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=== Katie-Offline is now known as KatieKitty
=== KatieKitty is now known as Katie-Offline
ApOgEEhi all02:53
=== Katie-Offline is now known as KatieKitty
ApOgEEhi hyperair 03:17
ApOgEEgood morning03:18
hyperairmorning03:18
=== KatieKitty is now known as Katie-Offline
=== Katie-Offline is now known as KatieKitty
sweemenghi guys04:11
=== KatieKitty is now known as Katie-Offline
fairuzsalam, morning07:45
sweemengfairus ni kat malaysia ke mana?08:07
sweemengsekarang dah petang dah08:09
fairuzbukan kat malaysia08:18
sweemeng_explains08:18
sweemeng_thats why it is in the morning08:18
fairuzyup208:19
=== wisevoyager is now known as ahmed_khan_ameer
ahmed_khan_ameerAssalamu 'alaikum.., senyap jer sumer sibuk bekerja kot? :D08:49
ApOgEEsalam fairuz 08:57
ApOgEEfairuz: kau kat mana tu?08:57
fairuzsalam ApOgEE08:57
fairuzkat opis08:57
ApOgEEbukan malaysia?08:57
fairuzoh bukan08:57
fairuzkat France08:57
ApOgEEi see...08:57
* ApOgEE percaya je...08:57
ApOgEEjauhnye ko keje08:57
fairuzkeke sampai masa aku balik la08:58
ApOgEEko balik m'sia tiap2 hari ke?08:58
ApOgEEatau seminggu sekali?08:58
ApOgEEsyok ke kat France tu?08:59
ApOgEEcamne ko boleh terjoin ubuntu-my ni?08:59
* ApOgEE apasal aku banyak soalan pulak ni?...09:00
ApOgEE:p09:00
fairuzkehkeh09:00
fairuzade ke balik tiap2 minggu, bukan jutawan pun09:00
ApOgEEooo... ingatkan bilionaire sudah... keje kat France.. masyuk09:01
fairuzjoin le ubuntu-my, nak gak menyumbang ape2 yg patut, kalau ada patch ke ape ke09:01
ApOgEEso, jom la geeknic09:01
ApOgEEfairuz: wah patch mana yg dibikin?09:02
ApOgEEnak tengok boleh?09:02
ApOgEEfairuz: ajar la aku... 09:02
fairuzaku patch kernel ja09:02
fairuztakdak benda baru pun09:02
ApOgEEwah, dlm kernel ada code ko eh?09:03
fairuzlgpun kernel Texas Instrument, bukan kernel upstream09:03
* ApOgEE tak usik pun code kernel... install default je09:03
ApOgEEwoh... ko bikin kernel untuk TI punya board eh?09:04
fairuzaah09:04
fairuzuntuk cip TI09:04
fairuzOMAP409:04
ApOgEEko main ngan Beagle ?09:04
fairuzpernah, tu pakai OMAP309:04
ApOgEEya ya09:04
fairuzko ada beagle ka09:05
ApOgEEaku tak bermodal lagi nak cekau sebutir... meh la09:05
ApOgEEkalo ada09:05
fairuzkeke09:05
ApOgEEnak gak main09:05
ApOgEEaku main ngan embeddedarm je...09:05
ApOgEEARM09:05
fairuzaku pun takdak personal, company punya ade la kat meja aku ni09:05
fairuzbeagle panda ngan Blaze09:05
fairuzbest kan ARM09:05
ApOgEEooo...09:05
ApOgEEkampeni ko bikin apa ngan Beagleboard? kontrol barang?09:06
fairuzeh tak09:06
fairuzbeagleboard kan pakai OMAP309:06
fairuzkitorang la yg bikin OMAP3 tu09:07
ApOgEEooo ko keje ngan TI la eh?09:07
fairuzaa09:07
ApOgEEi see... 09:07
ApOgEEtak dapat beagleboard free ke?09:07
ApOgEEboleh aku eksperimenkan pulak09:07
fairuztak main beagleboard dah09:07
fairuzPandaboard skang09:08
fairuzOMAP4 keke09:08
ApOgEEpandaboard syok?09:08
fairuzaku pakai untuk test kernel ja09:08
fairuzinstall Ubuntu09:08
fairuzdengan Android09:08
ApOgEEhuih... boleh run ubuntu eh?09:08
ApOgEEcun... 09:08
fairuzboleh09:08
fairuzBeagle pun boleh09:08
