=== `mOOse` is now known as m00se [01:01] how can i boot into xmonad right away, skipping login managers and the like? === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [01:11] hi [01:12] i notice something strange be for a update of my system [01:13] my wireless card have lost of signal and decreace the speed past some 10 or 20 sec befor the connection [01:26] hi all,... [01:26] anyone got a tutorial to install canon ip1980 driver on xubuntu from tar? [01:27] i got a problem on compiling it.,... [01:39] bust place and no one talking? [01:39] <-------------n00b or b00b or whatever the eff you wanna call me [01:41] i'm such a noob that in order to mount a new sata hd i had to reinstal my os [01:41] seriously [01:41] awe you missed it [01:41] had the whole crowd laughing [01:42] xubuntu521: ? [01:42] i dunno man [01:42] xubuntu521: id suggest to switch your dealer [01:42] i am tryin this linux thing out [01:42] that often fixes things [01:43] i am the dealer how am i supposed to switch [01:43] drug dealer [01:43] ya new topic [01:43] linux [01:43] need help man [01:43] ok ya [01:43] sup with the kernel [01:44] i dunno he poppin in the microwave got the munchies [01:44] how you know? [01:44] nah just kiddin [01:44] kernel fine as far as i know [01:44] xdd [01:44] where you from xubuntu521 [01:44] in the middle of a reinstall saw this link clicked it [01:44] i assume us [01:44] BC,Canada [01:44] ooh [01:45] ye [01:45] what happened [01:45] Surrey/Vancouver [01:45] well bought a new hd [01:45] and after reading several forums what they say was not working for me [01:45] umm [01:45] hds shoudl work [01:45] i dont see any big problemz [01:46] well most i read were old sayin it be hda hdb or whatever and so one then i found it be sda sdb and so on for sata [01:47] ok [01:53] hello [01:54] i was the xubuntu521 guy my install finished and i reboot all by accident [01:55] hello [01:56] cube hello [01:57] give it a moment [01:58] you handy? [01:59] say i mounted a 500gig hd /home does that mean everything after home will be placed on the hd...so not like windows where it a seperate drive it really a seperate folder? [01:59] am a microsoft loser but since i own 3 xbox's figured i could at least take microsoft of my pc [01:59] but this linux stuff a bit confusing [02:00] * Stopping VirtualBox kernel modules [ OK ] [02:00] * Starting VirtualBox kernel modules * No suitable module for running kernel found [02:00] [fail] [02:00] also a problem i have no idea how to fix [02:05] * n8daddy gonna wait all day...rollin time [02:05] miss this irc thing been years.... [02:06] * n8daddy cutting and rolling [02:06] j/k gonna light up a roach [02:06] preecher [02:06] preech to me [02:07] tell me how good linux is and how me giving it an opportunity is a great thing [02:08] and why some sites say xubuntu is really not a lightweight os like ubuntu claims [02:08] i really like it [02:08] tried ubuntu gave up with that one this xubuntu very user friendly for me i find [02:09] could really use some good reading material to get me up to par as to how to work with unix maybe one day hack the... [02:09] wait for it [02:09] n8daddy kinda like shoes---just try until you find a good fit [02:09] the DoD [02:09] hey somebody speaks to me [02:10] well i like the fit of this xubuntu so far has been good [02:10] so good in fact [02:10] true story [02:11] last night was all gitty with how well it was working with my external hd's with fat32 for ps3 and xbox usage with vuze and everything [02:11] got up so quickly kicked my vantec hd enclosure off the shelf all tangled in the wires [02:11] so down about 2 hours of file transfer and organization i figure ok ide hd's be cheap [02:11] right [02:11] wrong more expensive than a sat twice the size [02:12] so now here i sit at home hours ago tryin to get new sata hd out box to work with os been working with for a maybe 5 days now [02:12] read forums all say pretty much same thing [02:13] found on that update me to the new sd rather than hd still no working for me [02:13] sda sd* hda hd* thing [02:14] so i just reinstal xubuntu with usb stick (excellent feature) shows up when i type df in terminal [02:14] new hd does i mean but sayts mounted as /home [02:14] so...with it being mounted /home does that mean that everything in the directory tree should be on that new hd? [02:16] have lots of doss experience working with batch