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| jussi | apachelogger: ping | 08:18 |
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| apachelogger | jussi: pongo | 10:35 |
| jussi | apachelogger: pm | 10:35 |
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| Riddell | rbelem: ping | 12:41 |
| Riddell | or anyone who has spoked to rbelem about pandaboards: ping | 12:41 |
| sheytan | Riddell got ya :D | 12:43 |
| sheytan | hey dude. Remember my ubuquity slideshow mockup? | 12:44 |
| Riddell | sheytan: I do | 12:44 |
| sheytan | Riddell want to implement it? | 12:44 |
| sheytan | or atleast add as "todo" ? :) | 12:44 |
| Riddell | sheytan: I'm afraid I'm not working on Kubuntu this cycle | 12:47 |
| Riddell | we have an installer section on the todo and it can be added there https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo#Installer | 12:47 |
| sheytan | Riddell oh, why? | 12:47 |
| Riddell | sheytan: just felt the need for a change for a while, variety being the spice of life | 12:48 |
| Riddell | don't worry, I'll be back in a few months :) | 12:48 |
| Riddell | but edit the todo here if you want https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo/Oneiric | 12:48 |
| sheytan | Riddell i can't edit it without login. Could you do that for me? here's the mockup: http://madsheytan.blogspot.com/2011/03/instalator-kubuntu-pokaz-slajdow-mockup.html | 12:50 |
| sheytan | I'm only looking for a developer ;) | 12:50 |
| Riddell | you don't have a launchpad login? | 12:51 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: do you know why the installer notes never turned into todo items? | 12:53 |
| Riddell | sheytan: I've added it to the installer session notes, I'm not sure why none of the other items are on the todo http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-o/meeting/desktop-o-kubuntu-installer/ | 12:54 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: because neither maco nor afiestas created them | 12:54 |
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| apachelogger | despite poking | 12:54 |
| * apachelogger needs a poke bot perhaps | 12:54 | |
| sheytan | Riddell Thank you :) Hope someone will code it :) | 12:56 |
| sheytan | Some gnomes told me that apachelogger might do that ^^ :D | 12:56 |
| apachelogger | lolwut? | 12:56 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: what is with the pandas? | 12:57 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: well I'm not sure, I believe rbelem has been poking canonical folk to get some and canonical folk are asking me who wants them | 12:57 |
| sheytan | apachelogger you're the master of code :D And implementing my idea into the installer would be both, awesome and easy (i guess) :D | 12:57 |
| Riddell | few things in coding are easy I'm afraid | 12:58 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: rbelem and me I suppose ... though shadeslayer also expressed interest in working on omap4 ... no idea if he'd see such a project through to actual working stuff | 12:59 |
| jussi | Riddell: ooh cool. We just made a couple of freescale boards happen for apachelogger and Quintasan. | 12:59 |
| apachelogger | sheytan: what idea? | 12:59 |
| sheytan | apachelogger http://madsheytan.blogspot.com/2011/03/instalator-kubuntu-pokaz-slajdow-mockup.html | 12:59 |
| Riddell | jussi: we did? who's we? | 12:59 |
| apachelogger | the crew :P | 12:59 |
| jussi | Riddell: persia, with my assistance | 12:59 |
| jussi | persia: paid, I organised. | 12:59 |
| * apachelogger thinks sheytan should know that apachelogger is not the person to talk to about python code | 13:00 | |
| jussi | apachelogger: rofl | 13:00 |
| sheytan | apachelogger is kubu installer written in python? | 13:00 |
| sheytan | damn | 13:00 |
| Riddell | PyKDE | 13:00 |
| sheytan | that sucks | 13:00 |
| Riddell | Python rocks! | 13:00 |
| sheytan | who's developing the installer anyway? | 13:01 |
| apachelogger | maco suggested interest IIRC | 13:01 |
| Riddell | sheytan: well nobody currently, that's the problem | 13:04 |
| sheytan | crap ;/ | 13:05 |
| Riddell | I think maco is mostly interested in ensuring accessibility is supported in it (it has a few custom widgets) | 13:05 |
| Riddell | maybe she'll do that and get hooked on to the fun of coding PyKDE! | 13:05 |
