[05:42] <czajkowski> Aloha
[05:45]  * czajkowski hugs pleia2 
[06:48]  * pleia2 hugs czajkowski 
[06:57] <nigelb> *yawn* Good morning!
[07:30] <czajkowski> pleia2: go to bed
[07:34] <dpm> good morning all!
[07:46] <nigelb> Good morning dpm!
[07:48] <czajkowski> my natty install is behaving badly, randomly reboots today
[07:48] <czajkowski> and then freezes on movies
[07:49] <jussi> czajkowski: that sounds horrible. Ive been having random freezes and kernel panics. natty hasnt been a success for me so far :(
[07:51] <dpm> morning nigelb :)
[08:08] <czajkowski> jussi: its the random reboots is annoying
[08:08] <czajkowski> goes to half way through boot up
[08:08] <czajkowski> and then login screen
[08:08] <czajkowski> very odd
[08:08] <jussi> czajkowski: yeah, i can imagine.
[08:40] <czajkowski> jussi: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/788508
[08:40] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 788508 in xorg "Machine randomly reboots for no reason" [Undecided,New]
[08:50] <tsimpson> Lucid is working fine ;)
[09:08] <kim0> morning everyone
[09:11] <czajkowski> tsimpson: *mutters*
[09:12] <czajkowski> tsimpson: works fine on my mini
[09:52] <kim0> huats: hey o/
[09:52] <huats> hey kim0 !
[09:53] <huats> morning everyone btw
[09:53] <huats> kim0, I'll give a look at the data we received
[09:53] <huats> I hpe by the end of the week
[09:53] <huats> or on monday I think
[09:53] <huats> I'll let you know
[09:53] <kim0> huats: awesome .. have fun buddy :)
[09:54] <kim0> huats: I can't wait to get this data out there :)
[09:54] <kim0> huats: thanks for your help
[09:54] <huats> my pleasure
[10:41] <czajkowski> jussi: kubuntu fan  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/780358
[10:41] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 780358 in xorg-server "Random X crashes in Ubuntu 11.04" [Undecided,Confirmed]
[11:12] <jussi> grumble wiki grumble
[11:15] <czajkowski> jussi: are you becoming a clone of jcastro :)
[11:16] <jussi> czajkowski: fine, you tell me why the htc flyer table doesnt work here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/TabletList
[11:20] <nigelb> jussi: fixed
[11:20] <czajkowski> bah
[11:20] <czajkowski> I was fixing it
[11:20] <czajkowski> :(
[11:20] <czajkowski> and editing
[11:20] <jussi> nigelb: what was wrong with it?
[11:20] <czajkowski> and marked preview
[11:21] <nigelb> jussi: space at the end
[11:21] <nigelb> czajkowski: sorry :(
[11:21]  * jussi rolls eyes at the wiki
[11:21] <czajkowski> I thought if you marked preview it locked others out
[11:21] <czajkowski> but did you not get a mesage saying I was editing when you clicked edit...
[11:35]  * AlanBell has access to the new test wiki
[11:39] <jussi> AlanBell: how is it?
[11:44] <duanedesign> mornings all
[11:45]  * duanedesign finally replaced his Tinariwen CD and is enoying listening to it this morning
[11:47] <jussi> btw, who was it that was complaining about the lack of a !fail factoid in here?
[11:47] <jussi> !fail
[11:47] <ubot2> FATAL Error: Operation succeeded
[11:47] <jussi> :)
[12:06] <AlanBell> it is still slow, they haven't turned on xapian yet
[12:09] <cjohnston> jussi: me
[12:09] <cjohnston> :-)
[12:09] <jussi> cjohnston: happy now ?
[12:09] <cjohnston> never
[12:12] <nigelb> AlanBell: can more of us help?
[12:17] <cjohnston> Deleting stuff will help!
[12:18] <czajkowski> I hate packing and moving house!