ApOgEEtu la... aku ada terbaca juga09:08
fairuzasal memory cukup, takdak hal09:09
ApOgEEpandaboard berapa mem?09:09
sweemeng_i want 09:10
sweemeng_i want09:10
fairuztak salah aku 128MB RAM, 256MB Flash09:10
fairuztapi Flash tu tak kesah sbb ko boleh sumbat SD Card09:11
fairuzso UBuntu/Android punya image, boleh flash masuk SD je09:11
fairuzsekali dengan boot partition09:11
fairuzEmbedded Arm yang ko pakai tu pakai ARM mane?09:12
fairuzarm9?09:13
ApOgEEsweemeng_: syok ni, ada orang dalam TI09:13
sweemeng_yeah babe09:14
fairuzkeke kenape09:14
ApOgEEfairuz: ha'ah.. ARM909:15
ApOgEEfairuz: aku run debian-arm je09:15
ApOgEEsweemeng_ juga adalah peminat gejet2 yg pakai linux09:16
ApOgEE;)09:16
fairuzwah best209:16
sweemeng_me arduino onli09:16
ApOgEEfairuz: so, kau la yg bikin kernel untuk OMAP4 ?09:18
fairuzApOgEE: Takde la aku sorang09:18
fairuzSelalunya TI akan amik kernel upstream, pastu tambah la patches untuk support hardware2 yang ada09:19
ApOgEEfairuz, dan ini adalah ko lah ye? --> http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.embedded.pandaboard/116509:19
ApOgEEwah, terel... terel...09:20
fairuzApOgEE: aah, terer apa nye, noob kot09:20
fairuzsusah nak faham menatang ni09:20
ApOgEEfairuz hehe.. aku suka mende2 camni... ada projek mau bikin nanti09:21
fairuzprojek ape tu ApOgEEmeh la cerita sikit09:21
* ApOgEE nak beralih ke pandaboard pulak... nampak mcm best je09:21
fairuzaku minat jugak09:21
ApOgEEfairuz aku bikin projek kanak2 je... anak2 kecil main api09:22
fairuzhehe09:22
fairuznak buat untuk control benda ke09:22
fairuzke web server ke09:22
ApOgEEfairuz ye ye ... kontrol macho09:22
ApOgEEfairuz mana boleh dapat pandaboard ni?09:23
ApOgEEboleh belikan aku sebutir?09:23
fairuzApOgEE: boleh beli kat pandaboard.org tak salah aku09:23
ApOgEEkat m'sia takde ke?09:24
ApOgEEasik2 digi-key je09:24
fairuzhmm aku tak sure dalam Malaysia dia ada distributor ke tak09:25
ApOgEEko tolong la belikan aku sebutir... balik m'sia nanti aku bayar la kat ko09:27
ApOgEEboleh?09:27
ApOgEEfairuz: ko compile kernel dia guna cross-compiler ke?09:28
fairuzSama je kalau aku belikan, pakai digikey gak09:28
fairuzaa, aku pakai CodeSourcery arm-none-linux-gnueabi09:28
fairuzkena pakai cross compiler la, sbb target ARM09:29
ApOgEElol...09:29
ApOgEEaku ingatkan kat sana ada kedai jual runcit209:29
ApOgEEtakpelah kalo cenggitu09:29
fairuztakde la09:30
* ApOgEE ada peluang bukak kedai kat Jln. Pasar ni... jom sweemeng_ 09:30
sweemeng_jom09:30
ApOgEEfairuz: aku ingatkan kalo orang TI beli, boleh dpt diskaun09:31
ApOgEEheheheh09:31
fairuzhehe sama je aku rasa09:31
ApOgEEhmm.. takpe, dah ada geng... nanti boleh aku tanya ko soalan2 newbies09:32
fairuzAlright, nak tolong2 setup boleh la09:33
ApOgEEfairuz: aku main barang ini --> http://coderstalk.blogspot.com/2008/06/some-photos-form-my-offices-desktop.html09:35
fairuzApOgEE: wah, nampak best 09:38
fairuzbudak electronic jugak ApOgEE ni, ingat budak IT09:38
ApOgEEfairuz: heheh... bidan terjun je 09:39
fairuzbest209:42
ApOgEEfairuz, ko dulu belajar elektronik eh?.. 09:43
fairuzaah09:44
