[01:01] <Cube``> how can i boot into xmonad right away, skipping login managers and the like?
[01:11] <mariontes> hi
[01:12] <mariontes> i notice something strange be for a update of my system
[01:13] <mariontes> my wireless card have lost of signal and decreace the speed past some 10 or 20 sec befor the connection
[01:26] <risd> hi all,...
[01:26] <risd> anyone got a tutorial to install canon ip1980 driver on xubuntu from tar?
[01:27] <risd> i got a problem on compiling it.,...
[01:39] <xubuntu521> bust place and no one talking?
[01:39] <xubuntu521> <-------------n00b or b00b or whatever the eff you wanna call me
[01:41] <xubuntu521> i'm such a noob that in order to mount a new sata hd i had to reinstal my os
[01:41] <xubuntu521> seriously
[01:41] <xubuntu521> awe you missed it
[01:41] <xubuntu521> had the whole crowd laughing
[01:42] <Cube``> xubuntu521: ?
[01:42] <xubuntu521> i dunno man
[01:42] <Cube``> xubuntu521: id suggest to switch your dealer
[01:42] <xubuntu521> i am tryin this linux thing out
[01:42] <Cube``> that often fixes things
[01:43] <xubuntu521> i am the dealer how am i supposed to switch
[01:43] <Cube``> drug dealer
[01:43] <xubuntu521> ya new topic
[01:43] <xubuntu521> linux
[01:43] <xubuntu521> need help man
[01:43] <Cube``> ok ya
[01:43] <Cube``> sup with the kernel
[01:44] <xubuntu521> i dunno he poppin in the microwave got the munchies
[01:44] <xubuntu521> how you know?
[01:44] <xubuntu521> nah just kiddin
[01:44] <xubuntu521> kernel fine as far as i know
[01:44] <Cube``> xdd
[01:44] <Cube``> where you from xubuntu521
[01:44] <xubuntu521> in the middle of a reinstall saw this link clicked it
[01:44] <Cube``> i assume us
[01:44] <xubuntu521> BC,Canada
[01:44] <Cube``> ooh
[01:45] <Cube``> ye
[01:45] <Cube``> what happened
[01:45] <xubuntu521> Surrey/Vancouver
[01:45] <xubuntu521> well bought a new hd
[01:45] <xubuntu521> and after reading several forums what they say was not working for me
[01:45] <Cube``> umm
[01:45] <Cube``> hds shoudl work
[01:45] <Cube``> i dont see any big problemz
[01:46] <xubuntu521> well most i read were old sayin it be hda hdb or whatever and so one then i found it be sda sdb and so on for sata
[01:47] <Cube``> ok
[01:53] <n8daddy> hello
[01:54] <n8daddy> i was the xubuntu521 guy my install finished and i reboot all by accident
[01:55] <n8daddy> hello
[01:56] <n8daddy> cube hello
[01:57] <MK``> give it a moment
[01:58] <n8daddy> you handy?
[01:59] <n8daddy> say i mounted a 500gig hd /home does that mean everything after home will be placed on the hd...so not like windows where it a seperate drive it really a seperate folder?
[01:59] <n8daddy> am a microsoft loser but since i own 3 xbox's figured i could at least take microsoft of my pc
[01:59] <n8daddy> but this linux stuff a bit confusing
[02:00] <n8daddy> * Stopping VirtualBox kernel modules                                    [ OK ]
[02:00] <n8daddy>  * Starting VirtualBox kernel modules                                            * No suitable module for running kernel found
[02:00] <n8daddy>                                                                          [fail]
[02:00] <n8daddy> also a problem i have no idea how to fix
[02:05]  * n8daddy gonna wait all day...rollin time
[02:05] <n8daddy> miss this irc thing been years....
[02:06]  * n8daddy cutting and rolling
[02:06] <n8daddy> j/k gonna light up a roach
[02:06] <n8daddy> preecher
[02:06] <n8daddy> preech to me
[02:07] <n8daddy> tell me how good linux is and how me giving it an opportunity is a great thing
[02:08] <n8daddy> and why some sites say xubuntu is really not a lightweight os like ubuntu claims
[02:08] <n8daddy> i really like it
[02:08] <n8daddy> tried ubuntu gave up with that one this xubuntu very user friendly for me i find
[02:09] <n8daddy> could really use some good reading material to get me up to par as to how to work with unix maybe one day hack the...
