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Cheri703we're an exciting lot, eh?00:24
canthus13YAY!!!00:29
* canthus13 whistles.00:29
* canthus13 goes back to sleep.00:29
Unit193There was a storm...00:34
Cheri703yep00:35
Cheri703more coming Unit19300:35
Cheri703www.fullscreenweather.com00:35
Unit193Isn't it fun? You can blame canthus13 if you want...00:36
Unit193(Can't view sites on this slow connection00:36
Cheri703ah00:36
Unit193Talk about a storm... Cheri703 Did you hear that last one??01:19
TheErkI am the storm!01:20
Cheri703yeah, it's working its way through01:20
Cheri703o/ TheErk01:20
TheErkDear Satan I am glad to be hme.01:20
Unit193...01:21
* Cheri703 is playing with Calibre and getting stuff converted to epub in anticipation of getting the nook...2.5 weeks til it's available though :/01:21
TheErkToday hela sucked01:21
TheErkHow were your days?01:29
Cheri703same ol' same ol'01:31
canthus13Uh. Wow.  http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110525/ap_on_re_as/as_new_zealand_human_balloon01:35
dmcglone1Anyone watching Idol?01:35
canthus13dmcglone1: No. I'm quite sane, thank you.01:35
dmcglone1canthus13: you believe that crap?01:36
dmcglone1lol01:36
dmcglone1YooHoo let me let you in on a secret.....Yahaoo is full of shit!01:37
canthus13dmcglone1: Meh.01:37
Cheri703it's been in a lot of places today01:37
Cheri703it's a real news story01:37
canthus13It's AP story...01:37
dmcglone1Unbelieabable01:38
dmcglone1oops01:38
dmcglone1unbelieveable01:38
dmcglone1Steven Tylor cracks me up!01:41
cheri703-mobilePower went out...02:28
canthus13cheri703-mobile: Ew.02:28
canthus13cheri703-mobile: Addict.02:29
AndChat|Eh, It's ok. Was in the middle of a movie, but no biggie. We have candles and such02:30
canthus13AndChat|: Nice nick.02:31
AndChat|Bah, one sec02:31
=== AndChat| is now known as cheri703_mobile
cheri703_mobileOk02:33
cheri703-mobileSkrappJaw: power go out?02:37
SkrappJawno.02:38
SkrappJawnot yet02:38
SkrappJawdid yours?02:38
SkrappJawcheri703-mobile: We're all good in Madison02:39
cheri703-mobileOurs went out a while ago02:39
cheri703-mobileLots of sirens02:40
Unit193cheri703-mobile: We still have it...02:43
SkrappJawdang02:43
cheri703-mobileJust came back on :-)02:43
SkrappJawYa. Katie is out also. she's on S.main02:44
SkrappJawCool.02:44
Cheri703power is back :)02:48
SkrappJawGood good!02:49
Cheri703anything exciting going on tonight?02:59
TheErkThis is about it03:02
TheErkAnd now.. bedtime.. Night folks03:03
canthus13Cheri703: Storms.03:04
Cheri703eh03:05
Cheri703not THAT exciting03:05
canthus13Heh.03:05
canthus13Watch the weather channel.. it's pretty exciting.03:05
canthus13this entire system is freaking insane.03:05
Cheri703no cable03:06
Cheri703watching "unknown"03:09
Cheri703I was most of the way through it when the power went out03:09
Cheri703\o/ liam neeson in "OMG I will kick your butt! and then kill you!" mode :)03:26
Cheri703scooter2: one awesome thing I forgot to mention about andchat03:26
Cheri703if you start typing a nick and then press and hold on the text field, you can choose "complete nick" which is a MAJOR lacking feature from others03:26
scooter2Cheri703: it works! Awesome!03:27
Cheri703yeah, it's super handy :)03:27
scooter2Yeah, thanks! I'm still getting used to having a phone that does things. It used to be only calls and an alarm clock...03:28
Cheri703heh03:29
Cheri703if you need android pointers or app recommendations, let me know :)03:29
Cheri703ooo, and for alarm clock, I use "alarmed"03:29
Cheri703it lets you have the volume increase slowly, also lets you set math or anagram questions that have to be answered before it gets shut off :)03:29
dmcglone1lord I am so thankful American Idol is over!03:29
scooter2Sure! I'll check that out. although I'm terrible at anagrams. Glad I don't have a roommate anymore.03:30
Cheri703you can turn them off, choose either/or, both, or none03:31
scooter2dmcglone1: American Idol is gone for good?03:32
dmcglone1No scooter, season is over :-) yippie yay, I hate that show, but everyone here watches it03:35
dmcglone1jgould: you here?03:35
dmcglone1Every time I hear an artist who made it big from Idol, I just can't bring myself to respect them as much as an artist that had to go through blood sweat and tears to make it big03:37
Cheri703storm is picking up again03:40
scooter2Oh no! How was is for you this evening?03:42
dmcglone1hasn't been bad at all here in south columbus03:42
Cheri703scooter2: we lost power for a while03:44
Cheri703about an hour or so03:44
Cheri703not terrible03:44
scooter2Cheri703: my alert light went blue! I didn't know it had any other color than green!03:45
Cheri703heh, nice!03:46
Cheri703what phone?03:46
scooter2Motorola Droid 2 (r2d2).  Apparently blue is the color for incoming calls. What android device do you use?03:48
Cheri703ah, I have a sprint hero03:52
Cheri703it's old, but I like it :)03:52
scooter2We just switched from sprint to verizon. The phone I had with sprint was amazingly indestructable. A lot of respect for LG products.04:02