files back in the early 90's but it has been years since i have even thought about that [02:16] need something good to read i guess [02:17] maybe one day i will know all the answers and i can be quiet and sit idle on irc lol [02:17] j/k [02:17] in a good mood i understand irc such old software most you guys prolly have it open and your box been on for the past 12 years while the irc died away [02:18] and forgot to log off [02:20] well i have moved off to inactive window like all you but i'ma check back OFTEN [02:21] still nothing [02:21] please [02:22] say i mounted a 500gig hd /home does that mean everything after home will be placed on the hd...so not like windows where it a seperate drive it really a seperate folder? [02:22] "after home?" [02:23] well in a directory tree [02:23] if it's mounted to /home, it'll put the stuff in /home. [02:23] open home then i create directory and so on inside that directory i put files [02:23] that will all be then stored on my new 500 gig right [02:23] Yes [02:23] excellent [02:23] windows [02:24] not like that [02:24] Windows's whole system dealing with partitions and drive letters is a hack job [02:24] at least they fixed it for mounted network locations [02:24] yes i have learned [02:24] done a lot of research ofn fat files systems [02:25] ntfs kinda fixed it but they hold all the secrets [02:25] from whati understood when i was reading of course [02:25] i dun know shit but what internet is able to inform me of [02:25] But yeah Xubuntu is not super-lightweight, but definitely much better than Unity [02:26] Lubuntu is good if you need it to be really lightweight [02:26] ya i have always been interested in tryin linux [02:26] atholon 64 2.7ghz with 2.5gb ram and built in video that share 128mb my ram [02:27] can barely run windows but this xubuntu is quick and snappy [02:27] and very user friendly for what i have got working [02:27] yeah [02:28] which not much but i dun need much either [02:29] I don't think modern OSes use hd* anymore by the way [02:29] even for PATA drives [02:29] vuze, web browser, this irc when i tried, pkr through wine, and now i am just tryin this virtual box which is gibving me problems i deally like to make a usb flash drive of windows so i can install that make my 40 gig for windows in need to situaitions and 500 gig for my linux and what i need to have work all the time situaitions [02:29] ya i read that [02:30] http://www.resplect.com/?q=node/30 <-- ram [02:30] ya that seem about right add vuze and a 2.5mb transfer rate and you use about an extra gig [02:31] that what task manager shows on my comp [02:32] report-hw [02:32] whoops [02:40] hmm... getting a crash report (looking at the info from the reporting it looks like gnome services?) when i login & then my wallpaper doesn't show up & i get a weird grey border around windows... & if i drag a window around it turns the background where it's been to grey [02:41] i just started usin linux i know nothing and not many people around here [02:41] like a ghost town probably blow dust off most the names over there -----------> [02:42] i'm wondering if it's because i upgraded from lucid -> maverick -> natty rather than doing a fresh install [02:43] no idea i did fresh instal xubuntu from web torrent download took like 10 minutes to dl then about 15 to make usb startup disk then about 20 min for an install [02:43] and during the install you c an even come in here and chat [02:43] i thought that was pretty kewl [02:44] got any experience with virtualbox? [02:44] The channels are strangely inactive today [02:44] even the normal ubuntu one [02:44] I think it's all the bad weather [02:44] yep, it's quiet... [02:45] oh, didn't even think about the weather [02:45] kewl [02:45] i like vibrance maybe i become a regular [02:45] i've used virtualbox, but it's been a while [02:45] can be one of them lurking learners mwahaha [02:45] i can't get it working [02:46] what exactly can't you get to work? is it not starting up at all? [02:46] vitual hard disk [02:47] ahh [02:47] is that where you're using the real hard drive? [02:47] lol [02:47] get someone willin to help try and get back to the error and it works [02:47] thanks for your help [02:49] with this virtualbox i can run macosx? [02:51] how cool is that runnin a windows setup while on an irc window with a web browser open [02:55] heh [02:56] ok [02:56] i got a question [02:57] shoot [02:57] if i do a fresh windows install on my 40 gig then dual boot another linux install onto my 500 gig is there anyway i can boot the xp os while runing linux on the other drive? [02:58] I have no idea, I'm sure there's a way, but, no idea [02:58] ok [02:59] that what i tryin to acheive right now have xp on one drive linux on another and i read this a way to make usb bootable xp install from linux [02:59] since i dun wanna use any cd media [02:59] that would have been the simple solution burn a copy of xp install usb install linux done [03:00] now that i got this virtual box in my hand though am curious about running a windows install inside linux [03:01] pretty quick install down to 19 minutes left [03:04] woah scary got my mouse stuck in the virtualbox [03:04] lmao [03:04] some good entertainment this computer has been for a couple days [03:05] been jammin xbox and windows for years...install linux xboxes are media players and the computer gets used again [03:06] love how i can type and get shit down in linux [03:06] done [03:06] done* [03:10] funny windows runs better in virtual box then it does installed [03:12] well wtf...virtual box not flawless hehe stole my mouse but not my keyboard and now i am stuck [03:12] lucky i stuck here can someone helkp me with this one? [03:12] any over rulling keyboard commands or something [03:12] Hi ..I just finished installing Xubuntu 10.04 ...configured dsl via pppoeconf ......problem is the networka manager is writing 192.168.1.1 as dns server in /etc/resolve.conf.......I want to use my own choice of public dns But the nm-applet is gone [03:13] told me right ctrl to get my mouse back which worked before but is not working now...it's like the window is not actually selected but my mouse thinks it is [03:24] D: [03:24] no idea [04:29] man i been hiding under a rock or sumthing [04:30] is there anything linux can't do? [04:34] nope [04:34] well, get viruses, but you can even do that if you try hard enough [04:52] huh [04:52] no viruses? [04:53] got this windows all up and running inside my box now but i can't get usb to work yet have rebooted windows so many times tryin different things then it dawned on me....boots like super quick compared to a normal install [04:58] hi === zero is now known as Guest39420 [04:58] some one [04:59] hola [04:59] mmm === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [04:59] hola [04:59] hello [05:00] need some help please [05:02] i have some problem whit the wireless [05:02] perfect conection but.. cant enter in a page [05:03] no one can help [05:04] ok thanks in advance [05:04] cya later [05:25] so i imagine there must be some good rpg style games for linux? [05:54] probably. There's also wine [05:55] uhh [05:55] you there? [05:57] just curious if there is a default password for xubuntu [05:59] when i try and use fdsik to format forums say su - [05:59] default password? [05:59] oh, root account does not have a password by default, n [05:59] o [05:59] then fdisk /dev/sda [05:59] su - [05:59] use sudo, I'd imagine? [05:59] well i get authenticaition failed [06:00] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo [06:00] and if i log in with one i created i don't have enough permissions [06:03] ok i read that now thanks [06:05] ahhh excellent mk thank you very much for the info [06:05] much more of an understanding as to what i am doing at the terminal level [06:05] yeah [06:05] sudo is your friend [06:06] i see said the blind man to his def dog as he pissed towards the wind...it all comes back to me hehe [06:06] heh [06:07] ya totally i just had no idea as to why they were asking for shit to be like this and mine not working [06:07] but now i get it [06:07] especially when i know the only password i entered into the thing and it still sayin wrong password [06:51] omg i give up to many hours with the same problem [06:52] gonna break down and buy myself a burnable c d tomorrow [06:52] lol [07:40] If I upgrade to 11.04 via Update Manager, can it utilize the Alternate installation image installed in an USB stick? [07:43] You can try, adding that as a software source first [07:43] or start the upgrade from the loop-mounted ISO [07:44] jarnos: Scroll down in this wiki for more info: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NattyUpgrades [07:45] Wish I knew that before taking 3 hours to upgrade today [08:01] Thanks, [08:02] Unit193, I wonder, if