[02:09] <n8daddy> wait for it
[02:09] <preecher> n8daddy kinda like shoes---just try until you find a good fit
[02:09] <n8daddy> the DoD
[02:09] <n8daddy> hey somebody speaks to me
[02:10] <n8daddy> well i like the fit of this xubuntu so far has been good
[02:10] <n8daddy> so good in fact
[02:10] <n8daddy> true story
[02:11] <n8daddy> last night was all gitty with how well it was working with my external hd's with fat32 for ps3 and xbox usage with vuze and everything
[02:11] <n8daddy> got up so quickly kicked my vantec hd enclosure off the shelf all tangled in the wires
[02:11] <n8daddy> so down about 2 hours of file transfer and organization i figure ok ide hd's be cheap
[02:11] <n8daddy> right
[02:11] <n8daddy> wrong more expensive than a sat twice the size
[02:12] <n8daddy> so now here i sit at home hours ago tryin to get new sata hd out box to work with os been working with for a maybe 5 days now
[02:12] <n8daddy> read forums all say pretty much same thing
[02:13] <n8daddy> found on that update me to the new sd rather than hd still no working for me
[02:13] <n8daddy> sda sd* hda hd* thing
[02:14] <n8daddy> so i just reinstal xubuntu with usb stick (excellent feature) shows up when i type df in terminal
[02:14] <n8daddy> new hd does i mean but sayts mounted as /home
[02:14] <n8daddy> so...with it being mounted /home does that mean that everything in the directory tree should be on that new hd?
[02:16] <n8daddy> have lots of doss experience working with batch files back in the early 90's but it has been years since i have even thought about that
[02:16] <n8daddy> need something good to read i guess
[02:17] <n8daddy> maybe one day i will know all the answers and i can be quiet and sit idle on irc lol
[02:17] <n8daddy> j/k
[02:17] <n8daddy> in a good mood i understand irc such old software most you guys prolly have it open and your box been on for the past 12 years while the irc died away
[02:18] <n8daddy> and forgot to log off
[02:20] <n8daddy> well i have moved off to inactive window like all you but i'ma check back OFTEN
[02:21] <n8daddy> still nothing
[02:21] <n8daddy> please
 say i mounted a 500gig hd /home does that mean everything after home will be placed on the hd...so not like windows where it a seperate drive it really a seperate folder?
[02:22] <MK``> "after home?"
[02:23] <n8daddy> well in a directory tree
[02:23] <MK``> if it's mounted to /home, it'll put the stuff in /home.
[02:23] <n8daddy> open home then i create directory and so on inside that directory i put files
[02:23] <n8daddy> that will all be then stored on my new 500 gig right
[02:23] <MK``> Yes
[02:23] <n8daddy> excellent
[02:23] <n8daddy> windows
[02:24] <n8daddy> not like that
[02:24] <MK``> Windows's whole system dealing with partitions and drive letters is a hack job
[02:24] <MK``> at least they fixed it for mounted network locations
[02:24] <n8daddy> yes i have learned
[02:24] <n8daddy> done a lot of research ofn fat files systems
[02:25] <n8daddy> ntfs kinda fixed it but they hold all the secrets
[02:25] <n8daddy> from whati  understood when i was reading of course
[02:25] <n8daddy> i dun know shit but what internet is able to inform me of
[02:25] <MK``> But yeah Xubuntu is not super-lightweight, but definitely much better than Unity
[02:26] <MK``> Lubuntu is good if you need it to be really lightweight
[02:26] <n8daddy> ya i have always been interested in tryin linux
[02:26] <n8daddy> atholon 64 2.7ghz with 2.5gb ram and built in video that share 128mb my ram
[02:27] <n8daddy> can barely run windows but this xubuntu is quick and snappy
[02:27] <n8daddy> and very user friendly for what i have got working
[02:27] <MK``> yeah
[02:28] <n8daddy> which not much but i dun need much either
[02:29] <MK``> I don't think modern OSes use hd* anymore by the way
[02:29] <MK``> even for PATA drives
[02:29] <n8daddy> vuze, web browser, this irc when i tried, pkr through wine, and now i am just tryin this virtual box which is gibving me problems i deally like to make a usb flash drive of windows so i can install that make my 40 gig for windows in need to situaitions and 500 gig for my linux and what i need to have work all the time situaitions
[02:29] <n8daddy> ya i read that
[02:30] <MK``> http://www.resplect.com/?q=node/30 <-- ram
[02:30] <n8daddy> ya that seem about right add vuze and a 2.5mb transfer rate and you use about an extra gig
[02:31] <n8daddy> that what task manager shows on my comp
[02:32] <n8daddy> report-hw
[02:32] <n8daddy> whoops
[02:40] <pteague_laptop> hmm... getting a crash report (looking at the info from the reporting it looks like gnome services?) when i login & then my wallpaper doesn't show up & i get a weird grey border around windows... & if i drag a window around it turns the background where it's been to grey
[02:41] <n8daddy> i just started usin linux i know nothing and not many people around here
[02:41] <n8daddy> like a ghost town probably blow dust off most the names over there ----------->
[02:42] <pteague_laptop> i'm wondering if it's because i upgraded from lucid -> maverick -> natty rather than doing a fresh install
[02:43] <n8daddy> no idea i did fresh instal xubuntu from web torrent download took like 10 minutes to dl then about 15 to make usb startup disk then about 20 min for an install
[02:43] <n8daddy> and during the install you c an even come in here and chat
[02:43] <n8daddy> i thought that was pretty kewl
[02:44] <n8daddy> got any experience with virtualbox?
