=== Katie-Offline is now known as KatieKitty === KatieKitty is now known as Katie-Offline [02:53] hi all === Katie-Offline is now known as KatieKitty [03:17] hi hyperair [03:18] good morning [03:18] morning === KatieKitty is now known as Katie-Offline === Katie-Offline is now known as KatieKitty [04:11] hi guys === KatieKitty is now known as Katie-Offline [07:45] salam, morning [08:07] fairus ni kat malaysia ke mana? [08:09] sekarang dah petang dah [08:18] bukan kat malaysia [08:18] explains [08:18] thats why it is in the morning [08:19] yup2 === wisevoyager is now known as ahmed_khan_ameer [08:49] Assalamu 'alaikum.., senyap jer sumer sibuk bekerja kot? :D [08:57] salam fairuz [08:57] fairuz: kau kat mana tu? [08:57] salam ApOgEE [08:57] kat opis [08:57] bukan malaysia? [08:57] oh bukan [08:57] kat France [08:57] i see... [08:57] * ApOgEE percaya je... [08:57] jauhnye ko keje [08:58] keke sampai masa aku balik la [08:58] ko balik m'sia tiap2 hari ke? [08:58] atau seminggu sekali? [08:59] syok ke kat France tu? [08:59] camne ko boleh terjoin ubuntu-my ni? [09:00] * ApOgEE apasal aku banyak soalan pulak ni?... [09:00] :p [09:00] kehkeh [09:00] ade ke balik tiap2 minggu, bukan jutawan pun [09:01] ooo... ingatkan bilionaire sudah... keje kat France.. masyuk [09:01] join le ubuntu-my, nak gak menyumbang ape2 yg patut, kalau ada patch ke ape ke [09:01] so, jom la geeknic [09:02] fairuz: wah patch mana yg dibikin? [09:02] nak tengok boleh? [09:02] fairuz: ajar la aku... [09:02] aku patch kernel ja [09:02] takdak benda baru pun [09:03] wah, dlm kernel ada code ko eh? [09:03] lgpun kernel Texas Instrument, bukan kernel upstream [09:03] * ApOgEE tak usik pun code kernel... install default je [09:04] woh... ko bikin kernel untuk TI punya board eh? [09:04] aah [09:04] untuk cip TI [09:04] OMAP4 [09:04] ko main ngan Beagle ? [09:04] pernah, tu pakai OMAP3 [09:04] ya ya [09:05] ko ada beagle ka [09:05] aku tak bermodal lagi nak cekau sebutir... meh la [09:05] kalo ada [09:05] keke [09:05] nak gak main [09:05] aku main ngan embeddedarm je... [09:05] ARM [09:05] aku pun takdak personal, company punya ade la kat meja aku ni [09:05] beagle panda ngan Blaze [09:05] best kan ARM [09:05] ooo... [09:06] kampeni ko bikin apa ngan Beagleboard? kontrol barang? [09:06] eh tak [09:06] beagleboard kan pakai OMAP3 [09:07] kitorang la yg bikin OMAP3 tu [09:07] ooo ko keje ngan TI la eh? [09:07] aa [09:07] i see... [09:07] tak dapat beagleboard free ke? [09:07] boleh aku eksperimenkan pulak [09:07] tak main beagleboard dah [09:08] Pandaboard skang [09:08] OMAP4 keke [09:08] pandaboard syok? [09:08] aku pakai untuk test kernel ja [09:08] install Ubuntu [09:08] dengan Android [09:08] huih... boleh run ubuntu eh? [09:08] cun... [09:08] boleh [09:08] Beagle pun boleh [09:08] tu la... aku ada terbaca juga [09:09] asal memory cukup, takdak hal [09:09] pandaboard berapa mem? [09:10] i want [09:10] i want [09:10] tak salah aku 128MB RAM, 256MB Flash [09:11] tapi Flash tu tak kesah sbb ko boleh sumbat SD Card [09:11] so UBuntu/Android punya image, boleh flash masuk SD je [09:11] sekali dengan boot partition [09:12] Embedded Arm yang ko pakai tu pakai ARM mane? [09:13] arm9? [09:13] sweemeng_: syok ni, ada orang dalam TI [09:14] yeah babe [09:14] keke kenape [09:15] fairuz: ha'ah.. ARM9 [09:15] fairuz: aku run