[01:19] <CarlFK> what runs /etc/profile.d/* ? cuz it seems to be running everything in there 2 x
[03:41] <sdhasu> !ops
[03:41] <ubot4> Help! Seveas, Hobbsee, gnomefreak, coleSLAW, or dholbach
[03:41] <sdhasu> !staff
[03:41] <sdhasu> !ops
[03:41] <ubot4> hey Christel, Dave2, Gary, KB1JWQ, Levia, Martinp23, SportsChick, VorTechS, jayne, jenda, marienz, nalioth, niko, nhandler, rob, stew or tomaw, I could use a bit of your time :)
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[03:42] <arand> sdhasu: Please stop that.
[03:42] <sdhasu> make me
[03:42] <sdhasu> !ops
[03:42] <ubot4> Help! Seveas, Hobbsee, gnomefreak, coleSLAW, or dholbach
[03:42] <sdhasu> !staff
[03:42] <ubot4> hey Christel, Dave2, Gary, KB1JWQ, Levia, Martinp23, SportsChick, VorTechS, jayne, jenda, marienz, nalioth, niko, nhandler, rob, stew or tomaw, I could use a bit of your time :)
[03:43] <sdhasu> !ops | idleone
[03:43] <ubot4> idleone: please see above
[03:43] <sdhasu> !ops
[03:43] <sdhasu> !staff
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[03:43] <ubot4> Help! Seveas, Hobbsee, gnomefreak, coleSLAW, or dholbach
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[03:46] <ubot4> Help! Seveas, Hobbsee, gnomefreak, coleSLAW, or dholbach
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[03:46] <ubot4> hey Christel, Dave2, Gary, KB1JWQ, Levia, Martinp23, SportsChick, VorTechS, jayne, jenda, marienz, nalioth, niko, nhandler, rob, stew or tomaw, I could use a bit of your time :)
[03:47] <sdhasu> !ops
[03:47] <ubot4> Help! Seveas, Hobbsee, gnomefreak, coleSLAW, or dholbach
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[03:49] <ubot4> Help! Seveas, Hobbsee, gnomefreak, coleSLAW, or dholbach
[09:59] <czajkowski> jibel: thanks :)
[10:04] <czajkowski> could someone help me triage this bug please https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/788508
[10:04] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 788508 in xorg (Ubuntu) "Machine randomly reboots for no reason (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[10:20] <vish> czajkowski: you'd have better luck on #ubuntu-x (during US hours)
[10:20] <vish> (most of the X folk are in US or Australia.)
[10:22] <czajkowski> vish: ah ok thanks was told to come here to triage them :s
[10:25]  * vish in future, plans to buy only systems that are Ubuntu certified..   hardware certification team would take care of triaging :D
[10:26] <czajkowski> vish: no doubt then I'll logger heads that I can buy X machine only if I live in Y country :)
[10:26] <vish> ha!
[10:32] <jibel> czajkowski, it is the right place for triaging but X gurus are usually on #ubuntu-x :-)
[10:33] <jibel> czajkowski, this is a X segfault, it would be very useful if you could provide a backtrace. I've added a comment on the report.
[10:35] <czajkowski> ok thanks
[10:38] <czajkowski> jibel: is there a way to add that trace directly to tbe bug or do I save locally then add?
[10:38] <jibel> czajkowski, and you're not alone bug 768159, bug 780358 have a similar trace
[10:38] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 768159 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) "X server randomly crashes (Segmentation fault at address 0x7f18a55c7010) (affects: 8) (dups: 1) (heat: 139)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/768159
[10:38] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 780358 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) "Random X crashes in Ubuntu 11.04 (affects: 17) (heat: 96)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/780358
[10:38] <jibel> czajkowski, save the trace and attach it to the report.
[10:56] <brendand> this is the second guy i've seen with this report. maybe third:
[10:56] <brendand> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/788521
[10:56] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 788521 in ubuntu "Upgrade from v10.10 to v11.04 leads always to grub console after reboot (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[10:56] <brendand> i must admit this did happen to me once, but back when natty was in development (december)
[10:57] <brendand> i'm really not sure about the package though, should it be update-manager?