you can run cdromupgrade from bootable USB stick made of the alternate iso? [08:03] jarnos: I have never done so, but I would guess you could === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [08:04] anyeasy way to make a windows usb install from linux? [08:04] What about packages that are not contained in the image, but I have installed in my Maverick system? Can you upgrade them later using network? [08:05] or any experience makin usb work in virtual box on windows [08:14] can anyone help my installing my canon printer on xubuntu 64bit? [08:27] hi === zero is now known as Guest4445 [08:27] mmm [08:41] hooooowwwwwwllllllll [09:35] hi [09:36] does anyone experiencing the same problem? [72536.439871] xfce4-xkb-plugi[14963]: segfault at 7470616c ip 00509203 sp bfd2711c error 4 in libc-2.13.so[494000+15a000] [09:39] I have foud success [09:40] is anyone out there? [10:59] any easy way to change external hd label? [11:00] gparted [11:19] whats the default xubunut login manager? [11:20] Cube``: gdm [11:23] ok thx [11:53] thank you sysi [11:54] was n8daddy b4 with the volume label question [11:55] * four2zero was n8daddy b4 with the volume label question [11:59] !u [11:59] U is the 21st letter of the modern latin alphabet. Neither 'U' nor 'Ur' are words in the English language. Neither are 'R', 'Y', 'l8', 'Ne1' nor 'Bcuz'. Mangled English is hard for non-native English speakers. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/abbreviations/ for more information. [13:11] hello [13:11] is there a shortcut for changing the fontsize inside a terminal? [13:12] no [13:18] TheSheep: Any alternate terminal you would recommend? [13:30] no, I'm happy with the defaut [13:30] default [13:35] That's the only thing stopping me from switching to it. [17:44] IS it normal to select shut down while logged in and it takes me to the login screen? [17:45] roasted: bug (iirc) [17:45] It is hit and miss for me...I never know which one I' [17:46] ll get (shutdown or login). [17:46] o boy [17:46] I'm looking for the bug report.... [17:46] That is a bug as noted in the release notes for Xubuntu 11.04. A good, valid workaround is to logout, then restart or shutdown from the GDM screen, using the icon in the bottom [17:47] thats what Ive been doing [17:47] simple workaround [17:47] just made me wonder if it was intentional, somehow [17:48] It is not normal, I only experience using my intel video system [17:48] My system with Nvidia does not do it more than once in maybe 100 shutdowns [17:48] And my nvidia system (as I said, hit and miss) [17:48] I also noticed on my desktop, which is Ubuntu 11.04 + XFCE (just like my two laptops) that it always defaults to Ubuntu. always. IT wont default to Xubuntu Desktop, even though that was the last DE I used. [17:49] While my 2 laptops come up as Xubuntu Desktop EACH time since that's what I last used. [17:49] Did you install Xfce or xubuntu-desktop? [17:49] Xubuntu Desktop [17:49] That would be a bug then. It should always default to the last session used [17:50] iirc you can specify manually what session to use by default [17:50] Sysi, would you know how to do that, by chance? [17:50] system → login screen [17:50] hey off topic. have any of you guys used puppet? [17:51] I have used puppets to help teach my grandsons ;-) [17:51] I had the same problem when I partitioned for a testing partition...Grub2 would not "use" any changes to the config file. I solved it by re-installing grub2 (according to the wiki) and it mgically solved itself. [17:51] That is not uncommon [17:51] charlie-tca, have you heard of puppet? [17:52] hand or marionettes? [17:52] the program [17:52] for linux [17:52] its a system administrator's appication [17:52] no, I don't think so [17:52] supposedly you can control all linux systems on the network. every 30 mins or so they check in to receive new instructions [17:52] so I can say at 1130 install gparted or something, etc. [17:52] I don't have enough systems to bother with that [17:52] * drc can see roasted's questions for tomorrow :) [17:53] charlie-tca, we have 2,000. :) [17:53] were not on linux tho [17:53] not yet :D [17:54] We will have to refer roasted to #ubuntu-server when it gets too much for us [17:54] I might be headed there right now actually [17:54] I'm trying to find someone who's used it so I can just kinda bum ideas around with [17:54] instead of the #ubuntu chat which wants