| Riddell | sheytan: added todo items to https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | 13:05 |
| sheytan | maco please ping me if you can | 13:05 |
| sheytan | Riddell thank you :) | 13:05 |
| sheytan | i'll talk to maco :) | 13:05 |
| sheytan | Riddell the help.kubuntu.org isn't needed. We have Support section on the new web page. | 13:06 |
| Riddell | sheytan: talk to DarkwingDuck about that | 13:06 |
| sheytan | Ofir doesn't have time now, so i'll finish it with DarkwingDuck :) | 13:06 |
| sheytan | Yes :D | 13:07 |
| * sheytan hopes the new printer kcm and notifications come with 11.10 | 13:08 | |
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| maco | sheytan: hello | 13:11 |
| maco | Riddell: ive used pykde before :P | 13:11 |
| Riddell | right, so you know how much fun it is! :) | 13:11 |
| sheytan | maco heeeey :) I have a perfect job for you which will make you proud of helping Kubuntu :) | 13:12 |
| jussi | How does one see the updates history? | 13:14 |
| maco | jussi: /var/log/apt/term.log | 13:19 |
| jussi | maco: thanks | 13:19 |
| jussi | has anyone else had skype suddenly stop working for them in the last few days? | 13:21 |
| jussi | jussi@squirrel:~$ skype | 13:22 |
| jussi | Aborted | 13:22 |
| maco | jussi: nah, skype stopped working for me a year ago....suddenly even preloading v4lcompat doesnt let it talk to v4l2 webcams | 13:22 |
| jussi | could either of these have anything to do with skype not working? | 13:24 |
| jussi | Setting up glib-networking (2.28.6.1-0ubuntu1) ... | 13:24 |
| jussi | Setting up libapr1 (1.4.2-7ubuntu2.1) ... | 13:24 |
| debfx | ScottK: turns out that I do have a gpg signature from a DD | 13:25 |
| ScottK | debfx: Excellent. | 13:25 |
| Sput | http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/26/skype-goes-down-globally-investigation-underway/ | 13:25 |
| Sput | OHAI Microsoft | 13:25 |
| Sput | , jussi | 13:25 |
| Sput | :) | 13:25 |
| jussi | Sput: thanks... | 13:26 |
| jussi | MS .... | 13:26 |
| jussi | Sput: btw, GET BACK TO YOUR THESIS! :D | 13:27 |
| jussi | heh | 13:29 |
| jussi | renaming .Skype fixes said issue. | 13:29 |
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| apachelogger | Nightrose: thanks for the feedback | 13:52 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: btw, I has no a team channel ... apparently my team of awesome does not have time to join | 13:52 |
| apachelogger | s/no/now/ | 13:53 |
| kubotu | apachelogger meant: "Nightrose: btw, I has now a team channel ... apparently my team of awesome does not have time to join" | 13:53 |
| apachelogger | kubotu: smart bot | 13:53 |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: -.- | 13:54 |
| Nightrose | not awesome | 13:54 |
| Nightrose | not at all | 13:54 |
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| Hobbsee | apachelogger: BOO! | 14:26 |
| apachelogger | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGuU3D_t_Ds | 14:27 |
| txwikinger | ScottK: the new ntrack did not fix the problem | 14:29 |
| apachelogger | txwikinger: what be the problem? | 14:36 |
| txwikinger | apachelogger: kded4 is spawning always losts of defuncts | 14:36 |
| txwikinger | lots | 14:37 |
| txwikinger | It has either to do with going in and out of sleep mode, and/or chaning wireless networs | 14:37 |
| apachelogger | txwikinger: spawn defuncts? | 14:43 |
| txwikinger | well.. it guess its spawns child processes that are not closed properly and hence end up to be shown as "defunc" | 14:44 |
| txwikinger | I guess | 14:44 |
| apachelogger | :O | 14:44 |
| apachelogger | txwikinger: kdebugdialog -> select all, then: killall -9 kded4 ; sleep2 ; kded4 &> log | 14:45 |
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| apachelogger | try to trigger the issue and send me the log | 14:45 |
| txwikinger | apachelogger: ok I will do | 14:45 |
| apachelogger | txwikinger: bug 515138 perhaps? | 14:46 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 515138 in kdelibs "kded4 (lucid, amd64) defunct on latop" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/515138 | 14:46 |
| txwikinger | Not sure.. I reported it in maverick on kde bugs | 14:47 |
| apachelogger | JontheEchidna: you should like fix this ^ :P | 14:47 |