scooter2Well, got to go. Hope the storm passes over you!04:03
Cheri703OMG I AM SO BORED04:03
Cheri703nothing to watch, and nothing I am in the mood to work on from my to do list04:03
Unit193Run out in the rain~04:03
Cheri703no04:04
Unit193It was an idea...04:04
Cheri703>.>04:04
Cheri703<,<04:04
Cheri703no04:04
Cheri703:)04:04
Cheri703seriously I'm antsy and I have acid reflux and I want to DO something but there is nothing to do04:05
Cheri703power flicked off again04:14
Unit193We have had a little power changes, but nothing that turns it off04:16
Unit193Cheri703: Did you look outside?? It's CRAZY with lightning!!04:24
Cheri703it is actually calmer here at the moment, but it's going over you first04:24
Unit193It's calm here too, just TONS of lightning!04:28
Cheri703ah, gotcha04:32
Cheri703o.O Unit193: go to www.fullscreenweather.com  there is still a LOT coming04:46
Cheri703canthus13: you've been quiet today04:50
Unit193Note to self: Bad time to take a walk....04:52
Cheri703If the power goes out again, I'm just going to go to bed04:57
Unit193locobot_1 got the cut!05:18
popmanhey05:18
Unit193Howdy popman05:23
popmanhey what's up?05:23
Unit193Big storm!05:23
popmanyeah I know05:23
popmanlol05:23
popmanmore to come apprently05:23
Unit193How about you? Haven't "seen" you in a while05:24
popmanI'm good05:24
popmanjust been busy05:24
popman=P05:24
Unit193Nice to have you back!05:27
popmanhaha05:29
popmanI've been idling in the darkness :D05:29
Unit193I've noticed. we're in 4 of the same channels :D05:32
Unit193Now we have _bbb and _bbb_05:43
popman:D06:18
Derath-SrvrHi all14:29
Derath-SrvrMan, last night was wild...15:00
Derath-Srvrsome of the cities near me got pelted with golf-ball to baseball sized hail15:01
Derath-SrvrHi Scooter15:03
* jgould blinks, and now has to craft a response to Jon Buckley's Email...15:37
scooter2Hi Derath-Srvr! Sorry for the slow response. How are you?15:54
Derath-SrvrAlive and no damage from last night :) so at least that much is going for me :)15:54
scooter2Always a plus! Really nice outside now, strangely enough.15:57
Derath-SrvrWill change again later today...15:58
Derath-Srvrshouldn't be as bas as last night thought15:58
Derath-Srvrerr though15:58
Derath-Srvrwas insane near me...15:58
scooter2Are you south of Cleveland? It was really bad there.15:59
Derath-SrvrDayton15:59
deejoetornados?15:59
Derath-SrvrI think a few F0-F1s...15:59
deejoeI was a kid when the huge one came through Xenia15:59
Derath-SrvrMostly hail damage though15:59
Derath-SrvrBetween the hail and 90+ mph winds...16:00
scooter2Yeah, the weather map had a huge multicolor blob over you all evening...16:01
Derath-Srvrlol Yeah16:01
Derath-SrvrReports of golf-ball to baseball+ sized hail...16:01
Derath-SrvrI think there were quite a few rotation clouds, but I don't think many formed...16:02
Derath-SrvrAnd the news reporters were on from 6:30 to well after midnight... lol long day for them16:04
Derath-SrvrNeed to check the house tonight for damage16:04
scooter2Aren't we supposed to have a cold front coming in soon?16:04
Derath-Srvrsomething...16:08
Derath-Srvrwe have another system coming in soon/now...16:08
Derath-Srvrbrb16:08
Derath-Srvrback16:14
scooter2Need to eat. See you!17:01
Cheri703I'm always amazed at the difficulty people have with the difference between "petal" "pedal" and "peddle" even amongst bike "professionals"17:15
Cheri703I see petaling and peddling more often than pedaling >.<17:16
deejoesuch is life in a post-literate society17:34
Cheri703true17:54
_bbbi saw someone write "torchered" yesterday17:55
Cheri703>.<17:55
_bbbthe worse part it was my religion zealot aunt posting on Jesus's facebook page17:56
_bbbso many facepalms so little time17:56
_bbbi wanted to tell her that wasnt really Jesus17:58
_bbbhe's still on myspace17:58
Derath-Srvrlol17:59
Derath-Srvrlol18:25
Derath-SrvrSo which email was it you needed to reply to?18:26
* Cheri703 is poking her nose into the NEO thing :)18:26
jgouldI saw that Cheri70318:26
jgouldI need to respoond to the one from Jon Buckley RE: Columbus UH18:26
Cheri703jgould: at least there's a response!18:28
Cheri703also for reference, jon buckley is itsafork18:28
Unit19320 emails this morning...18:28
Derath-Srvrlol18:29
jgouldI noticed XD18:29
Derath-SrvrAnd too much going on... Cols UH wants moved, NEO UH wants to be moved and needs new leadership lol18:30
Cheri703and the election!18:30
jgouldI think that we are a robust group that can sort all three of these issues out and grow stronger all at the same time.18:33
jgouldUnit193: 20 Emails from the list?18:33
Unit193jgould: Total this morning (after I went to sleep)18:34
Unit193Just got another (12 or 13 from list)18:34
jgouldHeh18:34
Cheri703jgould: +118:35
jgouldI have already gotten around 60 emails since about 6am...18:35
Cheri703the group as a whole has been really stagnant for a while18:35
Cheri703so (IMO) some changes need to happen in order to bring in new people.18:35
