[00:30] Holla [00:33] woo for a water bill $25 less than what is budgeted for! [00:38] WOO!!! [00:39] :) [00:41] * jgould wanders in [00:41] o/ jgould [00:42] Any bill that is less than you expect is a good thing [00:42] \o Cheri703 [00:42] definitely [00:43] I really liked it when our Cell phone bill was $50 rather than $200 one time [00:50] This one time a prostitute gave me half off for forgetting the toaster. [00:52] * jgould blinks [00:52] Eh? [00:53] * Cheri703 doesn't want to know [00:54] * jgould ponders dinner [01:02] * jgould turns on NCIS [01:02] * Unit193 will NOT watch NCIS [01:04] Why? [01:08] jgould: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8qgehH3kEQ Title: YouTube - NCIS 2 IDIOTS 1 KEYBOARD [01:10] it's a TV show, Unit193... [01:10] jgould: That's the worst of it... [01:11] But come ON! That's a very basic computer concept.... [01:12] mmmmm NCIS [01:12] As long as Abey is in it they can make up flying jellybeans and i'll be like.. yeah.. i can see that. [01:13] I love Abby [01:13] I like penelope garcia's character on criminal minds [01:13] I want her job [01:16] I want a million dollars.... [01:18] ehh [01:18] I'll take a soda. [01:18] I just had some pop... [01:19] SODA [01:19] Gah! there is some green stuff on the radar... you think they would wipe it off every so often [01:19] POP! [01:21] * jgould pops Unit193 with a soda [01:21] soda [01:21] Pop is one of those words that sets my teeth on edge. [01:21] * Cheri703 is originally from california [01:21] it's soda [01:21] Along with mamaw and papaw [01:21] +1 TheErk [01:22] http://www.popvssoda.com/ [01:22] Pop! [01:22] Not soda [01:22] :D [01:22] Hell you're just lucky i don't make you speak with a British Accent [01:22] it's soda [01:25] Hmm..I've lost my title bars... [01:25] I closed Pandora and wondered why the music stopped.. me smart. [01:25] HEh [01:26] hello [01:26] hi dmcglone1 [01:26] 'Ello dmcglone1 [01:26] anyone watching Idol? [01:26] Blah.. technically i could get another 2 miles in before dark [01:27] TheErk: running or Biking? [01:27] Walking. [01:27] Oh [01:27] You do not take into account how out of shape I am. [01:27] :-D [01:27] I've been down with my back to 2 days from Biking :-/ [01:27] TheErk: Pianobar or pithos? [01:28] Pear [01:29] Orange [01:29] I'll bite: Apple [01:29] HEATHEN! [01:30] Alright, more excersize.. if i'm not back in an hour call 411. [01:30] You mean 911 [01:31] well don't count on me doing that... LOL [01:31] No 411 [01:31] Call and ask them the number for 911. [01:31] LOL [01:31] Heh [01:32] I'll Be right back... I want my damn title bars... [01:33] ok, fixed [01:34] Where did they go? [01:34] No idea [01:34] I logged in and they were gone [01:34] running compiz? [01:34] It's installed but I don't think it's running [01:35] how did you get the title bars back? [01:35] logged out and loggedback in [01:35] sounds like compiz :-/ [01:36] next time it happens in a console type compiz --replace emerald [01:37] emerald??? [01:37] why not Unit193 [01:37] yemerald? [01:37] er emerald? [01:37] emerald is the defalt theme [01:38] I figured if he doesn't know whether its running or not, then emerald would be it [01:38] dmcglone1: When is your data from? emerald is old and dead [01:38] (From what I heard in other channels...) [01:39] It is Unit193, but it's still the default for compiz :-/ [01:41] what would that do to my panels? [01:41] heck compiz seems to be pretty much dead too [01:42] I played wiht the settings in compiz and then dumped my ~/.config/compiz-1 directory and restored it [01:42] jgould if your not getting window titles or panels most likely your theme manager crashed and I'm betting it's compiz [01:42] Used to happen to me millions of times [01:43] I ditched compiz all together and started using the built in effects [01:44] How do you ditch compiz [01:45] Kill it so it isn't running and uninstall it [01:45] or just uninstall it and restart X [01:49] And then on the restart of X, I had my 'fast user switching applet' crash [01:49] when? just now? [01:50] Yep [01:50] re-start it and see if it crashes again [01:50] I'm going to [01:51] Brb [01:52] #kubuntu < unhao> anyone knows a xxx passwords channel? [01:52] -_- [01:53] Nope [01:54] now that's absolutely fucked up. compiz has nothing to do with fast user switching [01:55] Unit193: I couldn't find any XXX IRC channels, so looks like your in trouble ;-) [01:55] jgould: try rebooting [01:55] dmcglone1: You be messed up... [01:55] LOL Unit193 [01:56] jgould: do you have the default effects enabled in control