[01:42] o/ [01:44] hello vychune [01:45] how you doing [01:46] good, how are you? [01:47] good [01:48] got a surprise upon logging itno midsouthmakers's chan [01:48] vychune: Message from Svpernova09: I'm really glad your herpes test was negative [01:49] lol, well congrats...... [01:49] he was just messing [01:49] ha, I know. [01:50] and it not that funny [01:50] !weather 38116 [01:50] oops wrong chan [01:51] here you go, 83 and partly sunny [01:51] at least i my zip [01:51] lol [01:51] 38116 [01:52] btw where wrst bot [01:53] you do OK with the flooding down that way vychune ? [01:54] yes im very far from the river down here [01:54] vychune: working on another one [01:55] oh ok wrst [02:00] vychune: midsouthmakers is a maker group near memphis right? [02:46] yes [02:46] why do you ask? [03:01] Oh, I thought it was I remeber something about it several months back. [03:01] I don't know about any local maker groups up here. [03:04] There's us in Memphis (MidsouthMakers) a group in Knoxville and ofc HC in Nashville [03:05] Huntsville has Makers Local as well [03:05] cool [03:07] are you in Memphis? [03:08] i am in Nashville [03:11] checked out HC yet? [03:11] http://www.hackerconsortium.com/location.php [03:11] looking at the site now [03:12] thanks to your link [03:28] thanks for answering in my absence orias [03:39] locobot_4: o/ [07:19] Anyone here using 64 bit on their desktops (I've only used it on servers) [07:19] I would care to know if you've been seeing any 64 bit only issues as of late [07:20] cyberanger, not lately, but the only issue I even encountered was with flash [07:22] not lately, good, that's what I want to hear [07:23] well I meant not lately by that specific issue ^ [07:23] I'm looking to upgrade, between ram and the hdd, I have to use Grub2 (or a mess of patches) for GPT (instead of MBR) to deal with a limitation on hard discs [07:24] and memory is 16 GB, which will mean 64 bit [07:24] you could use the pae kernel, I'm using it and ubuntu automatically installed it [07:24] chris4585: it's the biggest issue I hear, 32 bit code on x64, and you've not had it lately [07:25] the x64 or x86 pae kernel? [07:27] chris4585: yeah, but that might not solve the HDD issue, just the ram issue [07:28] there is an HDD issue? [07:28] I can try x86-PAE first, worst case, I reinstall with x64-pae [07:29] x86 pae kernel, I have 4gbs of ram and a x64 cpu and ubuntu installed the x86 pae kernel [07:29] using the 32bit iso ^ [07:30] chris4585: 2.19TB [07:30] limitation [07:30] are you serious? I didn't know that [07:31] and I'm seeing conflicting info on ubuntu setting the HIGHMEM64 option [07:31] chris4585: more in hardware than linux it seems yes [07:31] strange [07:33] chris4585: yeah, it's gotta have GUID Partition Table (GPT) instead of an MBR [07:34] ah, I didn't know that [07:34] and Unified Extensible Firmware Interface instead of the BIOS [07:39] there is also a limitation in the PAE HIGHMEM64 option, each process is limited to ~3.75GB but I hope that's not a concern for awhile [07:41] chris4585: you answered what really concerned me, the biggest issue, 32 bit code running on 64 bit being too buggy [07:42] flash for example [07:42] you've not had any issues of late [07:44] I've been at this for awhile tonight, checking hardware with debian and ubuntu [07:44] and so on, if I'm putting this much into it [07:46] chris4585: thanks [07:50] chris4585: this is gonna be the most powerful (and possibly most expensive) rig I've built [07:51] gotta do my homework before I invest [07:54] I'm excited though, this will be sweet [08:08] I don't think I'd worry about the flash so much, I haven't heard of many issues with it lately [08:09] doing the research sucks I can assure you that, I've had to do it before, but its worth it to get hardware that works flawless [08:09] I'm going to sleep, good night cyberanger [08:11] chris4585: indeed [08:11] normal rig isnt as much work too [08:11] this is too much power [13:35] morning everyone [13:52] Morning wrst [14:06] wrst: your using 64 bit too right? [14:24] cyberanger: me no I haven't? [14:26] cyberanger: well take that back I do use 64 on the desktop since I have 8 GB of RAM and I just ordered a laptop and will likely run 64bit on it also [14:41] wrst: any issues [14:41] wrst: getting parts for a rig that will require it [14:41] cyberanger: No only with flash I've always had to run an alpha version of flash that I haven't looked or updated lately [14:42] the 32 bit wrapped flush sucks [14:42] thats on both ubuntu and arch [14:42] I think possibly that broadcom wireless on 64bit may be a bit of a pain [14:42] atleast on ubuntu [14:43] 16GB ram and 3TB HDD, gonna have to use 64 bit when that arrives, made sure that wifi was a open chip type [14:43] flash is always a pain, but it has worked, yes? [14:44] the 64 bit alpha? [14:45] yes and I think it may be in the wild now cyberanger not for sure [14:46] you building a new system? [14:46] wrst: will be, soon enough [14:47] cool cyberanger that's a beast [14:47] mini-itx more powerful and more compact than any other of my rigs [14:47] quad core i5, 3.33 Ghz [14:47] I have a mini-itx atom powered server I love that form factor [14:47] nice cyberanger :) [14:47] cyberanger: I've not had intel chips in a long time but new laptop has an i3 in it [14:48] wrst: how many cores? [14:49] 2 [14:49] wanting to go 4 but... just a little more money than I could get out with [14:49] hang on i will get you a link [14:49] and I've always had Intel chips personally (not that I don't like AMD, just the other chips work, wifi, video, audio, no hassle, and for that without a cost difference, why not) [14:50] yes cyberanger i'm not so up on the video would have preferred NVIDIA but price once again [14:50] http://www.amazon.com/A52F-XA4-15-6-Inch-Versatile-Entertainment-Laptop/dp/B004RCNS4W/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1306331394&sr=8-4 [14:51] but it it's an intel video chip, it probally works [14:51] wrst: nice [14:52] that's what I know cyberanger along with the wireless and I like that [14:52] o/ [14:52] this is going to be a desktop, but since it's Mini-ITX it'll be travel sized [14:52] so I am looking forward to a "just works" linux experience with it [14:52] hey vychune [14:52] what are you guys talking about this morning [14:53] yeah cyberanger you will really like all that i think and 16GB of RAM not for sure what I woudl do with all of that [14:53] vychune: hardware hardware hardware :) [14:53] vychune: good morning [14:54] and I'm seeing how I might be able to build a custom case for it, nice and compact, see about adding a keyboard (leave the mouse out, I have enough usb devices for that, and could probally find a touch pad or something) [14:55] it wouldn't be a laptop, but it could head to linux confrences next year, and stuff like that [14:56] cyberanger: get a keyboard with a touch pad built in? [14:56] and plug in with no cable clutter [14:56] well, I've not quite worked that out yet, with the hardware mod stage being worked over [14:57] ahh :) [14:58] yeah, not too sure where the ram will get used, exactly [14:58] but between VirtualBox and Ramdisks, and other work, it will [15:00] yeah I mean asssign 4GB of ram to a guest os how cool will that be? [15:00] i do that some with vista on my VM on my desktop but you will still have 12GB left! [15:06] at first i saw WMware lol isnt that hard to use [15:07] vychune: ? [15:08] ohh no I use virtual box vychune [15:08] -ikr [15:09] i tested bodhi linux on it a few days ago [15:10] how is it? [15:10] its ubuntu based? [15:10] i like it [15:11] idk think its *buntu based though let me check [15:12] yes it isd [15:13] http://www.bodhilinux.com/about.php [15:13] vychune: VMWare isn't bad, but not as simple [15:13] i