[00:30] <TheErk> Holla
[00:33] <Cheri703> woo for a water bill $25 less than what is budgeted for!
[00:38] <TheErk> WOO!!!
[00:39] <Cheri703> :)
[00:41]  * jgould wanders in
[00:41] <Cheri703> o/ jgould
[00:42] <jgould> Any bill that is less than you expect is a good thing
[00:42] <jgould> \o Cheri703
[00:42] <Cheri703> definitely
[00:43] <jgould> I really liked it when our Cell phone bill was $50 rather than $200 one time
[00:50] <TheErk> This one time a prostitute gave me half off for forgetting the toaster.
[00:52]  * jgould blinks
[00:52] <jgould> Eh?
[00:53]  * Cheri703 doesn't want to know
[00:54]  * jgould ponders dinner
[01:02]  * jgould turns on NCIS
[01:02]  * Unit193 will NOT watch NCIS
[01:04] <jgould> Why?
[01:08] <Unit193> jgould: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8qgehH3kEQ Title: YouTube - NCIS 2 IDIOTS 1 KEYBOARD
[01:10] <jgould> it's a TV show, Unit193...
[01:10] <Unit193> jgould: That's the worst of it...
[01:11] <Unit193> But come ON! That's a very basic computer concept....
[01:12] <TheErk> mmmmm NCIS
[01:12] <TheErk> As long as Abey is in it they can make up flying jellybeans and i'll be like.. yeah.. i can see that.
[01:13] <jgould> I love Abby
[01:13] <Cheri703> I like penelope garcia's character on criminal minds
[01:13] <Cheri703> I want her job
[01:16] <jgould> I want a million dollars....
[01:18] <TheErk> ehh
[01:18] <TheErk> I'll take a soda.
[01:18] <Unit193> I just had some pop...
[01:19] <TheErk> SODA
[01:19] <jgould> Gah! there is some green stuff on the radar... you think they would wipe it off every so often
[01:19] <Unit193> POP!
[01:21]  * jgould pops Unit193 with a soda
[01:21] <Cheri703> soda
[01:21] <TheErk> Pop is one of those words that sets my teeth on edge.
[01:21]  * Cheri703 is originally from california
[01:21] <Cheri703> it's soda
[01:21] <TheErk> Along with mamaw and papaw
[01:21] <Cheri703> +1 TheErk
[01:22] <Unit193> http://www.popvssoda.com/
[01:22] <Unit193> Pop!
[01:22] <Unit193> Not soda
[01:22] <Unit193> :D
[01:22] <TheErk> Hell you're just lucky i don't make you speak with a British Accent
[01:22] <Cheri703> it's soda
[01:25] <jgould> Hmm..I've lost my title bars...
[01:25] <TheErk> I closed Pandora and wondered why the music stopped.. me smart.
[01:25] <jgould> HEh
[01:26] <dmcglone1> hello
[01:26] <Cheri703> hi dmcglone1
[01:26] <jgould> 'Ello dmcglone1
[01:26] <dmcglone1> anyone watching Idol?
[01:26] <TheErk> Blah.. technically i could get another 2 miles in before dark
[01:27] <dmcglone1> TheErk: running or Biking?
[01:27] <TheErk> Walking.
[01:27] <dmcglone1> Oh
[01:27] <TheErk> You do not take into account how out of shape I am.
[01:27] <TheErk> :-D
[01:27] <dmcglone1> I've been down with my back to 2 days from Biking :-/
[01:27] <Unit193> TheErk: Pianobar or pithos?
[01:28] <TheErk> Pear
[01:29] <jgould> Orange
[01:29] <dmcglone1> I'll bite: Apple
[01:29] <TheErk> HEATHEN!
[01:30] <TheErk> Alright, more excersize.. if i'm not back in an hour call 411.
[01:30] <dmcglone1> You mean 911
[01:31] <dmcglone1> well don't count on me doing that... LOL
[01:31] <TheErk> No 411
[01:31] <TheErk> Call and ask them the number for 911.
[01:31] <dmcglone1> LOL
[01:31] <jgould> Heh
[01:32] <jgould> I'll Be  right back... I want my damn title bars...
[01:33] <jgould> ok,  fixed
[01:34] <dmcglone1> Where did they go?