[02:44] <MK``> The channels are strangely inactive today
[02:44] <MK``> even the normal ubuntu one
[02:44] <MK``> I think it's all the bad weather
[02:44] <pteague_laptop> yep, it's quiet...
[02:45] <pteague_laptop> oh, didn't even think about the weather
[02:45] <n8daddy> kewl
[02:45] <n8daddy> i like vibrance maybe i become a regular
[02:45] <pteague_laptop> i've used virtualbox, but it's been a while
[02:45] <n8daddy> can be one of them lurking learners mwahaha
[02:45] <n8daddy> i can't get it working
[02:46] <pteague_laptop> what exactly can't you get to work? is it not starting up at all?
[02:46] <n8daddy> vitual hard disk
[02:47] <n8daddy> ahh
[02:47] <pteague_laptop> is that where you're using the real hard drive?
[02:47] <n8daddy> lol
[02:47] <n8daddy> get someone willin to help try and get back to the error and it works
[02:47] <n8daddy> thanks for your help
[02:49] <n8daddy> with this virtualbox i can run macosx?
[02:51] <n8daddy> how cool is that runnin a windows setup while on an irc window with a web browser open
[02:55] <MK``> heh
[02:56] <n8daddy> ok
[02:56] <n8daddy> i got a question
[02:57] <MK``> shoot
[02:57] <n8daddy> if i do a fresh windows install on my 40 gig then dual boot another linux install onto my 500 gig is there anyway i can boot the xp os while runing linux on the other drive?
[02:58] <MK``> I have no idea, I'm sure there's a way, but, no idea
[02:58] <n8daddy> ok
[02:59] <n8daddy> that what i tryin to acheive right now have xp on one drive linux on another and i read this a way to make usb bootable xp install from linux
[02:59] <n8daddy> since i dun wanna use any cd media
[02:59] <n8daddy> that would have been the simple solution burn a copy of xp install usb install linux done
[03:00] <n8daddy> now that i got this virtual box in my hand though am curious about running a windows install inside linux
[03:01] <n8daddy> pretty quick install down to 19 minutes left
[03:04] <n8daddy> woah scary got my mouse stuck in the virtualbox
[03:04] <n8daddy> lmao
[03:04] <n8daddy> some good entertainment this computer has been for a couple days
[03:05] <n8daddy> been jammin xbox and windows for years...install linux xboxes are media players and the computer gets used again
[03:06] <n8daddy> love how i can type and get shit down in linux
[03:06] <n8daddy> done
[03:06] <n8daddy> done*
[03:10] <n8daddy> funny windows runs better in virtual box then it does installed
[03:12] <n8daddy> well wtf...virtual box not flawless hehe stole my mouse but not my keyboard and now i am stuck
[03:12] <n8daddy> lucky i stuck here can someone helkp me with this one?
[03:12] <n8daddy> any over rulling keyboard commands or something
[03:12] <john_rambo> Hi ..I just finished installing Xubuntu 10.04 ...configured dsl via pppoeconf ......problem is the networka manager is writing 192.168.1.1 as dns server in /etc/resolve.conf.......I want to use my own choice of public dns    But the nm-applet is gone
[03:13] <n8daddy> told me right ctrl to get my mouse back which worked before but is not working now...it's like the window is not actually selected but my mouse thinks it is
[03:24] <MK``> D:
[03:24] <MK``> no idea
[04:29] <n8daddy> man i been hiding under a rock or sumthing
[04:30] <n8daddy> is there anything linux can't do?
[04:34] <MK``> nope
[04:34] <MK``> well, get viruses, but you can even do that if you try hard enough
[04:52] <n8daddy> huh
[04:52] <n8daddy> no viruses?
[04:53] <n8daddy> got this windows all up and running inside my box now but i can't get usb to work yet have rebooted windows so many times tryin different things then it dawned on me....boots like super quick compared to a normal install
[04:58] <zero> hi
[04:58] <Guest39420> some one
[04:59] <Guest39420> hola
[04:59] <Guest39420> mmm
[04:59] <Guest39420> hola
[04:59] <Guest39420> hello
[05:00] <Guest39420> need some help please
[05:02] <Guest39420> i have some problem whit the wireless
[05:02] <Guest39420> perfect conection but.. cant enter in a page
[05:03] <Guest39420> no one can help
[05:04] <Guest39420> ok thanks in advance
[05:04] <Guest39420> cya later
[05:25] <n8daddy> so i imagine there must be some good rpg style games for linux?
