[12:44] <nigelb> mhall119, cjohnston, Daviey: We have responses from the survey.  I've mailed you folks.
[13:05] <chaynie> mhall119: you around?
[13:13] <Daviey> nigelb, ta
[13:14] <nigelb> Daviey: :)
[13:14] <mhall119> chaynie: morning
[13:14] <nigelb> Good morning mhall119 :)
[13:14] <mhall119> nigelb: morning
[13:14] <mhall119> or evening
[13:15] <nigelb> 5:45
[13:15] <mhall119> evening it is then
[13:15] <mhall119> nigelb: what city are you in?
[13:16] <nigelb> mhall119: Bangalore
[13:16]  * mhall119 adds Bangalore time to the Unity clock applet
[13:24] <chaynie>  mhall119: cjohnston finally guilted me in to helping out. What should I do to get started?
[13:24] <chaynie> cjohnston wields guilt not unlike a fireman's axe.
[13:25] <chaynie> =D
[13:27] <mhall119> nigelb: reading over this feedback, it seems 30% of the requests just involve educating the user (or making existing features easier to find)
[13:27] <mhall119> chaynie: helping out on what?
[13:27] <mhall119> summit? loco-directory?
[13:28] <chaynie> mhall119: loco directory I think.
[13:29] <chaynie> something involving python and django.
[13:31] <mhall119> loco-directory is a nicer place to get started
[13:33] <chaynie> should I checkout trunk from bzr then and start poking around?
[13:33] <mhall119> yup
[13:33] <mhall119> there are instructions for getting your local env setup
[13:34] <mhall119> you know where to find cjohnston and I if you need help
[13:35] <cjohnston> mornin
[13:37] <YoBoY> morning
[13:37] <YoBoY> can I ask a stupid question on the LD project ?
[13:38] <cjohnston> sure
[13:39] <YoBoY> why all the code is in a "loco-directory" folder and not in the root of the project folder, it's a django who need a folder always with the same name ?
[13:40] <cjohnston> I don't know the true answer.. mhall119 would maybe be able to shed some light
[13:41]  * YoBoY don't like to have to enter in so many folders to start hacking ^^"
[13:42] <nigelb> mhall119: heh
[13:42] <nigelb> cjohnston: I like one of them
[13:42] <nigelb> erm
[13:43] <nigelb> mhall119: I like the one where they want to select the sessions one is interested
[13:43] <chaynie> YoBoY: The deeper hierarchy encourages good namespacing, which is important for larger projects. :)
[13:44] <YoBoY> chaynie: sure, but in my case I have to cd loco-directory/loco-directory/loco-directory
[13:44] <YoBoY> :D
[13:46] <cjohnston> I have a Projects folder, in there I have a LoCo Directory, Summit, etc... In LoCo Directory I would have a trunk/ and then the bugs I'm working on
[13:46] <cjohnston> so cd Projects/loco-directory/xx/loco-directory
[13:47] <chaynie> YoBoY: echo "alias lll='loco-directory/loco-directory/loco-directory'" >> ~/.bashrc; source ~/.bashrc
[13:47] <YoBoY> cjohnston: yes when I try to hack first thing is to make a new branch (your xx) but I keep the "original" your trunk in the default name
[13:48] <nigelb> YoBoY: well, the correct way to do it is like what Ubuntu distributed development tries
[13:48] <nigelb> you create a repo and then keep making branch from that and work on those branches
[13:49] <nigelb> quite like what launchpad development is like
[13:49] <YoBoY> like I said, it's just a stupid question, and only concern the inside loco-directory folder not how we work with projects
[14:14] <mhall119> YoBoY: "loco_directory" is the python project
[14:15] <mhall119> django project, sorry
[14:15] <mhall119> this is the simplest directory structure for keeping a django project in a branch
[14:16] <mhall119> think of "loco_directory" as equivilent to "src" that you find in most source trees
[14:17] <mhall119> also, do what cjohnston and nigelb suggested, bzr init-repo loco-directory, then bzr branch lp:loco-directory trunk"
[14:17] <mhall119> then you can "bzr branch ./trunk ./fix-bug-12345"
[14:18] <YoBoY> sure, thanks
[14:21] <mhall119> YoBoY: I've recently been following this: http://micknelson.wordpress.com/2011/05/19/sharing-your-development-environment-across-branches/ and it's been working out very well
[14:21] <mhall119> cjohnston: nigelb; ^^ you guys might be interested in that too
[14:27] <YoBoY> the switch seems great :) I'll have to try it on one of my team projects :D
[14:33] <daker> mhall119, i ma using django 1.3 at work and i can't work on LD since it needs django 1.1.1, do you know can i run 1.3 & 1.1.1 on the same machine ?
[14:33] <mhall119> daker: you can with virtualenv
[14:33] <daker> any docs ?