[01:34] <jgould> No idea
[01:34] <jgould> I logged in and they were gone
[01:34] <dmcglone1> running compiz?
[01:34] <jgould> It's installed but I don't think it's running
[01:35] <dmcglone1> how did you get the title bars back?
[01:35] <jgould> logged out and loggedback in
[01:35] <dmcglone1> sounds like compiz :-/
[01:36] <dmcglone1> next time it happens in a console type compiz --replace emerald
[01:37] <Unit193> emerald???
[01:37] <dmcglone1> why not Unit193
[01:37] <jgould> yemerald?
[01:37] <jgould> er emerald?
[01:37] <dmcglone1> emerald is the defalt theme
[01:38] <dmcglone1> I figured if he doesn't know whether its running or not, then emerald would be it
[01:38] <Unit193> dmcglone1: When is your data from? emerald is old and dead
[01:38] <Unit193> (From what I heard in other channels...)
[01:39] <dmcglone1> It is Unit193, but it's still the default for compiz :-/
[01:41] <jgould> what would that do to my panels?
[01:41] <dmcglone1> heck compiz seems to be pretty much dead too
[01:42] <jgould> I played wiht the settings in compiz and then dumped my ~/.config/compiz-1 directory and restored it
[01:42] <dmcglone1> jgould if your not getting window titles or panels most likely your theme manager crashed and I'm betting it's compiz
[01:42] <dmcglone1> Used to happen to me millions of times
[01:43] <dmcglone1> I ditched compiz all together and started using the built in effects
[01:44] <jgould> How do you ditch compiz
[01:45] <dmcglone1> Kill it so it isn't running and uninstall it
[01:45] <dmcglone1> or just uninstall it and restart X
[01:49] <jgould> And then on the restart of X, I had my 'fast user switching applet' crash
[01:49] <dmcglone1> when? just now?
[01:50] <jgould> Yep
[01:50] <dmcglone1> re-start it and see if it crashes again
[01:50] <jgould> I'm going to
[01:51] <jgould> Brb
[01:52] <Unit193> #kubuntu < unhao> anyone knows a xxx passwords channel?
[01:52] <Unit193> -_-
[01:53] <jgould> Nope
[01:54] <dmcglone1> now that's absolutely fucked up. compiz has nothing to do with fast user switching
[01:55] <dmcglone1> Unit193: I couldn't find any XXX IRC channels, so looks like your in trouble ;-)
[01:55] <dmcglone1> jgould: try rebooting
[01:55] <Unit193> dmcglone1: You be messed up...
[01:55] <dmcglone1> LOL Unit193
[01:56] <dmcglone1> jgould: do you have the default effects enabled in control center?
[01:58] <jgould> I don't see anything for effects in the control center...
[02:02] <dmcglone1> jgould: appearance->visual effects tab
[02:02] <dmcglone1> I have mutter running
[02:03] <jgould> No visiual effects tab
[02:03] <jgould> I'm in Ubuntu standard
[02:04] <jgould> er classic
[02:04] <dmcglone1> WTF????
[02:04] <dmcglone1> what version?
[02:05] <jgould> Ubuntu 11.04, Gnome 2.32.1
[02:06] <dmcglone1> You running Unity?
[02:06] <jgould> Classic
[02:07] <dmcglone1> how did you get classic on unity?
[02:07] <jgould> I'm not running Unity...  I have a hate-hate relationship with Unity
[02:07] <dmcglone1> I thought classic wouldn't work with 11.04
[02:08] <dmcglone1> Maybe I'm mistaken
[02:08] <dmcglone1> I hate Unity!
[02:08] <jgould> It's the non unity interface
[02:08] <dmcglone1> Ah
[02:09] <dmcglone1> Unity made KDE 1 look like the future!
[02:09] <Unit193> Dude at the office is going to try the new Ubuntu (dual w/ 10.04) I told him he will hate it and to look at one of the others
[02:09] <jgould> I've given thought to installing kubuntu.  But I'm lost on how to actually use KDE
[02:10] <dmcglone1> using KDE is just like using Gnome with a bunch of half baked shit crammed into it!