[10:57] <brendand> other report is : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager-core/+bug/787625
[10:57] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 787625 in update-manager-core (Ubuntu) "10.10 --> 11.04 update fails (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[10:58] <brendand> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/787379
[10:58] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 787379 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "Update-Manager (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New]
[10:59] <jibel> brendand, in the 1rst report, the assumption that it is caused by Unity is wrong. We need the upgrade logs and system configuration to know if something wrong happened during the upgrade.
[11:00] <jibel> brendand, for the moment assign to update-manager and ask for the logs in /var/log/dist-upgrade/
[11:00] <brendand> jibel - well, certainly it's wrong to assume it's anything to do with unity
[11:00] <jibel> brendand, we'll reassign to grub or the right package afterwards
[11:00] <brendand> jibel - i guess i need to advise him how to boot into the system first (in case he doesn't know how to use grub
[11:01] <jibel> brendand, sure, he may need to boot from a live cd to collect the logs
[11:03] <jibel> brendand, 2nd report is strange, grub prompt says ' GNU GRUB version 1.98-1ubuntu5' which is the version in lucid, but he said he upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04. This may explain that the system doesn't boot. Once again we need the upgrade logs
[11:04] <brendand> jibel - hmmm, i wonder. the time i got it i was using the initial install of ubuntu i had on this laptop which was Lucid upgraded to Maverick. Then upgraded to Natty and that happened
[11:05] <brendand> jibel - then i reinstalled and it hasn't happened since
[11:05] <jibel> mvo, can you add Oneiric to http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-development or may be are we waiting for a1 ?
[11:05] <brendand> jibel - do we test the upgrade path?
[11:05] <jibel> brendand, yes we do.
[11:06] <jibel> brendand, but more testing of the upgrade is warmly welcome.
[11:06] <mvo> jibel: can do after lunch
[11:07] <jibel> mvo, ok thanks, bon appétit :-)
[11:07] <mvo> thanks jibel :)
[11:09] <jibel> brendand, I'll try to upgrade from L -> O but in this specific report there's something really wrong since it is not even the version from lucid-updates
[11:09] <brendand> jibel - is it older or newer?
[11:09] <jibel> brendand, older
[11:10] <brendand> jibel - let me get something straight, if he installed fresh Lucid and then went straight for the upgrade, should it have been updated?
[11:12] <jibel> brendand, the version from maverick should be installed at least.
[11:12] <jibel> brendand, L -> N is not a supported upgrade path.
[11:12] <brendand> jibel - didn't L->M switch to Grub2?
[11:13] <jibel> brendand, 1.9x is grub2
[11:13] <brendand> jibel - okay
[11:15] <jibel> brendand, but the version should be 1.98+20100804-5ubuntu3 or1.99~rc1-13ubuntu3 not 1.98-1ubuntu5, which makes me think that this system has a problem with grub2 since it has been installed in Lucid.
[11:19] <brendand> jibel - ok, sent to update-manager and set to incomplete
[11:21] <jibel> brendand, thanks for your help
[11:24] <brendand> jibel - no problem. these people seem quite annoyed at this issue. i think once we get a bit more info it might be a 'high' importance bug
[11:25] <brendand> jibel - got to figure out what's happening first though... hopefully he comes back with the logs
[13:47] <pedro_> folks remember that today we're having a bug day for Compiz! there's a lot of bugs waiting to be triaged so if you have some time, please do join us on that effort : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20110526
[14:18] <roadmr> Good morning! can someone help me with bug 787779? Should be importance: medium, I also confirmed/reproduced it, so it already has status confirmed
[14:18] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 787779 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "battery power notification is not fully shown in french (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/787779
[14:22] <RedSingularity> micahg: ping
[14:23] <serfus> is there something that a non bug control member can do on a new wishlist bug?
[14:26] <brendand> roadmr - does it prevent the message being understood/make it ambiguous?
[14:26] <roadmr> brendand: nope, that's why it's medium and not high :P
[14:27] <RedSingularity> serfus: what do you want to do?
[14:27] <serfus> RedSingularity, i am not sure what to do, as i can't set as wishlist
[14:27] <serfus> is there anything else i should do?