fairuzEmbedded System kalau nak tepat lagi09:44
ApOgEEwow... great09:44
ApOgEEaku ni budak sains komputer je... tapi aku keje ngan barang2 embedded ni, belajar dari kerja je09:45
ApOgEEfairuz boleh aku rujuk ko pasal elektronik... currently aku tengah mengkaji Diode untuk kawal flow alternator dan battery09:46
ApOgEEpening gak, bila belajar ngan intenet je09:46
ApOgEEhehehehe09:46
fairuzboleh tu boleh, tapi macam dah ingat2 lupa pure elektronik ni hehe09:47
fairuzTu projek yang sama ke09:48
ApOgEEprojek lain tu... projek sendirian berhad09:48
ApOgEEhehehe...09:48
fairuzhehe09:49
fairuzbest kan main2 ngna elektronik tu, buat circuit sendiri etc09:49
ApOgEEhehehe.. hobi09:50
fairuzkalau aku main2 ngan elektronik mcm tu, aku slalu pakai processor PIC je09:50
fairuzsng + cukup untuk buat control2 IO09:50
fairuzmurah2 pun murah09:50
fairuzs/murah2/murah09:50
ApOgEEfairuz aku dulu cuba gak PIC, pastu ada mamat Iran rekemen kat aku AVR Atmel09:51
ApOgEElagi murah dari PIC09:51
fairuzoo eh?09:51
fairuzbrapa pin dia ada?09:51
ApOgEEsekarang sudah jadi Adruino09:51
fairuzoo09:51
* fairuz tak pernah pakai Arduino09:52
ApOgEEhttp://www.avrfreaks.net/index.php?func=viewItem&item_id=356&module=Freaks%20Tools09:55
fairuzOk senang tak nak pakai09:58
fairuzdia ada kasi programmer tak kalau beli cip dia09:58
ApOgEE8-pin: PIC12F629 ($1.29) v. ATtiny13 ($1.40) 10:00
ApOgEE~20-pin: PIC16F628 ($3.35) v. ATtiny2313 ($2.26)10:01
fairuzmurah210:01
ApOgEE40-pin: PIC18F452 ($10.35) v ATmega32 ($8.17)10:01
ApOgEEfairuz: boleh bikin sendiri...10:03
ApOgEEhttp://www.ladyada.net/make/usbtinyisp/10:03
ApOgEEhttp://electronics-diy.com/avr_programmer.php10:03
fairuzkalau ada bocor circuit programmer tu mane2 best la10:03
fairuzbole buat sendiri10:03
ApOgEEya ya10:04
fairuzkat Malaysia, senang ke nak cari components ni? mesti senang kan10:05
ApOgEEfairuz: ya10:05
ApOgEEkat RS ada10:07
ApOgEEfairuz, ada kawan aku tanya nak bikin isolator diode untuk elak reverse charge dari battery ke alternator10:12
ApOgEEaku ni bukannya pandai elektronik pun.. aku belajar kat google je10:13
ApOgEEhehehe10:13
ApOgEEko rasa, diode apa yg sesuai? dia bagi kat aku 10A10:13
ApOgEEaku tengok, siap dah kene goreng dah10:13
fairuzkena tgk current yang lalu tu brapa la10:16
fairuz10A ke dia kata?10:16
fairuzmak aih byk tu10:16
fairuzmcm bateri kereta plak10:16
ApOgEEya, batteri kereta, lori10:17
ApOgEEdia letak radio10:18
ApOgEEtransmit kuat kot... tu pasal current tinggi10:18
ApOgEEagaknye la 10:18
fairuzbateri kereta mmg current tinggi10:18
fairuzvoltage rendah10:18
ApOgEEooo10:18
fairuz12V je10:19
ApOgEEcurrent berapa?10:19
ApOgEEapasal kene pakai 4 bijik diode paralel?10:19
fairuzeh diode parallel?10:21
fairuzparallel ke dia buat bentuk diamond tu?10:22
ApOgEEdia bagi aku drawing camni, tapi 4 bijik, tanpa resistor tu ---> http://www3.telus.net/chemelec/Projects/Diodes-in-Parallel.jpg10:22
ApOgEEaku kompius gak... nak buat kira210:23
ApOgEEsebab ada reverse gak kan?10:23
ApOgEEpastu kene pakai heatsink lagi... panas nih karen tinggi10:24
ApOgEEye dak?10:24