[02:11] <Unit193> ^^ From a person that doesn't liek KDE so it differs from that
[02:11] <jgould> I installed it in a VM in Open Box and I'm not sure I like it
[02:12] <dmcglone1> I used kde for at least 13 years, I got sick of the bullshit
[02:12] <TheErk> KDE is like jailsex
[02:12] <Unit193> I know Derath-Srvr and BiosElement use and like it
[02:12] <dmcglone1> I only switched to gnome about 3 or 4 years ago
[02:13] <dmcglone1> and I've found that although Gnome lacks a lot, it's at least stable and not half baked
[02:13] <TheErk> ooo watch me stir up the room.
[02:13] <TheErk> Unity fan!
[02:14] <jgould> Unity... Ew
[02:15] <dmcglone1> TheErk: you need to be better than that to stir up the pot, try this................
[02:15] <dmcglone1> Linux Sux!!!!
[02:15] <TheErk> ehh.. that would be alie.
[02:15] <TheErk> While the former is not.
[02:15] <dmcglone1> bull, i never lie
[02:15] <dmcglone1> ;-)
[02:16] <dmcglone1> Unix is the future!!
[02:16] <dmcglone1> fuck Linux
[02:16] <dmcglone1> LOL
[02:16] <Unit193> ...
[02:16] <jgould> Heh
[02:16] <dmcglone1> spit it out Unit193
[02:17] <dmcglone1> I'm going to get me some ice cream while y'all fight this one over
[02:18]  * jgould reads paultag's email
[02:21] <TheErk> We didn't start a larg enough fight
[02:21] <TheErk> *thinks*
[02:21] <jgould> You know,  when you remove a metapackage, it should remove everything that was installed by the meta-package
[02:21] <TheErk> Your god has a small penis!
[02:21] <TheErk> It should.
[02:22] <dmcglone1> "Oh My God!"
[02:22] <dmcglone1> haha
[02:22] <jgould> I've never had that happen, TheErk
[02:22] <Unit193> jgould: Then you wouldn't be able to uninstall any default programs
[02:23] <jgould> You should be albe to do that too, but if you take out the meta package, it should take everything that was installed by that package with it
[02:25] <TheErk> When i watch news of tornados all i can think of is Bill Paxton telling his wives to get in the truck before the aliens attack.
[02:25] <jgould> O.o
[02:25] <dmcglone1> TheErk: I think of the wizzard.. LOL
[02:25] <TheErk> ... empathy does increase the size of the window when you type long messages
[02:25] <TheErk> Thats horrible.
[02:26] <dmcglone1> Yup TheErk!
[02:26] <dmcglone1> sux doesn't it
[02:27] <TheErk> Installing xchat now
[02:27] <TheErk> That is quite a bug
[02:27] <dmcglone1> xchat doesn't have video chat :-(
[02:27] <TheErk> I don't do video chat
[02:27] <TheErk> My entertainment lawyer wont let me
[02:28] <dmcglone1> Looks like somebody isn't getting any ;-)
[02:28] <TheErk> brb
[02:28] <dmcglone1> LMAO
[02:30] <TheErk> Hola!
[02:30] <dmcglone1> welcome back
[02:31] <TheErk> Much better.
[02:31] <TheErk> And colourific!
[02:32] <jgould> Heh
[02:32] <canthus13> TheErk: xchat? Ew.
[02:32]  * canthus13 lurvs his irssi.
[02:32] <TheErk> Simple and effective
[02:32] <dmcglone1> canthus13: he mistaked it for porn
[02:32] <dmcglone1> ;-)
[02:32] <jgould> I like my weechat
[02:32] <TheErk> mmm sex chat
[02:33] <jgould> canthus13: are you ever going to answer my question?
[02:33] <Cheri703> ok, guys, really?
[02:33] <canthus13> jgould: which question?
[02:33] <dmcglone1> jgould: chatting with your wee can sometimes lead to bad results ;-)
[02:33]  * Cheri703 goes away for a few minutes and comes back to penis references and sex chat >.<
[02:33] <dmcglone1> should have stayed away Cheri703
[02:33] <dmcglone1> LOL
[02:33] <TheErk> Well.. we were waiting
[02:34] <jgould> Waht do you do instead of suspending?
[02:34] <canthus13> jgould: Ehh.. I'm a bad laptop owner. I leave it running all the time unless I take it somewhere... then I shut it down. boot times aren't that bad.