Cheri703New people join the LP group, but they don't often show up to things, or make it to the IRC room, and the forum is pretty dead as well18:36
Cheri703so...I think we need to put more effort into the IN PERSON meetings18:36
jgouldCheri, your statemnet about multiple UH's in a city may be the answer to the issues plauging the Cols. UH.  Have a second one on a diferent night at a slightly diffrent time...18:36
jgouldGet them to the in person events and then bring them into every thing else from there?18:36
Cheri703yeah jgould18:36
Cheri703a LOT of people would be MUCH more comfortable sitting next to someone having ubuntu explained or problems fixed vs navigating IRC and such18:37
Cheri703and those are some of the people that we WANT to encourage18:37
jgouldYep.18:37
Cheri703the people who are only using windows because that's what came on their computer and don't know there's something better18:37
Cheri703the ones who get scared into buying a new computer that will barely run win7 because xp is losing support, etc18:37
Cheri703and those people are NOT going to be finding an irc room or forum or whatever, but if they have the opportunity to go and sit in person with others and find out, they'd probably do so18:38
jgouldYou guys have seen my struggles via IRC but what I've mentioned is not really much compared to what I've had to deal with to get this laptop wroking18:38
Cheri703yeah18:38
jgould(although I am in the Mac OS at the moment.  With the storms last night I would have had to tether my phone if I needed to roll, and I can't do that in Ubuntu at the momemnt.18:39
Cheri703do you use usb tether or wireless?18:39
jgouldBluetooth, but I haven't had time to try to find any scripts for the modem in the phone (A RIM BlackBerry 9700 that does not act as a hotspot.) I haven't tried a USB tether...18:41
jgouldI may have to do that when I finish my email..18:41
Cheri703ah, ok18:43
Cheri703I use wireless tether for root users on android18:43
Cheri703SUPER EASY18:43
jgouldAnd Cheri, I think that Mansfield is close enough to NEO that you do have some possible insight into what they are trying to do...18:45
jgouldBRB,  Rebooting18:45
Unit193I was on IRC for the longest time before getting LP (That was more because paultag was on my back)18:47
Unit193Howdy SMK / skellat18:47
Cheri703o/ skellat18:47
skellatAnd the map for pinning where you are in Northeast Ohio can be found at: http://ur1.ca/4a7wb18:47
skellatHello Cheri703 and Unit19318:47
paultagUnit193: :)18:47
paultaghey skellat :)18:48
skellatpaultag: How is the weather in Boston?18:48
paultagskellat: hot as it's ever been :)18:48
paultagit's nice18:48
paultagskellat: how's things up your wasy?18:48
skellatExcellent18:48
paultagErie's treating you well, I hope :)18:49
skellatpaultag: Last night had some scary moments for storm cells.18:49
Cheri703skellat: If I refer to you in an email, how do you prefer?18:49
jgouldWe had some pretty bad ones down here in Columbus too...18:49
skellatCheri703: Yikes, I'm known in so many ways.  SMK works, Stephen works...I dunno.  I haven't been styled as Professor Kellat for a while as I've lack faculty status for a few years, alas...18:50
Cheri703heh, ok18:50
skellatCheri703: Your interjection in the thread is mightily appreciated, too.  This is probably the most active the mailing list has been in a while.18:51
paultag+118:51
Cheri703:) good, glad it's helpful18:51
jgouldI agree, skellat18:51
Derath-SrvrWow, lots of chat...18:52
Derath-Srvrtoo bad there's no "Summarize the window for me" button lol18:52
* Unit193 still is scared of the ML18:52
paultagDerath-Srvr: ha!18:52
Unit193Derath-Srvr: +100018:52
paultagUnit193: nah!18:52
paultagit's just email18:52
jgouldThe ML?18:52
jgouldNever mind18:52
paultagmailing list18:52
paultag:)18:52
jgouldTaht dawned on me after I hit enter18:53
paultag:)18:53
Derath-Srvrlol18:53
Derath-SrvrDon't you hate it when that happens lol18:53
skellatUnit193: My big worry in the referenced thread is what on earth the bounds of the NEO ReLoCo are.  Finding an appropriate scale for organizing communities is the big debate.  Right now we're pinning a Google Map to look for clumping in the distribution of participants.18:53
Cheri703posted to the list, but I want one of these on our site: http://ubuntu-uk.org/where-are-we/18:53
Cheri703that'd be awesome for a. creating new relocos/ubuntu hours, and b. for new people to see that there are others near them18:54
Derath-SrvrQuestion, do I put in two pins? lol One for Dayton and one for Cols? lol18:54
Cheri703Derath-Srvr: IMO, put one anywhere you are likely to participate regularly18:55
Derath-Srvrlol18:55
jgouldBRB18:55
Cheri703so if someone from dayton says "hmm...anyone near me?" they see that there is, if someone from columbus says "how many potential U-H attendees?" they can count you18:56
skellatDerath-Srvr: At this point, mainly just looking for clumping of participants.  We gotta get a grip on how far apart NEO folks are distance-wise.18:56