debian-arm je [09:16] sweemeng_ juga adalah peminat gejet2 yg pakai linux [09:16] ;) [09:16] wah best2 [09:16] me arduino onli [09:18] fairuz: so, kau la yg bikin kernel untuk OMAP4 ? [09:18] ApOgEE: Takde la aku sorang [09:19] Selalunya TI akan amik kernel upstream, pastu tambah la patches untuk support hardware2 yang ada [09:19] fairuz, dan ini adalah ko lah ye? --> http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.embedded.pandaboard/1165 [09:20] wah, terel... terel... [09:20] ApOgEE: aah, terer apa nye, noob kot [09:20] susah nak faham menatang ni [09:21] fairuz hehe.. aku suka mende2 camni... ada projek mau bikin nanti [09:21] projek ape tu ApOgEEmeh la cerita sikit [09:21] * ApOgEE nak beralih ke pandaboard pulak... nampak mcm best je [09:21] aku minat jugak [09:22] fairuz aku bikin projek kanak2 je... anak2 kecil main api [09:22] hehe [09:22] nak buat untuk control benda ke [09:22] ke web server ke [09:22] fairuz ye ye ... kontrol macho [09:23] fairuz mana boleh dapat pandaboard ni? [09:23] boleh belikan aku sebutir? [09:23] ApOgEE: boleh beli kat pandaboard.org tak salah aku [09:24] kat m'sia takde ke? [09:24] asik2 digi-key je [09:25] hmm aku tak sure dalam Malaysia dia ada distributor ke tak [09:27] ko tolong la belikan aku sebutir... balik m'sia nanti aku bayar la kat ko [09:27] boleh? [09:28] fairuz: ko compile kernel dia guna cross-compiler ke? [09:28] Sama je kalau aku belikan, pakai digikey gak [09:28] aa, aku pakai CodeSourcery arm-none-linux-gnueabi [09:29] kena pakai cross compiler la, sbb target ARM [09:29] lol... [09:29] aku ingatkan kat sana ada kedai jual runcit2 [09:29] takpelah kalo cenggitu [09:30] takde la [09:30] * ApOgEE ada peluang bukak kedai kat Jln. Pasar ni... jom sweemeng_ [09:30] jom [09:31] fairuz: aku ingatkan kalo orang TI beli, boleh dpt diskaun [09:31] heheheh [09:31] hehe sama je aku rasa [09:32] hmm.. takpe, dah ada geng... nanti boleh aku tanya ko soalan2 newbies [09:33] Alright, nak tolong2 setup boleh la [09:35] fairuz: aku main barang ini --> http://coderstalk.blogspot.com/2008/06/some-photos-form-my-offices-desktop.html [09:38] ApOgEE: wah, nampak best [09:38] budak electronic jugak ApOgEE ni, ingat budak IT [09:39] fairuz: heheh... bidan terjun je [09:42] best2 [09:43] fairuz, ko dulu belajar elektronik eh?.. [09:44] aah [09:44] Embedded System kalau nak tepat lagi [09:44] wow... great [09:45] aku ni budak sains komputer je... tapi aku keje ngan barang2 embedded ni, belajar dari kerja je [09:46] fairuz boleh aku rujuk ko pasal elektronik... currently aku tengah mengkaji Diode untuk kawal flow alternator dan battery [09:46] pening gak, bila belajar ngan intenet je [09:46] hehehehe [09:47] boleh tu boleh, tapi macam dah ingat2 lupa pure elektronik ni hehe [09:48] Tu projek yang sama ke [09:48] projek lain tu... projek sendirian berhad [09:48] hehehe... [09:49] hehe [09:49] best kan main2 ngna elektronik tu, buat circuit sendiri etc [09:50] hehehe.. hobi [09:50] kalau aku main2 ngan elektronik mcm tu, aku slalu pakai processor PIC je [09:50] sng + cukup untuk buat control2 IO [09:50] murah2 pun murah [09:50] s/murah2/murah [09:51] fairuz aku dulu cuba gak PIC, pastu ada mamat Iran rekemen kat aku AVR Atmel [09:51] lagi murah dari PIC [09:51] oo eh? [09:51] brapa pin dia ada? [09:51] sekarang sudah jadi Adruino [09:51] oo [09:52] * fairuz tak pernah pakai Arduino [09:55] http://www.avrfreaks.net/index.php?func=viewItem&item_id=356&module=Freaks%20Tools [09:58] Ok senang tak nak pakai [09:58] dia ada kasi programmer tak kalau beli cip dia [10:00] 8-pin: PIC12F629 ($1.29) v. ATtiny13 ($1.40) [10:01] ~20-pin: PIC16F628 ($3.35) v. ATtiny2313 ($2.26) [10:01] murah2 [10:01] 40-pin: PIC18F452 ($10.35) v ATmega32 ($8.17) [10:03] fairuz: boleh bikin sendiri... [10:03] http://www.ladyada.net/make/usbtinyisp/ [10:03] http://electronics-diy.com/avr_programmer.php [10:03] kalau ada bocor circuit programmer tu mane2 best la [10:03] bole buat sendiri [10:04] ya ya [10:05] kat Malaysia, senang ke nak cari components ni? mesti senang kan [10:05] fairuz: ya [10:07] kat RS ada [10:12] fairuz, ada kawan aku tanya nak bikin isolator diode untuk elak reverse charge dari battery ke alternator [10:13] aku ni bukannya pandai elektronik pun.. aku belajar kat google je [10:13] hehehe [10:13] ko rasa, diode apa yg sesuai? dia bagi kat aku 10A [10:13] aku tengok, siap dah kene goreng dah [10:16] kena tgk current yang lalu tu brapa la [10:16] 10A ke dia kata? [10:16] mak aih byk tu [10:16] mcm bateri kereta plak [10:17] ya, batteri kereta, lori [10:18] dia letak radio [10:18] transmit kuat kot... tu pasal current tinggi [10:18] agaknye la [10:18] bateri kereta mmg current tinggi [10:18] voltage rendah [10:18] ooo [10:19] 12V je [10:19] current berapa? [10:19] apasal kene pakai 4 bijik diode paralel? [10:21] eh diode parallel? [10:22] parallel ke dia buat bentuk diamond tu? [10:22] dia bagi aku drawing camni, tapi 4 bijik, tanpa resistor tu ---> http://www3.telus.net/chemelec/Projects/Diodes-in-Parallel.jpg [10:23] aku kompius gak... nak buat kira2 [10:23] sebab ada reverse gak kan? [10:24] pastu kene pakai heatsink lagi... panas nih karen tinggi [10:24] ye dak? [10:25] kena pakai wayar yang boleh tahan current tinggi [10:25] * ApOgEE gaya murid google... main hentam keromok je [10:25] hmm... kalo bikin atas PCB boleh ke? [10:27] ke kene besarkan trace width? [10:29] uih atas PCB 10A hmmm [10:30] atau tebal copper dia? [10:30] seingat aku better lebarkan [10:31] yg ada semua dah kene goreng je... ;p belum ada yg tahan... tu yg aku kompius tu [10:31] dia dah try lebarkan ke [10:32] 10A byk tu [10:32] kena kurang resistance internal trace tu [10:32] so lebarkan la [10:33] hmm... nanti aku eksperimen lagi [10:34] setakat ni, semua fried chicken [10:34] tu yg aku pening tu [10:35] nasib baik jumpa expert elektronik dlm channel ni... ada gak tempat diskusi [10:35] hehehe [10:37] noob ja, tolong sket2 boleh la [10:38] fairuz: aku kira pakai --> http://circuitcalculator.com/wordpress/2006/01/31/pcb-trace-width-calculator/ [10:38] trace tu kene buat lebih kurang 19 mm gak lebarnya [10:38] betul ke aku kira tu.. hehehe [10:39] * ApOgEE main belasah je... hahahaa [10:40] ptt ok je [10:40] hmm... kene bikin balik ... ko ada tempat bikin PCB yg murah? [10:40] eh [10:40] 19 mm besar sgt kot [10:40] dia kata 150 mils camtu [10:40] uik? [10:41] ApOgEE, hackerspacekl [10:41] we make our out pcb [10:41] with printer and acid!!!!! [10:42] sweemeng_: ini projek orang tua2... takmoh main acid [10:42] hehehehee [10:42] 19 mm == 750 mils [10:42] sweemeng_ kalo jadi, aku nak fabricate menatang ni... ada request tu nanti [10:43] boleh aku sponsor sikit kat