[00:24] <Cheri703> we're an exciting lot, eh?
[00:29] <canthus13> YAY!!!
[00:29]  * canthus13 whistles.
[00:29]  * canthus13 goes back to sleep.
[00:34] <Unit193> There was a storm...
[00:35] <Cheri703> yep
[00:35] <Cheri703> more coming Unit193
[00:35] <Cheri703> www.fullscreenweather.com
[00:36] <Unit193> Isn't it fun? You can blame canthus13 if you want...
[00:36] <Unit193> (Can't view sites on this slow connection
[00:36] <Cheri703> ah
[01:19] <Unit193> Talk about a storm... Cheri703 Did you hear that last one??
[01:20] <TheErk> I am the storm!
[01:20] <Cheri703> yeah, it's working its way through
[01:20] <Cheri703> o/ TheErk
[01:20] <TheErk> Dear Satan I am glad to be hme.
[01:21] <Unit193> ...
[01:21]  * Cheri703 is playing with Calibre and getting stuff converted to epub in anticipation of getting the nook...2.5 weeks til it's available though :/
[01:21] <TheErk> Today hela sucked
[01:29] <TheErk> How were your days?
[01:31] <Cheri703> same ol' same ol'
[01:35] <canthus13> Uh. Wow.  http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110525/ap_on_re_as/as_new_zealand_human_balloon
[01:35] <dmcglone1> Anyone watching Idol?
[01:35] <canthus13> dmcglone1: No. I'm quite sane, thank you.
[01:36] <dmcglone1> canthus13: you believe that crap?
[01:36] <dmcglone1> lol
[01:37] <dmcglone1> YooHoo let me let you in on a secret.....Yahaoo is full of shit!
[01:37] <canthus13> dmcglone1: Meh.
[01:37] <Cheri703> it's been in a lot of places today
[01:37] <Cheri703> it's a real news story
[01:37] <canthus13> It's AP story...
[01:38] <dmcglone1> Unbelieabable
[01:38] <dmcglone1> oops
[01:38] <dmcglone1> unbelieveable
[01:41] <dmcglone1> Steven Tylor cracks me up!
[02:28] <cheri703-mobile> Power went out...
[02:28] <canthus13> cheri703-mobile: Ew.
[02:29] <canthus13> cheri703-mobile: Addict.
[02:30] <AndChat|> Eh, It's ok. Was in the middle of a movie, but no biggie. We have candles and such
[02:31] <canthus13> AndChat|: Nice nick.
[02:31] <AndChat|> Bah, one sec
[02:33] <cheri703_mobile> Ok
[02:37] <cheri703-mobile> SkrappJaw: power go out?
[02:38] <SkrappJaw> no.
[02:38] <SkrappJaw> not yet
[02:38] <SkrappJaw> did yours?
[02:39] <SkrappJaw> cheri703-mobile: We're all good in Madison
[02:39] <cheri703-mobile> Ours went out a while ago
[02:40] <cheri703-mobile> Lots of sirens
[02:43] <Unit193> cheri703-mobile: We still have it...
[02:43] <SkrappJaw> dang
[02:43] <cheri703-mobile> Just came back on :-)
[02:44] <SkrappJaw> Ya. Katie is out also. she's on S.main
[02:44] <SkrappJaw> Cool.
[02:48] <Cheri703> power is back :)
[02:49] <SkrappJaw> Good good!
[02:59] <Cheri703> anything exciting going on tonight?
[03:02] <TheErk> This is about it
[03:03] <TheErk> And now.. bedtime.. Night folks
[03:04] <canthus13> Cheri703: Storms.
[03:05] <Cheri703> eh
[03:05] <Cheri703> not THAT exciting
[03:05] <canthus13> Heh.
[03:05] <canthus13> Watch the weather channel.. it's pretty exciting.
[03:05] <canthus13> this entire system is freaking insane.
[03:06] <Cheri703> no cable
[03:09] <Cheri703> watching "unknown"
[03:09] <Cheri703> I was most of the way through it when the power went out
[03:26] <Cheri703> \o/ liam neeson in "OMG I will kick your butt! and then kill you!" mode :)
[03:26] <Cheri703> scooter2: one awesome thing I forgot to mention about andchat
[03:26] <Cheri703> if you start typing a nick and then press and hold on the text field, you can choose "complete nick" which is a MAJOR lacking feature from others
[03:27] <scooter2> Cheri703: it works! Awesome!