| txwikinger | natty is actually worse than maverick | 14:47 |
| ryrych | hi | 14:49 |
| ryrych | apachelogger: I figured out what was wrong: I don’t have the write access to phonon web site repository as ssh kde info points out; do you know if I can catch here any admin? :) | 14:50 |
| apachelogger | ryrych: #kde-sysadmin | 14:50 |
| ryrych | apachelogger: thx | 14:50 |
| txwikinger | apachelogger: The child processes do not seem to appear in the log | 14:53 |
| apachelogger | txwikinger: killall -9 kded4 ; sleep 2; streace -ff -F -o kded.strace kded4 | 14:55 |
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| shadeslayer | apachelogger: Riddell i'm definitely interested in OMAP4 ... i'm thinking on focusing on ARM for the next year | 15:27 |
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| ryrych | apachelogger: so sneap-peak for you :D http://ryrych.pl/null/phonon/ | 15:46 |
| ryrych | stopwatch and dots as navigation | 15:46 |
| apachelogger | the progress bar at the top is a bit weird IMHO | 15:46 |
| apachelogger | very distracting | 15:47 |
| apachelogger | I like the dots though :D | 15:47 |
| ryrych | hm, I like it but think out it :D | 15:49 |
| rbelem | hi Riddell | 15:51 |
| rbelem | :-) | 15:51 |
| rbelem | sorry for the late ping back | 15:52 |
| Riddell | hi rbelem | 15:52 |
| Riddell | have you been talking to kiko? | 15:52 |
| rbelem | Riddell, yup | 15:52 |
| Riddell | groovy, who did you have in mind for pandaboards? | 15:52 |
| rbelem | Riddell, three for plasma-active guys and two for kubuntu | 15:53 |
| rbelem | :-) | 15:53 |
| rbelem | i just saw your email :-) | 15:53 |
| Riddell | rbelem: do you have specific people in mind? | 15:53 |
| rbelem | Riddell, aseigo knows who will get the boards | 15:54 |
| Riddell | rbelem: ok, and for Kubuntu? | 15:55 |
| rbelem | Riddell, apachelogger and me | 15:55 |
| Riddell | ok I need postal addresses for you and apachelogger then | 15:56 |
| Riddell | rbelem, apachelogger: can you e-mail me your postal address | 15:56 |
| rbelem | oki :-) | 15:57 |
| apachelogger | sent | 15:57 |
| rbelem | Riddell, i will ask aseigo to send the adresses to you :-) | 15:57 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: lol ... i got my package :P | 15:58 |
| shadeslayer | googlez didn't forget me | 15:58 |
| shadeslayer | :D | 15:58 |
| apachelogger | I did not :( | 15:59 |
| apachelogger | carol, y u forget me! | 15:59 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: so apparently mails travel faster to india ... :> | 16:00 |
| apachelogger | well, from a logistics POV I'd say they do not send all the stuff at once :P | 16:01 |
| shadeslayer | hehe | 16:03 |
| shadeslayer | probably | 16:03 |
| maco | Riddell: the KC is sposed to approve the specs right? TheMuso says feature definition is soon, but KC election is going on so how do we get them approved? | 16:07 |
| rbelem | Riddell, mail sent :-) | 16:08 |
| Riddell | maco: with the existing KC | 16:10 |
| maco | Riddell: is there gonna be a meeting or something? | 16:10 |
| Riddell | maco: one should be organised | 16:11 |
| Riddell | Sput: I've been using Quassel for the last couple of weeks, working well | 16:12 |
| Riddell | Sput: a couple of issues, I find it strange that when someone /msg's me it appears in the left tree in the same colour as if there's background chat in a channel, I think it should be the same as if someone highlights me on a channel | 16:13 |
| Riddell | also I'm not clear when walk away from a network then walk back into range again if or when quassel will reconnect | 16:13 |
| maco | i dont think it will | 16:13 |
| maco | it takes a few minutes to timeout and realise no really theres no network activity | 16:14 |
| maco | oh wait that depends on setting | 16:14 |
| maco | you can set a hardcoded timeout | 16:14 |
| maco | i had to go to "never time out actively" though because it was timing out on downloading backlog from the quassel core (which takes about 5 minutes) | 16:14 |
| yofel | well, the solid integration worked somewhat well for me, so it connected whenever KNM said it got a connection | 16:16 |
| shadeslayer | ^^ yep | 16:18 |
| ScottK | txwikinger: OK. Sorry. Different issue. | 16:21 |