[05:54] <MK``> probably. There's also wine
[05:55] <n8daddy> uhh
[05:55] <n8daddy> you there?
[05:57] <n8daddy> just curious if there is a default password for xubuntu
[05:59] <n8daddy> when i try and use fdsik to format forums say su -
[05:59] <MK``> default password?
[05:59] <MK``> oh, root account does not have a password by default, n
[05:59] <MK``> o
[05:59] <n8daddy> then fdisk /dev/sda
[05:59] <n8daddy> su -
[05:59] <MK``> use sudo, I'd imagine?
[05:59] <n8daddy> well i get authenticaition failed
[06:00] <MK``> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[06:00] <n8daddy> and if i log in with one i created i don't have enough permissions
[06:03] <n8daddy> ok i read that now thanks
[06:05] <n8daddy> ahhh excellent mk thank you very much for the info
[06:05] <n8daddy> much more of an understanding as to what i am doing at the terminal level
[06:05] <MK``> yeah
[06:05] <MK``> sudo is your friend
[06:06] <n8daddy> i see said the blind man to his def dog as he pissed towards the wind...it all comes back to me hehe
[06:06] <MK``> heh
[06:07] <n8daddy> ya totally i just had no idea as to why they were asking for shit to be like this and mine not working
[06:07] <n8daddy> but now i get it
[06:07] <n8daddy> especially when i know the only password i entered into the thing and it still sayin wrong password
[06:51] <n8daddy> omg i give up to many hours with the same problem
[06:52] <n8daddy> gonna break down and buy myself a burnable c d tomorrow
[06:52] <n8daddy> lol
[07:40] <jarnos> If I upgrade to 11.04 via Update Manager, can it utilize the Alternate installation image installed in an USB stick?
[07:43] <MK``> You can try, adding that as a software source first
[07:43] <tsimpson> or start the upgrade from the loop-mounted ISO
[07:44] <Unit193> jarnos: Scroll down in this wiki for more info: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NattyUpgrades
[07:45] <MK``> Wish I knew that before taking 3 hours to upgrade today
[08:01] <jarnos> Thanks,
[08:02] <jarnos> Unit193, I wonder, if you can run cdromupgrade from bootable USB stick made of the alternate iso?
[08:03] <Unit193> jarnos: I have never done so, but I would guess you could
[08:04] <n8daddy> anyeasy way to make a windows usb install from linux?
[08:04] <jarnos> What about packages that are not contained in the image, but I have installed in my Maverick system? Can you upgrade them later using network?
[08:05] <n8daddy> or any experience makin usb work  in virtual box on windows
[08:14] <risd> can anyone help my installing my canon printer on xubuntu 64bit?
[08:27] <zero> hi
[08:27] <Guest4445> mmm
[08:41] <n8daddy> hooooowwwwwwllllllll
[09:35] <balvonas> hi
[09:36] <balvonas> does anyone experiencing the same problem? [72536.439871] xfce4-xkb-plugi[14963]: segfault at 7470616c ip 00509203 sp bfd2711c error 4 in libc-2.13.so[494000+15a000]
[09:39] <JoeR1> I have foud success
[09:40] <JoeR1> is anyone out there?
[10:59] <n8daddy> any easy way to change external hd label?
[11:00] <Sysi> gparted
[11:19] <Cube``> whats the default xubunut login manager?
[11:20] <ochosi> Cube``: gdm
[11:23] <Cube``> ok thx
[11:53] <four2zero> thank you sysi
[11:54] <four2zero> was n8daddy b4 with the volume label question
[11:55]  * four2zero was n8daddy b4 with the volume label question
[11:59] <TheSheep> !u
[13:11] <cousin_mario> hello
[13:11] <cousin_mario> is there a shortcut for changing the fontsize inside a terminal?
[13:12] <TheSheep> no
[13:18] <cousin_mario> TheSheep: Any alternate terminal you would recommend?
[13:30] <TheSheep> no, I'm happy with the defaut
[13:30] <TheSheep> default
[13:35] <cousin_mario> That's the only thing stopping me from switching to it.
[17:44] <roasted> IS it normal to select shut down while logged in and it takes me to the login screen?
[17:45] <drc> roasted: bug (iirc)
[17:45] <drc> It is hit and miss for me...I never know which one I'
[17:46] <drc> ll get (shutdown or login).
[17:46] <roasted> o boy
[17:46] <drc> I'm looking for the bug report....