[03:27] <Cheri703> yeah, it's super handy :)
[03:28] <scooter2> Yeah, thanks! I'm still getting used to having a phone that does things. It used to be only calls and an alarm clock...
[03:29] <Cheri703> heh
[03:29] <Cheri703> if you need android pointers or app recommendations, let me know :)
[03:29] <Cheri703> ooo, and for alarm clock, I use "alarmed"
[03:29] <Cheri703> it lets you have the volume increase slowly, also lets you set math or anagram questions that have to be answered before it gets shut off :)
[03:29] <dmcglone1> lord I am so thankful American Idol is over!
[03:30] <scooter2> Sure! I'll check that out. although I'm terrible at anagrams. Glad I don't have a roommate anymore.
[03:31] <Cheri703> you can turn them off, choose either/or, both, or none
[03:32] <scooter2> dmcglone1: American Idol is gone for good?
[03:35] <dmcglone1> No scooter, season is over :-) yippie yay, I hate that show, but everyone here watches it
[03:35] <dmcglone1> jgould: you here?
[03:37] <dmcglone1> Every time I hear an artist who made it big from Idol, I just can't bring myself to respect them as much as an artist that had to go through blood sweat and tears to make it big
[03:40] <Cheri703> storm is picking up again
[03:42] <scooter2> Oh no! How was is for you this evening?
[03:42] <dmcglone1> hasn't been bad at all here in south columbus
[03:44] <Cheri703> scooter2: we lost power for a while
[03:44] <Cheri703> about an hour or so
[03:44] <Cheri703> not terrible
[03:45] <scooter2> Cheri703: my alert light went blue! I didn't know it had any other color than green!
[03:46] <Cheri703> heh, nice!
[03:46] <Cheri703> what phone?
[03:48] <scooter2> Motorola Droid 2 (r2d2).  Apparently blue is the color for incoming calls. What android device do you use?
[03:52] <Cheri703> ah, I have a sprint hero
[03:52] <Cheri703> it's old, but I like it :)
[04:02] <scooter2> We just switched from sprint to verizon. The phone I had with sprint was amazingly indestructable. A lot of respect for LG products.
[04:03] <scooter2> Well, got to go. Hope the storm passes over you!
[04:03] <Cheri703> OMG I AM SO BORED
[04:03] <Cheri703> nothing to watch, and nothing I am in the mood to work on from my to do list
[04:03] <Unit193> Run out in the rain~
[04:04] <Cheri703> no
[04:04] <Unit193> It was an idea...
[04:04] <Cheri703> >.>
[04:04] <Cheri703> <,<
[04:04] <Cheri703> no
[04:04] <Cheri703> :)
[04:05] <Cheri703> seriously I'm antsy and I have acid reflux and I want to DO something but there is nothing to do
[04:14] <Cheri703> power flicked off again
[04:16] <Unit193> We have had a little power changes, but nothing that turns it off
[04:24] <Unit193> Cheri703: Did you look outside?? It's CRAZY with lightning!!
[04:24] <Cheri703> it is actually calmer here at the moment, but it's going over you first
[04:28] <Unit193> It's calm here too, just TONS of lightning!
[04:32] <Cheri703> ah, gotcha
[04:46] <Cheri703> o.O Unit193: go to www.fullscreenweather.com  there is still a LOT coming
[04:50] <Cheri703> canthus13: you've been quiet today
[04:52] <Unit193> Note to self: Bad time to take a walk....
[04:57] <Cheri703> If the power goes out again, I'm just going to go to bed
[05:18] <Unit193> locobot_1 got the cut!
[05:18] <popman> hey
[05:23] <Unit193> Howdy popman
[05:23] <popman> hey what's up?
[05:23] <Unit193> Big storm!
[05:23] <popman> yeah I know
[05:23] <popman> lol
[05:23] <popman> more to come apprently
[05:24] <Unit193> How about you? Haven't "seen" you in a while
[05:24] <popman> I'm good
[05:24] <popman> just been busy
[05:24] <popman> =P
[05:27] <Unit193> Nice to have you back!