jgouldSweet!  I'm tethered18:56
Derath-Srvrcongrats18:56
jgouldOk, Back to wifi!18:56
Cheri703I'm watching some HORRIBLE low budget movie...it's really dumb18:57
Derath-Srvrcrank2?18:57
skellatCheri703: It looks like Alan's using the same stuff as I am EXCEPT that he's doing some API stuff to place things on the map.18:57
skellatDerath-Srvr: I liked that movie.18:57
Cheri703ok, I think it'd be awesome to have it on the site18:57
jgouldThat was easier to set up in Ubuntu than it was in the MacOS...  I had to install RIM's software to make it work...18:58
Cheri703could be as general as neighborhood or something, but...yeah18:58
Derath-Srvrlol it was a train wreck... horrible, but you just can't look away18:58
Cheri703"Cross" it's dumb18:58
* Cheri703 HEARTS jason statham18:58
* Cheri703 could look at him alllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll day18:58
Unit193The next Ubuntu Ohio meeting is NOW ;)18:58
Cheri703heh Unit19318:59
Cheri703new topic: Jason Statham18:59
Cheri703;D18:59
Derath-Srvrright when i have a work mtg too... sigh18:59
Cheri703my favorite fight scene in ANY movie: the bus garage scene in The Transporter18:59
Cheri703with the oil and the bicycle pedals :D19:00
Derath-Srvrbbiab19:00
skellatI gotta duck out to deal with stuff in the non-Ubuntu world.  Happy map pinning and please play it up on Twitter and Identica.19:00
* Unit193 doesn't know who Jason Statham is19:01
Cheri703http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005458/19:02
Cheri703also: http://www.moviewatchlist.com/cast_gallery/images/Jason%20Statham%20%288%29.jpg :D19:03
Cheri703wow this movie is dumb19:03
Unit193I may have seen The Transporter and I have seen The Pink Panther19:04
Cheri703the transporter is teh awesome19:05
jgouldSunbury is about to get pounded...19:06
* Cheri703 finds it amusing that the majority of people who have pinned the map are J names19:09
jgouldHeh19:09
jgouldthat's cause us J names are on the ball...19:10
jgouldThere is a google list for the Columbus ReLoCo?19:12
Cheri703I am sorely tempted to respond "set up a filter and / or just ignore"19:13
Cheri703I was unaware of a google group19:13
Cheri703yet another "closing things off from new folks who have no idea things exist" in my opinion :/19:13
jgouldThis is the pooint of a mailing list...19:14
* jgould blinks... There is very little info on this google group that we didn't know existed...19:18
* Cheri703 didn't bother joining it19:19
Cheri703filters filters filters people19:20
jgouldYou go, Cheri!19:21
Cheri703?19:22
jgouldYour email19:22
Cheri703oh19:22
jgouldthe owner of the google group for the Columbus ReLoCo is Brian19:22
Cheri703:)19:22
Unit193Stop with the email! Too much! ;)19:23
Cheri703filters19:24
jgouldi get on average, 300 Emails a day.  do i read them all, no. do I have filters set up, yes. Do they all still go into my inbox, yes.  they go into a unified inbox on my phone too... I see every message...19:25
Cheri703my ohio ones are labeled and stay in inbox, but other lists get archived and labeled19:26
Cheri703woo gmail19:26
Cheri703and the new labs feature for nested labels19:26
Cheri703I have "ubuntu lists" and then sub labels19:26
jgouldoh, the 'many members' he speaks of number at 23 Heh19:27
Cheri703and how many of those participate regularly?19:27
Cheri703I just think we need to revitalize things19:27
Cheri703as I said, very stagnant19:27
Cheri703According to Launchpad, we have "386 active members"19:28
Cheri703HA19:28
Cheri703not even close19:28
Cheri703as far as actually active19:29
Cheri703and participating/contributing/interacting with other users19:29
jgouldI have to go back to the beginning of 2010 to find activity that is not Gilbert on the ReLoCo page for Columbus19:29
Cheri703and granted, a large portion are "read" users vs "write" users (not going to necessarily contribute back in), but they all put forth at least enough effort to find the loco group, so they're more than just "omg someone put this on my computer!" users19:30
Cheri703:/19:30
jgouldAren't  you guys supposed to be campaiging or something for the council?19:30
Cheri703yeah, a bit19:31
Cheri703should I take the stuff I've said in here and make an email? :)19:31
Cheri703I note that in brian's response he doesn't address the "gee, I *could* set up a filter" concept :/19:32
jgouldSo far there have been 7 emails on this reloco list this year, that are all Gilbert restating that there is a UH...19:32
Cheri703yeah :/19:35
jgouldI think you should... This is how we are going to become active again....19:35
Cheri703I will work on putting some thoughts together19:35
jgouldWe also determined it a great19:36
jgouldplace because, though--yes-- you have to pay..19:36
jgouldthat to me is a down side... period19:36
Cheri703yeah agreed (though I don't drive ;) )19:36
Cheri703and besides, some people don't like parking in garages, want to see their car19:36
jgouldI don't care for garages, and plus I have some equipment mounted in my car that I would like to keep for me, not let someone else have...19:38
