| vychune | o/ | 01:42 |
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| orangeninja | hello vychune | 01:44 |
| vychune | how you doing | 01:45 |
| orangeninja | good, how are you? | 01:46 |
| vychune | good | 01:47 |
| vychune | got a surprise upon logging itno midsouthmakers's chan | 01:48 |
| vychune | <CTDummy> vychune: Message from Svpernova09: I'm really glad your herpes test was negative | 01:48 |
| orangeninja | lol, well congrats...... | 01:49 |
| vychune | he was just messing | 01:49 |
| orangeninja | ha, I know. | 01:49 |
| vychune | and it not that funny | 01:50 |
| vychune | !weather 38116 | 01:50 |
| vychune | oops wrong chan | 01:50 |
| orangeninja | here you go, 83 and partly sunny | 01:51 |
| orangeninja | at least i my zip | 01:51 |
| vychune | lol | 01:51 |
| vychune | 38116 | 01:51 |
| vychune | btw where wrst bot | 01:52 |
| orangeninja | you do OK with the flooding down that way vychune ? | 01:53 |
| vychune | yes im very far from the river down here | 01:54 |
| wrst | vychune: working on another one | 01:54 |
| vychune | oh ok wrst | 01:55 |
| orangeninja | vychune: midsouthmakers is a maker group near memphis right? | 02:00 |
| orias | yes | 02:46 |
| orias | why do you ask? | 02:46 |
| orangeninja | Oh, I thought it was I remeber something about it several months back. | 03:01 |
| orangeninja | I don't know about any local maker groups up here. | 03:01 |
| orias | There's us in Memphis (MidsouthMakers) a group in Knoxville and ofc HC in Nashville | 03:04 |
| orias | Huntsville has Makers Local as well | 03:05 |
| orangeninja | cool | 03:05 |
| orias | are you in Memphis? | 03:07 |
| orangeninja | i am in Nashville | 03:08 |
| orias | checked out HC yet? | 03:11 |
| orias | http://www.hackerconsortium.com/location.php | 03:11 |
| orangeninja | looking at the site now | 03:11 |
| orangeninja | thanks to your link | 03:12 |
| vychune | thanks for answering in my absence orias | 03:28 |
| vychune | locobot_4: o/ | 03:39 |
| cyberanger | Anyone here using 64 bit on their desktops (I've only used it on servers) | 07:19 |
| cyberanger | I would care to know if you've been seeing any 64 bit only issues as of late | 07:19 |
| chris4585 | cyberanger, not lately, but the only issue I even encountered was with flash | 07:20 |
| cyberanger | not lately, good, that's what I want to hear | 07:22 |
| chris4585 | well I meant not lately by that specific issue ^ | 07:23 |
| cyberanger | I'm looking to upgrade, between ram and the hdd, I have to use Grub2 (or a mess of patches) for GPT (instead of MBR) to deal with a limitation on hard discs | 07:23 |
| cyberanger | and memory is 16 GB, which will mean 64 bit | 07:24 |
| chris4585 | you could use the pae kernel, I'm using it and ubuntu automatically installed it | 07:24 |
| cyberanger | chris4585: it's the biggest issue I hear, 32 bit code on x64, and you've not had it lately | 07:24 |
| cyberanger | the x64 or x86 pae kernel? | 07:25 |
| cyberanger | chris4585: yeah, but that might not solve the HDD issue, just the ram issue | 07:27 |
| chris4585 | there is an HDD issue? | 07:28 |
| cyberanger | I can try x86-PAE first, worst case, I reinstall with x64-pae | 07:28 |
| chris4585 | x86 pae kernel, I have 4gbs of ram and a x64 cpu and ubuntu installed the x86 pae kernel | 07:29 |
| chris4585 | using the 32bit iso ^ | 07:29 |
| cyberanger | chris4585: 2.19TB | 07:30 |
| cyberanger | limitation | 07:30 |
| chris4585 | are you serious? I didn't know that | 07:30 |
| cyberanger | and I'm seeing conflicting info on ubuntu setting the HIGHMEM64 option | 07:31 |
| cyberanger | chris4585: more in hardware than linux it seems yes | 07:31 |
| chris4585 | strange | 07:31 |
| cyberanger | chris4585: yeah, it's gotta have GUID Partition Table (GPT) instead of an MBR | 07:33 |