[05:29] <popman> haha
[05:29] <popman> I've been idling in the darkness :D
[05:32] <Unit193> I've noticed. we're in 4 of the same channels :D
[05:43] <Unit193> Now we have _bbb and _bbb_
[06:18] <popman> :D
[14:29] <Derath-Srvr> Hi all
[15:00] <Derath-Srvr> Man, last night was wild...
[15:01] <Derath-Srvr> some of the cities near me got pelted with golf-ball to baseball sized hail
[15:03] <Derath-Srvr> Hi Scooter
[15:37]  * jgould blinks, and now has to craft a response to Jon Buckley's Email...
[15:54] <scooter2> Hi Derath-Srvr! Sorry for the slow response. How are you?
[15:54] <Derath-Srvr> Alive and no damage from last night :) so at least that much is going for me :)
[15:57] <scooter2> Always a plus! Really nice outside now, strangely enough.
[15:58] <Derath-Srvr> Will change again later today...
[15:58] <Derath-Srvr> shouldn't be as bas as last night thought
[15:58] <Derath-Srvr> err though
[15:58] <Derath-Srvr> was insane near me...
[15:59] <scooter2> Are you south of Cleveland? It was really bad there.
[15:59] <Derath-Srvr> Dayton
[15:59] <deejoe> tornados?
[15:59] <Derath-Srvr> I think a few F0-F1s...
[15:59] <deejoe> I was a kid when the huge one came through Xenia
[15:59] <Derath-Srvr> Mostly hail damage though
[16:00] <Derath-Srvr> Between the hail and 90+ mph winds...
[16:01] <scooter2> Yeah, the weather map had a huge multicolor blob over you all evening...
[16:01] <Derath-Srvr> lol Yeah
[16:01] <Derath-Srvr> Reports of golf-ball to baseball+ sized hail...
[16:02] <Derath-Srvr> I think there were quite a few rotation clouds, but I don't think many formed...
[16:04] <Derath-Srvr> And the news reporters were on from 6:30 to well after midnight... lol long day for them
[16:04] <Derath-Srvr> Need to check the house tonight for damage
[16:04] <scooter2> Aren't we supposed to have a cold front coming in soon?
[16:08] <Derath-Srvr> something...
[16:08] <Derath-Srvr> we have another system coming in soon/now...
[16:08] <Derath-Srvr> brb
[16:14] <Derath-Srvr> back
[17:01] <scooter2> Need to eat. See you!
[17:15] <Cheri703> I'm always amazed at the difficulty people have with the difference between "petal" "pedal" and "peddle" even amongst bike "professionals"
[17:16] <Cheri703> I see petaling and peddling more often than pedaling >.<
[17:34] <deejoe> such is life in a post-literate society
[17:54] <Cheri703> true
[17:55] <_bbb> i saw someone write "torchered" yesterday
[17:55] <Cheri703> >.<
[17:56] <_bbb> the worse part it was my religion zealot aunt posting on Jesus's facebook page
[17:56] <_bbb> so many facepalms so little time
[17:58] <_bbb> i wanted to tell her that wasnt really Jesus
[17:58] <_bbb> he's still on myspace
[17:59] <Derath-Srvr> lol
[18:25] <Derath-Srvr> lol
[18:26] <Derath-Srvr> So which email was it you needed to reply to?
[18:26]  * Cheri703 is poking her nose into the NEO thing :)
[18:26] <jgould> I saw that Cheri703
[18:26] <jgould> I need to respoond to the one from Jon Buckley RE: Columbus UH
[18:28] <Cheri703> jgould: at least there's a response!
[18:28] <Cheri703> also for reference, jon buckley is itsafork
[18:28] <Unit193> 20 emails this morning...
[18:29] <Derath-Srvr> lol
[18:29] <jgould> I noticed XD
[18:30] <Derath-Srvr> And too much going on... Cols UH wants moved, NEO UH wants to be moved and needs new leadership lol
[18:30] <Cheri703> and the election!
[18:33] <jgould> I think that we are a robust group that can sort all three of these issues out and grow stronger all at the same time.
[18:33] <jgould> Unit193: 20 Emails from the list?