center? [01:58] I don't see anything for effects in the control center... [02:02] jgould: appearance->visual effects tab [02:02] I have mutter running [02:03] No visiual effects tab [02:03] I'm in Ubuntu standard [02:04] er classic [02:04] WTF???? [02:04] what version? [02:05] Ubuntu 11.04, Gnome 2.32.1 [02:06] You running Unity? [02:06] Classic [02:07] how did you get classic on unity? [02:07] I'm not running Unity... I have a hate-hate relationship with Unity [02:07] I thought classic wouldn't work with 11.04 [02:08] Maybe I'm mistaken [02:08] I hate Unity! [02:08] It's the non unity interface [02:08] Ah [02:09] Unity made KDE 1 look like the future! [02:09] Dude at the office is going to try the new Ubuntu (dual w/ 10.04) I told him he will hate it and to look at one of the others [02:09] I've given thought to installing kubuntu. But I'm lost on how to actually use KDE [02:10] using KDE is just like using Gnome with a bunch of half baked shit crammed into it! [02:11] ^^ From a person that doesn't liek KDE so it differs from that [02:11] I installed it in a VM in Open Box and I'm not sure I like it [02:12] I used kde for at least 13 years, I got sick of the bullshit [02:12] KDE is like jailsex [02:12] I know Derath-Srvr and BiosElement use and like it [02:12] I only switched to gnome about 3 or 4 years ago [02:13] and I've found that although Gnome lacks a lot, it's at least stable and not half baked [02:13] ooo watch me stir up the room. [02:13] Unity fan! [02:14] Unity... Ew [02:15] TheErk: you need to be better than that to stir up the pot, try this................ [02:15] Linux Sux!!!! [02:15] ehh.. that would be alie. [02:15] While the former is not. [02:15] bull, i never lie [02:15] ;-) [02:16] Unix is the future!! [02:16] fuck Linux [02:16] LOL [02:16] ... [02:16] Heh [02:16] spit it out Unit193 [02:17] I'm going to get me some ice cream while y'all fight this one over [02:18] * jgould reads paultag's email [02:21] We didn't start a larg enough fight [02:21] *thinks* [02:21] You know, when you remove a metapackage, it should remove everything that was installed by the meta-package [02:21] Your god has a small penis! [02:21] It should. [02:22] "Oh My God!" [02:22] haha [02:22] I've never had that happen, TheErk [02:22] jgould: Then you wouldn't be able to uninstall any default programs [02:23] You should be albe to do that too, but if you take out the meta package, it should take everything that was installed by that package with it [02:25] When i watch news of tornados all i can think of is Bill Paxton telling his wives to get in the truck before the aliens attack. [02:25] O.o [02:25] TheErk: I think of the wizzard.. LOL [02:25] ... empathy does increase the size of the window when you type long messages [02:25] Thats horrible. [02:26] Yup TheErk! [02:26] sux doesn't it [02:27] Installing xchat now [02:27] That is quite a bug [02:27] xchat doesn't have video chat :-( [02:27] I don't do video chat [02:27] My entertainment lawyer wont let me [02:28] Looks like somebody isn't getting any ;-) [02:28] brb [02:28] LMAO [02:30] Hola! [02:30] welcome back [02:31] Much better. [02:31] And colourific! [02:32] Heh [02:32] TheErk: xchat? Ew. [02:32] * canthus13 lurvs his irssi. [02:32] Simple and effective [02:32] canthus13: he mistaked it for porn [02:32] ;-) [02:32] I like my weechat [02:32] mmm sex chat [02:33] canthus13: are you ever going to answer my question? [02:33] ok, guys, really? [02:33] jgould: which question? [02:33] jgould: chatting with your wee can sometimes lead to bad results ;-) [02:33] * Cheri703 goes away for a few minutes and comes back to penis references and sex chat >.< [02:33] should have stayed away Cheri703 [02:33] LOL [02:33] Well.. we were waiting [02:34] Waht do you do instead of suspending? [02:34] jgould: Ehh.. I'm a bad laptop owner. I leave it running all the time unless I take it somewhere... then I shut it down. boot times aren't that bad. [02:35] jgould: I have 2 desktops, a laptop and 2 netbooks running all the time [02:36] I've been shutting mine down when I'm done rather than suspending. The boot times aren't bad [02:36] * canthus13 has 3 laptops, a desktop, and 3 serviers running at any given point. [02:36] ...servers. [02:37] * jgould has 1 laptops and 2 servers [02:37] 1 laptops.... [02:37] :D [02:38] I use my desktop as a server, so I wouldn't really consider it a server [02:38] I would like to propse that we move the Columbus UH to a diffrent panera [02:39] jgould: your fighting a losing battle, I've already been down that road [02:39] I