| Sput | Riddell: can't really discuss very well now since I'm on a train, but the connection between client and core can be set to obey KDE's network status | 16:22 |
| txwikinger | ScottK: :) | 16:22 |
| Sput | the connection between core and IRC is timeout-based though (unless the socket closes, but that is not always the case with a shaky connection) | 16:22 |
| Sput | if you have the core somewhere safe, and you want the client to reconnect, it's best to enable the use of KDE's Solid, which in turn is tied to NetworkManager | 16:23 |
| Riddell | Sput: I have the monolithic setup | 16:23 |
| Sput | mhm | 16:25 |
| Sput | then there's configurable timeouts | 16:25 |
| KRF | could someone comment on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amarok/+bug/786192 - especially why the SVG file's content is changed in kubuntu's amarok package? | 16:26 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 786192 in amarok (Ubuntu) "Wrong rendering of some elements of interface" [Undecided,New] | 16:26 |
| Sput | I was thinking about adding solid integration for that part as well, but that's surprisingly non-trivial as the core has no KDE integration (and not even GUI support), architecturally :) | 16:26 |
| Sput | one could probably do a hack specifically for monolithic | 16:26 |
| apachelogger | KRF: because the upstream artwork sux | 16:27 |
| Riddell | Sput: it could talk raw dbus I guess but yeah not easy | 16:27 |
| KRF | apachelogger: now it sucks even more, though. see attached screenshot | 16:27 |
| apachelogger | nono, it is better :P | 16:27 |
| * apachelogger actually wonders where there change is coming from for real | 16:27 | |
| Sput | Riddell: dbus is not an acceptable dep on a server :) | 16:28 |
| Riddell | fussy server people :) | 16:28 |
| KRF | apachelogger: looks like someone opened the svg with another editor before packaging? also the SVG's XML layout changed | 16:28 |
| Sput | technically, the monolithic version is really just the core and the client lumped in one binary connected by an internal socket... but I assume we could add some special accessor | 16:29 |
| Sput | (that is, if someone has the time to do it; I'll still be very busy with $thesis for the next several months) | 16:29 |
| apachelogger | kubotu: order a minion for Sput | 16:30 |
| * kubotu slides a minion down the bar to Sput | 16:30 | |
| KRF | apachelogger: ah, someone used adobeillustrator and destroyed the color schemes :P | 16:30 |
| shadeslayer | @_@ | 16:30 |
| apachelogger | KRF: unlikely, then dpkg would have created a patch for it | 16:30 |
| apachelogger | there is no way to sneak changes into modern packages without triggering a patch creation | 16:31 |
| apachelogger | unless someone tempered with the tar | 16:31 |
| apachelogger | KRF: do you have a 2.4.1 tar lying around? | 16:31 |
| KRF | apachelogger: nope | 16:31 |
| Sput | Riddell: I do have to wonder though, doesn't NetworkManager close active TCP connections when it determines it's offline? | 16:31 |
| Sput | a closing socket should trigger an immediate reconnect anyway | 16:31 |
| Riddell | no I don't think so | 16:31 |
| Sput | hm, at least other apps seem to notice NM going offline | 16:32 |
| KRF | apachelogger: second, just trying to find out what happened there | 16:32 |
| apachelogger | KRF: no one touched the tar either | 16:32 |
| apachelogger | same md5 as the one lydia mentioned in the tagging announcement | 16:32 |
| Sput | and I think I've tested it with quassel too... the other issue I get a lot with mobile though is that NM does *not* notice the net going away :) | 16:32 |
| Sput | in which apps can't do anything | 16:32 |
| Sput | +case | 16:32 |
| apachelogger | KRF: what is the SVG called? | 16:33 |
| apachelogger | ah | 16:34 |
| apachelogger | nvm | 16:34 |
| * apachelogger is blind | 16:34 | |
| apachelogger | woosh | 16:35 |
| apachelogger | KRF: must have been something at build or install time | 16:35 |
| apachelogger | cmpsvg: python-rsvg not installed, cannot compare SVG images | 16:36 |
| apachelogger | eh | 16:36 |
| apachelogger | WTH | 16:37 |
| KRF | apachelogger: i'm a bit confuzzled right now, /usr/share/kde4/apps/amarok/images/default-theme-clean.svg totally does not look like the file for the 2.4.0 tag in repo | 16:37 |
| apachelogger | weeeh | 16:37 |
