[02:53] <ApOgEE> hi all
[03:17] <ApOgEE> hi hyperair 
[03:18] <ApOgEE> good morning
[03:18] <hyperair> morning
[04:11] <sweemeng> hi guys
[07:45] <fairuz> salam, morning
[08:07] <sweemeng> fairus ni kat malaysia ke mana?
[08:09] <sweemeng> sekarang dah petang dah
[08:18] <fairuz> bukan kat malaysia
[08:18] <sweemeng_> explains
[08:18] <sweemeng_> thats why it is in the morning
[08:19] <fairuz> yup2
[08:49] <ahmed_khan_ameer> Assalamu 'alaikum.., senyap jer sumer sibuk bekerja kot? :D
[08:57] <ApOgEE> salam fairuz 
[08:57] <ApOgEE> fairuz: kau kat mana tu?
[08:57] <fairuz> salam ApOgEE
[08:57] <fairuz> kat opis
[08:57] <ApOgEE> bukan malaysia?
[08:57] <fairuz> oh bukan
[08:57] <fairuz> kat France
[08:57] <ApOgEE> i see...
[08:57]  * ApOgEE percaya je...
[08:57] <ApOgEE> jauhnye ko keje
[08:58] <fairuz> keke sampai masa aku balik la
[08:58] <ApOgEE> ko balik m'sia tiap2 hari ke?
[08:58] <ApOgEE> atau seminggu sekali?
[08:59] <ApOgEE> syok ke kat France tu?
[08:59] <ApOgEE> camne ko boleh terjoin ubuntu-my ni?
[09:00]  * ApOgEE apasal aku banyak soalan pulak ni?...
[09:00] <ApOgEE> :p
[09:00] <fairuz> kehkeh
[09:00] <fairuz> ade ke balik tiap2 minggu, bukan jutawan pun
[09:01] <ApOgEE> ooo... ingatkan bilionaire sudah... keje kat France.. masyuk
[09:01] <fairuz> join le ubuntu-my, nak gak menyumbang ape2 yg patut, kalau ada patch ke ape ke
[09:01] <ApOgEE> so, jom la geeknic
[09:02] <ApOgEE> fairuz: wah patch mana yg dibikin?
[09:02] <ApOgEE> nak tengok boleh?
[09:02] <ApOgEE> fairuz: ajar la aku... 
[09:02] <fairuz> aku patch kernel ja
[09:02] <fairuz> takdak benda baru pun
[09:03] <ApOgEE> wah, dlm kernel ada code ko eh?
[09:03] <fairuz> lgpun kernel Texas Instrument, bukan kernel upstream
[09:03]  * ApOgEE tak usik pun code kernel... install default je
[09:04] <ApOgEE> woh... ko bikin kernel untuk TI punya board eh?
[09:04] <fairuz> aah
[09:04] <fairuz> untuk cip TI
[09:04] <fairuz> OMAP4
[09:04] <ApOgEE> ko main ngan Beagle ?
[09:04] <fairuz> pernah, tu pakai OMAP3
[09:04] <ApOgEE> ya ya
[09:05] <fairuz> ko ada beagle ka
[09:05] <ApOgEE> aku tak bermodal lagi nak cekau sebutir... meh la
[09:05] <ApOgEE> kalo ada
[09:05] <fairuz> keke
[09:05] <ApOgEE> nak gak main
[09:05] <ApOgEE> aku main ngan embeddedarm je...
[09:05] <ApOgEE> ARM
[09:05] <fairuz> aku pun takdak personal, company punya ade la kat meja aku ni
[09:05] <fairuz> beagle panda ngan Blaze
[09:05] <fairuz> best kan ARM
[09:05] <ApOgEE> ooo...
[09:06] <ApOgEE> kampeni ko bikin apa ngan Beagleboard? kontrol barang?
[09:06] <fairuz> eh tak
[09:06] <fairuz> beagleboard kan pakai OMAP3
[09:07] <fairuz> kitorang la yg bikin OMAP3 tu
[09:07] <ApOgEE> ooo ko keje ngan TI la eh?
[09:07] <fairuz> aa
[09:07] <ApOgEE> i see... 