fairuzkena pakai wayar yang boleh tahan current tinggi10:25
* ApOgEE gaya murid google... main hentam keromok je10:25
ApOgEEhmm... kalo bikin atas PCB boleh ke?10:25
ApOgEEke kene besarkan trace width?10:27
fairuzuih atas PCB 10A hmmm10:29
ApOgEEatau tebal copper dia?10:30
fairuzseingat aku better lebarkan10:30
ApOgEEyg ada semua dah kene goreng je... ;p belum ada yg tahan... tu yg aku kompius tu10:31
fairuzdia dah try lebarkan ke10:31
fairuz10A byk tu10:32
fairuzkena kurang resistance internal trace tu10:32
fairuzso lebarkan la10:32
ApOgEEhmm... nanti aku eksperimen lagi10:33
ApOgEEsetakat ni, semua fried chicken10:34
ApOgEEtu yg aku pening tu10:34
ApOgEEnasib baik jumpa expert elektronik dlm channel ni... ada gak tempat diskusi10:35
ApOgEEhehehe10:35
fairuznoob ja, tolong sket2 boleh la10:37
ApOgEEfairuz: aku kira pakai --> http://circuitcalculator.com/wordpress/2006/01/31/pcb-trace-width-calculator/10:38
ApOgEEtrace tu kene buat lebih kurang 19 mm gak lebarnya10:38
ApOgEEbetul ke aku kira tu.. hehehe10:38
* ApOgEE main belasah je... hahahaa10:39
fairuzptt ok je10:40
ApOgEEhmm... kene bikin balik ... ko ada tempat bikin PCB yg murah?10:40
fairuzeh10:40
fairuz19 mm besar sgt kot10:40
fairuzdia kata 150 mils camtu10:40
ApOgEEuik?10:40
sweemeng_ApOgEE, hackerspacekl10:41
sweemeng_we make our out pcb10:41
sweemeng_with printer and acid!!!!!10:41
ApOgEEsweemeng_: ini projek orang tua2... takmoh main acid10:42
ApOgEEhehehehee10:42
fairuz19 mm == 750 mils10:42
ApOgEEsweemeng_ kalo jadi, aku nak fabricate menatang ni... ada request tu nanti10:42
ApOgEEboleh aku sponsor sikit kat ubuntu-my10:43
ApOgEEhehehehe10:43
sweemeng_heheheheh10:44
ApOgEEfairuz: camne ko dapat 150? aku dapat 73710:44
ApOgEE737mils = 18.7mm10:44
ApOgEEfairuz: ke ko usik kat temp tu?10:45
fairuzApOgEE: aku letak 10 Amps dalam kotak tu10:45
fairuztak10:45
fairuzhttp://www.desmith.net/NMdS/Electronics/TraceWidth.html10:45
fairuzni pun kasi aku result sama10:45
ApOgEEaku letak 10 amp, thickness 1 oz10:46
fairuzoo10:46
fairuzaku biarkan dia 210:46
fairuzko punya 1 ke10:46
ApOgEEsbb aku tengok kat sini, dia bikin 1 oz punya PCB --> http://www.custompcb.com/index.htm10:46
ApOgEEfairuz: aku tak reti kira oz tu pun... hahaha10:47
ApOgEEmaklumlah google punya student10:48
fairuzhehe kena check tebal dia jugak10:48
fairuztu kena check dengan orang yang buat PBC tu la kot, kalau dia fixkan tebal ke, boleh pilih ke10:48
ApOgEEkalo kat custompcb tu, dia buat 1oz aku tengok10:49
ApOgEEko penah buat eagle pakai ubuntu? ko pakai software apa?10:49
fairuzeagle la10:50
fairuztapi windows10:50
ApOgEEi see... ingatkan seme pakai ubuntu10:50
ApOgEEhehehe10:50
* ApOgEE brb10:51
SuMarDihehe10:53
* ApOgEE poke SuMarDi 11:04
ApOgEEls11:55
* ApOgEE balik umah dulu... jumpa lagi 11:55
yuskhanzabexit13:25
GunBladeIVsapa ada>14:11
GunBladeIV?14:11
GunBladeIVanyone?14:11
GunBladeIVting tong!14:12
* GunBladeIV command not recognized14:12
fairuzada14:16
GunBladeIVhoho14:17
GunBladeIVfairuz:- apa bikin?14:17
GunBladeIVfairuz:- tgk the tend ka?14:17
GunBladeIVROFL14:17
fairuzGunBladeIV: Takdak ape14:17