mentioned it to BiosElement [02:39] The panera on High at 11th is a pain in the ass... [02:39] +1,000 for jgould [02:39] whooo hooo preach it dude [02:40] We went down there for UH last week and I had no clue that you had to pay to park... We moved on as I didn't bring any money to dump into a meter [02:40] Yuppers [02:41] to me that's a downside. waht was the reasoning for the 11th and high panera? [02:41] dmcglone1, jgould, perhaps start a convo on the list...there may be others that want it changed as well [02:41] easier for osu students I think [02:42] Cheri703: only 1 OSU student [02:42] there may have been more at one point dmcglone1 [02:43] I am still a group of one. [02:43] still not fair for non students [02:43] You down on campus, Erk? [02:43] No sir. [02:43] Oh [02:43] North [02:43] as I said dmcglone1, I'm in favor of it moving, just saying [02:44] I know Cheri703 :-) [02:44] If the location was selected for access by bus, there are a few other locations that are accessible by bus as well [02:52] Well peeps.. that is it for me [02:52] night TheErk [02:53] Night TheErk [02:56] jgould: I pm'd you [02:57] jgould: I didn't PM you.... [02:57] Heh [03:31] and Why not, Unit193 [03:43] * canthus13 did't, either. [03:45] <_bbb_> whats the deal with unity [03:45] <_bbb_> in my best seinfeld [03:47] _bbb_: It's a stinking pile of manurte. [03:47] ...manure. [03:47] manurte [03:47] Ask TheErk [03:48] <_bbb_> who said it made evangelism more difficult [03:48] everyone [03:48] Someone should bring it to U-H so I can play with it without pretending I hate my computer... [03:48] ;P [03:49] I put it on another partition :) [03:49] I don't hate my computers that much to install it (And they couldn't handle it I don't think...) [03:50] <_bbb_> i guess im lucky it doesnt like the video card on this thinkpad [03:51] <_bbb_> as long as they keep the classic i guess [03:51] They will get Unity 2D next release (And get Gnome in the repos if not desktop image) [03:52] Unit193: you can mess with it on mine next time [03:52] Unit193: bleh. :( [03:54] <_bbb_> maybe unity should have been left in the repos [03:54] <_bbb_> haters gonna hate [03:55] Unity should have been left on launchpad. :/ [03:55] Cheri703: I was just kidding... (But if you REALLY don't mind...) [03:56] eh, it's already installed on the other partition [04:07] Anyone mind helping me figure out how to file a manual bug? (More of a what to put in type of thing...) [04:13] ...Nevermind. They don't have launchpad or other bug report system (just -devel list) [04:37] * Cheri703 is installing kubuntu-desktop...just to check it out [04:40] Cheri703: Sweet! [04:40] yeah yeah, just testing :) [04:41] * Unit193 still hasn't reinstalled... [04:47] I installed kubunu in a VM and let me say I was lost [05:10] it's....DIFFERENT [05:12] You need to play with it a bit before you dump it... [05:13] well, it'll probably be like what I do with new releases, mess with it when I'm not doing something urgent, and switch back as needed [05:14] Yeah, I'm not saying you should switch... [05:16] :/ I dunno if I like this [05:17] at least not so far [05:20] I think I'm heading to bed. Night Gang [05:21] night [07:44] Playing with irssi, not such a good idea... [11:38] <_bbb_> good idea once you get it right =) [12:58] Hi all. I sent an E-mail to the list late last night and it never made it to the list. [13:01] address typo [13:01] tpyo? [13:02] :-) [13:40] heh, after fixing the typo, my email still hasn't made it [13:42] never mind, I found another typo "ubunut" [13:42] my auto completion isn't working for some reason [13:55] <_bbb_> you're an ubunut [13:56] _bbb_: yeah :-) [14:10] hi all [14:10] dmcglone1, jgould: thanks for those emails :) [14:11] No prob [14:12] told you guys you'd get people on board [14:12] :) [14:12] Cheri703: I haven't seen anyone yet :-/ [14:13] ? [14:13] Derath-Srvr: thanked us for the e-mail, that doesn't necessarily mean he supports the idea yet ;-) [14:13] just saying. other people have been thinking the same thing, even if they haven't voiced it publicly [14:13] when I went the one time, I (luckily) had a place I could park a few blocks away and then hike over [14:14] I've already said in chan that I supported the idea, even spoke with gilbert about it, my vote is already in... [14:14] Derath-Srvr: pulling your leg there :-) [14:14] ;) [14:14] but I still found it to be an awkward location [14:15] Well hopefully this time around things will look better [14:16] I tried pleading with Gilbert last year. [14:21] Well, now there's 3 