[17:46] <charlie-tca> That is a bug as noted in the release notes for Xubuntu 11.04. A good, valid workaround is to logout, then restart or shutdown from the GDM screen, using the icon in the bottom
[17:47] <roasted> thats what Ive been doing
[17:47] <roasted> simple workaround
[17:47] <roasted> just made me wonder if it was intentional, somehow
[17:48] <charlie-tca> It is not normal, I only experience using my intel video system
[17:48] <charlie-tca> My system with Nvidia does not do it more than once in maybe 100 shutdowns
[17:48] <drc> And my nvidia system (as I said, hit and miss)
[17:48] <roasted> I also noticed on my desktop, which is Ubuntu 11.04 + XFCE (just like my two laptops) that it always defaults to Ubuntu. always. IT wont default to Xubuntu Desktop, even though that was the last DE I used.
[17:49] <roasted> While my 2 laptops come up as Xubuntu Desktop EACH time since that's what I last used.
[17:49] <charlie-tca> Did you install Xfce or xubuntu-desktop?
[17:49] <roasted> Xubuntu Desktop
[17:49] <charlie-tca> That would be a bug then. It should always default to the last session used
[17:50] <Sysi> iirc you can specify manually what session to use by default
[17:50] <roasted> Sysi, would you know how to do that, by chance?
[17:50] <Sysi> system → login screen
[17:50] <roasted> hey off topic. have any of you guys used puppet?
[17:51] <charlie-tca> I have used puppets to help teach my grandsons ;-)
[17:51] <drc> I had the same problem when I partitioned for a testing partition...Grub2 would not "use" any changes to the config file. I solved it by re-installing grub2 (according to the wiki) and it mgically solved itself.
[17:51] <charlie-tca> That is not uncommon
[17:51] <roasted> charlie-tca, have you heard of puppet?
[17:52] <charlie-tca> hand or marionettes?
[17:52] <roasted> the program
[17:52] <roasted> for linux
[17:52] <roasted> its a system administrator's appication
[17:52] <charlie-tca> no, I don't think so
[17:52] <roasted> supposedly you can control all linux systems on the network. every 30 mins or so they check in to receive new instructions
[17:52] <roasted> so I can say at 1130 install gparted or something, etc.
[17:52] <charlie-tca> I don't have enough systems to bother with that
[17:52]  * drc can see roasted's questions for tomorrow :)
[17:53] <roasted> charlie-tca, we have 2,000. :)
[17:53] <roasted> were not on linux tho
[17:53] <roasted> not yet :D
[17:54] <charlie-tca> We will have to refer roasted to #ubuntu-server when it gets too much for us
[17:54] <roasted> I might be headed there right now actually
[17:54] <roasted> I'm trying to find someone who's used it so I can just kinda bum ideas around with
[17:54] <roasted> instead of the #ubuntu chat which wants you to ask very direct and specific questions
[17:54] <charlie-tca> They might know, or #edubuntu, would be another possiblility
[17:54] <roasted> I want to have a starbucks conversation about puppet. ya know? Sit around and just kinda yack about it and learn from each other.
[17:57] <coldpizza72i> whats the best newb-proof program to backup and restore a drive's image?
[17:57] <charlie-tca> deja-dup
[17:58] <coldpizza72i> thanks, it looks good
[17:58] <charlie-tca> It even automatically encrypts the backup. There is an option to turn the encryption off too
[17:59] <coldpizza72i> im setting this up for my mom so she can restore her windows partition every time she messes it up lol
[17:59] <charlie-tca> Then turn off encryption so it doesn't ask for passphrases
[17:59] <coldpizza72i> yea i will
[18:50] <bin_bash> when i try to open a .ppt with libreoffice impress i get the error: "version incompatibility. Incorrect FIle Version"
[18:52] <bin_bash> I opened one from the same class yesteray so idk
[18:58] <drc> bin_bash: Maybe it was created on a different machine, with a different version...or maybe it's just your bad luck gremlin at work again ;)
[18:59] <bin_bash> yeah maybe all three!
[19:00] <drc> bin_bash: You do know that as long as you keep feeding that gremlin, she'll stick around ?
[19:00] <bin_bash> le sigh
[19:00] <bin_bash> what d you suggest
[19:01] <drc> Actually I heard thru the grapevine that roasted was looking for a spare gremlin (he's been working his pretty hard lately).
[19:01] <bin_bash> orly
[19:01] <bin_bash> i'm using SO much RAM lol
[19:03] <roasted> hallo
[19:03] <bin_bash> ohao
[19:04] <bin_bash> ohI
[19:04] <drc> I discovered this morning that KDE doubles my basic RAM usage (as compared to xfce, but that was to be expected), but also it adds 10 degrees C to my laptop's temp :(
[19:04] <bin_bash> I'm using 23% of my RAM
[19:04] <roasted> kde is the lighest DE out there guys.