[12:19] <czajkowski> I seem to have extra stuff from 7 months ago and I've just bagged clothes for charity and still may have to sit on suitcase
[12:27] <jussi> czajkowski: moving again?
[12:28] <czajkowski> yeah
[12:28] <czajkowski> I like making my life exciting
[12:28] <czajkowski> *mutters*
[12:28] <jussi> heh
[12:28] <czajkowski> but I really hate packing
[12:29] <jussi> czajkowski: Im in agreeance with you there.
[12:30] <czajkowski> mhall119: wife and Pendulum helped me pack coming back from orlando was entertaining
[13:02] <mhall119> it was rather entertaining
[13:07] <AlanBell> cjohnston: I am unconvinced that deleting stuff will help
[13:07] <AlanBell> apart from user profiles perhaps
[13:08] <cjohnston> Well.. deleting stuff will get rid of some erroneous results
[13:08] <AlanBell> yeah, main performance problem is brute force evaluation of regexps to get the list of names to send notification emails
[13:09] <mhall119> AlanBell: cjohnston: whatsamatta?
[13:10] <cjohnston> the wiki
[13:10] <mhall119> oh
[13:10]  * cjohnston thinks our resident isd guy should fix the wiki.. what do you think AlanBell ? ;-)
[13:10] <mhall119> we don't do the wiki
[13:11] <AlanBell> bradm is doing it
[13:27] <maco> cjohnston: yeah, ending up at "____HowToBreezy" after a google is a bit not-helpful
[13:27] <cjohnston> ;-)
[13:27] <cjohnston> jcastro's favorite thing.. Delete!
[13:27] <cjohnston> lol
[13:35] <AlanBell> deleting obsolete stuff is good, but I don't think it has a performance impact
[13:49] <popey> depends how much you delete
[13:52] <huats> kim0, I have started to play a bit with the documents we have received
[13:52] <kim0> huats: and what do you think
[13:53] <huats> I think we might have to ask them to change a bit some stuffs :)
[13:53] <huats> or we won't be able to automate things at all
[13:53] <huats> (but I am not yet at the end of my exploration)
[13:53] <kim0> huats: koolhead11 is one of the guys that had written that book
[13:53] <koolhead11> hi all
[13:53] <huats> koolhead11, hey
[13:53] <koolhead11> huats, hello
[13:53] <huats> koolhead11, that will ease the process !
[13:54] <kim0> :)
[13:54] <koolhead11> huats, ok sir
[13:55] <huats> koolhead11, I will continue to play a bit with the sources I have received and I'll let you know if I founf any blocker
[13:55] <koolhead11> huats, ok
[13:55] <huats> right now I am focussing on try to automate the various transformation
[13:55] <koolhead11> huats, kool
[13:55] <kim0> huats: I'm still unsure if we'll be able to integrate the output with the wiki somehow
[13:56] <huats> kim0, I'll let you now
[13:56] <kim0> if not .. just a pdf I guess
[13:56] <huats> know
[13:56] <kim0> yeah
[13:58] <huats> right now I have converted the sources to a rought rst
[13:58] <koolhead11> nice
[13:58] <huats> (I will continue refine the output but it is a basis)
[13:58] <huats> and then to sphinx
[13:59] <huats> (which is done now but needs also more love)
[13:59] <koolhead11> sphinx ^^
[14:02]  * koolhead11 wonders how many ubuntu channel we have on freenode :D
[14:02] <koolhead11> waoo nigelb !! hello sir
[14:23] <head_victim> Anyone know if there are any global events planned in the near/nearish future?
[14:23] <czajkowski> release party end of october
[14:23] <czajkowski> :)
[14:23] <czajkowski> jumps out at me
[14:23] <czajkowski> be nice to have a UGJ this cycle
[14:24] <head_victim> czajkowski: yeah that's all I could think of, just had the question asked in the loco so thought I'd see if there was something I hadn't heard of yet though.