[09:07] <ApOgEE> tak dapat beagleboard free ke?
[09:07] <ApOgEE> boleh aku eksperimenkan pulak
[09:07] <fairuz> tak main beagleboard dah
[09:08] <fairuz> Pandaboard skang
[09:08] <fairuz> OMAP4 keke
[09:08] <ApOgEE> pandaboard syok?
[09:08] <fairuz> aku pakai untuk test kernel ja
[09:08] <fairuz> install Ubuntu
[09:08] <fairuz> dengan Android
[09:08] <ApOgEE> huih... boleh run ubuntu eh?
[09:08] <ApOgEE> cun... 
[09:08] <fairuz> boleh
[09:08] <fairuz> Beagle pun boleh
[09:08] <ApOgEE> tu la... aku ada terbaca juga
[09:09] <fairuz> asal memory cukup, takdak hal
[09:09] <ApOgEE> pandaboard berapa mem?
[09:10] <sweemeng_> i want 
[09:10] <sweemeng_> i want
[09:10] <fairuz> tak salah aku 128MB RAM, 256MB Flash
[09:11] <fairuz> tapi Flash tu tak kesah sbb ko boleh sumbat SD Card
[09:11] <fairuz> so UBuntu/Android punya image, boleh flash masuk SD je
[09:11] <fairuz> sekali dengan boot partition
[09:12] <fairuz> Embedded Arm yang ko pakai tu pakai ARM mane?
[09:13] <fairuz> arm9?
[09:13] <ApOgEE> sweemeng_: syok ni, ada orang dalam TI
[09:14] <sweemeng_> yeah babe
[09:14] <fairuz> keke kenape
[09:15] <ApOgEE> fairuz: ha'ah.. ARM9
[09:15] <ApOgEE> fairuz: aku run debian-arm je
[09:16] <ApOgEE> sweemeng_ juga adalah peminat gejet2 yg pakai linux
[09:16] <ApOgEE> ;)
[09:16] <fairuz> wah best2
[09:16] <sweemeng_> me arduino onli
[09:18] <ApOgEE> fairuz: so, kau la yg bikin kernel untuk OMAP4 ?
[09:18] <fairuz> ApOgEE: Takde la aku sorang
[09:19] <fairuz> Selalunya TI akan amik kernel upstream, pastu tambah la patches untuk support hardware2 yang ada
[09:19] <ApOgEE> fairuz, dan ini adalah ko lah ye? --> http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.embedded.pandaboard/1165
[09:20] <ApOgEE> wah, terel... terel...
[09:20] <fairuz> ApOgEE: aah, terer apa nye, noob kot
[09:20] <fairuz> susah nak faham menatang ni
[09:21] <ApOgEE> fairuz hehe.. aku suka mende2 camni... ada projek mau bikin nanti
[09:21] <fairuz> projek ape tu ApOgEEmeh la cerita sikit
[09:21]  * ApOgEE nak beralih ke pandaboard pulak... nampak mcm best je
[09:21] <fairuz> aku minat jugak
[09:22] <ApOgEE> fairuz aku bikin projek kanak2 je... anak2 kecil main api
[09:22] <fairuz> hehe
[09:22] <fairuz> nak buat untuk control benda ke
[09:22] <fairuz> ke web server ke
[09:22] <ApOgEE> fairuz ye ye ... kontrol macho
[09:23] <ApOgEE> fairuz mana boleh dapat pandaboard ni?
[09:23] <ApOgEE> boleh belikan aku sebutir?
[09:23] <fairuz> ApOgEE: boleh beli kat pandaboard.org tak salah aku
[09:24] <ApOgEE> kat m'sia takde ke?
[09:24] <ApOgEE> asik2 digi-key je
[09:25] <fairuz> hmm aku tak sure dalam Malaysia dia ada distributor ke tak
[09:27] <ApOgEE> ko tolong la belikan aku sebutir... balik m'sia nanti aku bayar la kat ko
[09:27] <ApOgEE> boleh?
[09:28] <ApOgEE> fairuz: ko compile kernel dia guna cross-compiler ke?