[02:35] <dmcglone1> jgould: I have 2 desktops, a laptop and 2 netbooks running all the time
[02:36] <jgould> I've been shutting mine down when I'm done rather than suspending. The boot times aren't bad
[02:36]  * canthus13 has 3 laptops, a desktop, and 3 serviers running at any given point.
[02:36] <canthus13> ...servers.
[02:37]  * jgould has 1 laptops and 2 servers
[02:37] <canthus13> 1 laptops....
[02:37] <canthus13> :D
[02:38] <dmcglone1> I use my desktop as a server, so I wouldn't really consider it a server
[02:38] <jgould> I would like to propse that we move the Columbus UH to a diffrent panera
[02:39] <dmcglone1> jgould: your fighting a losing battle, I've already been down that road
[02:39] <Cheri703> I mentioned it to BiosElement
[02:39] <jgould> The panera on High at 11th is a pain in the ass...
[02:39] <dmcglone1> +1,000 for jgould
[02:39] <dmcglone1> whooo hooo preach it dude
[02:40] <jgould> We went down there for UH last week and I had no clue that you had to pay to park...  We moved on as I didn't bring any money to dump into a meter
[02:40] <dmcglone1> Yuppers
[02:41] <jgould> to me that's a downside.  waht was the reasoning for the 11th and high panera?
[02:41] <Cheri703> dmcglone1, jgould, perhaps start a convo on the list...there may be others that want it changed as well
[02:41] <Cheri703> easier for osu students I think
[02:42] <dmcglone1> Cheri703: only 1 OSU student
[02:42] <Cheri703> there may have been more at one point dmcglone1
[02:43] <TheErk> I am still a group of one.
[02:43] <dmcglone1> still not fair for non students
[02:43] <jgould> You down on campus, Erk?
[02:43] <TheErk> No sir.
[02:43] <jgould> Oh
[02:43] <TheErk> North
[02:43] <Cheri703> as I said dmcglone1, I'm in favor of it moving, just saying
[02:44] <dmcglone1> I know Cheri703 :-)
[02:44] <jgould> If the location was selected for access by bus, there are a few other locations that are accessible by bus as well
[02:52] <TheErk> Well peeps.. that is it for me
[02:52] <Cheri703> night TheErk
[02:53] <jgould> Night TheErk
[02:56] <dmcglone1> jgould: I pm'd you
[02:57] <Unit193> jgould: I didn't PM you....
[02:57] <jgould> Heh
[03:31] <jgould> and Why not, Unit193
[03:43]  * canthus13 did't, either.
[03:45] <_bbb_> whats the deal with unity
[03:45] <_bbb_> in my best seinfeld
[03:47] <canthus13> _bbb_: It's a stinking pile of manurte.
[03:47] <canthus13> ...manure.
[03:47] <Cheri703> manurte
[03:47] <Unit193> Ask TheErk
[03:48] <_bbb_> who said it made evangelism more difficult
[03:48] <Cheri703> everyone
[03:48] <Unit193> Someone should bring it to U-H so I can play with it without pretending I hate my computer...
[03:48] <Unit193> ;P
[03:49] <Cheri703> I put it on another partition :)
[03:49] <Unit193> I don't hate my computers that much to install it (And they couldn't handle it I don't think...)
[03:50] <_bbb_> i guess im lucky it doesnt like the video card on this thinkpad
[03:51] <_bbb_> as long as they keep the classic i guess
[03:51] <Unit193> They will get Unity 2D next release (And get Gnome in the repos if not desktop image)
[03:52] <Cheri703> Unit193: you can mess with it on mine next time
[03:52] <canthus13> Unit193: bleh. :(
[03:54] <_bbb_> maybe unity should have been left in the repos
[03:54] <_bbb_> haters gonna hate
[03:55] <canthus13> Unity should have been left on launchpad. :/
[03:55] <Unit193> Cheri703: I was just kidding... (But if you REALLY don't mind...)
[03:56] <Cheri703> eh, it's already installed on the other partition
[04:07] <Unit193> Anyone mind helping me figure out how to file a manual bug? (More of a what to put in type of thing...)
[04:13] <Unit193> ...Nevermind. They don't have launchpad or other bug report system (just -devel list)
[04:37]  * Cheri703 is installing kubuntu-desktop...just to check it out
[04:40] <Unit193> Cheri703: Sweet!