mengi iz editing Apogee's wiki now14:17
GunBladeIVmypapit:- w0ot w0ot..apa bikin bos?14:17
GunBladeIVang edit apa? kutuk2 ke?14:18
GunBladeIVkalau bagi testimoni kutuk2 leh? pastu embed gambar sin chan?14:19
GunBladeIVhaha14:19
mengtak, nak letak gambar 3 buntut bogel ala logo ubuntu14:19
mengpergi edit sentence structure and grammar sikit14:20
GunBladeIVohw.. ko betulkan ayat dlm wiki apogee?14:20
GunBladeIVnice dude14:20
GunBladeIVdulu time aku takde sapa power nk betulkan grammar aku.. 14:20
GunBladeIVpastu siap kene gelak lagi sebab typo error .. 14:21
GunBladeIVada plak aku gune ubuntu sejak tahun berapa tah aku silap14:21
GunBladeIVtak igt14:21
GunBladeIVtahun aku silap taip tu, ubuntu tak wujud lagi14:21
GunBladeIVhaha14:21
GunBladeIVabes satu room gelakkan aku14:21
GunBladeIVtp nasib baik approve14:21
GunBladeIVkeh keh keh14:21
* GunBladeIV w0ot w0ot.. Im not an expired member~! yea..14:22
* GunBladeIV cloaking is back and I am officially Ubuntu Members Once again. kekeke14:22
mengdone14:32
GunBladeIVhehe14:33
mengtapi server cam mati mati ikan14:34
mengapogee kena sort out the version conflicts la14:36
GunBladeIVeh meng14:38
GunBladeIVko piju ke?14:38
mengtak14:38
GunBladeIVlol.. 14:38
GunBladeIVsebab aku tgk last tambah testi is piju14:38
GunBladeIVso i thought you are piju14:39
mengediting I lagi ketara dari testimonial14:39
mengi takde kuasa nak campur tangan dlm ubuntu malaysia pun, mentah I dari Fedora-m14:40
meng*Fedora-my14:40
GunBladeIVhehe14:42
GunBladeIVbuleh je..14:42
GunBladeIVmenyamar la jadi mark shuttleworth14:43
GunBladeIV:D14:43
GunBladeIVmypapit:- hahahaha.. 14:43
mengnak yamar jadi Najib lagi best14:43
GunBladeIVpapit.. aku nye membership dh dpt balik14:43
GunBladeIVhaha.. yeehaaa..14:43
GunBladeIVlol14:43
GunBladeIVnajib bukan IT based14:43
GunBladeIVso testi tak bernilai14:43
GunBladeIVkeke14:43
mengGunBladeIV: just remind apogee utk edit off the version conflicts14:49
GunBladeIVorait14:50
GunBladeIVi'll remind him later on.14:50
GunBladeIVhello nbliang 15:27
nbliangGunBladeIV, hi15:28
GunBladeIVluckily , i got back my ubuntu cloak15:28
GunBladeIVhaha15:28
GunBladeIVbut still waiting for Ubuntu Member reactivation on launchpad15:28
GunBladeIVsilly me15:28
nblianggood15:28
nbliang:)15:28
nbliangmore official members15:28
GunBladeIV never login to ubuntu.com email for more than a year15:28
GunBladeIVthen everything you working for gone15:29
GunBladeIVlol15:29
nbliangmine will be expires this june15:29
GunBladeIVi see.15:29
nblianghow to access the @ubuntu.com mail?15:29
GunBladeIVhave you click on the reactivation ?15:29
GunBladeIVyou have to redirect the email to your current active mail15:29
GunBladeIVas for me, i am using ubuntu.com.my email to retrieve ubuntu.com15:29
nbliangyeah, all my @ubuntu.com mail is redirected to my gmail15:30
nbliangoic15:30
GunBladeIVlol15:30
GunBladeIVhave you setup ubuntu.com email?15:30
GunBladeIVbut i rarely check my ubuntu mail15:31
GunBladeIVcuz at one time, i need a personal time15:31
GunBladeIV:)15:31
GunBladeIVso thats why im like a ghost for past few years15:31