people recommending a move... [14:22] I don't know where a good location would be, but I would like it to be close to the 270 area... [14:28] jgould and I were trying to find an area somewhere in the middle grounds so it's convient for everyone [14:29] Well, keep dublin in mind as a reference point to figure out "middle" [14:30] true [14:32] http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2011/05/memo-to-dc-metro-police-its-best-not-to-abuse-people-in-wheelchairs/239422/ [15:01] canthus13: how do you find out how many vouches you have in #shellium? Isn't there a bot command? [15:35] thafreak: Shellium is a bit screwed at the moment. No bots, the server is down. They're looking for a new colo host right now. [15:40] canthus13: ah ok...i just remembered I was in the middle of getting an account...had forgotten about it for a while... [15:47] freeshell++ [15:48] * deejoe subscribes to the annual MetaARPA membership [15:49] canthus13, thafreak, do you have freeshell accounts? [15:49] nope [15:49] what's this metaarpa you speakof? [15:49] it's a freeshell sustaining membership level [15:50] but you can get a lifetime membership for a modest one-time membership, too. [15:50] thafreak: http://sdf.lonestar.org/index.cgi?access [15:51] what's nice about them versus a lot of the other shell providers is that they've been around a *long* time, they've got their federal tax-exempt status all squared away and so have the business side of things pretty well nailed down. [15:51] the downside is that they seem a little fusty, lacking the nice pastels and rounded corners of Web 2.0 stuff. [15:52] which, to be sure, is sort of beside the point when talking about shells :-) [16:16] \o/ husband starts a cnc training course next week! [16:19] this is exciting because he's been unemployed since august :) [16:20] Congrats! [16:21] thanks :) I'm hoping this translates to a job of some sort (which seems relatively likely, as there are companies in town that help sponsor the course and then often hire the people who complete it) [16:35] I know what it's like... was SOOO relieved when I got this job... [17:28] is cnc a cisco thing? [17:29] computer numeric control, iirc... [17:29] computer-guided cutting equipment. [17:29] ah...not sure what that is.... [17:29] OH ok...I have heard of that... [17:31] http://www.cnczone.com/ [17:32] Feed the equipment plans from AutoCAD, and it cuts 'em out precisely. [17:33] yeah, it'll be pretty cool :) [20:17] No, Cisco is CCNA [20:19] jgould: Cisco has tons of other oddball certs... [20:20] CNC... Cisco Networking Consultant. [21:36] * Cheri703 thinks skellat is buying votes ;) [21:37] * Unit193 just read that too... [21:37] with putt-putt, Karaoke and wine [21:41] mmmhm [21:50] whee.. storms. [21:53] canthus13: Lucky... (I have SASL setup and SSL if I restart irssi) [21:58] This may be old news, but http://ohio.ubuntu-us.org/ seems to be down. [21:58] It's known (I don't know why it's not fixed yet) [21:59] Thanks for the info! [22:01] Thanks, no problem. On another topic, where does the NE Ohio reloco meet normally? Is it accessible from the RTA? [22:09] hey scooter, how are you? [22:09] *scooter2 [22:10] Pretty well, still adjusting to being home. How are things going for you? [22:13] Cheri703, I forgot to put that in there. [22:13] going alright overall, self employed now (on good weeks ;) ) [22:16] Awesome! Are you still working in the same field? [22:31] I'm doing computer repair and such [22:31] www.TechHeroOhio.com [22:31] scooter2^ [22:32] sorry, using quassel and it doesn't have channel alerts :/ [22:38] np, I've been a bit slow on a new client today... [22:39] what are you using? [22:40] Love the action hero on the site! I like that the cape clasp has a "TH." [22:41] AndroIRC. [22:46] ah, ok, I've used androIRC before [22:46] heh, thanks scooter2, I spent quite a while on that logo [22:46] scooter2: I prefer andchat [22:57] Cheri703, I'll check it out. Thanks! [22:58] it is better about alerts and is easier to switch between channels (if you're in multiple) [23:03] Wow, it downloaded really fast. I'll test it out, it has a nice look. Then, got to figure out dinner. [23:13] Cheri703: So far so good with AndChat. [23:17] glad to hear it scooter2 :) [23:17] I tried a few programs, and kept coming back to andchat [23:18] Cheri703: notification success! [23:18] \o/ [23:19] that was so annoying to me in the others, I couldn't get it to notify properly [23:19] and that androIRC (I think, one of them) I had to press MULTIPLE buttons/menus to get to another channel