[09:28] <fairuz> Sama je kalau aku belikan, pakai digikey gak
[09:28] <fairuz> aa, aku pakai CodeSourcery arm-none-linux-gnueabi
[09:29] <fairuz> kena pakai cross compiler la, sbb target ARM
[09:29] <ApOgEE> lol...
[09:29] <ApOgEE> aku ingatkan kat sana ada kedai jual runcit2
[09:29] <ApOgEE> takpelah kalo cenggitu
[09:30] <fairuz> takde la
[09:30]  * ApOgEE ada peluang bukak kedai kat Jln. Pasar ni... jom sweemeng_ 
[09:30] <sweemeng_> jom
[09:31] <ApOgEE> fairuz: aku ingatkan kalo orang TI beli, boleh dpt diskaun
[09:31] <ApOgEE> heheheh
[09:31] <fairuz> hehe sama je aku rasa
[09:32] <ApOgEE> hmm.. takpe, dah ada geng... nanti boleh aku tanya ko soalan2 newbies
[09:33] <fairuz> Alright, nak tolong2 setup boleh la
[09:35] <ApOgEE> fairuz: aku main barang ini --> http://coderstalk.blogspot.com/2008/06/some-photos-form-my-offices-desktop.html
[09:38] <fairuz> ApOgEE: wah, nampak best 
[09:38] <fairuz> budak electronic jugak ApOgEE ni, ingat budak IT
[09:39] <ApOgEE> fairuz: heheh... bidan terjun je 
[09:42] <fairuz> best2
[09:43] <ApOgEE> fairuz, ko dulu belajar elektronik eh?.. 
[09:44] <fairuz> aah
[09:44] <fairuz> Embedded System kalau nak tepat lagi
[09:44] <ApOgEE> wow... great
[09:45] <ApOgEE> aku ni budak sains komputer je... tapi aku keje ngan barang2 embedded ni, belajar dari kerja je
[09:46] <ApOgEE> fairuz boleh aku rujuk ko pasal elektronik... currently aku tengah mengkaji Diode untuk kawal flow alternator dan battery
[09:46] <ApOgEE> pening gak, bila belajar ngan intenet je
[09:46] <ApOgEE> hehehehe
[09:47] <fairuz> boleh tu boleh, tapi macam dah ingat2 lupa pure elektronik ni hehe
[09:48] <fairuz> Tu projek yang sama ke
[09:48] <ApOgEE> projek lain tu... projek sendirian berhad
[09:48] <ApOgEE> hehehe...
[09:49] <fairuz> hehe
[09:49] <fairuz> best kan main2 ngna elektronik tu, buat circuit sendiri etc
[09:50] <ApOgEE> hehehe.. hobi
[09:50] <fairuz> kalau aku main2 ngan elektronik mcm tu, aku slalu pakai processor PIC je
[09:50] <fairuz> sng + cukup untuk buat control2 IO
[09:50] <fairuz> murah2 pun murah
[09:50] <fairuz> s/murah2/murah
[09:51] <ApOgEE> fairuz aku dulu cuba gak PIC, pastu ada mamat Iran rekemen kat aku AVR Atmel
[09:51] <ApOgEE> lagi murah dari PIC
[09:51] <fairuz> oo eh?
[09:51] <fairuz> brapa pin dia ada?
[09:51] <ApOgEE> sekarang sudah jadi Adruino
[09:51] <fairuz> oo
[09:52]  * fairuz tak pernah pakai Arduino
[09:55] <ApOgEE> http://www.avrfreaks.net/index.php?func=viewItem&item_id=356&module=Freaks%20Tools
[09:58] <fairuz> Ok senang tak nak pakai
[09:58] <fairuz> dia ada kasi programmer tak kalau beli cip dia
[10:00] <ApOgEE> 8-pin: PIC12F629 ($1.29) v. ATtiny13 ($1.40) 
[10:01] <ApOgEE> ~20-pin: PIC16F628 ($3.35) v. ATtiny2313 ($2.26)
[10:01] <fairuz> murah2
[10:01] <ApOgEE> 40-pin: PIC18F452 ($10.35) v ATmega32 ($8.17)
[10:03] <ApOgEE> fairuz: boleh bikin sendiri...
