| ochosi | mr_pouit: did you see xfce bug 7564 is marked as resolved? maybe that would be something worth backporting/pushing to natty... | 08:23 |
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| ubottu | Launchpad bug 7564 in Ubuntu "cupsd is not started on the Warty live CD" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/7564 | 08:23 |
| ochosi | darn you, ubottu | 08:24 |
| ochosi | i mean xfce 7564 | 08:24 |
| ochosi | meh :/ | 08:24 |
| mr_pouit | ochosi: no, I didn't =] | 09:28 |
| ochosi | well, it's brand new anyway | 09:28 |
| mr_pouit | yeah, it's probably worth doing smothing to natty | 09:28 |
| ochosi | but it would be pretty cool if indicators would support vertical panels | 09:28 |
| mr_pouit | can you file a bug on LP about that? | 09:28 |
| ochosi | i think xfce would be the first DE to sport that feature | 09:28 |
| mr_pouit | otherwise it'll get lost | 09:29 |
| ochosi | sure, np | 09:29 |
| ochosi | mr_pouit: bug 787977 | 09:33 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 787977 in xfce4-indicator-plugin (Ubuntu) "doesn't support vertical panel layout" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/787977 | 09:33 |
| mr_pouit | thanks | 09:37 |
| ochosi | np | 09:56 |
| charlie-tca | Good morning | 15:11 |
| micahg | good morning charlie-tca | 15:12 |
| * drc hands charlie-tca a cuppa...noting that tea has been added to the menu. | 15:15 | |
| charlie-tca | Thank you, drc | 15:20 |
| charlie-tca | Ubuntu daily, daily-live, and ubuntu-server images for oneiric are available from http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/ | 15:28 |
| drc | Oh darn...time to go to work :( | 15:29 |
| charlie-tca | No, you are waiting for Xubuntu images | 15:30 |
| drc | oh...yeah...I'm just so used to people saying "I installed Ubuntu" for all three flavors | 15:31 |
| * drc returns to his dozing. | 15:32 | |
| * drc suddenly wakes up, thinking he'll just DL it anyway, just to see if common things like the "activated but not in use" bug is still there. | 15:43 | |
| charlie-tca | These are the first images, most bugs will not fixed yet | 15:45 |
| drc | I know, but I'm bored...and who knows? | 15:45 |
| drc | Maybe I'll like Unity so much now, I'll switch. | 15:46 |
| charlie-tca | hehheh | 15:47 |
| drc | No really, I *want* to like Unity, I just...can't. | 15:48 |
| * drc checks to make sure the Get Off My Lawn sign is still up. | 15:51 | |
| charlie-tca | I do like unity! I just don't like to use it for me | 15:58 |
| drc | "Oh no! Something has gone wrong." | 16:01 |
| drc | 32 bit Oneiric won't even boot to the try/install screen...something about /run/udev not writable (error message flashes to fast to read all of it). | 16:03 |
| micahg | drc: it should fall back to /dev/.udev | 16:03 |
| drc | Well, considering it's not even alpha yet...not to shabby :) | 16:03 |
| drc | micahg: It boots to a screen with the "Oh no!" message, with what looks like an incomplete nautilus window on to of it (you can close that window) | 16:06 |
| drc | One day down, only 150 to go. | 16:06 |
| * drc has had a very tiring day now...decides to take a nap. | 16:09 | |
| charlie-tca | \o/ | 16:10 |
| charlie-tca | still need to get word, I guess - "didn't knwo xubuntu 11.04 was already out! great, thanks" | 16:19 |
| drc | charlie-tca: No, that was <U>buntu Oneiric. | 16:21 |
| charlie-tca | what was? | 16:21 |
| charlie-tca | the tiring day? | 16:22 |
| drc | Never mind, I thought you were replying to my "Oh no!" series. | 16:22 |
| charlie-tca | oh, | 16:23 |
| charlie-tca | no, that was a comment from another channel | 16:23 |
| drc | ohhhh...multichanneling...how cool ;) | 16:23 |
| ochosi | charlie-tca: the bugfix for the indicators was just uploaded to -proposed | 19:15 |
| ochosi | yay! :) | 19:15 |
| ochosi | that means that vertical panels will work _a lot_ better than before, even better than in maverick | 19:15 |
| drc | Yeah Redux...er...that was bug 759312, correct? | 19:17 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 759312 in xfce4-indicator-plugin (Ubuntu) "xfce-indicator-plugin requires more space on panel than necessary" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/759312 | 19:17 |
| ochosi | drc: no, it's bug 787977 | 19:18 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 787977 in xfce4-indicator-plugin (Ubuntu Natty) "doesn't support vertical panel layout" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/787977 | 19:18 |
| drc | rats! | 19:19 |
| ochosi | drc: what you have to uninstall to get rid of the envelope is "indicator-messages" | 19:19 |
| ochosi | it always worked for me | 19:19 |
| ochosi | (meaning i can't confirm your bug) | 19:20 |
| ochosi | drc: after uninstalling the indicator-messages package you obviously need a "xfce4-panel --restart" | 19:21 |
| drc | ochosi: no, it goes away automagically soon after I use pidgin the first time (at least I think that's the when, so systematic testing...Maybe I'll do that sometime during my daily tests). But after it goes away, the spacing is all messed up (re: 759312) | 19:22 |
| drc | ochosi: The spacing is *still* off after...how many reboots has it been since I files it? | 19:23 |