[18:34] <Unit193> jgould: Total this morning (after I went to sleep)
[18:34] <Unit193> Just got another (12 or 13 from list)
[18:34] <jgould> Heh
[18:35] <Cheri703> jgould: +1
[18:35] <jgould> I have already gotten around 60 emails since about 6am...
[18:35] <Cheri703> the group as a whole has been really stagnant for a while
[18:35] <Cheri703> so (IMO) some changes need to happen in order to bring in new people.
[18:36] <Cheri703> New people join the LP group, but they don't often show up to things, or make it to the IRC room, and the forum is pretty dead as well
[18:36] <Cheri703> so...I think we need to put more effort into the IN PERSON meetings
[18:36] <jgould> Cheri, your statemnet about multiple UH's in a city may be the answer to the issues plauging the Cols. UH.  Have a second one on a diferent night at a slightly diffrent time...
[18:36] <jgould> Get them to the in person events and then bring them into every thing else from there?
[18:36] <Cheri703> yeah jgould
[18:37] <Cheri703> a LOT of people would be MUCH more comfortable sitting next to someone having ubuntu explained or problems fixed vs navigating IRC and such
[18:37] <Cheri703> and those are some of the people that we WANT to encourage
[18:37] <jgould> Yep.
[18:37] <Cheri703> the people who are only using windows because that's what came on their computer and don't know there's something better
[18:37] <Cheri703> the ones who get scared into buying a new computer that will barely run win7 because xp is losing support, etc
[18:38] <Cheri703> and those people are NOT going to be finding an irc room or forum or whatever, but if they have the opportunity to go and sit in person with others and find out, they'd probably do so
[18:38] <jgould> You guys have seen my struggles via IRC but what I've mentioned is not really much compared to what I've had to deal with to get this laptop wroking
[18:38] <Cheri703> yeah
[18:39] <jgould> (although I am in the Mac OS at the moment.  With the storms last night I would have had to tether my phone if I needed to roll, and I can't do that in Ubuntu at the momemnt.
[18:39] <Cheri703> do you use usb tether or wireless?
[18:41] <jgould> Bluetooth, but I haven't had time to try to find any scripts for the modem in the phone (A RIM BlackBerry 9700 that does not act as a hotspot.) I haven't tried a USB tether...
[18:41] <jgould> I may have to do that when I finish my email..
[18:43] <Cheri703> ah, ok
[18:43] <Cheri703> I use wireless tether for root users on android
[18:43] <Cheri703> SUPER EASY
[18:45] <jgould> And Cheri, I think that Mansfield is close enough to NEO that you do have some possible insight into what they are trying to do...
[18:45] <jgould> BRB,  Rebooting
[18:47] <Unit193> I was on IRC for the longest time before getting LP (That was more because paultag was on my back)
[18:47] <Unit193> Howdy SMK / skellat
[18:47] <Cheri703> o/ skellat
[18:47] <skellat> And the map for pinning where you are in Northeast Ohio can be found at: http://ur1.ca/4a7wb
[18:47] <skellat> Hello Cheri703 and Unit193
[18:47] <paultag> Unit193: :)
[18:48] <paultag> hey skellat :)
[18:48] <skellat> paultag: How is the weather in Boston?
[18:48] <paultag> skellat: hot as it's ever been :)
[18:48] <paultag> it's nice
[18:48] <paultag> skellat: how's things up your wasy?
[18:48] <skellat> Excellent
[18:49] <paultag> Erie's treating you well, I hope :)
[18:49] <skellat> paultag: Last night had some scary moments for storm cells.
[18:49] <Cheri703> skellat: If I refer to you in an email, how do you prefer?
[18:49] <jgould> We had some pretty bad ones down here in Columbus too...
[18:50] <skellat> Cheri703: Yikes, I'm known in so many ways.  SMK works, Stephen works...I dunno.  I haven't been styled as Professor Kellat for a while as I've lack faculty status for a few years, alas...
[18:50] <Cheri703> heh, ok
[18:51] <skellat> Cheri703: Your interjection in the thread is mightily appreciated, too.  This is probably the most active the mailing list has been in a while.