[10:03] <ApOgEE> http://www.ladyada.net/make/usbtinyisp/
[10:03] <ApOgEE> http://electronics-diy.com/avr_programmer.php
[10:03] <fairuz> kalau ada bocor circuit programmer tu mane2 best la
[10:03] <fairuz> bole buat sendiri
[10:04] <ApOgEE> ya ya
[10:05] <fairuz> kat Malaysia, senang ke nak cari components ni? mesti senang kan
[10:05] <ApOgEE> fairuz: ya
[10:07] <ApOgEE> kat RS ada
[10:12] <ApOgEE> fairuz, ada kawan aku tanya nak bikin isolator diode untuk elak reverse charge dari battery ke alternator
[10:13] <ApOgEE> aku ni bukannya pandai elektronik pun.. aku belajar kat google je
[10:13] <ApOgEE> hehehe
[10:13] <ApOgEE> ko rasa, diode apa yg sesuai? dia bagi kat aku 10A
[10:13] <ApOgEE> aku tengok, siap dah kene goreng dah
[10:16] <fairuz> kena tgk current yang lalu tu brapa la
[10:16] <fairuz> 10A ke dia kata?
[10:16] <fairuz> mak aih byk tu
[10:16] <fairuz> mcm bateri kereta plak
[10:17] <ApOgEE> ya, batteri kereta, lori
[10:18] <ApOgEE> dia letak radio
[10:18] <ApOgEE> transmit kuat kot... tu pasal current tinggi
[10:18] <ApOgEE> agaknye la 
[10:18] <fairuz> bateri kereta mmg current tinggi
[10:18] <fairuz> voltage rendah
[10:18] <ApOgEE> ooo
[10:19] <fairuz> 12V je
[10:19] <ApOgEE> current berapa?
[10:19] <ApOgEE> apasal kene pakai 4 bijik diode paralel?
[10:21] <fairuz> eh diode parallel?
[10:22] <fairuz> parallel ke dia buat bentuk diamond tu?
[10:22] <ApOgEE> dia bagi aku drawing camni, tapi 4 bijik, tanpa resistor tu ---> http://www3.telus.net/chemelec/Projects/Diodes-in-Parallel.jpg
[10:23] <ApOgEE> aku kompius gak... nak buat kira2
[10:23] <ApOgEE> sebab ada reverse gak kan?
[10:24] <ApOgEE> pastu kene pakai heatsink lagi... panas nih karen tinggi
[10:24] <ApOgEE> ye dak?
[10:25] <fairuz> kena pakai wayar yang boleh tahan current tinggi
[10:25]  * ApOgEE gaya murid google... main hentam keromok je
[10:25] <ApOgEE> hmm... kalo bikin atas PCB boleh ke?
[10:27] <ApOgEE> ke kene besarkan trace width?
[10:29] <fairuz> uih atas PCB 10A hmmm
[10:30] <ApOgEE> atau tebal copper dia?
[10:30] <fairuz> seingat aku better lebarkan
[10:31] <ApOgEE> yg ada semua dah kene goreng je... ;p belum ada yg tahan... tu yg aku kompius tu
[10:31] <fairuz> dia dah try lebarkan ke
[10:32] <fairuz> 10A byk tu
[10:32] <fairuz> kena kurang resistance internal trace tu
[10:32] <fairuz> so lebarkan la
[10:33] <ApOgEE> hmm... nanti aku eksperimen lagi
[10:34] <ApOgEE> setakat ni, semua fried chicken
[10:34] <ApOgEE> tu yg aku pening tu
[10:35] <ApOgEE> nasib baik jumpa expert elektronik dlm channel ni... ada gak tempat diskusi
[10:35] <ApOgEE> hehehe
[10:37] <fairuz> noob ja, tolong sket2 boleh la
[10:38] <ApOgEE> fairuz: aku kira pakai --> http://circuitcalculator.com/wordpress/2006/01/31/pcb-trace-width-calculator/
[10:38] <ApOgEE> trace tu kene buat lebih kurang 19 mm gak lebarnya
[10:38] <ApOgEE> betul ke aku kira tu.. hehehe
[10:39]  * ApOgEE main belasah je... hahahaa
[10:40] <fairuz> ptt ok je
[10:40] <ApOgEE> hmm... kene bikin balik ... ko ada tempat bikin PCB yg murah?