[14:25] <czajkowski> no worries
[14:25] <czajkowski> :)
[14:25] <nigelb> koholhead11: ello
[14:26] <head_victim> Just found jono's post from 3 days ago, looks like a good start
[14:27] <koolhead11> nigelb, how many channels we have man?
[14:27] <nigelb> koolhead11: jussi would know
[14:28]  * koolhead11 looks at jussi 
[14:29]  * head_victim is just doing a channel list to see if he can work out how many ubuntu channels are on this network
[14:30] <head_victim> Well if you show all channels with more than 1 user it's 675 according to the list I just did
[14:30] <head_victim> The search was all channels with "ubuntu" in the channel name
[14:54] <tsimpson> head_victim: channels registered in our namespace is somewhere in the region of 1,300
[14:54] <huats> koolhead11, do you know if instead of exporting to html it is possible to export xhtml ?
[14:54] <tsimpson> that's not necessarily "active" channels, just ones registered
[14:55] <koolhead11> tsimpson,  waoo (o.0)
[14:55] <tsimpson> yep, it's officially "lots and lots"
[14:55] <koolhead11> huats, i think kim0 would have given you text files?
[14:56] <huats> koolhead11, I have received an html export... but it is not really great so I was wondering if a xhtml would be possile
[14:56] <koolhead11> i doubt that :(
[14:57] <kim0> it's wordpress .. whatever that can output
[14:57] <head_victim> tsimpson: that's a bit scary actually
[14:58] <tsimpson> we're working on removing the dead/unused ones
[14:59] <head_victim> Sounds like quite a task
[14:59] <koolhead11> head_victim, yeah true
[14:59] <huats> koolhead11, I am asking because right now the output is not xhtml valid ...and it would be really helpful
[15:00] <koolhead11> huats, <kim0> it's wordpress .. whatever that can output
[15:01] <kim0> huats: seems like it can export xml
[15:01] <huats> koolhead11, I have never used wordpress .. that is why I am asking
[15:01] <huats> kim0, might worth the try
[15:06] <koolhead11> huats, kim0 catch you guys from home.
[15:07] <huats> ok koolhead11 thanks
[15:30] <czajkowski> whoo my xorg bug fixed thanks to Sarvatt
[16:14] <nigelb> http://www.androidguys.com/2011/05/26/ubuntu-ported-galaxy-ii/ :O
[16:18] <popey> meh, vnc
[16:22] <doctormo> meh, no web browser
[16:22] <doctormo> popey: Do you have Ubuntu running on your iPad yet? ;-)
[16:24] <popey> heh
[16:24] <popey> Not yet. If there was a port I'd certainly try
[16:24] <popey> (subject to numerous conditions)
[17:27] <jono> started work today at 9am for the first time in ages instead of 7/8am
[17:27] <jono> felt good to get the sleep :-)
[17:28]  * paultag waves to jono 
[17:28] <jono> hey paultag :-)
[17:40] <jono> Technoviking, meeting in 20?
[17:41] <Technoviking> Technoviking: yup
[17:42] <jono> Technoviking, awesome
[17:43] <jono> Technoviking, I will be doing an interview at that time so will dip in and out
[17:43] <Technoviking> sounds good
[17:43] <jono> Technoviking, I would recommend you try to get the team to focus on a clear set of goals for the 11.10 release, such as documentation and getting the new Ubuntu Tweak in the Software Center
[17:44] <jono> and maybe running a Power Users online training event, akin to Open Week
[17:44] <jono> whatever you folks feel is best
[17:46] <Technoviking> jono: I agree, also other hanging fruit such as helping get quicklist in the basic install
[17:46] <Technoviking> I sent an email asking for people to start thinking about thing we could do during open week
[17:47] <jono> Technoviking, totally
[17:59] <maco> AlanBell: by the way, for the question about rating the install process, people who didnt install it can click "not applicable" and then just skip the one about how it was installed.
[18:34] <nigelb> jcastro!
[19:01] <nigelb> the world is a strange strange place.