| chris4585 | ah, I didn't know that | 07:34 |
| cyberanger | and Unified Extensible Firmware Interface instead of the BIOS | 07:34 |
| cyberanger | there is also a limitation in the PAE HIGHMEM64 option, each process is limited to ~3.75GB but I hope that's not a concern for awhile | 07:39 |
| cyberanger | chris4585: you answered what really concerned me, the biggest issue, 32 bit code running on 64 bit being too buggy | 07:41 |
| cyberanger | flash for example | 07:42 |
| cyberanger | you've not had any issues of late | 07:42 |
| cyberanger | I've been at this for awhile tonight, checking hardware with debian and ubuntu | 07:44 |
| cyberanger | and so on, if I'm putting this much into it | 07:44 |
| cyberanger | chris4585: thanks | 07:46 |
| cyberanger | chris4585: this is gonna be the most powerful (and possibly most expensive) rig I've built | 07:50 |
| cyberanger | gotta do my homework before I invest | 07:51 |
| cyberanger | I'm excited though, this will be sweet | 07:54 |
| chris4585 | I don't think I'd worry about the flash so much, I haven't heard of many issues with it lately | 08:08 |
| chris4585 | doing the research sucks I can assure you that, I've had to do it before, but its worth it to get hardware that works flawless | 08:09 |
| chris4585 | I'm going to sleep, good night cyberanger | 08:09 |
| cyberanger | chris4585: indeed | 08:11 |
| cyberanger | normal rig isnt as much work too | 08:11 |
| cyberanger | this is too much power | 08:11 |
| wrst | morning everyone | 13:35 |
| cyberanger | Morning wrst | 13:52 |
| cyberanger | wrst: your using 64 bit too right? | 14:06 |
| wrst | cyberanger: me no I haven't? | 14:24 |
| wrst | cyberanger: well take that back I do use 64 on the desktop since I have 8 GB of RAM and I just ordered a laptop and will likely run 64bit on it also | 14:26 |
| cyberanger | wrst: any issues | 14:41 |
| cyberanger | wrst: getting parts for a rig that will require it | 14:41 |
| wrst | cyberanger: No only with flash I've always had to run an alpha version of flash that I haven't looked or updated lately | 14:41 |
| wrst | the 32 bit wrapped flush sucks | 14:42 |
| wrst | thats on both ubuntu and arch | 14:42 |
| wrst | I think possibly that broadcom wireless on 64bit may be a bit of a pain | 14:42 |
| wrst | atleast on ubuntu | 14:42 |
| cyberanger | 16GB ram and 3TB HDD, gonna have to use 64 bit when that arrives, made sure that wifi was a open chip type | 14:43 |
| cyberanger | flash is always a pain, but it has worked, yes? | 14:43 |
| cyberanger | the 64 bit alpha? | 14:44 |
| wrst | yes and I think it may be in the wild now cyberanger not for sure | 14:45 |
| wrst | you building a new system? | 14:46 |
| cyberanger | wrst: will be, soon enough | 14:46 |
| wrst | cool cyberanger that's a beast | 14:47 |
| cyberanger | mini-itx more powerful and more compact than any other of my rigs | 14:47 |
| cyberanger | quad core i5, 3.33 Ghz | 14:47 |
| wrst | I have a mini-itx atom powered server I love that form factor | 14:47 |
| wrst | nice cyberanger :) | 14:47 |
| wrst | cyberanger: I've not had intel chips in a long time but new laptop has an i3 in it | 14:47 |
| cyberanger | wrst: how many cores? | 14:48 |
| wrst | 2 | 14:49 |
| wrst | wanting to go 4 but... just a little more money than I could get out with | 14:49 |
| wrst | hang on i will get you a link | 14:49 |
| cyberanger | and I've always had Intel chips personally (not that I don't like AMD, just the other chips work, wifi, video, audio, no hassle, and for that without a cost difference, why not) | 14:49 |
| wrst | yes cyberanger i'm not so up on the video would have preferred NVIDIA but price once again | 14:50 |
| wrst | http://www.amazon.com/A52F-XA4-15-6-Inch-Versatile-Entertainment-Laptop/dp/B004RCNS4W/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1306331394&sr=8-4 | 14:50 |