[14:28] <brendand> roadmr - strictly speaking it's medium, but i would define text that is missing but can easily be infered as in the category of 'workaround' :)
[14:28] <brendand> roadmr - you're working around the bug with your mind :)
[14:28] <roadmr> brendand: yes, the other 100% easy workaround is to resize the window so the whole string can be read heheh
[14:28] <RedSingularity> serfus: well you would need -control privileges to set an importance level of any kind.
[14:28] <brendand> roadmr - so i'd even go towards low..
[14:29] <brendand> roadmr - if the window couldn't be resized, or if the missing text made the message confusing, then medium
[14:29] <RedSingularity> serfus: what package were you triaging?
[14:29] <serfus> RedSingularity, i know, so what i ask is if setting the importance is the only thing to do on this sort of bug
[14:30] <serfus> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/781280
[14:30] <brendand> roadmr - i guess you're fishing for someone to set it? can't help with that yet :(
[14:30] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 781280 in unity (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "Add a Screenshot-API (Plugin) (affects: 1) (heat: 223)" [Undecided,New]
[14:30] <serfus> he is asking to add a plugin
[14:31] <brendand> roadmr - you planning to join the Compiz hug day later on?
[14:32] <RedSingularity> serfus:  have the user run the following to get system info:  apport-bug 781280
[14:32] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 781280 in unity (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "Add a Screenshot-API (Plugin) (affects: 1) (heat: 223)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/781280
[14:33] <roadmr> brendand: hm, It's one of the most frequently-used applications so I'd hesitate to set any bug as low
[14:34] <roadmr> brendand: yes, that hug day is today! I plan to pitch in, maybe after lunch
[14:37] <jibel> roadmr, medium looks good according to bugs/importance: "Medium: A usability issue that does not limit the functionality of a core application. "
[14:38] <roadmr> jibel: thanks! should I leave it as confirmed or move it to triaged? also I can't set the importance, might I bother you with help on that?
[14:39] <serfus> RedSingularity, i didn't get you... i am not that much of a triager i'm actually quite new to this
[14:40] <jibel> roadmr, updated. I did the easy bit, thanks for confirming this issue.
[14:41] <roadmr> jibel: no problem, thanks to you!
[14:43] <RedSingularity> serfus: Well before marking it as a wishlist item and marking triaged as well, the user, in most cases, should have their system info in the bug report.  This is done automatically most of the time but if a report has no system info you have the user run 'apport-collect bug-number' to collect system info.  In this case you ask the user to run apport-collect 781280
[14:43] <RedSingularity> serfus: just make a comment asking the user to run that command in a terminal
[14:44] <serfus> okay, thanks RedSingularity
[14:44] <RedSingularity> serfus: no prob :)
[14:45] <RedSingularity> jibel: still here buddy?
[14:46] <brendand> roadmr, jibel - i would say that bug is 'Triaged' (i sometimes fix bugs in update-manager and would say I have enough there to work on if I wanted to)
[14:47] <jibel> RedSingularity, hi
[14:48] <RedSingularity> jibel: hey, bugs with the system not resuming from sleep are appropriate in the acpi package correct?
[14:49] <micahg> RedSingularity: pong
[14:49] <brendand> RedSingularity - linux, more likely
[14:49] <JFo> linux indeed
[14:49] <JFo> :)
[14:49] <RedSingularity> brendand, JFo great thanks :)
[14:49] <JFo> RedSingularity, no problem
[14:50] <brendand> RedSingularity - np
[14:50] <RedSingularity> micahg: just got an answer :)
[14:50] <jibel> RedSingularity, I blindly trust JFo for this type of bug.
[14:50] <JFo> jibel, hah!
[14:50] <JFo> I'd never blindly trust me :-)
[14:51] <RedSingularity> jibel: yeah, I have never worked these either :/  Just trying to find the appropriate package assignment.
[14:52] <brendand> JFo - S3 bugs are usually drivers acting funny, right?
[14:52] <JFo> could be, but there are several other possibilities as well
[14:52] <brendand> JFo - now i'm gonna ask you to enlighten us...
