students02:43
jgouldYou down on campus, Erk?02:43
TheErkNo sir.02:43
jgouldOh02:43
TheErkNorth02:43
Cheri703as I said dmcglone1, I'm in favor of it moving, just saying02:43
dmcglone1I know Cheri703 :-)02:44
jgouldIf the location was selected for access by bus, there are a few other locations that are accessible by bus as well02:44
TheErkWell peeps.. that is it for me02:52
Cheri703night TheErk02:52
jgouldNight TheErk02:53
dmcglone1jgould: I pm'd you02:56
Unit193jgould: I didn't PM you....02:57
jgouldHeh02:57
jgouldand Why not, Unit19303:31
* canthus13 did't, either.03:43
_bbb_whats the deal with unity03:45
_bbb_in my best seinfeld03:45
canthus13_bbb_: It's a stinking pile of manurte.03:47
canthus13...manure.03:47
Cheri703manurte03:47
Unit193Ask TheErk03:47
_bbb_who said it made evangelism more difficult03:48
Cheri703everyone03:48
Unit193Someone should bring it to U-H so I can play with it without pretending I hate my computer...03:48
Unit193;P03:48
Cheri703I put it on another partition :)03:49
Unit193I don't hate my computers that much to install it (And they couldn't handle it I don't think...)03:49
_bbb_i guess im lucky it doesnt like the video card on this thinkpad03:50
_bbb_as long as they keep the classic i guess03:51
Unit193They will get Unity 2D next release (And get Gnome in the repos if not desktop image)03:51
Cheri703Unit193: you can mess with it on mine next time03:52
canthus13Unit193: bleh. :(03:52
_bbb_maybe unity should have been left in the repos03:54
_bbb_haters gonna hate03:54
canthus13Unity should have been left on launchpad. :/03:55
Unit193Cheri703: I was just kidding... (But if you REALLY don't mind...)03:55
Cheri703eh, it's already installed on the other partition03:56
Unit193Anyone mind helping me figure out how to file a manual bug? (More of a what to put in type of thing...)04:07
Unit193...Nevermind. They don't have launchpad or other bug report system (just -devel list)04:13
* Cheri703 is installing kubuntu-desktop...just to check it out04:37
Unit193Cheri703: Sweet!04:40
Cheri703yeah yeah, just testing :)04:40
* Unit193 still hasn't reinstalled...04:41
jgouldI installed kubunu in a VM and let me say I was lost04:47
Cheri703it's....DIFFERENT05:10
Unit193You need to play with it a bit before you dump it...05:12
Cheri703well, it'll probably be like what I do with new releases, mess with it when I'm not doing something urgent, and switch back as needed05:13
Unit193Yeah, I'm not saying you should switch...05:14
Cheri703:/ I dunno if I like this05:16
Cheri703at least not so far05:17
jgouldI think I'm heading to bed.  Night Gang05:20
Cheri703night05:21
Unit193Playing with irssi, not such a good idea...07:44
_bbb_good idea once you get it right =)11:38
dmcglone1Hi all. I sent an E-mail to the list late last night and it never made it to the list.12:58
dmcglone1address typo13:01
canthus13tpyo?13:01
dmcglone1:-)13:02
dmcglone1heh, after fixing the typo, my email still hasn't made it13:40
dmcglone1never mind, I found another typo "ubunut"13:42
dmcglone1my auto completion isn't working for some reason13:42
_bbb_you're an ubunut13:55
dmcglone1_bbb_: yeah :-)13:56
Derath-Srvrhi all14:10
Derath-Srvrdmcglone1, jgould: thanks for those emails :)14:10
dmcglone1No prob14:11
Cheri703told you guys you'd get people on board14:12
Cheri703:)14:12
dmcglone1Cheri703: I haven't seen anyone yet :-/14:12
Derath-Srvr?14:13
dmcglone1Derath-Srvr: thanked us for the e-mail, that doesn't necessarily mean he supports the idea yet ;-)14:13
Cheri703just saying. other people have been thinking the same thing, even if they haven't voiced it publicly14:13
Cheri703when I went the one time, I (luckily) had a place I could park a few blocks away and then hike over14:13
Derath-SrvrI've already said in chan that I supported the idea, even spoke with gilbert about it, my vote is already in...14:14
dmcglone1Derath-Srvr: pulling your leg there :-)14:14
Derath-Srvr;)14:14
Cheri703but I still found it to be an awkward location14:14
dmcglone1Well hopefully this time around things will look better14:15
dmcglone1I tried pleading with Gilbert last year.14:16
Derath-SrvrWell, now there's 3 people recommending a move...14:21
Derath-SrvrI don't know where a good location would be, but I would like it to be close to the 270 area...14:22
dmcglone1jgould and I were trying to find an area somewhere in the middle grounds so it's convient for everyone14:28
Derath-SrvrWell, keep dublin in mind as a reference point to figure out "middle"14:29
dmcglone1true14:30