| cyberanger | but it it's an intel video chip, it probally works | 14:51 |
| cyberanger | wrst: nice | 14:51 |
| wrst | that's what I know cyberanger along with the wireless and I like that | 14:52 |
| vychune | o/ | 14:52 |
| cyberanger | this is going to be a desktop, but since it's Mini-ITX it'll be travel sized | 14:52 |
| wrst | so I am looking forward to a "just works" linux experience with it | 14:52 |
| cyberanger | hey vychune | 14:52 |
| vychune | what are you guys talking about this morning | 14:52 |
| wrst | yeah cyberanger you will really like all that i think and 16GB of RAM not for sure what I woudl do with all of that | 14:53 |
| wrst | vychune: hardware hardware hardware :) | 14:53 |
| wrst | vychune: good morning | 14:53 |
| cyberanger | and I'm seeing how I might be able to build a custom case for it, nice and compact, see about adding a keyboard (leave the mouse out, I have enough usb devices for that, and could probally find a touch pad or something) | 14:54 |
| cyberanger | it wouldn't be a laptop, but it could head to linux confrences next year, and stuff like that | 14:55 |
| wrst | cyberanger: get a keyboard with a touch pad built in? | 14:56 |
| cyberanger | and plug in with no cable clutter | 14:56 |
| cyberanger | well, I've not quite worked that out yet, with the hardware mod stage being worked over | 14:56 |
| wrst | ahh :) | 14:57 |
| cyberanger | yeah, not too sure where the ram will get used, exactly | 14:58 |
| cyberanger | but between VirtualBox and Ramdisks, and other work, it will | 14:58 |
| wrst | yeah I mean asssign 4GB of ram to a guest os how cool will that be? | 15:00 |
| wrst | i do that some with vista on my VM on my desktop but you will still have 12GB left! | 15:00 |
| vychune | at first i saw WMware lol isnt that hard to use | 15:06 |
| wrst | vychune: ? | 15:07 |
| wrst | ohh no I use virtual box vychune | 15:08 |
| vychune | -ikr | 15:08 |
| vychune | i tested bodhi linux on it a few days ago | 15:09 |
| wrst | how is it? | 15:10 |
| wrst | its ubuntu based? | 15:10 |
| vychune | i like it | 15:10 |
| vychune | idk think its *buntu based though let me check | 15:11 |
| vychune | yes it isd | 15:12 |
| vychune | http://www.bodhilinux.com/about.php | 15:13 |
| cyberanger | vychune: VMWare isn't bad, but not as simple | 15:13 |
| vychune | i didnt say it was bad | 15:13 |
| vychune | im just lazy | 15:14 |
| vychune | so i like VB | 15:14 |
| wrst | vychune: i'm lazy too | 15:15 |
| vychune | LOL | 15:15 |
| vychune | MootBot: tell wrst he's lazy | 15:16 |
| vychune | lol | 15:16 |
| wrst | ha :) | 15:16 |
| vychune | who's bot is locobot? | 15:16 |
| vychune | is that the logger? | 15:16 |
| cyberanger | vychune: one of two | 15:17 |
| vychune | oh ok | 15:17 |
| cyberanger | wrst: it'll make squid fly | 15:19 |
| wrst | ha ha yes | 15:19 |
| vychune | ??????????? | 15:19 |
| cyberanger | having a pretty hughe ramdisk for for squid and perhaps some files for apache | 15:19 |
| vychune | what is sqiud? | 15:20 |
| cyberanger | an HTTP Caching Proxy | 15:22 |
| vychune | oooooooooooooooooooooooohhhhhh | 15:22 |
| wrst | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squid_(software) | 15:22 |
| vychune | thanks wrst | 15:23 |
| cyberanger | it's useful | 15:26 |
| cyberanger | but yeah, one bottleneck I can't do too much to fix is the internet | 15:34 |
| cyberanger | but I can upgrade my lan at least | 15:34 |
| cyberanger | Gigabit LAN | 15:35 |
| cyberanger | and with it in Ram, no delay from HDD I/O | 15:35 |
| Xpistos | what is going on home scrollnicks! | 15:36 |
| cyberanger | hey Xpistos | 15:37 |
| cyberanger | how's it going | 15:37 |
| Xpistos | not bad, sleepy but not bad | 15:37 |
| cyberanger | woot, just setup a transparent proxy, suprised I never did that before | 15:52 |