[10:40] <fairuz> eh
[10:40] <fairuz> 19 mm besar sgt kot
[10:40] <fairuz> dia kata 150 mils camtu
[10:40] <ApOgEE> uik?
[10:41] <sweemeng_> ApOgEE, hackerspacekl
[10:41] <sweemeng_> we make our out pcb
[10:41] <sweemeng_> with printer and acid!!!!!
[10:42] <ApOgEE> sweemeng_: ini projek orang tua2... takmoh main acid
[10:42] <ApOgEE> hehehehee
[10:42] <fairuz> 19 mm == 750 mils
[10:42] <ApOgEE> sweemeng_ kalo jadi, aku nak fabricate menatang ni... ada request tu nanti
[10:43] <ApOgEE> boleh aku sponsor sikit kat ubuntu-my
[10:43] <ApOgEE> hehehehe
[10:44] <sweemeng_> heheheheh
[10:44] <ApOgEE> fairuz: camne ko dapat 150? aku dapat 737
[10:44] <ApOgEE> 737mils = 18.7mm
[10:45] <ApOgEE> fairuz: ke ko usik kat temp tu?
[10:45] <fairuz> ApOgEE: aku letak 10 Amps dalam kotak tu
[10:45] <fairuz> tak
[10:45] <fairuz> http://www.desmith.net/NMdS/Electronics/TraceWidth.html
[10:45] <fairuz> ni pun kasi aku result sama
[10:46] <ApOgEE> aku letak 10 amp, thickness 1 oz
[10:46] <fairuz> oo
[10:46] <fairuz> aku biarkan dia 2
[10:46] <fairuz> ko punya 1 ke
[10:46] <ApOgEE> sbb aku tengok kat sini, dia bikin 1 oz punya PCB --> http://www.custompcb.com/index.htm
[10:47] <ApOgEE> fairuz: aku tak reti kira oz tu pun... hahaha
[10:48] <ApOgEE> maklumlah google punya student
[10:48] <fairuz> hehe kena check tebal dia jugak
[10:48] <fairuz> tu kena check dengan orang yang buat PBC tu la kot, kalau dia fixkan tebal ke, boleh pilih ke
[10:49] <ApOgEE> kalo kat custompcb tu, dia buat 1oz aku tengok
[10:49] <ApOgEE> ko penah buat eagle pakai ubuntu? ko pakai software apa?
[10:50] <fairuz> eagle la
[10:50] <fairuz> tapi windows
[10:50] <ApOgEE> i see... ingatkan seme pakai ubuntu
[10:50] <ApOgEE> hehehe
[10:51]  * ApOgEE brb
[10:53] <SuMarDi> hehe
[11:04]  * ApOgEE poke SuMarDi 
[11:55] <ApOgEE> ls
[11:55]  * ApOgEE balik umah dulu... jumpa lagi 
[13:25] <yuskhanzab> exit
[14:11] <GunBladeIV> sapa ada>
[14:11] <GunBladeIV> ?
[14:11] <GunBladeIV> anyone?
[14:12] <GunBladeIV> ting tong!
[14:12]  * GunBladeIV command not recognized
[14:16] <fairuz> ada
[14:17] <GunBladeIV> hoho
[14:17] <GunBladeIV> fairuz:- apa bikin?
[14:17] <GunBladeIV> fairuz:- tgk the tend ka?
[14:17] <GunBladeIV> ROFL
[14:17] <fairuz> GunBladeIV: Takdak ape
[14:17] <meng> i iz editing Apogee's wiki now
[14:17] <GunBladeIV> mypapit:- w0ot w0ot..apa bikin bos?
[14:18] <GunBladeIV> ang edit apa? kutuk2 ke?
[14:19] <GunBladeIV> kalau bagi testimoni kutuk2 leh? pastu embed gambar sin chan?