| apachelogger | scour 0.25 | 16:37 |
| apachelogger | KRF: something is compressing the svgs | 16:37 |
| KRF | ouch | 16:37 |
| apachelogger | weehehehe | 16:37 |
| apachelogger | part of the default build process it seems | 16:37 |
| KRF | since when? | 16:37 |
| apachelogger | *shrug* | 16:38 |
| apachelogger | I don't even know why | 16:38 |
| * KRF wonders why noone noticed that earlier | 16:38 | |
| apachelogger | oh | 16:38 |
| apachelogger | guess what | 16:38 |
| KRF | the highlight color looks pretty out of shape | 16:38 |
| apachelogger | debian screwed us over | 16:38 |
| apachelogger | or maybe not | 16:38 |
| apachelogger | :P | 16:38 |
| apachelogger | oha | 16:39 |
| apachelogger | actually it is all Riddell's fault | 16:39 |
| apachelogger | :P | 16:39 |
| * apachelogger hugs Riddell | 16:39 | |
| apachelogger | Riddell: do you have a minute? | 16:40 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: what did I do now? | 16:40 |
| KRF | screw that riddell!!!11 | 16:40 |
| debfx | apachelogger: I've added the necessary dependencies to pkg-kde-tools so cmpsvg works | 16:40 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: introduce scour | 16:41 |
| apachelogger | yeah | 16:41 |
| debfx | at least for oneiric it shouldn't be a problem anymore | 16:41 |
| apachelogger | the question i have is | 16:41 |
| apachelogger | if the cmp fails, will it reject the compressed svg or what? | 16:41 |
| debfx | then it uses the original svg | 16:41 |
| apachelogger | ah | 16:41 |
| apachelogger | ok | 16:41 |
| apachelogger | so | 16:41 |
| apachelogger | no brainer | 16:42 |
| apachelogger | although | 16:42 |
| apachelogger | I have that natty too | 16:42 |
| apachelogger | and I do not have new packages | 16:42 |
| apachelogger | weeh | 16:42 |
| apachelogger | debfx: SRU for pkg-kde-tools && nochange SRU for amarok once pkg-kde-tools is through SRU process plz | 16:42 |
| debfx | apachelogger: go ahead :) | 16:43 |
| debfx | is there even a bug report? | 16:43 |
| apachelogger | I am too old for this | 16:43 |
| apachelogger | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/amarok/+bug/786192 | 16:43 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 786192 in amarok (Ubuntu) "Wrong rendering of some elements of interface" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 16:43 |
| apachelogger | oh hold on | 16:45 |
| apachelogger | debfx: you uploaded that fix to natty? | 16:45 |
| apachelogger | pkg-kde-tools (0.9.3ubuntu10) natty; urgency=low | 16:45 |
| apachelogger | * Re-enable Scour as python-scour has dropped the problematic dependencies. | 16:45 |
| apachelogger | -- Felix Geyer <debfx-pkg@fobos.de> Sun, 20 Mar 2011 19:13:09 +0100 | 16:45 |
| apachelogger | and even more so | 16:46 |
| apachelogger | debfx: that does not resolve the problem it appears | 16:46 |
| apachelogger | cause | 16:46 |
| apachelogger | cmpsvg: python-rsvg not installed, cannot compare SVG images | 16:46 |
| apachelogger | it would appear that python-rsvg is still not dragged in in oneiric | 16:46 |
| apachelogger | so we need an explicit dep in oneiric, SRU that to natty, and then rebuild amarok via SRU | 16:47 |
| debfx | it certainly is now | 16:47 |
| KRF | apachelogger: uhm, how can i check the last upgrade of amarok on my system? | 16:47 |
| KRF | give me some bash magic | 16:47 |
| debfx | is it even broken in plain natty? the bug report talks about 2.4.1 | 16:47 |
| apachelogger | debfx: hm, perhaps uploaded before latest amaork build then | 16:47 |
| apachelogger | debfx: yes | 16:47 |
| apachelogger | I have plain natty here | 16:48 |
| apachelogger | and the svg is fckd | 16:48 |
| apachelogger | also see build log https://launchpadlibrarian.net/68211946/buildlog_ubuntu-natty-i386.amarok_2%3A2.4.0-0ubuntu5_BUILDING.txt.gz | 16:48 |
| KRF | purely fcked, i can attest | 16:48 |
| debfx | indeed | 16:49 |
| debfx | so yeah, no-change rebuild in oneiric and SRU pkg-kde-tools and amarok | 16:50 |
| debfx | assuming that cmpsvg detects the broken svg | 16:51 |
| apachelogger | debfx: oh, we probably should test that first ^^ | 16:51 |
| apachelogger | uh | 16:52 |
| apachelogger | the oneiric rebuild should give us an idea ^^ | 16:52 |