[04:40] <Cheri703> yeah yeah, just testing :)
[04:41]  * Unit193 still hasn't reinstalled...
[04:47] <jgould> I installed kubunu in a VM and let me say I was lost
[05:10] <Cheri703> it's....DIFFERENT
[05:12] <Unit193> You need to play with it a bit before you dump it...
[05:13] <Cheri703> well, it'll probably be like what I do with new releases, mess with it when I'm not doing something urgent, and switch back as needed
[05:14] <Unit193> Yeah, I'm not saying you should switch...
[05:16] <Cheri703> :/ I dunno if I like this
[05:17] <Cheri703> at least not so far
[05:20] <jgould> I think I'm heading to bed.  Night Gang
[05:21] <Cheri703> night
[07:44] <Unit193> Playing with irssi, not such a good idea...
[11:38] <_bbb_> good idea once you get it right =)
[12:58] <dmcglone1> Hi all. I sent an E-mail to the list late last night and it never made it to the list.
[13:01] <dmcglone1> address typo
[13:01] <canthus13> tpyo?
[13:02] <dmcglone1> :-)
[13:40] <dmcglone1> heh, after fixing the typo, my email still hasn't made it
[13:42] <dmcglone1> never mind, I found another typo "ubunut"
[13:42] <dmcglone1> my auto completion isn't working for some reason
[13:55] <_bbb_> you're an ubunut
[13:56] <dmcglone1> _bbb_: yeah :-)
[14:10] <Derath-Srvr> hi all
[14:10] <Derath-Srvr> dmcglone1, jgould: thanks for those emails :)
[14:11] <dmcglone1> No prob
[14:12] <Cheri703> told you guys you'd get people on board
[14:12] <Cheri703> :)
[14:12] <dmcglone1> Cheri703: I haven't seen anyone yet :-/
[14:13] <Derath-Srvr> ?
[14:13] <dmcglone1> Derath-Srvr: thanked us for the e-mail, that doesn't necessarily mean he supports the idea yet ;-)
[14:13] <Cheri703> just saying. other people have been thinking the same thing, even if they haven't voiced it publicly
[14:13] <Cheri703> when I went the one time, I (luckily) had a place I could park a few blocks away and then hike over
[14:14] <Derath-Srvr> I've already said in chan that I supported the idea, even spoke with gilbert about it, my vote is already in...
[14:14] <dmcglone1> Derath-Srvr: pulling your leg there :-)
[14:14] <Derath-Srvr> ;)
[14:14] <Cheri703> but I still found it to be an awkward location
[14:15] <dmcglone1> Well hopefully this time around things will look better
[14:16] <dmcglone1> I tried pleading with Gilbert last year.
[14:21] <Derath-Srvr> Well, now there's 3 people recommending a move...
[14:22] <Derath-Srvr> I don't know where a good location would be, but I would like it to be close to the 270 area...
[14:28] <dmcglone1> jgould and I were trying to find an area somewhere in the middle grounds so it's convient for everyone
[14:29] <Derath-Srvr> Well, keep dublin in mind as a reference point to figure out "middle"
[14:30] <dmcglone1> true
[14:32] <Cheri703> http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2011/05/memo-to-dc-metro-police-its-best-not-to-abuse-people-in-wheelchairs/239422/
[15:01] <thafreak> canthus13: how do you find out how many vouches you have in #shellium? Isn't there a bot command?
[15:35] <canthus13> thafreak: Shellium is a bit screwed at the moment. No bots, the server is down.  They're looking for a new colo host right now.
[15:40] <thafreak> canthus13: ah ok...i just remembered I was in the middle of getting an account...had forgotten about it for a while...
[15:47] <deejoe> freeshell++
[15:48]  * deejoe subscribes to the annual MetaARPA membership
[15:49] <deejoe> canthus13, thafreak, do you have freeshell accounts?
[15:49] <thafreak> nope
[15:49] <thafreak> what's this metaarpa you speakof?
[15:49] <deejoe> it's a freeshell sustaining membership level
[15:50] <deejoe> but you can get a lifetime membership for a modest one-time membership, too.
[15:50] <deejoe> thafreak: http://sdf.lonestar.org/index.cgi?access
[15:51] <deejoe> what's nice about them versus a lot of the other shell providers is that they've been around a *long* time, they've got their federal tax-exempt status all squared away and so have the business side of things pretty well nailed down.