[14:53] <JFo> heh, well, I don't have all of the details just yet myself. That is something that cking is teaching me in the first part of this cycle
[14:53] <JFo> :-)
[15:00] <mvo> jibel: meta-release-development is update
[15:01] <mvo> jibel: I update the auto-upgrade-tester now too
[15:05] <jibel> mvo, great. Thanks.
[15:07] <jibel> mvo, are you aware of a change in apt during Natty cycle that could lead to an increasing number of MergeList errors ? reports have been consolidated on bug 346386
[15:07] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 346386 in apt (Debian) (and 1 other project) "[MASTER] Update fails with invalid package files with "Encountered a section with no Package: header" (affects: 79) (dups: 66) (heat: 614)" [Unknown,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/346386
[15:08] <mvo> jibel: is this usually junk from e.g. a paywall or something else that intercepts the traffic?
[15:08] <jibel> mvo, that's usually an error page from a router, proxy, dsl box, ...
[15:09] <mvo> jibel: ok, I'm not aware from the top of my head why this is now more frequent, but I check
[15:09] <mvo> jibel: just wanted to confirm that its usually this
[15:10] <jibel> mvo, maybe that's just more users reporting bugs, but it's better to double check.
[15:11] <jibel> or bug reporting made easier :-)
[15:12] <mvo> the bug is defenitely valid and should be fixed, its rather silly that apt throws up its hands in a situation like this
[15:12] <RedSingularity> jibel: oh wow.  Thanks for marking all those dupes for me.  Saved me some time from going back ;)
[15:13] <jibel> RedSingularity, I have some tricks in my hat to deal with duplicates ;-)
[15:13] <RedSingularity> jibel: ohhhhh.  Your a sly one!
[15:15] <charlie-tca> Ubuntu Bug Day today for compiz - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20110526
[15:18] <RedSingularity> charlie-tca: where does everyone meet?
[15:18] <charlie-tca> right here
[15:18] <RedSingularity> Oh, I am ahead of the game then ;)
[15:19] <charlie-tca> but you need to go to the wiki page and grab some bugs from it to triage
[15:29] <czajkowski> jibel: bug resolved :D
[15:29] <charlie-tca> installing Ubuntu 11.04 to work those compiz bugs
[15:32] <jibel> czajkowski, good news!
[15:40] <tsimpson> bdmurray: topic cut-off
[15:40] <bdmurray> tsimpson: I see that, now to remember what the last bit was
[15:40] <JFo> User support (not related to triage) is in #ubuntu
[15:40] <JFo> bdmurray, ^
[15:40] <tsimpson> User support (not related to triage) is in #ubuntu
[15:41] <tsimpson> the limit is 390 characters
[15:41] <tsimpson> (tinyurl or similar may be helpful)
[15:42] <bdmurray> I removed the whole Bug Control bit seems least likely to be used
[15:47] <brendand> roadmr - the battery message doesn't even appear in the same place on my system :/
[15:47] <brendand> roadmr - or i was looking in the wrong place :P
[15:48] <roadmr> brendand: oh? where does it appear? mine is exactly like the screenshot in the bug
[15:48] <brendand> roadmr - no, i was looking in the wrong place, at the wrong message
[15:48] <brendand> roadmr - thanks for the reproduction steps
[15:50] <roadmr> brendand: yep, sounded easier than changing the system language altogether or installing anew
[15:51] <brendand> roadmr - should be an easy fix, just need to call set_width on the main window with the width of the label
[15:51] <roadmr> brendand: how do you find out the width of the label?
[15:51] <brendand> roadmr - or a text wrap property if there is one
[15:51]  * brendand has to delve into the update-manager code
[15:53] <mvo> brendand: let me know if I can help
[15:55] <roadmr> brendand: you might just play a bit with the UI in Glade, some easy-to-set bit might take care of it. I saw something similar in checkbox and I just had to change width_request to -1 for it to be auto-resized to fit contents
[15:56] <brendand> roadmr - yeah, i was going to look in Glade first. probably can be dealt with there
[16:01] <mvo> jibel: fwiw, 11.04->11.10 worked for me in a vm
[16:02] <brendand> mvo - how do you get the update to Oneiric notification?