| apachelogger | debfx: at worst we'd introduce an env var to override scour, SRU that and then SRU amarok with the var exported | 16:52 |
| KRF | apachelogger: answer my question, lord of packaging | 16:52 |
| apachelogger | KRF: I do not compute the question pretty much | 17:01 |
| KRF | when...last..update...to..amarok..package on my system? | 17:01 |
| apachelogger | debfx: shall I assign you to the bugs? | 17:01 |
| apachelogger | KRF: ask the cloud | 17:01 |
| apachelogger | the log cloud | 17:01 |
| apachelogger | brrruhahaha | 17:01 |
| apachelogger | /var/log/dpkg.log | 17:01 |
| apachelogger | or maybe without .log | 17:01 |
| KRF | i see | 17:01 |
| KRF | apachelogger: so, since when this is all fcked up? | 17:01 |
| apachelogger | natty | 17:01 |
| apachelogger | dh_scour was introduced in natty the ubuntu manpages site says | 17:01 |
| debfx | apachelogger: yeah, though I would be worried if you continue to age that fast | 17:01 |
| debfx | looking at the bug report, cmpsvg will likely not solve the problem | 17:01 |
| apachelogger | KRF: in case you happen to know: does svgtinter hardcode the mappings? | 17:03 |
| debfx | apachelogger: it does a string based search/replace | 17:04 |
| apachelogger | because if so, then we should indeed introduce an overriding env var and thus provide scour from doing anything to amarok svg's | 17:04 |
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| KRF | apachelogger: no idea | 17:04 |
| apachelogger | debfx: we want blacklisting for SRU then, and probably for oneiric too | 17:04 |
| KRF | apachelogger: ah, sorry. yes, it indeed is hardcoded | 17:04 |
| KRF | m_tintMap.insert( "#666765", App::instance()->palette().window().color().name() ); | 17:05 |
| apachelogger | KRF: on a related note: you should gzip the svgs to svgz | 17:05 |
| KRF | "broken by design" | 17:05 |
| * apachelogger believes gzipping will be 300% more efficient than scour anyway | 17:05 | |
| KRF | apachelogger: not sure if that makes sense wrt to versioning | 17:05 |
| apachelogger | KRF: gzipping? | 17:06 |
| apachelogger | gzipping makes always sense :P | 17:06 |
| KRF | gzipping and pushing it to Git? | 17:06 |
| apachelogger | yeah | 17:06 |
| apachelogger | it is not like anyone cares about svg markup :P | 17:06 |
| KRF | binary blobs are not really nice to `diff` | 17:06 |
| apachelogger | KRF: make it part of the build process then | 17:06 |
| KRF | apachelogger: not sure if this is going to be that trivial in CMake | 17:08 |
| debfx | apachelogger: scour and gzip are not mutually exclusive | 17:08 |
| apachelogger | course not, but gzip doesn't screw up your data :P | 17:09 |
| KRF | debfx: could you just gzip instead of using scour? | 17:12 |
| KRF | looks like our code could handle it | 17:12 |
| debfx | I'm sure there are applications that hardcode the svg filenames | 17:13 |
| KRF | debfx: sure, not globally. just for amarok | 17:13 |
| apachelogger | well | 17:13 |
| apachelogger | quite honestly I'd go a different direction altogether | 17:13 |
| apachelogger | make scour opt-in | 17:13 |
| apachelogger | I do not quite like the idea of having stuff screw with xml files for all kde packages | 17:14 |
| apachelogger | then again since there is a scour sequence anyway it is opt-in without us doing anything | 17:15 |
| debfx | maybe restrict it to main? | 17:17 |
| debfx | it would be interesting to know how much space it actually saves | 17:17 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: I like how the welcome package thread now has 57 mails | 17:18 |
| apachelogger | debfx: still too much option for breakage | 17:18 |
| debfx | but why don't we just fix SvgTinter? | 17:18 |
| apachelogger | you need to tightly check the software to ensure no new release suddenly breaks with scour | 17:18 |
| apachelogger | meaning you need to be aware of scour being used and you need to have the time to actually notice such things | 17:19 |
| apachelogger | which for the better part of our main packages is just not doable | 17:19 |
| apachelogger | debfx: because it woudl be a workaround to scour being a necessary evil | 17:19 |
| apachelogger | a necessary evil that only ought to be used when someone knows why whatfor and when it makes sense | 17:19 |
| === rdieter_work is now known as rdieter | ||