[19:04] <bin_bash> totally
[19:04] <bin_bash> only unity is lighter
[19:04] <roasted> unity actually is lighter
[19:05] <bin_bash> LOL rly?
[19:05] <roasted> unity runs nice on my netbook
[19:05] <roasted> KDE does not
[19:06] <drc> I read an article (somewhere) that stated that GNOME3/Shell basic RAM usage was even less than xfce...of course the comment ripped him a new one for his (lack of) methodology.
[19:07] <bin_bash> lol no ff uses a lot of RAM
[19:08] <roasted> gnome shell is java based
[19:08] <roasted> :/
[19:08] <bin_bash> what
[19:08] <bin_bash> noway
[19:09] <roasted> :/
[19:09] <bin_bash> sadness
[19:09] <roasted> unity ftw
[19:09] <roasted> and xfce
[19:09] <roasted> <3
[19:11] <bin_bash> unity sucks
[19:11] <bin_bash> but srsly
[19:11] <bin_bash> gimme something else to open .ppt with
[19:11] <bin_bash> maybe console-based
[19:11] <bin_bash> libreoffice doesnt take my colortheme anyway
[19:11] <Soupermanito> bin_bash: search on the app center
[19:12] <Soupermanito> there is a standalone ppt displayer
[19:12] <bin_bash> rly?
[19:12] <Soupermanito> rly
[19:12] <bin_bash> dotell
[19:12] <bin_bash> what is it
[19:13] <Soupermanito> is called like powerpoint viewer
[19:13] <bin_bash> ok
[19:13] <Soupermanito> :P from microsoft
[19:13] <bin_bash> ghey
[19:13] <Soupermanito> i dont know if its wine dependent XD
[19:14] <Soupermanito> but i installed it before installing wine, so i think not
[19:14] <bin_bash> well i have wine
[19:14] <Soupermanito> :)
[19:14] <Soupermanito> search it its there
[19:14] <Soupermanito> like 1mb installer or something like that
[19:15] <Sysi> bin_bash, hint: libreoffice-gtk
[19:16] <bin_bash> k
[19:17] <bin_bash> gd my intetnet is slowwwwww
[19:19]  * Soupermanito opinion is that libreoffice-gtk is overrated
[20:01] <MK``> Ever since I upgraded to 11.04, the normal splash screen is replaced with a plain-text, non-centered "Xubuntu 11.04", looks pretty ugly. How do I fix this?
[20:02] <MK``> when I boot up
[20:02] <Soupermanito> mmm
[20:02] <Soupermanito> wait, i tell you
[20:02] <Sysi> propietary driver?
[20:04] <Soupermanito> sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth
[20:04] <Soupermanito> there MK`` do that
[20:06] <Lamusj> Soupermanito, Hi xDD
[20:07] <MK``> it's set correctly...
[20:07] <MK``> it's set to /lib/plymouth/themes/ubuntu-logo, but it seems to read /lib/plymouth/themes/xubuntu-text
[20:07] <Soupermanito> :) hi Lamusj
[20:07] <MK``> maybe there is a text setting that chaged by accident
[20:08]  * Soupermanito shrughs, dunno lol
[20:08] <Soupermanito> i could never make my plymouth work like it should
[20:09] <Soupermanito> mine is soupuse to be a stargate, but it aint
[20:10] <MK``> hm yeah it's executing text.plymouth, not default.plymouth
[20:10] <MK``> need to fix that somehow
[20:13] <Soupermanito> nope it doesnt work, now i get broken characters colors and stuff
[20:15] <foobar> Hi :)
[20:15] <foobar> Where should I report a bug concerning xfapplet? At xfce or launchpad?
[20:18] <MK``> ok I ran something, restarting
[20:18] <foobar> After installation on one PC only stock-market quotation can be chosen and on the other system none...
[20:20] <Soupermanito> mmm
[20:20] <Soupermanito> i don't know
[20:20] <Soupermanito> ask on #xubuntu-devel
[20:20] <Soupermanito> they might know
[20:21] <MK``> I changed the text setting and ran to update initramfs, and it's looking at the right text setting...hm
[20:23] <foobar> I'll do that. Thanks Soupermanito
[20:24] <foobar> cu
[20:40] <dirtycookie_> hello people
[20:41] <dirtycookie_> i need help
[20:41] <dirtycookie_> i have an eeePC
[20:41] <dirtycookie_> and installed xubuntu without any problem
[20:41] <dirtycookie_> but i cannot mount my sdcard
[20:42] <Soupermanito> dirtycookie_, :) we will try to help, but please try no to use the enter key as punctuation mark
[20:42] <dirtycookie_> ??
[20:42] <Unit193> !ask | dirtycookie_
[20:42] <dirtycookie_> ah ok
[20:42] <dirtycookie_> sry
[20:43] <Sysi> dirtycookie_: what eee model?