[18:51] <paultag> +1
[18:51] <Cheri703> :) good, glad it's helpful
[18:51] <jgould> I agree, skellat
[18:52] <Derath-Srvr> Wow, lots of chat...
[18:52] <Derath-Srvr> too bad there's no "Summarize the window for me" button lol
[18:52]  * Unit193 still is scared of the ML
[18:52] <paultag> Derath-Srvr: ha!
[18:52] <Unit193> Derath-Srvr: +1000
[18:52] <paultag> Unit193: nah!
[18:52] <paultag> it's just email
[18:52] <jgould> The ML?
[18:52] <jgould> Never mind
[18:52] <paultag> mailing list
[18:52] <paultag> :)
[18:53] <jgould> Taht dawned on me after I hit enter
[18:53] <paultag> :)
[18:53] <Derath-Srvr> lol
[18:53] <Derath-Srvr> Don't you hate it when that happens lol
[18:53] <skellat> Unit193: My big worry in the referenced thread is what on earth the bounds of the NEO ReLoCo are.  Finding an appropriate scale for organizing communities is the big debate.  Right now we're pinning a Google Map to look for clumping in the distribution of participants.
[18:53] <Cheri703> posted to the list, but I want one of these on our site: http://ubuntu-uk.org/where-are-we/
[18:54] <Cheri703> that'd be awesome for a. creating new relocos/ubuntu hours, and b. for new people to see that there are others near them
[18:54] <Derath-Srvr> Question, do I put in two pins? lol One for Dayton and one for Cols? lol
[18:55] <Cheri703> Derath-Srvr: IMO, put one anywhere you are likely to participate regularly
[18:55] <Derath-Srvr> lol
[18:55] <jgould> BRB
[18:56] <Cheri703> so if someone from dayton says "hmm...anyone near me?" they see that there is, if someone from columbus says "how many potential U-H attendees?" they can count you
[18:56] <skellat> Derath-Srvr: At this point, mainly just looking for clumping of participants.  We gotta get a grip on how far apart NEO folks are distance-wise.
[18:56] <jgould> Sweet!  I'm tethered
[18:56] <Derath-Srvr> congrats
[18:56] <jgould> Ok, Back to wifi!
[18:57] <Cheri703> I'm watching some HORRIBLE low budget movie...it's really dumb
[18:57] <Derath-Srvr> crank2?
[18:57] <skellat> Cheri703: It looks like Alan's using the same stuff as I am EXCEPT that he's doing some API stuff to place things on the map.
[18:57] <skellat> Derath-Srvr: I liked that movie.
[18:57] <Cheri703> ok, I think it'd be awesome to have it on the site
[18:58] <jgould> That was easier to set up in Ubuntu than it was in the MacOS...  I had to install RIM's software to make it work...
[18:58] <Cheri703> could be as general as neighborhood or something, but...yeah
[18:58] <Derath-Srvr> lol it was a train wreck... horrible, but you just can't look away
[18:58] <Cheri703> "Cross" it's dumb
[18:58]  * Cheri703 HEARTS jason statham
[18:58]  * Cheri703 could look at him alllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll day
[18:58] <Unit193> The next Ubuntu Ohio meeting is NOW ;)
[18:59] <Cheri703> heh Unit193
[18:59] <Cheri703> new topic: Jason Statham
[18:59] <Cheri703> ;D
[18:59] <Derath-Srvr> right when i have a work mtg too... sigh
[18:59] <Cheri703> my favorite fight scene in ANY movie: the bus garage scene in The Transporter
[19:00] <Cheri703> with the oil and the bicycle pedals :D
[19:00] <Derath-Srvr> bbiab
[19:00] <skellat> I gotta duck out to deal with stuff in the non-Ubuntu world.  Happy map pinning and please play it up on Twitter and Identica.
[19:01]  * Unit193 doesn't know who Jason Statham is
[19:02] <Cheri703> http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005458/
[19:03] <Cheri703> also: http://www.moviewatchlist.com/cast_gallery/images/Jason%20Statham%20%288%29.jpg :D
[19:03] <Cheri703> wow this movie is dumb
[19:04] <Unit193> I may have seen The Transporter and I have seen The Pink Panther
[19:05] <Cheri703> the transporter is teh awesome
[19:06] <jgould> Sunbury is about to get pounded...