| DarkwingDuck | morning gang | 17:24 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: yes indeed | 17:29 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: people screaming how they got their package | 17:29 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: should i 'contribute' :P | 17:30 |
| apachelogger | yplz | 17:30 |
| shadeslayer | oh anything interesting to do? | 17:30 |
| apachelogger | I fear if I tell people that eric brought it over personally they might get jealous | 17:30 |
| shadeslayer | hahaha | 17:30 |
| apachelogger | so I better not contribute | 17:30 |
| * apachelogger needs to go find some place where one could acquire eatables | 17:31 | |
| KRF | apachelogger: guten | 17:32 |
| shadeslayer | "Harald Sitter has appeared online" :3 | 17:36 |
| amorphous1 | Riddell, ping | 17:40 |
| Riddell | hello amorphous1 | 17:43 |
| amorphous1 | Riddell, hello, I need to file a bug against a packahge but I'm not sure which one | 17:43 |
| Riddell | ... | 17:44 |
| amorphous1 | Riddell, in KDE Keyboard preferences"→ Layouts → "Options…"→ "Key(s) to change layout | 17:44 |
| amorphous1 | what is the package that manages that | 17:44 |
| Riddell | kdebase-workspace I expect | 17:45 |
| Riddell | although it's probably an upstream bug in which case -> bugs.kde.org | 17:45 |
| shadeslayer | ^^ on that note, are they really going to change bug trackers? | 17:45 |
| amorphous1 | Riddell, thanks...that's the one | 17:45 |
| shadeslayer | someone threw in LP in the mix | 17:45 |
| * shadeslayer digs up emails | 17:45 | |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: not that I know of | 17:48 |
| Riddell | there's a view that bugzilla has passed its use by date but there's no leading candidate to replace it | 17:49 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: apparently they're going to upgrade bugzilla to bugzilla 4 | 17:49 |
| shadeslayer | thats what the sysadmin team is saying | 17:49 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: it's on the plasma ML | 17:49 |
| * shadeslayer gets to merging choqok | 17:49 | |
| Riddell | ok | 17:50 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: so, did you start with the bzr teams? | 17:50 |
| shadeslayer | Scott said that you were away trying to adjust with them :D | 17:51 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: I did, got some patches in | 17:51 |
| shadeslayer | ah | 17:51 |
| Riddell | we had a sprint in London | 17:51 |
| shadeslayer | oh cool, can i expect LP not to time out next time when i copy like 100 packages? :P | 17:52 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: i see you added kubuntu_02_fix_message_indicator.diff to choqok | 17:56 |
| shadeslayer | simple change replacing INDICATEQT_BUILD with QTINDICATE_BUILD | 17:56 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: alas launchpad timeouts are nothing to do with bzr | 17:57 |
| Riddell | shadeslayer: yes I sent that upstream | 17:57 |
| * Riddell out | 17:57 | |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: oh ... hasn't been applied :( | 17:57 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: cya | 17:57 |
| Riddell | hmm, tsk, he said he would | 17:57 |
| shadeslayer | hmm.. would someone sponsor a merge request for choqok? | 18:26 |
| === rdieter is now known as rdieter_work | ||
| ScottK | Riddell: Some of us other council members conspired in your absence and decided that waiting and having the new council review/approve specs was more important than hitting some arbitrary deadline in the schedule. I expect we'll schedule a meeting as soon as election results are known. | 19:00 |
| DarkwingDuck | bbiab, 2nd interview time | 19:05 |
| shadeslayer | DarkwingDuck: best of luck! | 19:05 |
| DarkwingDuck | XD | 19:06 |
| === barraponto_ is now known as barraponto | ||
| jussi | Quintasan: apachelogger ping | 19:08 |
| jussi | Quintasan: apachelogger: my freescale boards just got updated to be shipped tomorrow. did you get a similar email? | 19:08 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: around ? | 19:27 |
| ScottK | Yes | 19:27 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: could you sponsor 2 merges? | 19:27 |
| ScottK | ENOTIME for sponsoring right now. Sorry. | 19:27 |
| shadeslayer | sure np | 19:27 |