didnt say it was bad [15:14] im just lazy [15:14] so i like VB [15:15] vychune: i'm lazy too [15:15] LOL [15:16] MootBot: tell wrst he's lazy [15:16] lol [15:16] ha :) [15:16] who's bot is locobot? [15:16] is that the logger? [15:17] vychune: one of two [15:17] oh ok [15:19] wrst: it'll make squid fly [15:19] ha ha yes [15:19] ??????????? [15:19] having a pretty hughe ramdisk for for squid and perhaps some files for apache [15:20] what is sqiud? [15:22] an HTTP Caching Proxy [15:22] oooooooooooooooooooooooohhhhhh [15:22] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squid_(software) [15:23] thanks wrst [15:26] it's useful [15:34] but yeah, one bottleneck I can't do too much to fix is the internet [15:34] but I can upgrade my lan at least [15:35] Gigabit LAN [15:35] and with it in Ram, no delay from HDD I/O [15:36] what is going on home scrollnicks! [15:37] hey Xpistos [15:37] how's it going [15:37] not bad, sleepy but not bad [15:52] woot, just setup a transparent proxy, suprised I never did that before === Xpistos is now known as Lunch4Xpistos [18:56] wrst: ok, thanks [20:07] hey guys [20:12] hey [20:12] got the bot up? [20:14] bah laptop fried been delayed [20:15] WHAT HAPPENED? [20:18] poor airflow the laptop is about 5 years old and had one of the first I think amd dual core processors in it always ran hot and sucked air from the bottom where you always had it laid so lasted much longer than i expected but not as long as I would have liked so I could have replaced it a little better than I did [20:19] oh [20:19] bummer dude [20:21] get a netbook? [20:22] no vychuneI use a notebook for a lot of stuff, and prefer a little more full size feel [20:23] vychune: its one of these: http://www.amazon.com/A52F-XA4-15-6-Inch-Versatile-Entertainment-Laptop/dp/B004RCNS4W/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1306331394&sr=8-4 [20:24] now that my friend is a laptop [20:28] hey cyberanger with the skype news recently, I may want to get a sip server going. Can I get away with a P3 on that? [20:39] what's up my ninja lol [20:39] vychune: its ok i woudl have preferred nvidia video, but i like the HDD space a lot [20:40] oh ok [20:42] sup homie [20:42] hello orangeninja [20:42] Lunch4Xpistos: how you doing? [20:43] doing good, how about you guys? === Lunch4Xpistos is now known as Xpistos [20:43] wrst: fair [20:43] Lunch4Xpistos: got sum for me? [20:43] aggrievation, sure. Have all you want [20:43] I am working on day 4 with a migrane [20:45] man I hate those Xpistos, hope it gets better for you soon [20:45] thanks brother [20:46] the pounding sensitivity to light gosh [20:46] get well soon [20:47] at least it has been moving [20:48] moving? ouch [21:25] wrst u here [21:26] cyberanger u here [21:33] hey linuxman410 [21:33] wrst how come xubuntu 11.04 has unity too [21:34] beats me linuxman410? [21:35] didn't know it did, that's silly [21:36] wrst there is a unity 2d out now [21:36] yeah has been for a while QT based too which is interesting [21:48] linuxman410: mistake? [21:48] cyberanger what mistake [21:50] xubuntu unity [21:50] perhaps? [21:51] cyberanger whhen i booted up it said something about unity the live cd [21:51] but didn't actually boot unity? [21:52] cyberanger no i do not guess but what are the icons on bottom [21:53] cyberanger xubuntu has icons on the bottom now [21:55] hrm [21:58] Xpistos: perhaps, depends on the task, the load [21:59] well I would need to assume 6 callers [22:00] I'd be able to presume no, based on the motherboards ram limitation for common P3 boards [22:01] or more accurately, a strech that seems unrealistic for 'on-air' quality [22:01] roger [22:02] we are a bit away from that need, but I want to proceed with that in mind [22:08] * cyberanger nods [23:29] wrst: http://wiki.squid-cache.org/SquidFaq/SquidMemory [23:30] plus the idea of a ramdisk cache, might give you an idea on some ram usage