[14:19] <GunBladeIV> haha
[14:19] <meng> tak, nak letak gambar 3 buntut bogel ala logo ubuntu
[14:20] <meng> pergi edit sentence structure and grammar sikit
[14:20] <GunBladeIV> ohw.. ko betulkan ayat dlm wiki apogee?
[14:20] <GunBladeIV> nice dude
[14:20] <GunBladeIV> dulu time aku takde sapa power nk betulkan grammar aku.. 
[14:21] <GunBladeIV> pastu siap kene gelak lagi sebab typo error .. 
[14:21] <GunBladeIV> ada plak aku gune ubuntu sejak tahun berapa tah aku silap
[14:21] <GunBladeIV> tak igt
[14:21] <GunBladeIV> tahun aku silap taip tu, ubuntu tak wujud lagi
[14:21] <GunBladeIV> haha
[14:21] <GunBladeIV> abes satu room gelakkan aku
[14:21] <GunBladeIV> tp nasib baik approve
[14:21] <GunBladeIV> keh keh keh
[14:22]  * GunBladeIV w0ot w0ot.. Im not an expired member~! yea..
[14:22]  * GunBladeIV cloaking is back and I am officially Ubuntu Members Once again. kekeke
[14:32] <meng> done
[14:33] <GunBladeIV> hehe
[14:34] <meng> tapi server cam mati mati ikan
[14:36] <meng> apogee kena sort out the version conflicts la
[14:38] <GunBladeIV> eh meng
[14:38] <GunBladeIV> ko piju ke?
[14:38] <meng> tak
[14:38] <GunBladeIV> lol.. 
[14:38] <GunBladeIV> sebab aku tgk last tambah testi is piju
[14:39] <GunBladeIV> so i thought you are piju
[14:39] <meng> editing I lagi ketara dari testimonial
[14:40] <meng> i takde kuasa nak campur tangan dlm ubuntu malaysia pun, mentah I dari Fedora-m
[14:40] <meng> *Fedora-my
[14:42] <GunBladeIV> hehe
[14:42] <GunBladeIV> buleh je..
[14:43] <GunBladeIV> menyamar la jadi mark shuttleworth
[14:43] <GunBladeIV> :D
[14:43] <GunBladeIV> mypapit:- hahahaha.. 
[14:43] <meng> nak yamar jadi Najib lagi best
[14:43] <GunBladeIV> papit.. aku nye membership dh dpt balik
[14:43] <GunBladeIV> haha.. yeehaaa..
[14:43] <GunBladeIV> lol
[14:43] <GunBladeIV> najib bukan IT based
[14:43] <GunBladeIV> so testi tak bernilai
[14:43] <GunBladeIV> keke
[14:49] <meng> GunBladeIV: just remind apogee utk edit off the version conflicts
[14:50] <GunBladeIV> orait
[14:50] <GunBladeIV> i'll remind him later on.
[15:27] <GunBladeIV> hello nbliang 
[15:28] <nbliang> GunBladeIV, hi
[15:28] <GunBladeIV> luckily , i got back my ubuntu cloak
[15:28] <GunBladeIV> haha
[15:28] <GunBladeIV> but still waiting for Ubuntu Member reactivation on launchpad
[15:28] <GunBladeIV> silly me
[15:28] <nbliang> good
[15:28] <nbliang> :)
[15:28] <nbliang> more official members
[15:28] <GunBladeIV>  never login to ubuntu.com email for more than a year
[15:29] <GunBladeIV> then everything you working for gone
[15:29] <GunBladeIV> lol
[15:29] <nbliang> mine will be expires this june
[15:29] <GunBladeIV> i see.
[15:29] <nbliang> how to access the @ubuntu.com mail?
[15:29] <GunBladeIV> have you click on the reactivation ?
[15:29] <GunBladeIV> you have to redirect the email to your current active mail
[15:29] <GunBladeIV> as for me, i am using ubuntu.com.my email to retrieve ubuntu.com
[15:30] <nbliang> yeah, all my @ubuntu.com mail is redirected to my gmail
[15:30] <nbliang> oic
[15:30] <GunBladeIV> lol
[15:30] <GunBladeIV> have you setup ubuntu.com email?