[19:01] <nigelb> I just got this tweet from someone I've never met - https://twitter.com/#!/ichattopadhyaya/status/73809894549094400
[19:01] <nigelb> Rest assured that is my pen and I remember writing that :)
[19:02] <mhall119> jono: ping
[19:02] <jono> mhall119, hey
[19:02] <jono> about to hop on a call
[19:02] <koolhead17> nigelb: someone in love with you :)
[19:03] <mhall119> hey, I won't be able to make the 4pm call today
[19:03]  * koolhead17 waves to jono :)
[19:03] <mhall119> nigelb and cjohnston can just assign me work items as they see fit
[19:03] <jono> hey koolhead17
[19:03] <jono> thanks for letting me know mhall119
[19:03] <nigelb> mhall119: We'll be fair, don't worry.
[19:03] <koolhead17> jono: your not there today!! :D
[19:04] <jono> koolhead17, ?
[19:04] <mhall119> my preference would be to work on the rss aggregation, since I'm already familiar with that
[19:04] <koolhead17> i meant that channel :)
[19:04] <mhall119> nigelb: ^^
[19:04] <koolhead17> oops. notthing :P
[19:04] <nigelb> mhall119: cool, okay.  We'll pass that bit onto you.
[19:05] <nigelb> mhall119: I've been trying to get started on the image crediting thing. Its not easy.  Still continuing.
[19:05] <mhall119> if daker_ or Ronnie could make a mockup of what the aggregated feed should look like on the front page, all the better
[19:05] <mhall119> since they're better designers than me
[19:15] <nigelb> mhall119: ugh, this makes me feel we should have meetings often
[19:15] <nigelb> that way work can get assigned and stuff
[19:15] <nigelb> and we can actually have proper discussions
[19:16] <czajkowski> we will be soon
[19:16] <czajkowski> :)
[19:16] <mhall119> nigelb: we can do regular meeting in -meeting
[19:16] <nigelb> czajkowski: :)
[19:17] <nigelb> mhall119: yup, I'll talk to Ronnie and daker and discuss about a time. Fridays would be the best day for you right?
[19:19] <mhall119> or wed.
[19:27] <koolhead17> kim0: your cloud-init video looks good. can`t we link it in ubuntu-community documentation for cloud-init?
[19:52] <kim0> koolhead17: I think it's already linked, no? if not feel free to link to it :)
[19:53] <koolhead17> adding it in bottom, related video with link
[20:05] <koolhead17> done
[20:22] <nigelb> pleia2: \o/ ipv6!
[20:22] <doctormo> nigelb: Every cell needs an ip address! ;-)
[20:23] <nigelb> doctormo: not mine :)
[20:23] <doctormo> nigelb: We should play some more Wesnoth, when are you next free for a game?
[20:23] <pleia2> nigelb :)
[20:23] <nigelb> doctormo: hrm, some time next week probably. I'd love to play again.
[20:24] <doctormo> nigelb: We need to find some more players too, 3 more for a complete team.
[20:24] <nigelb> doctormo: you're better at that sort of thing than me :)
[20:25] <doctormo> pleia2: Want to play a drawf in a game of magic?
[20:25] <nigelb> Anyone knows if akgraner is better?
[20:25] <doctormo> dwarf*
[20:25] <pleia2> doctormo: sorry, no time :(
[21:01] <jono> czajkowski, cjohnston, nigelb dialing into the call now
[21:01] <jono> rrnwexec, are you joining us?
[21:01] <cjohnston> I'm on
[21:01] <nigelb> jono: okay
[21:01] <jono> rrnwexec, I can't remember if I mentioned this call
[21:02] <rrnwexec> jono: i'm dialed in
[21:03] <jono> nigelb, want me to skype you in?
[21:03] <nigelb> jono: yes, please :)
[21:04] <jono> nigelb, cant hear you
[21:04] <nigelb> jono: at all?