Cheri703http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2011/05/memo-to-dc-metro-police-its-best-not-to-abuse-people-in-wheelchairs/239422/14:32
thafreakcanthus13: how do you find out how many vouches you have in #shellium? Isn't there a bot command?15:01
canthus13thafreak: Shellium is a bit screwed at the moment. No bots, the server is down.  They're looking for a new colo host right now.15:35
thafreakcanthus13: ah ok...i just remembered I was in the middle of getting an account...had forgotten about it for a while...15:40
deejoefreeshell++15:47
* deejoe subscribes to the annual MetaARPA membership15:48
deejoecanthus13, thafreak, do you have freeshell accounts?15:49
thafreaknope15:49
thafreakwhat's this metaarpa you speakof?15:49
deejoeit's a freeshell sustaining membership level15:49
deejoebut you can get a lifetime membership for a modest one-time membership, too.15:50
deejoethafreak: http://sdf.lonestar.org/index.cgi?access15:50
deejoewhat's nice about them versus a lot of the other shell providers is that they've been around a *long* time, they've got their federal tax-exempt status all squared away and so have the business side of things pretty well nailed down.15:51
deejoethe downside is that they seem a little fusty, lacking the nice pastels and rounded corners of Web 2.0 stuff.15:51
deejoewhich, to be sure, is sort of beside the point when talking about shells :-)15:52
Cheri703\o/ husband starts a cnc training course next week!16:16
Cheri703this is exciting because he's been unemployed since august :)16:19
Derath-SrvrCongrats!16:20
Cheri703thanks :) I'm hoping this translates to a job of some sort (which seems relatively likely, as there are companies in town that help sponsor the course and then often hire the people who complete it)16:21
Derath-SrvrI know what it's like... was SOOO relieved when I got this job...16:35
thafreakis cnc a cisco thing?17:28
canthus13computer numeric control, iirc...17:29
canthus13computer-guided cutting equipment.17:29
thafreakah...not sure what that is....17:29
thafreakOH ok...I have heard of that...17:29
canthus13http://www.cnczone.com/17:31
canthus13Feed the equipment plans from AutoCAD, and it cuts 'em out precisely.17:32
Cheri703yeah, it'll be pretty cool :)17:33
jgouldNo, Cisco is CCNA20:17
canthus13jgould: Cisco has tons of other oddball certs...20:19
canthus13CNC... Cisco Networking Consultant.20:20
* Cheri703 thinks skellat is buying votes ;)21:36
* Unit193 just read that too...21:37
Unit193with putt-putt, Karaoke and wine21:37
Cheri703mmmhm21:41
canthus13whee.. storms.21:50
Unit193canthus13: Lucky... (I have SASL setup and SSL if I restart irssi)21:53
scooter2This may be old news, but http://ohio.ubuntu-us.org/ seems to be down.21:58
Unit193It's known (I don't know why it's not fixed yet)21:58
Unit193Thanks for the info!21:59
scooter2Thanks, no problem. On another topic, where does the NE Ohio reloco meet normally? Is it accessible from the RTA?22:01
Cheri703hey scooter, how are you?22:09
Cheri703*scooter222:09
scooter2Pretty well, still adjusting to being home. How are things going for you?22:10
scooter2Cheri703, I forgot to put that in there.22:13
Cheri703going alright overall, self employed now (on good weeks ;) )22:13
scooter2Awesome! Are you still working in the same field?22:16
Cheri703I'm doing computer repair and such22:31
Cheri703www.TechHeroOhio.com22:31
Cheri703scooter2^22:31
Cheri703sorry, using quassel and it doesn't have channel alerts :/22:32
scooter2np, I've been a bit slow on a new client today...22:38
Cheri703what are you using?22:39
scooter2Love the action hero on the site! I like that the cape clasp has a "TH."22:40
scooter2AndroIRC.22:41
Cheri703ah, ok, I've used androIRC before22:46
Cheri703heh, thanks scooter2, I spent quite a while on that logo22:46
Cheri703scooter2: I prefer andchat22:46
scooter2Cheri703, I'll check it out. Thanks!22:57
Cheri703it is better about alerts and is easier to switch between channels (if you're in multiple)22:58
scooter2Wow, it downloaded really fast. I'll test it out, it has a nice look. Then, got to figure out dinner.23:03
scooter2Cheri703: So far so good with AndChat.23:13
Cheri703glad to hear it scooter2 :)23:17
Cheri703I tried a few programs, and kept coming back to andchat23:17
scooter2Cheri703: notification success!23:18
Cheri703\o/23:18
Cheri703that was so annoying to me in the others, I couldn't get it to notify properly23:19
Cheri703and that androIRC (I think, one of them) I had to press MULTIPLE buttons/menus to get to another channel23:19

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