[19:09]  * Cheri703 finds it amusing that the majority of people who have pinned the map are J names
[19:09] <jgould> Heh
[19:10] <jgould> that's cause us J names are on the ball...
[19:12] <jgould> There is a google list for the Columbus ReLoCo?
[19:13] <Cheri703> I am sorely tempted to respond "set up a filter and / or just ignore"
[19:13] <Cheri703> I was unaware of a google group
[19:13] <Cheri703> yet another "closing things off from new folks who have no idea things exist" in my opinion :/
[19:14] <jgould> This is the pooint of a mailing list...
[19:18]  * jgould blinks...  There is very little info on this google group that we didn't know existed...
[19:19]  * Cheri703 didn't bother joining it
[19:20] <Cheri703> filters filters filters people
[19:21] <jgould> You go, Cheri!
[19:22] <Cheri703> ?
[19:22] <jgould> Your email
[19:22] <Cheri703> oh
[19:22] <jgould> the owner of the google group for the Columbus ReLoCo is Brian
[19:22] <Cheri703> :)
[19:23] <Unit193> Stop with the email! Too much! ;)
[19:24] <Cheri703> filters
[19:25] <jgould> i get on average, 300 Emails a day.  do i read them all, no. do I have filters set up, yes. Do they all still go into my inbox, yes.  they go into a unified inbox on my phone too... I see every message...
[19:26] <Cheri703> my ohio ones are labeled and stay in inbox, but other lists get archived and labeled
[19:26] <Cheri703> woo gmail
[19:26] <Cheri703> and the new labs feature for nested labels
[19:26] <Cheri703> I have "ubuntu lists" and then sub labels
[19:27] <jgould> oh, the 'many members' he speaks of number at 23 Heh
[19:27] <Cheri703> and how many of those participate regularly?
[19:27] <Cheri703> I just think we need to revitalize things
[19:27] <Cheri703> as I said, very stagnant
[19:28] <Cheri703> According to Launchpad, we have "386 active members"
[19:28] <Cheri703> HA
[19:28] <Cheri703> not even close
[19:29] <Cheri703> as far as actually active
[19:29] <Cheri703> and participating/contributing/interacting with other users
[19:29] <jgould> I have to go back to the beginning of 2010 to find activity that is not Gilbert on the ReLoCo page for Columbus
[19:30] <Cheri703> and granted, a large portion are "read" users vs "write" users (not going to necessarily contribute back in), but they all put forth at least enough effort to find the loco group, so they're more than just "omg someone put this on my computer!" users
[19:30] <Cheri703> :/
[19:30] <jgould> Aren't  you guys supposed to be campaiging or something for the council?
[19:31] <Cheri703> yeah, a bit
[19:31] <Cheri703> should I take the stuff I've said in here and make an email? :)
[19:32] <Cheri703> I note that in brian's response he doesn't address the "gee, I *could* set up a filter" concept :/
[19:32] <jgould> So far there have been 7 emails on this reloco list this year, that are all Gilbert restating that there is a UH...
[19:35] <Cheri703> yeah :/
[19:35] <jgould> I think you should... This is how we are going to become active again....
[19:35] <Cheri703> I will work on putting some thoughts together
[19:36] <jgould> We also determined it a great
[19:36] <jgould> place because, though--yes-- you have to pay..
[19:36] <jgould> that to me is a down side... period
[19:36] <Cheri703> yeah agreed (though I don't drive ;) )
[19:36] <Cheri703> and besides, some people don't like parking in garages, want to see their car
[19:38] <jgould> I don't care for garages, and plus I have some equipment mounted in my car that I would like to keep for me, not let someone else have...
[19:38] <jgould> Isn't itsafork the head of the Ohio LoCo?
[19:39] <Unit193> One of them
[19:41] <Cheri703> yeah, itsafork and gilbert
[19:42] <Unit193> + Cheri703 or SMK
[19:43] <Cheri703> did my last message come across as facetious?
[19:45] <jgould> No
[19:45] <Cheri703> k
[19:45] <jgould> you are stating a valid point.  Most of the email I get I don't care about...