[14:40] <mhall119> on virtualenv, yes, on using it for loco-directory, no
[14:41] <mhall119> but I can give you a quite setup
[14:43] <daker> ok give me
[14:44] <mhall119> I'm writing it up in the wiki, give me a few minutes
[14:45] <daker> tyt
[14:51] <mhall119> daker: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoDirectory/Development#Using%20Virtualenv
[14:51] <mhall119> whoops, should be python2.6 not 2.3
[14:52] <daker> ok
[14:56] <nigelb> mhall119: that's sort of exactly what I use for summit and LD :)
[15:18] <daker> mhall119, is it --python=/usr/bin/python2.6 .env or --python=/usr/bin/python .env? because on natty there is no python2.6
[15:18] <daker> on /usr/bin/ there is just python & python2.7
[15:20] <mhall119> no 2.6 on natty? mine must be left over from maverick then
[15:20] <mhall119> I don't *think* there's an issue using 2.7
[15:20] <daker> also virtualenv needs a destination dir
[15:21] <mhall119> if that's all you have, you don't need the --python option at all
[15:21] <mhall119> daker: that's the .env part
[15:21] <daker> ah
[15:23] <daker> woow
[15:24] <daker> thanks mhall119
[15:24] <mhall119> np, happy hacking
[15:25] <nigelb> mhall119: generally using /usr/env/python works :)
[15:27] <mhall119> /usr/env?
[15:28] <nigelb> mhall119: erm, /usr/bin/env python :)
[15:28] <nigelb> mhall119: wait, ignore me
[15:28] <nigelb> mhall119: sorry, wrong context.
[15:33] <mhall119> :P
[15:45] <cjohnston> mhall119: whats the status of django-openid-auth?
[15:47] <mhall119> cjohnston: I got a hold of jamesh last night (morning in Australia) to ask him to pickup the 2 outstanding MPs
[15:48] <cjohnston> sweet
[15:48] <mhall119> once they've landed, I'll bug achuni to build a new package
[15:48] <mhall119> or get the package branch from him and do it myself
[15:48] <cjohnston> would be aweosome if we could get it fixed in the next few days
[15:48] <mhall119> why the next few days?
[15:48] <cjohnston> cuase im tired of waiting ;-)
[15:48] <mhall119> :P
[16:58] <nigelb> joey: heh, did you say "Its awesome! I want to hug the developers!" ;)
[16:58] <joey> lol
[16:58] <nigelb> :)
[16:58] <joey> No, but that's a neat idea for the next time :-)
[16:59] <joey> I put in the same info we have bugs for
[16:59] <mhall119> hugging us is a neat idea
[16:59] <nigelb> heh
[16:59]  * joey wonders what his wife would think.
[17:01] <nigelb> mhall119: I have a suggestion
[17:01] <mhall119> does it involve hugs?
[17:01] <nigelb> can we move to celery for the tasks we now run on cron for LD and summit?
[17:01] <mhall119> joey: she can hug us too, it that'll help
[17:01] <nigelb> that way an admin can control it from the web UI
[17:02] <joey> mhall119: oh I'm sure it'll help :-)  She's just never in the same spot as me
[17:02] <mhall119> nigelb: if you want to make that happen, I'd support it
[17:02] <nigelb> mhall119: If we can get rid of critical bugs, that's a feature I'd like to work on.
[17:02] <mhall119> nigelb: +1
[17:03] <nigelb> :)
[17:03] <nigelb> Got the idea from Launchpad.
[17:03] <nigelb> See? Working on LP isn't that bad :)
[17:06] <joey> mhall119: although, she might make a guest appearance at UDS Orlando .... there's some talk about doing a disney vacation
[17:06]  * cjohnston hands out directions to mhall119's house
[17:12] <nigelb> heh
[17:15] <mhall119> joey: my family has disney passes, so we'll go on any planned group trip
[17:18] <daker> mhall119, each time i need to install django on Virtualenv or what ?
[17:18] <mhall119> daker: each time you create a new virtualenv, yes
[17:18] <mhall119> but you can re-use the same .env for all of your LD branches
[17:29] <Ronnie> mhall119: it could be nice if the commands are explained a bit more
[17:29] <Ronnie> mhall119: and what about jquery libs in virtual env?
[17:29] <nigelb> Ronnie: jquery works despite virtualenv
[17:29] <nigelb> okay, I'll fix this up
[17:30] <nigelb> I mean, its on my list, but just not *right now*
[17:31] <Ronnie> nigelb: 10.10 has a newer jquery than 10.04. In 10.10 is a bug. so if that coud be fixed by virtual env, that should be cool
[17:31] <nigelb> Ronnie: It can't.
[17:31] <nigelb> Ronnie: We'll just have to tell people to manually drop a particular version of jquery
[17:32] <nigelb> This reminds me need more documentation for new developers.
[17:32] <Ronnie> oke