[21:04] <jono> nigelb, nope
[21:04] <jono> rrnwexec, are you dialed into the conf call number
[21:04] <rrnwexec> i am
[21:04] <nigelb> jono: bah, I can hear you
[21:05] <jono> czajkowski, call?
[21:06] <nigelb> rrnwexec, cjohnston, jono: I'm taking notes here http://pad.ubuntu.com/SQKZerOLaz
[21:28] <nigelb> that was a fairly productive call :)
[21:29] <jono> awesome call :-)
[21:29] <jono> 30mins and a solid plan
[21:29] <jono> \m/
[21:29] <rrnwexec> thanks Jono. good start.
[21:30] <jono> rrnwexec, :-)
[21:51] <jono> rrnwexec, nigelb, cjohnston nearly done with the design
[21:51] <nigelb> jono: nice :)
[21:53] <cjohnston> please take your time... like 2 months :-P
[21:53] <cjohnston> jono: ^
[21:53] <cjohnston> kidding
[21:57] <jono> lol
[21:57] <jono> just about done
[22:01] <jono> cjohnston, nigelb, mhall119, rrnwexec http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5184/5763041728_9d776baccd_o.jpg
[22:03] <doctormo> jono: Would you like a UI review of that design?
[22:03] <jono> doctormo, feel free to offer comments
[22:03] <jono> I am writing up a blog entry where people can provide some input
[22:04] <jono> and then cjohnston, nigelb and mhall119 can decide what they want to do
[22:04] <doctormo> jono: You've got 3 horizontal navigations and 1 vertical, consider combining the horizontal especially for the front page.
[22:05] <jono> doctormo, I recommend you leave the comments on the blog entry so it can be part of the discussion
[22:05] <jono> I will blog it first and then we can go from there
[22:05] <jono> should be up fairly soon
[22:05] <doctormo> jono: Yikes, sorry.
[22:06] <jono> doctormo, no worries - I jut want to make sure that more people can see your feedback than just people in here
[22:06] <maco> wow, that is *busy*
[22:07] <jono> it is based upon http://cloud.ubuntu.com/
[22:07] <doctormo> jono: This isn't normally how UIs are critically reviewed, mailing lists and such are much better because they're focused. You're going to get a lot of OMG types on your blog.
[22:07] <jono> doctormo, Nigel started a discussion on the loco dir mailing list
[22:07] <jono> feel free to comment there if you like
[22:15] <pleia2> which mailing list is this? the loco dir one hasn't had an email since march
[22:20] <pleia2> oh, there it is :)
[22:22]  * Cheri703 is apparently on that list and had no idea
[22:22] <pleia2> hehe
[22:22] <Cheri703> I may have subscribed during UDS, I apparently subscribed to a bunch of them and have been going "oh, really? ok, sure"
[22:22] <Cheri703> when they arrive
[22:36] <nigelb> pleia2: cough
[22:36] <nigelb> pleia2: I thought I subscribed
[22:36] <pleia2> :)
[22:36] <nigelb> proceeded to try to email from gmail and ubuntu.com to realize I didn't
[22:36] <nigelb> so I subscribed and sent again
[22:37] <nigelb> poor cjohnston is going to kick me :P
[22:37] <pleia2> as usual
[22:37] <nigelb> :D
[22:37] <nigelb> pleia2: I forgot what komputes real name was
[22:37] <nigelb> David... something
[22:38] <pleia2> not sure
[22:42] <nigelb> pleia2: I just need to subscribe to the lists with both email addresses and mark one as web only. That seems to be the only practical solution.
[22:46]  * nigelb goes to bed
[22:57]  * popey gets an email from a test wiki
[22:58]  * popey pokes AlanBell 
[22:58] <AlanBell> yeah, sorry
[22:59] <AlanBell> peformance still sucks on the new wiki because they haven't turned on xapian
[22:59]  * AlanBell is trying to pursuade them that it is the entire point of the upgrade!
[22:59] <pleia2> heh
[23:00] <AlanBell> http://wiki-test.ubuntu.com/SystemInfo