| === Xpistos is now known as Lunch4Xpistos | ||
| cyberanger | wrst: ok, thanks | 18:56 |
| vychune | hey guys | 20:07 |
| wrst | hey | 20:12 |
| vychune | got the bot up? | 20:12 |
| wrst | bah laptop fried been delayed | 20:14 |
| vychune | WHAT HAPPENED? | 20:15 |
| wrst | poor airflow the laptop is about 5 years old and had one of the first I think amd dual core processors in it always ran hot and sucked air from the bottom where you always had it laid so lasted much longer than i expected but not as long as I would have liked so I could have replaced it a little better than I did | 20:18 |
| vychune | oh | 20:19 |
| vychune | bummer dude | 20:19 |
| vychune | get a netbook? | 20:21 |
| wrst | no vychuneI use a notebook for a lot of stuff, and prefer a little more full size feel | 20:22 |
| wrst | vychune: its one of these: http://www.amazon.com/A52F-XA4-15-6-Inch-Versatile-Entertainment-Laptop/dp/B004RCNS4W/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1306331394&sr=8-4 | 20:23 |
| vychune | now that my friend is a laptop | 20:24 |
| Lunch4Xpistos | hey cyberanger with the skype news recently, I may want to get a sip server going. Can I get away with a P3 on that? | 20:28 |
| vychune | what's up my ninja lol | 20:39 |
| wrst | vychune: its ok i woudl have preferred nvidia video, but i like the HDD space a lot | 20:39 |
| vychune | oh ok | 20:40 |
| orangeninja | sup homie | 20:42 |
| wrst | hello orangeninja | 20:42 |
| wrst | Lunch4Xpistos: how you doing? | 20:42 |
| orangeninja | doing good, how about you guys? | 20:43 |
| === Lunch4Xpistos is now known as Xpistos | ||
| Xpistos | wrst: fair | 20:43 |
| vychune | Lunch4Xpistos: got sum for me? | 20:43 |
| Xpistos | aggrievation, sure. Have all you want | 20:43 |
| Xpistos | I am working on day 4 with a migrane | 20:43 |
| orangeninja | man I hate those Xpistos, hope it gets better for you soon | 20:45 |
| Xpistos | thanks brother | 20:45 |
| vychune | the pounding sensitivity to light gosh | 20:46 |
| vychune | get well soon | 20:46 |
| Xpistos | at least it has been moving | 20:47 |
| vychune | moving? ouch | 20:48 |
| linuxman410 | wrst u here | 21:25 |
| linuxman410 | cyberanger u here | 21:26 |
| wrst | hey linuxman410 | 21:33 |
| linuxman410 | wrst how come xubuntu 11.04 has unity too | 21:33 |
| wrst | beats me linuxman410? | 21:34 |
| wrst | didn't know it did, that's silly | 21:35 |
| linuxman410 | wrst there is a unity 2d out now | 21:36 |
| wrst | yeah has been for a while QT based too which is interesting | 21:36 |
| cyberanger | linuxman410: mistake? | 21:48 |
| linuxman410 | cyberanger what mistake | 21:48 |
| cyberanger | xubuntu unity | 21:50 |
| cyberanger | perhaps? | 21:50 |
| linuxman410 | cyberanger whhen i booted up it said something about unity the live cd | 21:51 |
| cyberanger | but didn't actually boot unity? | 21:51 |
| linuxman410 | cyberanger no i do not guess but what are the icons on bottom | 21:52 |
| linuxman410 | cyberanger xubuntu has icons on the bottom now | 21:53 |
| cyberanger | hrm | 21:55 |
| cyberanger | Xpistos: perhaps, depends on the task, the load | 21:58 |
| Xpistos | well I would need to assume 6 callers | 21:59 |
| cyberanger | I'd be able to presume no, based on the motherboards ram limitation for common P3 boards | 22:00 |
| cyberanger | or more accurately, a strech that seems unrealistic for 'on-air' quality | 22:01 |
| Xpistos | roger | 22:01 |
| Xpistos | we are a bit away from that need, but I want to proceed with that in mind | 22:02 |
| * cyberanger nods | 22:08 | |
| cyberanger | wrst: http://wiki.squid-cache.org/SquidFaq/SquidMemory | 23:29 |
| cyberanger | plus the idea of a ramdisk cache, might give you an idea on some ram usage | 23:30 |
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