| * shadeslayer files bug instead then | 19:28 | |
| c2tarun | what does this class KFileMetaDataConfigurationWidget exactly do? in api its written that it configures what to be displayed from metadata but didn't explain how? | 19:31 |
| shadeslayer | c2tarun: the best place to ask would be #kde-devel | 19:32 |
| c2tarun | shadeslayer: ok :) | 19:32 |
| DarkwingDuck | That's interesting. | 19:35 |
| jussi | DarkwingDuck: `?? | 19:36 |
| shadeslayer | DarkwingDuck: what happened? :D | 19:36 |
| yofel | he just found out how to fix the wiki? =þ | 19:38 |
| DarkwingDuck | The interview last 3 minutes and Jono wants to see a plan of action to refine, improve and grow the QA community by tuesday. | 19:39 |
| jussi | DarkwingDuck: good luck. | 19:43 |
| DarkwingDuck | jussi: Thanks Matre | 19:43 |
| DarkwingDuck | *Mate | 19:43 |
| CIA-51 | [kubuntu-notification-helper] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20110526185904-3snd3ly8wkcvhd1s * (3 files in 2 dirs) Check the result of QApt Batch in InstallEvent before we triumphantly declare success. (LP: #745133) | 19:59 |
| CIA-51 | [kubuntu-notification-helper] Jonathan Thomas <echidnaman@kubuntu.org> * echidnaman@kubuntu.org-20110526185921-xdz5seqywv7r1y5l * debian/changelog Set to UNRELEASED | 19:59 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: around? | 21:08 |
| shadeslayer | sheytan: the screenshots on your blog are from KDE 4.7 ? | 21:20 |
| shadeslayer | ah yes, google translate says so | 21:20 |
| sheytan | shadeslayer the latest ones? | 21:21 |
| shadeslayer | yes | 21:21 |
| sheytan | yes, neon | 21:21 |
| sheytan | shadeslayer: why? | 21:21 |
| shadeslayer | oh | 21:21 |
| shadeslayer | i should open up neon then :P | 21:21 |
| shadeslayer | i haven't opened neon in like a month ^_^ | 21:21 |
| sheytan | fix akonadi please :D | 21:21 |
| shadeslayer | sheytan: hahaha | 21:22 |
| shadeslayer | sheytan: you can export a var and it start working | 21:22 |
| shadeslayer | yofel documented it afaik | 21:22 |
| * yofel is off to bed, good night | 21:51 | |
| shadeslayer | night | 21:52 |
| === rdieter_work is now known as rdieter | ||
| shadeslayer | hey apachelogger, i found your spaceshit http://fastcache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2011/05/normandy.jpg | 22:11 |
| shadeslayer | herp derp | 22:11 |
| shadeslayer | i meant ship | 22:11 |
| shadeslayer | *facepalm* | 22:11 |
| ryrych | can you tell me the name of high-end and good looking laptop that uses ubuntu/kubuntu? good for marketing purposes? | 22:21 |
| shadeslayer | ryrych: google for zareason | 22:21 |
| DarkwingDuck | Anyone know where the reordings form UDS are located? | 22:22 |
| ryrych | shadeslayer: ok, but what about Dell that Canonical on ubuntu.com advertises? | 22:22 |
| DarkwingDuck | form/from | 22:22 |
| shadeslayer | DarkwingDuck: one sec | 22:23 |
| shadeslayer | DarkwingDuck: http://ubuntu.mirocommunity.org/ | 22:24 |
| shadeslayer | ryrych: i have no idea on that | 22:24 |
| ryrych | ok | 22:24 |
| DarkwingDuck | shadeslayer: you are amazing | 22:24 |
| shadeslayer | i tried to get a Ubuntu powered laptop, but i couldn't get one from Dell | 22:24 |
| shadeslayer | DarkwingDuck: *hugs* | 22:25 |
| DarkwingDuck | shadeslayer: *hugs* XD | 22:25 |
| shadeslayer | DarkwingDuck: alot of them are on youtube as well | 22:25 |
| shadeslayer | ubuntudevelopers is the user iirc | 22:25 |
| DarkwingDuck | ahhhhhh hah... This is what I was looking for... http://mirrors.tumbleweed.org.za/uds-o/ | 22:27 |
| shadeslayer | thats a new one | 22:28 |
| * shadeslayer adds to bookmarks | 22:28 | |
| shadeslayer | DarkwingDuck: ah you meant audio recordings | 22:29 |
| DarkwingDuck | aye | 22:31 |
| ScottK | ryrych: The systems you can get from Dell with Ubuntu on them are 'not very good.' | 22:32 |
| ScottK | I've bought quite a number of Dells and the pre-installed Ubuntu ones never made the grade. | 22:41 |
| ScottK | Zareason is a great choice for Kubuntu preinstalled. | 22:42 |
| DarkwingDuck | Zareason ++ | 22:43 |
| valorie | Zareason are Good Folks | 23:05 |
| JontheEchidna | Reminds me of this: http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2008/9/17/ (coarse language) | 23:19 |
| DarkwingDuck | XD | 23:20 |
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