[20:43] <Soupermanito> :) not a problem
[20:43] <dirtycookie_> model is a 4g and the device node when inserting the sd card it gets attached to sdc
[20:45] <dirtycookie_> here is the dmesg http://pastebin.com/r5Hpb2Ff
[20:47] <Soupermanito> dirtycookie_, can we see your fstab please?
[20:50] <dirtycookie_> sure
[20:50] <dirtycookie_> http://pastebin.com/GgKFBBDL
[20:51] <Soupermanito> you installed 11.04 correct?
[20:51] <dirtycookie_> Soupermanito: yes
[20:51] <Soupermanito> :) ok, let me investigate and see if i can find something to help you
[20:51] <dirtycookie_> Soupermanito: :) thank you
[20:53] <Soupermanito> dirtycookie_, http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?id=44013
[20:53] <dirtycookie_> Soupermanito: if that would help u, when i insert the sdcard, which has been formated by a windows machine. and when entering "mount /dev/sdc /media/sd" into the console, it hangs
[20:53] <Soupermanito> tried this?
[20:54] <dirtycookie_> ONLY when taking the card out, would make my console responsive again
[20:54] <Soupermanito> i see
[20:54] <Soupermanito> tried other card?
[20:54] <dirtycookie_> Soupermanito: tried what?
[20:55] <Soupermanito> if you tried mounting another sdcard?
[20:56] <dirtycookie_> Soupermanito: well i have an usb sd cardreader and xubuntu was able to automatically mount the card and appeared on the desktop.
[20:56] <dirtycookie_> Soupermanito: i have only one card
[20:57] <Soupermanito> okay, so readed the link i pasted you? it gives an option to add stuff on fstab that should work apparently
[20:57] <dirtycookie_> Soupermanito: where? send it again please
[20:57] <Soupermanito> http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?id=44013
[20:58] <Soupermanito> this particular one http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?pid=379801#p379801
[20:58] <dirtycookie_> Soupermanito: ill try and give you feedback
[21:04] <dirtycookie_> Soupermanito: ok ill reboot and come online
[21:05] <Soupermanito> :=
[21:26] <linuxman410> does anyone know why unity was included in xubuntu 11.04
[21:29] <Sysi> it isn't, xubuntu uses xfce :p
[21:30] <Sysi> canonical wanted unity to ubuntu
[21:31] <linuxman410> but it says stuff about unity when i boot up with live cd
[21:31] <Sysi> hum, where?
[21:31] <linuxman410> right as the desktop comes up
[21:41] <drc> linuxman410: I remember seeing something like that also...I *think* it's just an oversight from using the basic Ubuntu install slideshow
[21:42] <linuxman410> drc so its not really in there right
[21:43] <drc> Unity is not included in Xubuntu (I know that:)...I Think it was just some text that mentioned Unity...I
[21:44] <drc> m going to re-install Xubuntu 11.04 to my spare partition and pay close attention this time.  Back in a bit
[21:55] <drc> I must have been wrong, I couldn't find the Unity mention in the Xubuntu install, although I thought I saw something like that a while back.  They do say the memory is the second thing to go....
[21:56] <linuxman410> drc why does xubuntu have icons at bottom now
[21:57] <Soupermanito> linuxman410, because someone though it would look pretty that way
[21:57] <drc> 1) To simulate a dock; 2) To confuse one by hiding; 3) It looks pretty.
[21:57] <drc> linuxman410: It's panel 2, if you don't like it, delete it (but you can never get it back)
[21:58] <Soupermanito> also thats how the OSX dock looks like i guess, i never found it at bottom to be a proper way, i like my docks to be on top, but thats me
[21:58] <linuxman410> xubuntu stoppedsupporting my intel video at 10.04
[21:59] <drc> linuxman410: update the hardware...really, if they stop support a piece of hardware, it's usually really old (on not used by many people)
[22:01] <linuxman410> drc the intel video is on a pentium 4 2.5 computer
[22:02] <drc> Contact a museum :)
[22:02] <linuxman410> i am running lubuntu on it
[22:03] <drc> That's what lubuntu is for.
[22:04] <Soupermanito> also if you installed lubuntu, then lubuntu stoped supporting, not xubu
[22:04] <drc> It's sort of replaced xfce as the "lightweight" Ubuntu-based distro. Hope they "official" status soon, they are doing good things.
[22:05] <linuxman410> drc i thought the whole concept behind linux was to be able to use your old hardware
[22:05] <Soupermanito> thats pretty much not true
[22:05] <drc> Where did you hear that?