jgouldIsn't itsafork the head of the Ohio LoCo?19:38
Unit193One of them19:39
Cheri703yeah, itsafork and gilbert19:41
Unit193+ Cheri703 or SMK19:42
Cheri703did my last message come across as facetious?19:43
jgouldNo19:45
Cheri703k19:45
jgouldyou are stating a valid point.  Most of the email I get I don't care about...19:45
jgouldAnd the columbus UH discussions are for the list as a whole.  300+ members versus the 23 that are on the Google Group?  Hmm...  Which one has the higher precentage of people that live in Cols...19:46
Cheri703I feel like I need to check with people, I know how I mean things, but I don't know how they're taken by others19:47
jgouldI feel the same way you do19:47
jgouldI'm on a nationwide list for a progam that lets you see track occupancy for freight trains.  Most of the email on there I could care less about, sometimes things pique my intrest so I read them and end up learning something...19:48
Cheri703any list that is "globally relative [sic] to every member" is USELESS19:49
Cheri703on most of my lists, about 10-20% applies directly to me, that's just how it works19:50
Cheri703the whole point is to reach those new people who may have joined and not located the specialized groups, etc19:50
Cheri703line from this horrible movie (by gary busey's son, which tells you something right there) "duude, you're a BIG bad guy"19:51
Cheri703-_-19:51
jgouldMaybe we need a new ReLoCo for Columbus...  I don't know.  The location works if you live on campus.  I'm not shelling out $40 (last I heard) for parking passes from T&P so I can attend UH19:53
jgouldI'll BRB19:53
Cheri703kk19:53
Cheri703you know...one good thing about me being on the council (if elected) I am actually in the irc room regularly, and easy to reach as needed19:55
Cheri703:)19:56
Unit193+1!19:56
jgould+119:56
Unit193I also have your gmail and and google talk19:57
Cheri703heh19:58
* jgould blinks at the most recent email from Brian...19:58
Cheri703yeeeah19:58
Cheri703we DO have a forum, but again, a LOT of people don't go look at it19:58
Cheri703and new people are MUCH more able to handle a mailing list than a forum19:58
jgouldI don't like fourms19:58
jgouldIt's harder to respond while moble (well figurtivly,  I can tether my phone now XD)19:59
Unit193I don't go to the LoCo one...19:59
Unit193I'm a ML reader and IRC person only it seems19:59
Cheri703he is the embodiment of the mentality I was talking about earlier: It should be this way because I want it this way, and OBVIOUSLY it shouldn't be what it has blatantly evolved into because *I* think it shouldn't :/ at least that's the vibe I'm getting from him19:59
Cheri703I go to forums, but 90% dead ones I don't check very often at all19:59
Cheri703don't need to, since no one ever posts there20:00
Unit193(For the record. There are only 183 on the ML)20:00
Cheri703yeah, no idea where the other 100+ are...20:00
Cheri703:)20:00
Cheri703might see if there's a way to send messages to people who aren't actually on the list20:00
jgouldI'm with you, Unit193.  I prefer Email20:02
jgould(and IRC)20:02
Unit193I don't email the list (I'll just ask Cheri703 to do it ;D )20:02
Cheri703mmmmhm20:03
jgouldDoes anyone else see discussions appearing on their other mailing lists?20:04
Unit193[163 messages expunged from folder "INBOX"] <--- Had to change my filters because of you ;)20:05
Cheri703mmhm20:05
jgouldXD20:06
Cheri703yeah jgould, if it turns into an exchange between two people, then it goes off the list, but if multiple people are giving input, then it is big20:06
Derath-Srvrlol20:17
Derath-SrvrSup Masked20:19
canthus13...wow. Someone needs to pull the cactus out of their butt.20:20
canthus13the discussion on the ML is neatly threaded by google, and was easy enough to filter into one folder. :/20:21
Derath-Srvr?20:21
Derath-SrvrOkay, you have to give me a min to catch up... my phone can only show so much at a time lol20:22
MaskedDrivera cactus canthus13?20:55
MaskedDriver113 messages in May20:55
MaskedDriverI don't care if they're nicely threaded... That's excessive20:55
canthus13Then quit the list.20:56
MaskedDriver15 in April20:56
MaskedDriverno.. because I like to know what's happening in the LoCo20:56
MaskedDrivernot what every ReLoCo is doing day-to-day20:57
MaskedDriverWe have forums that that kind of stuff can be used for as wel20:57
MaskedDriverI wonder how many people HAVE quit from the spam at this point20:58
Cheri703messages discussing topics that can be relevant (even generally) to other groups (most of the stuff lately hasn't been SUPER specific to one group) isn't really spam...20:59
jgouldMaskedDriver: None20:59
Derath-SrvrHow about how many have quit because of the lack of traffic?20:59
jgouldNow that one, I can't answer20:59
Cheri703the group has been 90% dead for a long time20:59
Derath-SrvrPretty much..21:00
Cheri703sure ubuntu-hours have been happening, but no new people have really been showing up21:00