[19:46] <jgould> And the columbus UH discussions are for the list as a whole.  300+ members versus the 23 that are on the Google Group?  Hmm...  Which one has the higher precentage of people that live in Cols...
[19:47] <Cheri703> I feel like I need to check with people, I know how I mean things, but I don't know how they're taken by others
[19:47] <jgould> I feel the same way you do
[19:48] <jgould> I'm on a nationwide list for a progam that lets you see track occupancy for freight trains.  Most of the email on there I could care less about, sometimes things pique my intrest so I read them and end up learning something...
[19:49] <Cheri703> any list that is "globally relative [sic] to every member" is USELESS
[19:50] <Cheri703> on most of my lists, about 10-20% applies directly to me, that's just how it works
[19:50] <Cheri703> the whole point is to reach those new people who may have joined and not located the specialized groups, etc
[19:51] <Cheri703> line from this horrible movie (by gary busey's son, which tells you something right there) "duude, you're a BIG bad guy"
[19:51] <Cheri703> -_-
[19:53] <jgould> Maybe we need a new ReLoCo for Columbus...  I don't know.  The location works if you live on campus.  I'm not shelling out $40 (last I heard) for parking passes from T&P so I can attend UH
[19:53] <jgould> I'll BRB
[19:53] <Cheri703> kk
[19:55] <Cheri703> you know...one good thing about me being on the council (if elected) I am actually in the irc room regularly, and easy to reach as needed
[19:56] <Cheri703> :)
[19:56] <Unit193> +1!
[19:56] <jgould> +1
[19:57] <Unit193> I also have your gmail and and google talk
[19:58] <Cheri703> heh
[19:58]  * jgould blinks at the most recent email from Brian...
[19:58] <Cheri703> yeeeah
[19:58] <Cheri703> we DO have a forum, but again, a LOT of people don't go look at it
[19:58] <Cheri703> and new people are MUCH more able to handle a mailing list than a forum
[19:58] <jgould> I don't like fourms
[19:59] <jgould> It's harder to respond while moble (well figurtivly,  I can tether my phone now XD)
[19:59] <Unit193> I don't go to the LoCo one...
[19:59] <Unit193> I'm a ML reader and IRC person only it seems
[19:59] <Cheri703> he is the embodiment of the mentality I was talking about earlier: It should be this way because I want it this way, and OBVIOUSLY it shouldn't be what it has blatantly evolved into because *I* think it shouldn't :/ at least that's the vibe I'm getting from him
[19:59] <Cheri703> I go to forums, but 90% dead ones I don't check very often at all
[20:00] <Cheri703> don't need to, since no one ever posts there
[20:00] <Unit193> (For the record. There are only 183 on the ML)
[20:00] <Cheri703> yeah, no idea where the other 100+ are...
[20:00] <Cheri703> :)
[20:00] <Cheri703> might see if there's a way to send messages to people who aren't actually on the list
[20:02] <jgould> I'm with you, Unit193.  I prefer Email
[20:02] <jgould> (and IRC)
[20:02] <Unit193> I don't email the list (I'll just ask Cheri703 to do it ;D )
[20:03] <Cheri703> mmmmhm
[20:04] <jgould> Does anyone else see discussions appearing on their other mailing lists?
[20:05] <Unit193> [163 messages expunged from folder "INBOX"] <--- Had to change my filters because of you ;)
[20:05] <Cheri703> mmhm
[20:06] <jgould> XD
[20:06] <Cheri703> yeah jgould, if it turns into an exchange between two people, then it goes off the list, but if multiple people are giving input, then it is big
[20:17] <Derath-Srvr> lol
[20:19] <Derath-Srvr> Sup Masked
[20:20] <canthus13> ...wow. Someone needs to pull the cactus out of their butt.
[20:21] <canthus13> the discussion on the ML is neatly threaded by google, and was easy enough to filter into one folder. :/
[20:21] <Derath-Srvr> ?
[20:22] <Derath-Srvr> Okay, you have to give me a min to catch up... my phone can only show so much at a time lol
[20:55] <MaskedDriver> a cactus canthus13?
[20:55] <MaskedDriver> 113 messages in May
[20:55] <MaskedDriver> I don't care if they're nicely threaded... That's excessive
[20:56] <canthus13> Then quit the list.
