| j1mc_away | CarlFK: yeah, just saying 'four' would make sense to me, too. (if that's what you're suggesting...) | 01:53 |
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| mdke | j1mc: 20:00 UTC on Sunday? | 22:00 |
| j1mc | mdke: how did you guess? | 22:00 |
| j1mc | i was just getting ready to send out an email and put stuff up on the wiki | 22:01 |
| mdke | ah, cool | 22:01 |
| * mdke clicks "Discard" | 22:01 | |
| j1mc | yeah, that time seemed to work best for most of the 'usual suspects' | 22:01 |
| mdke | 7/8 on the poll; and it looks like the 1/8 is a duplicate | 22:02 |
| j1mc | ah, nice | 22:02 |
| j1mc | i emailed jeremy bicha to see if that time worked for him, but figured that it would be better to get the time on ppl's calendars rather than wait much longer. | 22:03 |
| j1mc | i hope he can make it | 22:03 |
| mdke | yeah | 22:03 |
| mdke | he has quite odd sleeping patterns iirc | 22:03 |
| mdke | ;) | 22:03 |
| j1mc | :) | 22:03 |
| mdke | to change the subject slightly | 22:04 |
| mdke | are there any packagers interested in documentation that you know of? | 22:04 |
| mdke | I used to rely on LaserJock for packaging help but he isn't active anymore | 22:04 |
| j1mc | yeah... i am interested in learning it. i know of some people in my loco team who are good with packaging, but they only have a passing interest in docs. | 22:05 |
| j1mc | even nixternal (rich johnson) isn't around much these days. | 22:05 |
| mdke | I haven't had any response to my call for help, and it is blocking a first upload to oneiric of ubuntu-docs | 22:06 |
| mdke | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2011-May/033227.html | 22:06 |
| mdke | if you have any ideas, let me know! | 22:06 |
| j1mc | i could bug micah gersten (micahg) about it. he does a lot of mozilla packaging. | 22:07 |
| j1mc | he's from chicago, too. | 22:07 |
| mdke | if he is willing, that would be awesome. Actually he was asking me last release about the homepage for another browser | 22:08 |
| j1mc | ah, ok. i just send him a note on irc, so we'll see what he says. if he can't help, i asked if he could point me to someone who could help | 22:09 |
| mdke | thanks dude | 22:10 |
| mdke | I had a look through your draft strategy document, it looks pretty solid | 22:11 |
| mdke | thanks for working on that | 22:11 |
| j1mc | ah, cool. thanks. | 22:11 |
| j1mc | more still to do on it. | 22:11 |
| mdke | i guess we can chat through it at the meeting | 22:12 |
| j1mc | even if nobody pushed to it, i wanted it at least to be out in the open. yep, i'm sure we can talk more about it at the meeting. | 22:12 |
| mdke | take it section by section | 22:12 |
| mdke | but I didn't really have any immediate comments as I was skimming it | 22:13 |
| j1mc | you mean you have better things to do??? ;) | 22:14 |
| mdke | no, honestly I thought it was good and couldn't really improve on it | 22:15 |
| j1mc | coolness | 22:16 |
| mdke | man we have a lot of wiki pages | 22:22 |
| mdke | we need to try and cut the volume of material down I think | 22:22 |
| mdke | (in the team pages) | 22:22 |
| MrChrisDruif | mdke; Really? I've only seen a few | 22:22 |
| MrChrisDruif | Cut volume down in team pages? What do you mean by that? | 22:23 |
| j1mc | mdke: yeah... there's a lot of cruft | 22:23 |
| mdke | MrChrisDruif: I mean that we have too many wiki pages for our team | 22:23 |
| j1mc | MrChrisDruif: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam ... look at the bottom of the page | 22:23 |
| j1mc | look at all of the subpages | 22:24 |
| mdke | we have like 70 pages | 22:24 |
| MrChrisDruif | Wow.. | 22:24 |
| MrChrisDruif | Btw ;) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam?action=LocalSiteMap | 22:24 |
| MrChrisDruif | And I'm not sure it makes a good overview <_<" | 22:24 |
| j1mc | thanks, MrChrisDruif ... that's helpful | 22:25 |
| mdke | that doesn't seem to show them all though, there are way more | 22:25 |
| MrChrisDruif | Well...not really actually...second time I've noticed the localsitemap function isn't functioning properly | 22:25 |
| mdke | see the right hand column on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/X | 22:25 |
| * mdke prunes | 22:40 | |
| j1mc | :) | 22:44 |
| mdke | j1mc: how did the word "guide" get put into the title of the new gnome-help, do you know? It seems a bit out of place | 22:46 |
| * j1mc looks quizzically (sp?) ... i'm not sure what you mean. | 22:47 | |
| mdke | it's called "Gnome Desktop Guide" right | 22:48 |
| mdke | or "Ubuntu Desktop Guide" in ours | 22:48 |
| mdke | but it isn't a guide at all, "guide" seems to imply one long linear document | 22:48 |
| mdke | I just wondered if it was discussed | 22:48 |
| j1mc | good point | 22:49 |
| j1mc | i think it was just how we referred to it | 22:49 |
| mdke | I think it was called that before as well, maybe it got carried over | 22:49 |
| mdke | how about we rename ours to "Ubuntu Help" in the next release? | 22:50 |
| j1mc | something like that would be ok, yeah. I still like how 'guide' sounds, but you're right in that it's not linear. | 22:52 |
| j1mc | to me, Ubuntu Help is too brief | 22:53 |
| j1mc | 'ubuntu help compendium' :) | 22:54 |
| MrChrisDruif | Compendium? "This non-native user goes to find what it means :P" | 23:00 |
| mdke | Ubuntu Desktop Help | 23:00 |
| MrChrisDruif | Alright...seems pretty to be spot on actually | 23:00 |
| j1mc | MrChrisDruif: i was joking about compendium. :) it is accurate, but too serious, me thinks. :) | 23:01 |
| * MrChrisDruif learns more works daily | 23:01 | |
| MrChrisDruif | words* | 23:01 |
| j1mc | :) | 23:01 |
| MrChrisDruif | Well, we might want to start to show a little more "professionalism" towards new users...I don't know.. | 23:02 |
| j1mc | mdke: Ubuntu Help might be ok. We'll eventually want to have a different set of help on the web, too, so... using the word desktop might be confusing in that context. ?? it's up for discussion, anyway. | 23:02 |
| j1mc | calling it desktop help might be good, though... we could have separate 'ubuntu server help' | 23:03 |
| j1mc | nhandler: howdy | 23:03 |
| mdke | it works for me | 23:03 |
| MrChrisDruif | Yes, but you might want to run certain "server" apps on your "desktop" | 23:04 |
| mdke | see if it works for upstream | 23:04 |
| MrChrisDruif | Where would you put those, if you don't want to duplicate data? | 23:04 |
| mdke | in the server help | 23:04 |
| MrChrisDruif | Or would you refer to the server help? | 23:04 |
| nhandler | Hi j1mc | 23:04 |
| mdke | ok, I'm signing off, catch you all soon | 23:06 |
| j1mc | g'nite mdke | 23:06 |
| MrChrisDruif | Later mdke | 23:07 |
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