Cheri703new people show up on lp, but then nothing happens, so they leave21:00
canthus13Then set up filters, use a threading client. Mailing lists work quite well as forums for people who don't know about the forum, would rather not have to go to a separate site to keep up, etc.  You're only the second person I've seen in 3 years to complain about ML volume.21:00
MaskedDriveronly publicly21:00
Cheri703people were pissy about the "other" columbus group, the WHOLE reason they were started was because of the LoCo being so stagnant21:00
jgouldI'm on several mailing lists that generate 100+ emails a day.  all of them make my phone vibrate.  I don't do much more than shake all day.  I find email easier to use than a fourm21:01
Cheri703I have mailing lists that generate upwards of 30 CONVERSATIONS in gmail per day, can be a few hundred individual messages depending on how chatty they are21:02
MaskedDriverthat's excessive21:02
Cheri703it is21:02
Cheri703but I filter them and read at my leisure21:02
Cheri703so it is completely unobtrusive21:02
Cheri703and sometimes I just delete without reading, as it's mostly a chatty list vs an action list21:02
Cheri703ok bye21:03
jgouldplus you don't have to read every email that shows up.  I know I don't.21:03
jgouldRagequit?21:03
Cheri703*shrug* dunno21:03
Cheri703he did pop out and back earlier21:03
Cheri703anyway. I see nothing wrong with actually utilizing the list21:04
jgouldI don't either.21:04
canthus13prolly.21:04
Cheri703and as stated: I am more than happy to help people set up their email filters :)21:04
jgould:)21:04
Cheri703brian reminds me of my husband: defensive over EVERYTHING21:05
Cheri703at least that's how he's coming across21:05
Derath-SrvrAlso note: the irc is logged and is available on the net :)21:05
* jgould shrugs21:06
Cheri703ooo, it was a ragequit21:07
Cheri703he left21:07
Cheri703he deactivated himself from the team21:07
Derath-Srvroh well21:07
Derath-Srvrhis loss21:07
jgouldYep21:08
jgouldI understand the ReLoCo's having indivual lists, but for some matters, the statewide list is better....21:09
canthus13Reloco lists just further complicate things for people who barely have a handle on one list.21:09
jgouldOr have no clue that the reloco list exists in the first place21:10
Derath-Srvras he generates one more email to the list (the deactivate email)21:10
canthus13Nice to see someone followign my suggestions...21:11
* canthus13 wonders if hell unfriend him in facebook.21:11
canthus13he'll.21:11
canthus13(Not that I even noticed the deactivate mail... I have those filtered. :)21:12
Cheri703heh21:12
Derath-Srvrlol21:12
jgouldHeh21:12
jgouldAlso, as Natty was Just released a month ago, does it not make sense that there would be more traffic following a release?21:14
Derath-Srvr:X21:14
Derath-SrvrAfternoon Eric21:14
jgouldI loved how it got slient in here when he came in21:15
EricR2427Hello21:16
Derath-Srvrlol21:16
Derath-SrvrIt's always that way, unless gilbert, paultag, or jacob come in lol21:16
canthus13Derath-Srvr: Nah. you're just not around late in the evenings when me, Cheri703, Unit193, and jgould get going.21:17
jgouldHeh21:17
jgouldwe're the overnight shift...21:17
canthus13:D21:18
Derath-SrvrWell, since I took a first shift job, I can't be up all night anymore21:18
Cheri703well gosh Derath-Srvr, you should QUIT so you can be on IRC all night! I mean, come on, where are your priorities?!21:18
canthus13Heh.21:18
jgouldHe even left the reloco google group21:19
jgouldI was excpecting to find my self a short lived member...21:20
canthus13Wow. brian was a rather long-term member...21:20
jgouldAll over a few emails...21:21
Cheri703canthus13: when I went to the columbus ubuntu-hour the one time, he REALLY didn't seem to want new people there. he mostly ignored me and only talked to gilbert and the one guy whose name I forget now21:22
Cheri703I really got the impression that he's TOTALLY content to have the group be tiny and not grow at all21:22
jgouldI'm going to take a nap.  Be back in a few hours21:22
Cheri703which is completely inconsistent with what the goals should be (at least in my opinion)21:22
canthus13Yup.21:22
Cheri703*shrug*21:24
Derath-SrvrCheri: have to afford the inet connection lol21:24
Cheri703I need to write up my "campaign platform"21:24
Cheri703what do you mean Derath-Srvr?21:24
Derath-SrvrPriorities lol21:25
Cheri703ah, gotcha21:25
Cheri703true21:25
Derath-SrvrNeed to be able to afford connecting, so I have to have a job lol21:25
Cheri703psh, you could get a part time job for that, internet isn't thaaat expensive21:25
Derath-SrvrAnd it's better to be at the UH while there are actually people there, I went and no one was there21:25
Cheri703though if husband gets a job, I'm really tempted to try for a faster connection21:25
canthus13Cheri703: ...I don't think you'll be getting brian's vote. :)21:25
Derath-Srvrlol21:26
Derath-SrvrWould he be an absentee ballot now?21:26
canthus13Derath-Srvr: ...not unless he left the launchpad group.21:26
Cheri703yeah..I don't think so21:26