[16:03] <mvo> brendand: update-manager -d should work, if not maybe you have some proxy in between that caches aggressively?
[16:05] <brendand> mvo - see it now.
[16:05] <brendand> mvo - i won't be crazy enough to apply to my work machine :)
[16:06] <mvo> brendand: hehehehe, I use it on my workstation ;)
[16:06] <brendand> mvo - test in a vm first for me :)
[16:06] <mvo> brendand: but to be fair, I keep a second machine around for when stuff goes very wrong (but that happens only every 3 days or so)
[16:06] <mvo> ;)
[16:08] <plars> is rampant segfaulting in X on natty a well known hot bug right now?  I did some quick searching but haven't found it, but from what I gather I'm not the only one getting bit by it multiple times a day
[16:09] <brendand> plars - it was before release
[16:09] <jibel> mvo, worked for me as well. I'm now trying wubi from L -> M -> N -> O, phew!
[16:09] <plars> brendand: do you have a bug #?
[16:09] <mvo> woah
[16:09] <jibel> mvo, there are long standing SRUs that needs verification, looks good so far.
[16:10] <plars> brendand: I have dual ati/i915 on my laptop, so previously I was just hitting the i915 hang (has been around since lucid or so?), but I didn't start seeing the frequent segfaults until a few days ago or so
[16:10] <brendand> plars - which card is being used?
[16:10] <plars> and the segfaults seem to happen on both (seems to be more frequent on ati, but possibly just because I'm not dying for other reasons)
[16:11] <plars> brendand: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3650
[16:12] <brendand> plars - pretty close to what i have (HD 3400)
[16:12] <brendand> plars - i have my own share of probles, but not segfaults
[16:12] <brendand> s/probles/problems/
[16:13] <jibel> plars, bug 774978 looks quite common, could you try the package from Sarvatt's ppa and see if it improves things.
[16:13] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 774978 in xserver-xorg-input-synaptics (Ubuntu) "xserver crashes in RecordAReply when XRecord is enabled in syndaemon (affects: 33) (dups: 11) (heat: 210)" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/774978
[16:13] <plars> jibel: cool, will take a look in a bit
[16:41] <jibel> mvo, do you know who I need to bother to create the extra repository (http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/) for O ? it breaks the upgrade if extra is enabled
[16:45] <mvo> jibel: wehh
[16:45] <mvo> jibel: let me check
[16:47] <jibel> 'break' is a strong word, it cancels the upgrade because it can't find the repository
[16:50] <mvo> jibel: actually I think I could upload a empty package myself
[17:01] <mvo> stgraber: hey, would you mind to upload a empty package to the oneiric extras.ubuntu.com repo? so that the packages.gz is created and all?
[17:43] <tito> hi, i got a bug & a partial resolution concerning libgl1-mesa-dri, i would like to report it, but can't use ubuntu-bug. what is the way of using web interface ?
[17:43] <tito> i can't found the link
[17:53] <braiam> tito: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[17:53] <braiam> tito: read the topic :P
[17:57] <tito> i was reading it, but they are using ubuntu-bug
[17:58] <tito> i did in another way, search "libgl1-mesa-dri" -> report a bug -> then i got a summary field and the rest in web
[17:59] <tito> thanks, ++
[17:59] <braiam> tito: ubuntu-bug «name of the package» or «ubuntu-bug pid» and it's all
[18:04] <brendand> compiz bug day started?
[18:07] <stgraber> mvo_: I'll copy something, wait for it to show up on LP and remove it. Should do the trick
[18:10] <jibel> brendand, unless you're on a timezone where May 26th has not started, yes it is.
[18:11] <braiam> i think that the time is UTC based on ubuntu?
[18:13] <stgraber> mvo_: done. Oneiric is now visible on ppa.launchpad.net. Should appear on extras.u.c next time it's snyced
[18:13] <charlie-tca> brendand: yes
[18:13] <stgraber> *synced
[18:13] <charlie-tca> bug days use your local time
[18:13] <stgraber> (note that there's no package for Oneiric. I just copied one of maverick's, waited for it to show up, then deleted it. This way we have a Packages file but still no package in Oneiric)
[18:29] <penalvch> just added bug 784455 to the Compiz Bug Day list New section :)
[18:29] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 784455 in compizconfig-settings-manager (Ubuntu) "Negative does not apply to new windows created (affects: 1) (dups: 1) (heat: 448)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/784455
[18:31] <mvo_> stgraber: thanks!