| ochosi | drc so you really uninstalled indicator-messages? (uninstalling gwibber is not enough), your /usr/lib/indicators kinda suggests otherwise... | 19:24 |
| ochosi | reboots shouldn't change much, restarting the panel should be fine for the indicators | 19:25 |
| drc | No...let me see if I can explain it a little better. | 19:25 |
| ochosi | sure, go ahead | 19:26 |
| drc | When I first started with xubuntu, gwibber was installed by default. I usually uninstalled it early in my config process (I never used it and did not like the indicator being present). | 19:27 |
| drc | This resulted in the spacing proiblem I indicated. | 19:28 |
| drc | Since then, gwibber appears to not be installed by default, but the "envelope" is still present (with a pidgin message). | 19:29 |
| ochosi | right | 19:30 |
| ochosi | i understand all that | 19:30 |
| drc | The envelope now goes away (after some unspecified time, but I *think* it's relatively soon after using pidgin the first time, and rebooting). The spacing problem is, however still there. | 19:30 |
| drc | Using a "light" theme (say clearlooks), one can detect what looks like a spacing holder in the inidicators. I'll do a screenshot and post it in just a moment. | 19:32 |
| ochosi | drc: i know the "spacing" problem | 19:32 |
| ochosi | no need for the screenshot | 19:32 |
| drc | ok...then what am I not telling you that you need to know? ") | 19:33 |
| ochosi | open a terminal, what does "sudo apt-get remove indicator-messages" say? :) | 19:34 |
| drc | duh! | 19:35 |
| drc | The indicator messages was removed....I did a "xfce4-panel --restart" and the spacing problem was fixed. | 19:36 |
| ochosi | k, then you know what you have to write in your bugreport ;) | 19:36 |
| drc | Yup, but the question remains...without removing the indicator-messages, why does the "envelope" disappear, but the spacing remain? | 19:37 |
| drc | Not that it matters, just curious | 19:38 |
| ochosi | i assume because there's nothing the indicator can show. you could try the same in ubuntu, wondering what would happen there | 19:38 |
| ochosi | in fact it's a teensy bit better to not show the envelope when there are no apps installed that use it than showing it | 19:39 |
| ochosi | but i agree that maybe it should either be completely hidden or completely shown | 19:39 |
| ochosi | so basically you can confirm the bug but explain how to "fix"/workaround it | 19:39 |
| * drc is trying to figure out how to word this so he doesn't look totally stupid :) | 19:42 | |
| ochosi | hehe | 19:43 |
| drc | ochosi: Could this have something to do with the fact the I never stared pidgin thru the indicatore but always used the menu/icon on the panel? | 19:44 |
| ochosi | nope, not as far as my experience goes | 19:44 |
| ochosi | wait, i think you're talking about two different bugs here | 19:44 |
| ochosi | one is: if there are no apps using indicator-messages but the package is still installed, there is some empty spacing | 19:45 |
| ochosi | the other is: for some reason the envelope appears/disappears randomely when pidgin is installed | 19:45 |
| ochosi | did i get that right now? | 19:45 |
| drc | Almost | 19:47 |
| drc | Gotta run for about 5 min...puppy wants out...NOW | 19:48 |
| ochosi | k, good luck with that | 19:48 |
| ochosi | gotta go too | 19:49 |
| ochosi | see you around | 19:49 |
| drc | Back...and see you later. | 19:52 |
| foobar | Hi :) | 20:24 |
| foobar | Where should I report a bug concerning xfapplet? At xfce or launchpad? | 20:24 |
| foobar | After installation on one PC only stock-market quotation can be chosen and on the other system none... | 20:24 |
| foobar | Both systems running Xubuntu 11.04 | 20:25 |
| micahg | foobar: ubuntu-bug xfce4-xfapplet-plugin | 20:28 |
| foobar | Thanks micahg - I'll post it there. | 20:29 |
| foobar | Have a nice day. | 20:29 |
| drc | Well, that was interesting...never installed from the ALT series before...why does everyone think an ncurses install is "hard"? | 20:51 |
| drc | BTW, Ubuntu Alt64 install get the same /run/udev notwritable error (although it does try to fall back to .udev (?) | 20:52 |
| Soupermanito | i installed from alt the other day, had to use another live cd to use gparted, which is ghey if ask me | 20:55 |
| drc | I never had to repartition...I just used my existing testing partition and formated, so I can't speak to that. | 20:57 |
| micahg_ | BTW, lightdm seems to work great ATM | 22:46 |
| charlie-tca | Glad to hear that | 22:53 |
| charlie-tca | me and Luke are up for insuring it is fully accessible in Oneiric, too | 22:53 |
| charlie-tca | We promised at UDS that it will be | 22:53 |
| micahg_ | same list of users as default GDM ATM, hopefully we can make that a preference | 22:55 |
| * micahg_ also has to add some stuff to the Firefox apparmor profile for it | 22:55 | |
| === micahg_ is now known as micahg | ||
| Soupermanito | micahg, does lightdm allows user pictures to be added? | 23:33 |
| micahg | Soupermanito: no idea | 23:34 |
| Soupermanito | mmmkay | 23:35 |
| Soupermanito | thanks anyway | 23:35 |
| charlie-tca | yes | 23:36 |
| charlie-tca | it will use html and css too | 23:36 |
| Soupermanito | :D that is awesome | 23:36 |
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