Derath-SrvrWow... lost power here in dublin...21:29
Derath-Srvrbriefly21:30
Cheri703he deactivated himself on lp21:30
Derath-SrvrLMAO!21:30
Cheri703he's under "former members"21:30
canthus13Wow.21:31
Derath-SrvrThink he'll go to the "meet-up" group? lol21:31
Cheri703hehe, dunno21:31
Cheri703someone named "funkyhut" is also a deactivated member :D21:32
canthus13...I know a funkyhat...21:46
canthus13He's in England...21:46
Cheri703hehe21:48
Cheri703http://failbook.failblog.org/2011/05/26/funny-facebook-fails-pedophile-busted-using-facebook-in-apple-store22:21
Cheri703more storm coming22:26
Unit193I kinda noticed the rain, Cheri70322:26
Cheri703it's not raining here yet22:26
Cheri703now it is22:29
Unit193It had been raining for a little22:30
Cheri703not here22:30
* canthus13 wonders what tomorrows convective outlook is like...22:32
dmcglone1Hello22:33
Unit193dmcglone1: You missed all the fun!22:33
dmcglone1back pain is getting better by the day :-)22:33
canthus13Ooo... nice. nothing at all over ohio tomorrow.22:33
dmcglone1I did Unit19322:34
dmcglone1what did I miss22:34
canthus13a hissy fit over mailing list traffic. :/22:34
Cheri703ragequit22:34
dmcglone1Huh?22:34
Unit193Where is the "people that have quit" part? I never found it...22:34
dmcglone1was it a discussion in IRC?22:35
Cheri703lp page, all members, scroll toward bottom (or ctrl-f mask) :)22:35
Cheri703part of it was on the list, part in here22:35
dmcglone1I see. what in the world was it over?22:35
canthus13dmcglone1: people actually used the mailing list.22:36
Cheri703people actually using the list to discuss things22:36
dmcglone1Oh wow, I opened my mail and got 24 emails from the list alone. seems to be a record... LOL22:36
Unit193I only see Active and Pending...22:37
dmcglone1Active and Pending what Unit193?22:38
Unit193LP > All Members and Active or Pending only22:39
dmcglone1Oh Ok22:39
dmcglone1How do I add a pin to my location on the google map?22:41
Cheri703edit22:41
Cheri703fire truck just drove by22:48
* canthus13 used to live a block from a fire station...22:48
dmcglone1I have no idea how to add a pin and my name to my location22:50
dmcglone1I clicked edit and it's like a maze22:50
* canthus13 has no idea how to find the map.22:50
Cheri703dmcglone1: on the left, just above the name of the map, there should be an edit button, NOT the one above the map itself (sorry, wasn't clear)22:50
dmcglone1canthus13:  http://ur1.ca/4a7wb22:50
Cheri703dmcglone1: just go back to the main link22:50
Cheri703ok, that button isn't showing up now -_-22:51
dmcglone1I clicked the "edit" at the top of the page, but it's not letting me add a pin to my location for some reason22:51
Cheri703ok, I see it22:52
Cheri703the one in the left panel or the one in the map panel?22:52
canthus13Hmm.. can't find an edit button.22:54
canthus13(Other than the one at the top...)22:54
Cheri703try loading it again22:54
Cheri703the first time I clicked, it didn't show up, then I clicked it again and it did22:55
dmcglone1Ok I wasn't signed in to google :-/22:55
* Cheri703 thinks directions should have been included with the map22:55
dmcglone1I think we should have been able to just type our address in and then add a pin to it22:56
canthus13There. Fixed.22:58
canthus13refresh did it.22:58
Cheri703kk23:04
dmcglone1Heh, read the e-mails. makes me disgusted!23:06
Unit193dmcglone1: You should have seen when he joined IRC :D23:07
dmcglone1isn't discussing things related to Ubuntu on the list the purpose of it????23:07
dmcglone1I guess were are supposed to google our brains out till we find the info, if ever.23:08
Unit193Just join #ubuntu ;)23:09
dmcglone1I think the list should be used for any and all communications among every Ubuntu Member23:09
* Unit193 hasn't once sent an email to the list (Don't plan too)23:10
Cheri703dmcglone1: and know about obscure google groups -_-23:11
dmcglone1Not that I would change the way we are doing things, but there is a website for advertising and scheduling meets, it can be found at http://www.meetup.com I use it exclusively for my PHP meetups23:13
Cheri703that's what the other ubuntu group uses :)23:14
Cheri703there was some reason I didn't like meetup...I forget why23:14
Cheri703I thought you had to pay to create a group? or something?23:14
dmcglone1well I can safely say, if this type of behaviour he deems as the holy grail is forced on us I'll most certainly walk away23:16
Cheri703I completely disagree with everything (as far as I remember, didn't look back at it) that he said, so...23:19
Cheri703if I make it to the council (hint hint nudge nudge) then don't expect those sorts of attitudes :)23:19
dmcglone1Heh, if he thinks I'm joining that google group he's out of his mind. I don't patronise with dictators :-/23:19
dmcglone1It was his overall tone  that got me23:21
dmcglone1I commend jgould for keeping his cool :-)23:22
dmcglone1and you too Cheri70323:23
Cheri703thanks23:24