[15:31] <GunBladeIV> but i rarely check my ubuntu mail
[15:31] <GunBladeIV> cuz at one time, i need a personal time
[15:31] <GunBladeIV> :)
[15:31] <GunBladeIV> so thats why im like a ghost for past few years
[15:33] <nbliang> i think I still have the ubuntu.com email
[15:33] <nbliang> :P have to test it out
[15:34] <nbliang> i also have been "ghost" for the past few month/year ;p
[15:35] <nbliang> hopefully can be active back, but familycome first
[15:37] <nbliang> yeah !! my @ubuntu.com mail still working
[15:37] <GunBladeIV> haha
[15:37] <GunBladeIV> surely working nbliang 
[15:38] <GunBladeIV> it will stop working once you become unofficial members
[15:38] <GunBladeIV> and i dont know if mine is working
[15:38] <GunBladeIV> could you send me a test mail to gunbladeiv@ubuntu.com?
[15:38] <nbliang> hehe...
[15:38] <GunBladeIV> thank you
[15:38] <nbliang> k, wait
[15:39] <GunBladeIV> but im sure that @ubuntu.com.my is working
[15:39] <GunBladeIV> lolz
[15:39] <nbliang> GunBladeIV, sent to ur @ubuntu.com
[15:40] <GunBladeIV> orait
[15:40] <GunBladeIV> now i should push F9 to send/recieve
[15:40] <GunBladeIV> haha
[15:41] <GunBladeIV> Yea~! [Gunbladeiv, this is a test mail.
[15:41] <GunBladeIV> ]
[15:41] <GunBladeIV> got your mail
[15:41] <GunBladeIV> so the postman is still working for me
[15:41] <GunBladeIV> haha
[15:42] <nbliang> hehee... yeah
[15:48] <GunBladeIV> nbliang.. who else beside ejat, me, you and piju that official members of ubuntu?
[15:49] <nbliang> i think that's all
[15:49] <nbliang> linuxmalaysia oredi expires, hope other can join in
[15:50] <GunBladeIV> tell linuxmalaysia that he can reactivate the membership loo
[15:50] <GunBladeIV> mine was expired too
[15:50] <GunBladeIV> i just got it back today
[15:50] <GunBladeIV> yesterday, my ip still not cloaked
[15:52] <nbliang> ic ic
[15:52] <nbliang> yeah, that will be good if can re-activate it back
[15:52] <nbliang> btw, u finish ur study?
[15:53] <nbliang> or still in progress?
[15:57] <GunBladeIV> im still trying my best to get my degree
[15:57] <GunBladeIV> but now working with a company
[15:58] <GunBladeIV> been working to upgrade a software 
[15:58] <GunBladeIV> programming stuff
[15:58] <GunBladeIV> but bore
[15:58] <GunBladeIV> hehe
[15:59] <nbliang> oic
[15:59] <GunBladeIV> how about you?
[16:00] <GunBladeIV> still on open sos business ?
[16:00] <GunBladeIV> unfortunately my work need me to use windows
[16:00] <GunBladeIV> so i vm it
[16:00] <GunBladeIV> haha
[16:02] <nbliang> well, i am now a software tester
[16:02] <nbliang> and also need to use windows
[16:03] <nbliang> only at home when not touching any of my work, i will use linux
[16:03] <fairuz> hello2
[16:08] <GunBladeIV> hello hello hello hello
[16:09] <GunBladeIV> haha
[16:09] <GunBladeIV> same la
[16:09] <GunBladeIV> i dont think in malaysia you could easily escape from windows environment
[16:09] <GunBladeIV> especially when working
[16:13] <nbliang> GunBladeIV, agree
[16:13] <nbliang> not at this time, maybe in the next few years then we can start to see company fully using linux / bsd
[16:13]  * fairuz agrees too
[16:14] <GunBladeIV> yup.. but need to persuade govt sector 
[16:15] <GunBladeIV> once government are keen in using open sos.. then private sector will slowly migrate
[16:21] <meng> open sos chili?
[16:22] <nbliang> sorry guys, need to offline, see u again
[16:27] <GunBladeIV> open la meng sorang2
[16:27] <GunBladeIV> haha