[22:05] <Soupermanito> the whole concept behind linux is that other poeple care about other people
[22:06] <Soupermanito> thats opensource for you, old hardware support aint
[22:06] <linuxman410> well if that is not true then linux is like windows buy a new computer everytime a new version comes out
[22:06] <Soupermanito> not true
[22:07] <Soupermanito> given that people care enough about other people, some support to old hardware is always given, if people who do the sofware think is worth its time
[22:08] <linuxman410> to me a pentium 4 2.5 is not old
[22:08] <Soupermanito> that might not be, but you could consider using a newer vpu
[22:08] <Soupermanito> gpu
[22:28] <jarnos> My 11.04 is broken, first it didn't let me reboot since session was busy or something, and after it finally reboted, desktop environment is seriously broken.
[22:28] <Soupermanito> mmm
[22:28] <Soupermanito> did you upgraded ?
[22:28] <jarnos> yes
[22:29] <Soupermanito> yeah, upgrades can be like that
[22:29] <Soupermanito> first take a deep breath
[22:29] <Soupermanito> and then lets fix things
[22:32] <jarnos> Soupermanito, yes, I will sleep until morning.
[22:32] <Soupermanito> XD
[22:33] <Soupermanito> ok, comeback later and ask again then :D
[22:57] <PipeToDevNull> So.  Just switched my DE from Gnome to XFCE by way of xubuntu.  Liking it a lot; question, though - is there any way to configure a panel, so it won't move, but isn't in one of the pre-set positions?
[22:57] <nicofs> I can't connect to WLAN anymore. Ally I get is "Bad password." On three different computers with different cards - in three independent networks. Where can I start troubleshooting?
[22:59] <charlie-tca> by unlocking the panel, you can put it anywhere on the desktop
[23:00] <charlie-tca> PipeToDevNull: right-click the panel, panel, properties
[23:00] <PipeToDevNull> I'm trying to lock it into the position I drop it at afterward. >.>
[23:00] <charlie-tca> uncheck the lock, move it anywhere
[23:02] <charlie-tca> You can not do it by using move
[23:03] <charlie-tca> after unlocking, click on either end where there are a bunch of dots, and move it by holding down the left-button
[23:05] <PipeToDevNull> :/ Guess I'll just have to be careful not to accidentally drag it about.
[23:05] <charlie-tca> after moving it, you should be able to check the lock again
[23:06] <charlie-tca> Then it will stay, even in the middle of the screen
[23:06] <PipeToDevNull> Hrm.  That's in XFCE 4.8, I'm betting?
[23:07] <charlie-tca> You do have to make sure it is the right panel, though. I played with one for two days before I figured out it was the pnel 2
[23:07] <charlie-tca> yup
[23:07] <charlie-tca> 4.8, yes, which is Xubuntu 11.04
[23:07] <PipeToDevNull> That might be the issue.  I'm in 10.04 lts, and it looks like that stopped at 4.4
[23:07] <charlie-tca> oh, yeah
[23:08] <charlie-tca> I think you are limited to top or bottom
[23:08] <charlie-tca> left or right, too, if you go vertical
[23:08] <PipeToDevNull> Looks that way.  Shame.
[23:09] <PipeToDevNull> I'm not terribly apt to upgrade my full distro just so I can make sure a panel stays where I plop it.
[23:10] <charlie-tca> yeah, it isn't worth that
[23:10] <PipeToDevNull> (Even if it would let me avoid my chief issue with 11.04.  Stupid unity...)
[23:11] <charlie-tca> unity doesn't affect Xubuntu yet
[23:12] <PipeToDevNull> I'd hope not.  Would be kinda' silly, given the main idea behind xubuntu is xfce.
[23:38] <nicofs> How can I access a shared folder in my network? (sharen from a ubuntu machine via default share menu from nautilus)?
[23:38] <nicofs> *shared
[23:39] <charlie-tca> should be able to do it using thunar in 11.04, gigolo in 10.10 or less
[23:39] <nicofs> charlie-tca, how?
[23:39] <charlie-tca> in 11.04, just navigate to the folder
[23:40] <charlie-tca> I use mount points in /mnt for my shared folders, and use ssh-fuse to access them
[23:40] <nicofs> charlie-tca, where should i look for it? "network" only has "Windows Network" which has nothing to display...
[23:40] <charlie-tca> where is your mount point?
[23:40] <nicofs> erm... what mount point?
[23:41] <nicofs> i had somehow hoped to not have to do anything other than point and click...
[23:41] <charlie-tca> not possible in Xubuntu. Ubuntu does that for you, though
[23:41] <nicofs> ok - so i'd better just install nautilus...
[23:41] <charlie-tca> You set things up in Xubuntu and Xfce.
[23:55] <four2zero> i am falling in love with linux as an os
[23:55] <four2zero> i do not see myself ever goin back to ms except as a dual boot for need to situaitions