ubuntu-my [10:43] hehehehe [10:44] heheheheh [10:44] fairuz: camne ko dapat 150? aku dapat 737 [10:44] 737mils = 18.7mm [10:45] fairuz: ke ko usik kat temp tu? [10:45] ApOgEE: aku letak 10 Amps dalam kotak tu [10:45] tak [10:45] http://www.desmith.net/NMdS/Electronics/TraceWidth.html [10:45] ni pun kasi aku result sama [10:46] aku letak 10 amp, thickness 1 oz [10:46] oo [10:46] aku biarkan dia 2 [10:46] ko punya 1 ke [10:46] sbb aku tengok kat sini, dia bikin 1 oz punya PCB --> http://www.custompcb.com/index.htm [10:47] fairuz: aku tak reti kira oz tu pun... hahaha [10:48] maklumlah google punya student [10:48] hehe kena check tebal dia jugak [10:48] tu kena check dengan orang yang buat PBC tu la kot, kalau dia fixkan tebal ke, boleh pilih ke [10:49] kalo kat custompcb tu, dia buat 1oz aku tengok [10:49] ko penah buat eagle pakai ubuntu? ko pakai software apa? [10:50] eagle la [10:50] tapi windows [10:50] i see... ingatkan seme pakai ubuntu [10:50] hehehe [10:51] * ApOgEE brb [10:53] hehe [11:04] * ApOgEE poke SuMarDi [11:55] ls [11:55] * ApOgEE balik umah dulu... jumpa lagi [13:25] exit [14:11] sapa ada> [14:11] ? [14:11] anyone? [14:12] ting tong! [14:12] * GunBladeIV command not recognized [14:16] ada [14:17] hoho [14:17] fairuz:- apa bikin? [14:17] fairuz:- tgk the tend ka? [14:17] ROFL [14:17] GunBladeIV: Takdak ape [14:17] i iz editing Apogee's wiki now [14:17] mypapit:- w0ot w0ot..apa bikin bos? [14:18] ang edit apa? kutuk2 ke? [14:19] kalau bagi testimoni kutuk2 leh? pastu embed gambar sin chan? [14:19] haha [14:19] tak, nak letak gambar 3 buntut bogel ala logo ubuntu [14:20] pergi edit sentence structure and grammar sikit [14:20] ohw.. ko betulkan ayat dlm wiki apogee? [14:20] nice dude [14:20] dulu time aku takde sapa power nk betulkan grammar aku.. [14:21] pastu siap kene gelak lagi sebab typo error .. [14:21] ada plak aku gune ubuntu sejak tahun berapa tah aku silap [14:21] tak igt [14:21] tahun aku silap taip tu, ubuntu tak wujud lagi [14:21] haha [14:21] abes satu room gelakkan aku [14:21] tp nasib baik approve [14:21] keh keh keh [14:22] * GunBladeIV w0ot w0ot.. Im not an expired member~! yea.. [14:22] * GunBladeIV cloaking is back and I am officially Ubuntu Members Once again. kekeke [14:32] done [14:33] hehe [14:34] tapi server cam mati mati ikan [14:36] apogee kena sort out the version conflicts la [14:38] eh meng [14:38] ko piju ke? [14:38] tak [14:38] lol.. [14:38] sebab aku tgk last tambah testi is piju [14:39] so i thought you are piju [14:39] editing I lagi ketara dari testimonial [14:40] i takde kuasa nak campur tangan dlm ubuntu malaysia pun, mentah I dari Fedora-m [14:40] *Fedora-my [14:42] hehe [14:42] buleh je.. [14:43] menyamar la jadi mark shuttleworth [14:43] :D [14:43] mypapit:- hahahaha.. [14:43] nak yamar jadi Najib lagi best [14:43] papit.. aku nye membership dh dpt balik [14:43] haha.. yeehaaa.. [14:43] lol [14:43] najib bukan IT based [14:43] so testi tak bernilai [14:43] keke [14:49] GunBladeIV: just remind apogee utk edit off the version conflicts [14:50] orait [14:50] i'll remind him later on. [15:27] hello nbliang [15:28] GunBladeIV, hi [15:28] luckily , i got back my ubuntu cloak [15:28] haha [15:28] but still waiting for Ubuntu Member reactivation on launchpad [15:28] silly me [15:28] good [15:28] :) [15:28] more official members [15:28] never login to ubuntu.com email for more than a year [15:29] then everything you working for gone [15:29] lol [15:29] mine will be expires this june [15:29] i see. [15:29] how to access the @ubuntu.com mail? [15:29] have you click on the reactivation ? [15:29] you have to redirect the email to your current active mail [15:29] as for me, i am using ubuntu.com.my email to retrieve ubuntu.com [15:30] yeah, all my @ubuntu.com mail is redirected to my gmail [15:30] oic [15:30] lol [15:30] have you setup ubuntu.com email? [15:31] but i rarely check my ubuntu mail [15:31] cuz at one time, i need a personal time [15:31] :) [15:31] so thats why im like a ghost for past few years [15:33] i think I still have the ubuntu.com email [15:33] :P have to test it out [15:34] i also have been "ghost" for the past few month/year ;p [15:35] hopefully can be active back, but familycome first [15:37] yeah !! my @ubuntu.com mail still working [15:37] haha [15:37] surely working nbliang [15:38] it will stop working once you become unofficial members [15:38] and i dont know if mine is working [15:38] could you send me a test mail to gunbladeiv@ubuntu.com? [15:38] hehe... [15:38] thank you [15:38] k, wait [15:39] but im sure that @ubuntu.com.my is working [15:39] lolz [15:39] GunBladeIV, sent to ur @ubuntu.com [15:40] orait [15:40] now i should push F9 to send/recieve [15:40] haha [15:41] Yea~! [Gunbladeiv, this is a test mail. [15:41] ] [15:41] got your mail [15:41] so the postman is still working for me [15:41] haha === Katie-Offline is now known as KatieKitty [15:42] hehee... yeah [15:48] nbliang.. who else beside ejat, me, you and piju that official members of ubuntu? [15:49] i think that's all [15:49] linuxmalaysia oredi expires, hope other can join in [15:50] tell linuxmalaysia that he can reactivate the membership loo [15:50] mine was expired too [15:50] i just got it back today [15:50] yesterday, my ip still not cloaked [15:52] ic ic [15:52] yeah, that will be good if can re-activate it back [15:52] btw, u finish ur study? [15:53] or still in progress? [15:57] im still trying my best to get my degree [15:57] but now working with a company [15:58] been working to upgrade a software [15:58] programming stuff [15:58] but bore [15:58] hehe [15:59] oic [15:59] how about you? [16:00] still on open sos business ? [16:00] unfortunately my work need me to use windows [16:00] so i vm it [16:00] haha [16:02] well, i am now a software tester [16:02] and also need to use windows [16:03] only at home when not touching any of my work, i will use linux [16:03] hello2 [16:08] hello hello hello hello [16:09] haha [16:09] same la [16:09] i dont think in malaysia you could easily escape from windows environment [16:09] especially when working [16:13] GunBladeIV, agree [16:13] not at this time, maybe in the next few years then we can start to see company fully using linux / bsd [16:13] * fairuz agrees too [16:14] yup.. but need to persuade govt sector [16:15] once government are keen in using open sos.. then private sector will slowly migrate [16:21] open sos chili? [16:22] sorry guys, need to offline, see u again [16:27] open la meng sorang2 [16:27] haha === fairuz is now known as fairuz_ === adlan_ is now known as adlan === KatieKitty is now known as Katie-Offline === KatieKitty is now known as Katie-Offline