[15:51] <deejoe> the downside is that they seem a little fusty, lacking the nice pastels and rounded corners of Web 2.0 stuff.
[15:52] <deejoe> which, to be sure, is sort of beside the point when talking about shells :-)
[16:16] <Cheri703> \o/ husband starts a cnc training course next week!
[16:19] <Cheri703> this is exciting because he's been unemployed since august :)
[16:20] <Derath-Srvr> Congrats!
[16:21] <Cheri703> thanks :) I'm hoping this translates to a job of some sort (which seems relatively likely, as there are companies in town that help sponsor the course and then often hire the people who complete it)
[16:35] <Derath-Srvr> I know what it's like... was SOOO relieved when I got this job...
[17:28] <thafreak> is cnc a cisco thing?
[17:29] <canthus13> computer numeric control, iirc...
[17:29] <canthus13> computer-guided cutting equipment.
[17:29] <thafreak> ah...not sure what that is....
[17:29] <thafreak> OH ok...I have heard of that...
[17:31] <canthus13> http://www.cnczone.com/
[17:32] <canthus13> Feed the equipment plans from AutoCAD, and it cuts 'em out precisely.
[17:33] <Cheri703> yeah, it'll be pretty cool :)
[20:17] <jgould> No, Cisco is CCNA
[20:19] <canthus13> jgould: Cisco has tons of other oddball certs...
[20:20] <canthus13> CNC... Cisco Networking Consultant.
[21:36]  * Cheri703 thinks skellat is buying votes ;)
[21:37]  * Unit193 just read that too...
[21:37] <Unit193> with putt-putt, Karaoke and wine
[21:41] <Cheri703> mmmhm
[21:50] <canthus13> whee.. storms.
[21:53] <Unit193> canthus13: Lucky... (I have SASL setup and SSL if I restart irssi)
[21:58] <scooter2> This may be old news, but http://ohio.ubuntu-us.org/ seems to be down.
[21:58] <Unit193> It's known (I don't know why it's not fixed yet)
[21:59] <Unit193> Thanks for the info!
[22:01] <scooter2> Thanks, no problem. On another topic, where does the NE Ohio reloco meet normally? Is it accessible from the RTA?
[22:09] <Cheri703> hey scooter, how are you?
[22:09] <Cheri703> *scooter2
[22:10] <scooter2> Pretty well, still adjusting to being home. How are things going for you?
[22:13] <scooter2> Cheri703, I forgot to put that in there.
[22:13] <Cheri703> going alright overall, self employed now (on good weeks ;) )
[22:16] <scooter2> Awesome! Are you still working in the same field?
[22:31] <Cheri703> I'm doing computer repair and such
[22:31] <Cheri703> www.TechHeroOhio.com
[22:31] <Cheri703> scooter2^
[22:32] <Cheri703> sorry, using quassel and it doesn't have channel alerts :/
[22:38] <scooter2> np, I've been a bit slow on a new client today...
[22:39] <Cheri703> what are you using?
[22:40] <scooter2> Love the action hero on the site! I like that the cape clasp has a "TH."
[22:41] <scooter2> AndroIRC.
[22:46] <Cheri703> ah, ok, I've used androIRC before
[22:46] <Cheri703> heh, thanks scooter2, I spent quite a while on that logo
[22:46] <Cheri703> scooter2: I prefer andchat
[22:57] <scooter2> Cheri703, I'll check it out. Thanks!
[22:58] <Cheri703> it is better about alerts and is easier to switch between channels (if you're in multiple)
[23:03] <scooter2> Wow, it downloaded really fast. I'll test it out, it has a nice look. Then, got to figure out dinner.
[23:13] <scooter2> Cheri703: So far so good with AndChat.
[23:17] <Cheri703> glad to hear it scooter2 :)
[23:17] <Cheri703> I tried a few programs, and kept coming back to andchat
[23:18] <scooter2> Cheri703: notification success!
[23:18] <Cheri703> \o/
[23:19] <Cheri703> that was so annoying to me in the others, I couldn't get it to notify properly
[23:19] <Cheri703> and that androIRC (I think, one of them) I had to press MULTIPLE buttons/menus to get to another channel