you to ask very direct and specific questions [17:54] They might know, or #edubuntu, would be another possiblility [17:54] I want to have a starbucks conversation about puppet. ya know? Sit around and just kinda yack about it and learn from each other. [17:57] whats the best newb-proof program to backup and restore a drive's image? [17:57] deja-dup [17:58] thanks, it looks good [17:58] It even automatically encrypts the backup. There is an option to turn the encryption off too [17:59] im setting this up for my mom so she can restore her windows partition every time she messes it up lol [17:59] Then turn off encryption so it doesn't ask for passphrases [17:59] yea i will [18:50] when i try to open a .ppt with libreoffice impress i get the error: "version incompatibility. Incorrect FIle Version" [18:52] I opened one from the same class yesteray so idk [18:58] bin_bash: Maybe it was created on a different machine, with a different version...or maybe it's just your bad luck gremlin at work again ;) [18:59] yeah maybe all three! [19:00] bin_bash: You do know that as long as you keep feeding that gremlin, she'll stick around ? [19:00] le sigh [19:00] what d you suggest [19:01] Actually I heard thru the grapevine that roasted was looking for a spare gremlin (he's been working his pretty hard lately). [19:01] orly [19:01] i'm using SO much RAM lol [19:03] hallo [19:03] ohao [19:04] ohI [19:04] I discovered this morning that KDE doubles my basic RAM usage (as compared to xfce, but that was to be expected), but also it adds 10 degrees C to my laptop's temp :( [19:04] I'm using 23% of my RAM [19:04] kde is the lighest DE out there guys. [19:04] totally [19:04] only unity is lighter [19:04] unity actually is lighter [19:05] LOL rly? [19:05] unity runs nice on my netbook [19:05] KDE does not [19:06] I read an article (somewhere) that stated that GNOME3/Shell basic RAM usage was even less than xfce...of course the comment ripped him a new one for his (lack of) methodology. [19:07] lol no ff uses a lot of RAM [19:08] gnome shell is java based [19:08] :/ [19:08] what [19:08] noway [19:09] :/ [19:09] sadness [19:09] unity ftw [19:09] and xfce [19:09] <3 [19:11] unity sucks [19:11] but srsly [19:11] gimme something else to open .ppt with [19:11] maybe console-based [19:11] libreoffice doesnt take my colortheme anyway [19:11] bin_bash: search on the app center [19:12] there is a standalone ppt displayer [19:12] rly? [19:12] rly [19:12] dotell [19:12] what is it [19:13] is called like powerpoint viewer [19:13] ok [19:13] :P from microsoft [19:13] ghey [19:13] i dont know if its wine dependent XD [19:14] but i installed it before installing wine, so i think not [19:14] well i have wine [19:14] :) [19:14] search it its there [19:14] like 1mb installer or something like that [19:15] bin_bash, hint: libreoffice-gtk [19:16] k [19:17] gd my intetnet is slowwwwww [19:19] * Soupermanito opinion is that libreoffice-gtk is overrated === The_Soup is now known as Soupermanito [20:01] Ever since I upgraded to 11.04, the normal splash screen is replaced with a plain-text, non-centered "Xubuntu 11.04", looks pretty ugly. How do I fix this? [20:02] when I boot up [20:02] mmm [20:02] wait, i tell you [20:02] propietary driver? [20:04] sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth [20:04] there MK`` do that [20:06] Soupermanito, Hi xDD [20:07] it's set correctly... [20:07] it's set to /lib/plymouth/themes/ubuntu-logo, but it seems to read /lib/plymouth/themes/xubuntu-text [20:07] :) hi Lamusj [20:07] maybe there is a text setting that chaged by accident [20:08] * Soupermanito shrughs, dunno lol [20:08] i could never make my plymouth work like it should [20:09] mine is soupuse to be a stargate, but it aint [20:10] hm yeah it's executing text.plymouth, not default.plymouth [20:10] need to fix that somehow [20:13] nope it doesnt work, now i get broken characters colors and stuff [20:15] Hi :) [20:15] Where should I report a bug concerning xfapplet? At xfce or launchpad? [20:18] ok I ran something, restarting [20:18] After installation on one PC only stock-market quotation can be chosen and on the other system none... [20:20] mmm [20:20] i don't know [20:20] ask on #xubuntu-devel [20:20] they might know [20:21] I changed the text setting and ran to update initramfs, and it's looking at the right text setting...hm [20:23] I'll do that. Thanks Soupermanito [20:24]