[18:31] <braiam> davmor2: ping?
[18:35] <davmor2> braiam: Hello not had chance I'm afraid silly busy today
[18:36] <braiam> davmor2: ok :)
[18:45] <braiam> can anyone set low priority to bug 781378
[18:45] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 781378 in compiz (Ubuntu) "unmaximize windows on upper screen edge (Fitts's Law) (affects: 3) (heat: 260)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/781378
[18:57] <pedro_> braiam, done, could you please also comment if you're able to reproduce? thanks!
[18:58]  * charlie-tca got the first green on the bug day page
[18:59] <braiam> pedro_: it's already confirmed
[19:02] <MichealH> I would like to do alot of triaging :)
[19:03] <pedro_> braiam, but without a comment, that's why i'm asking :-)
[19:10] <MichealH> And again... Is my Computer okay for KDE?
[19:10] <MichealH> The mouse moves fine, just KWin plays up
[19:11] <MichealH> Im gonna need to restart... brb
[19:25] <brendand> i consider this bug Low importance, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/786325
[19:25] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 786325 in compiz (Ubuntu) "Unable to change mouse cursor theme and size (affects: 1) (heat: 869)" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[19:27] <brendand> a combination of unusual configuration and minor cosmetic issue
[19:50] <braiam> brendand: but there is affecting too many users, also this isn't unusual configuration, most of the users personalize their desktop
[20:08] <brendand> braim - okay. so medium then
[20:08] <brendand> braiam - ^
[20:11] <charlie-tca> pedro already took care of it
[21:31] <brendand> this bug is easily reproducible, and i'd go for medium importance (close to high, but doesn't quite fill the requirements for 'severe impact on a small proportion of ubuntu users')
[21:31] <brendand> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/788786
[21:31] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 788786 in xorg-server (Ubuntu) "Display artifacts on rotated screen (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[21:32] <brendand> not sure how many people there are who can't live without a rotated display
[21:32] <brendand> maybe tablet users
[21:32] <brendand> aha
[21:32] <brendand> so high then
[21:38] <roadmr> brendand: what's your version of unity?
[21:38] <brendand> roadmr - should be latest
[21:42] <roadmr> brendand: strangely then, 788786 is a dupe of 753971 - if you downgrade to unity 3.8.10 you can redraw the display by hitting alt-tab, as described in the older bug
[21:44] <tiagolramos> can anyone check Bug #783155
[21:44] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 783155 in ia32-libs (Ubuntu) "Natty: Loader chooses 64-bit instead of 32-bit library (affects: 8) (heat: 50)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/783155
[21:46] <brendand> roadmr - i wouldn't say it's a dupe. not yet
[21:49] <roadmr> brendand: hmm, they sound similar but you're right, it might be something else as the old one happened when restoring to the previous resolution
[21:56] <trinikrono> bugday!
[21:56] <brendand> roadmr - it always is wrong on right/left, but right on normal/inverted. plus, i don't even think my system exhibits 753971
[21:56] <brendand> roadmr - i'll have to check though
[21:57] <brendand> roadmr - hey, that update-manager label bug is tougher than it looks. Gtk really sucks :)
[21:57] <roadmr> brendand: one easy way to check is by starting an ubuntu classic session, if it doesn't happen there, then it's most likely a unity bug and 753971 is a good candidate
[21:57] <roadmr> brendand: yea hehe, I dug a bit into gtk sizing and allocation for a checkbox bug and it was all really confusing
[22:12] <brendand> roadmr - in a classic session now, doesn't happen
[22:15] <roadmr> brendand: it's what Bryce asked us to do on 753971, see comment #10, that's how he figured out it was unity-related
[22:27] <brendand> i'm gonna check if i can reproduce 753971 on this machine then
[22:27] <brendand> anyway, see you later
[22:29] <roadmr> see ya!
[22:29] <braiam> there's a patch-reworks tag right, I don't remember.