nbliangi think I still have the ubuntu.com email15:33
nbliang:P have to test it out15:33
nbliangi also have been "ghost" for the past few month/year ;p15:34
nblianghopefully can be active back, but familycome first15:35
nbliangyeah !! my @ubuntu.com mail still working15:37
GunBladeIVhaha15:37
GunBladeIVsurely working nbliang 15:37
GunBladeIVit will stop working once you become unofficial members15:38
GunBladeIVand i dont know if mine is working15:38
GunBladeIVcould you send me a test mail to gunbladeiv@ubuntu.com?15:38
nblianghehe...15:38
GunBladeIVthank you15:38
nbliangk, wait15:38
GunBladeIVbut im sure that @ubuntu.com.my is working15:39
GunBladeIVlolz15:39
nbliangGunBladeIV, sent to ur @ubuntu.com15:39
GunBladeIVorait15:40
GunBladeIVnow i should push F9 to send/recieve15:40
GunBladeIVhaha15:40
GunBladeIVYea~! [Gunbladeiv, this is a test mail.15:41
GunBladeIV]15:41
GunBladeIVgot your mail15:41
GunBladeIVso the postman is still working for me15:41
GunBladeIVhaha15:41
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nblianghehee... yeah15:42
GunBladeIVnbliang.. who else beside ejat, me, you and piju that official members of ubuntu?15:48
nbliangi think that's all15:49
nblianglinuxmalaysia oredi expires, hope other can join in15:49
GunBladeIVtell linuxmalaysia that he can reactivate the membership loo15:50
GunBladeIVmine was expired too15:50
GunBladeIVi just got it back today15:50
GunBladeIVyesterday, my ip still not cloaked15:50
nbliangic ic15:52
nbliangyeah, that will be good if can re-activate it back15:52
nbliangbtw, u finish ur study?15:52
nbliangor still in progress?15:53
GunBladeIVim still trying my best to get my degree15:57
GunBladeIVbut now working with a company15:57
GunBladeIVbeen working to upgrade a software 15:58
GunBladeIVprogramming stuff15:58
GunBladeIVbut bore15:58
GunBladeIVhehe15:58
nbliangoic15:59
GunBladeIVhow about you?15:59
GunBladeIVstill on open sos business ?16:00
GunBladeIVunfortunately my work need me to use windows16:00
GunBladeIVso i vm it16:00
GunBladeIVhaha16:00
nbliangwell, i am now a software tester16:02
nbliangand also need to use windows16:02
nbliangonly at home when not touching any of my work, i will use linux16:03
fairuzhello216:03
GunBladeIVhello hello hello hello16:08
GunBladeIVhaha16:09
GunBladeIVsame la16:09
GunBladeIVi dont think in malaysia you could easily escape from windows environment16:09
GunBladeIVespecially when working16:09
nbliangGunBladeIV, agree16:13
nbliangnot at this time, maybe in the next few years then we can start to see company fully using linux / bsd16:13
* fairuz agrees too16:13
GunBladeIVyup.. but need to persuade govt sector 16:14
GunBladeIVonce government are keen in using open sos.. then private sector will slowly migrate16:15
mengopen sos chili?16:21
nbliangsorry guys, need to offline, see u again16:22
GunBladeIVopen la meng sorang216:27
GunBladeIVhaha16:27
=== fairuz is now known as fairuz_
=== adlan_ is now known as adlan
=== KatieKitty is now known as Katie-Offline
=== KatieKitty is now known as Katie-Offline

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