dmcglone1I should have said that earlier, but it's usually the guy that wants to beat the crap out of people like that23:25
dmcglone1well now what? are we going to continue to keep things how they are or do we have to learn a whole new set of rules?23:28
Cheri703now what what?23:28
Cheri703what do you mean?23:28
Cheri703nothing really changed as a result of today23:28
dmcglone1are we not allowed to post anything to the mailing list?23:28
Cheri703no one agreed with him23:28
Cheri703just carry on as before23:29
dmcglone1good23:29
dmcglone1I ask myself: how would paultag handle this one? LOL23:30
Cheri703hehe23:31
Cheri703wwptd23:31
Cheri703what would paul tag do23:31
dmcglone1LOL23:31
dmcglone1I'm serious, he's the most calm and collective individual I've ever met23:31
dmcglone1No wonder he's a leader!23:32
paultagawwww.23:32
Unit193Over on another channel, there is a great guy like that23:32
dmcglone1He's a natural23:32
paultagthank you guys23:32
dmcglone1well hello paul23:32
dmcglone1I thought you were on your way to Boston23:33
paultagafternoon dmcglone1, how are things?23:33
paultagdmcglone1: Yessir, flight was at 7:00 AM :)23:33
paultagI'm already wicked bummed23:33
dmcglone1Doing good man.23:33
dmcglone1are you in Boston yet?23:33
paultagdmcglone1: yeah, I'm sitting just west of the city, watching Netflix on my Wii. Super hot out today23:34
dmcglone1Cool. are you staying with family?23:34
paultagdmcglone1: yeah, for now. I'm heading down the cape to live on my own in a few days, just hanging out around here for now23:34
paultagdmcglone1: I'm interviewing for a few positions, so I have no idea where i'll end up :)23:35
dmcglone1Well I wish you the best of luck! Hopefully your position will be here in c-bus we need somebody to keep this city in check :-)23:35
paultagdmcglone1: :D23:36
dmcglone1If it was up to me, I'd fire the whole city!23:36
paultagdmcglone1: Hahaha23:37
dmcglone1with my back the way it's been the past week, I could grab someone and just wring their neck.. :-/23:38
dmcglone1Unit193: what channel and who? (are you pulling my leg and telling me paul was in another channel?) :-)23:39
* dmcglone1 some dumb not plumb dumb :-)23:40
Unit193paultag is there too, but I was thinking of another23:40
dmcglone1I see. he must be a Bostonian too..23:41
paultagUnit193: :)23:42
paultaghehe23:43
Unit193paultag: I'm sure you know who (To be fair, I still don't know you too well :) )23:43
paultagUnit193: what channel?23:43
dmcglone1Unit193: I suggest you get to know him! Great personality he has!23:44
Unit193paultag: We are in two of the same channels. #Zenix23:44
paultagUnit193: Ah, I know everyone in zenix23:44
paultagUnit193: bodhi/ibuclaw ?23:44
Unit193slacker_nl?23:44
paultagI like him. We don't talk much but he seems really nice23:44
dmcglone1paultag: Send your mom a dozen roses from me, and tell her she did a damn good job raising you! :-)23:44
* Cheri703 now has a nook reserved for the 10th :D23:45
paultagdmcglone1: awww, will do :)23:45
paultagCheri703: wooot!23:45
* Cheri703 doesn't want to wait 2 weeks though23:45
Unit193I need to get to know more of the great people..23:45
paultagCheri703: let me know if you can hack 'em :)23:45
dmcglone1is the nook for reading books?23:46
Cheri703I'll keep you posted23:46
Cheri703yeah dmcglone1 e-ink reader23:46
Cheri703I just told my brother that for his birthday present, I'll review the nook for him (the 10th is his bday)23:46
dmcglone1I see. I don't read that much because when I start I never stop and I hate that!23:46
paultagCheri703: nice! They look so awesome23:46
Cheri703yeah, I'm excited23:47
dmcglone1how much do they run?23:47
Cheri703aaaand I can get to the B&N on the bus, so don't have to try to bum a ride :)23:47
Cheri703$13923:47
Cheri703dmcglone1: the new one was just announced tuesday23:47
dmcglone1dang. Do you have to rent or buy the books also?23:47
paultagI really want to turn that reader into a kickass feed digester23:48
Cheri703well...you can buy books from them, you can buy books from other sites, you can get free legal ebooks, you can "check out" ebooks from the library, ooooor you can download them from torrent sites :)23:48
Cheri703so there are several options23:49
dmcglone1or a kickass food digester ;-)23:49
Unit193paultag: I was talking about bodhi (Still don't know ibuclaw well)23:50
paultagUnit193: get to know ibuclaw, let him know you're friends with me23:50
dmcglone1I see. I'll stick to traditional means, I like to keep commerce around here healthy23:50
paultagUnit193: we go back about 3 years or so :)23:50
* dmcglone1 is going to take a little break and stand up to loo23:51
dmcglone1loosen back23:51
paultagrock on23:52
Cheri703dmcglone1: standing up to loo = headed to the bathroom?23:52
Cheri703;)23:52
Cheri703husband and I are headed to the farmer's market downtown tomorrow23:52
Unit193Might be hard standing23:52
dmcglone1takes me about 3 minutes to just get up!23:52
Cheri703apparently it's every friday til the end of september23:52

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