[20:56] <MaskedDriver> 15 in April
[20:56] <MaskedDriver> no.. because I like to know what's happening in the LoCo
[20:57] <MaskedDriver> not what every ReLoCo is doing day-to-day
[20:57] <MaskedDriver> We have forums that that kind of stuff can be used for as wel
[20:58] <MaskedDriver> I wonder how many people HAVE quit from the spam at this point
[20:59] <Cheri703> messages discussing topics that can be relevant (even generally) to other groups (most of the stuff lately hasn't been SUPER specific to one group) isn't really spam...
[20:59] <jgould> MaskedDriver: None
[20:59] <Derath-Srvr> How about how many have quit because of the lack of traffic?
[20:59] <jgould> Now that one, I can't answer
[20:59] <Cheri703> the group has been 90% dead for a long time
[21:00] <Derath-Srvr> Pretty much..
[21:00] <Cheri703> sure ubuntu-hours have been happening, but no new people have really been showing up
[21:00] <Cheri703> new people show up on lp, but then nothing happens, so they leave
[21:00] <canthus13> Then set up filters, use a threading client. Mailing lists work quite well as forums for people who don't know about the forum, would rather not have to go to a separate site to keep up, etc.  You're only the second person I've seen in 3 years to complain about ML volume.
[21:00] <MaskedDriver> only publicly
[21:00] <Cheri703> people were pissy about the "other" columbus group, the WHOLE reason they were started was because of the LoCo being so stagnant
[21:01] <jgould> I'm on several mailing lists that generate 100+ emails a day.  all of them make my phone vibrate.  I don't do much more than shake all day.  I find email easier to use than a fourm
[21:02] <Cheri703> I have mailing lists that generate upwards of 30 CONVERSATIONS in gmail per day, can be a few hundred individual messages depending on how chatty they are
[21:02] <MaskedDriver> that's excessive
[21:02] <Cheri703> it is
[21:02] <Cheri703> but I filter them and read at my leisure
[21:02] <Cheri703> so it is completely unobtrusive
[21:02] <Cheri703> and sometimes I just delete without reading, as it's mostly a chatty list vs an action list
[21:03] <Cheri703> ok bye
[21:03] <jgould> plus you don't have to read every email that shows up.  I know I don't.
[21:03] <jgould> Ragequit?
[21:03] <Cheri703> *shrug* dunno
[21:03] <Cheri703> he did pop out and back earlier
[21:04] <Cheri703> anyway. I see nothing wrong with actually utilizing the list
[21:04] <jgould> I don't either.
[21:04] <canthus13> prolly.
[21:04] <Cheri703> and as stated: I am more than happy to help people set up their email filters :)
[21:04] <jgould> :)
[21:05] <Cheri703> brian reminds me of my husband: defensive over EVERYTHING
[21:05] <Cheri703> at least that's how he's coming across
[21:05] <Derath-Srvr> Also note: the irc is logged and is available on the net :)
[21:06]  * jgould shrugs
[21:07] <Cheri703> ooo, it was a ragequit
[21:07] <Cheri703> he left
[21:07] <Cheri703> he deactivated himself from the team
[21:07] <Derath-Srvr> oh well
[21:07] <Derath-Srvr> his loss
[21:08] <jgould> Yep
[21:09] <jgould> I understand the ReLoCo's having indivual lists, but for some matters, the statewide list is better....
[21:09] <canthus13> Reloco lists just further complicate things for people who barely have a handle on one list.
[21:10] <jgould> Or have no clue that the reloco list exists in the first place
[21:10] <Derath-Srvr> as he generates one more email to the list (the deactivate email)
[21:11] <canthus13> Nice to see someone followign my suggestions...
[21:11]  * canthus13 wonders if hell unfriend him in facebook.
[21:11] <canthus13> he'll.
[21:12] <canthus13> (Not that I even noticed the deactivate mail... I have those filtered. :)
[21:12] <Cheri703> heh
[21:12] <Derath-Srvr> lol
[21:12] <jgould> Heh
[21:14] <jgould> Also, as Natty was Just released a month ago, does it not make sense that there would be more traffic following a release?
[21:14] <Derath-Srvr> :X
[21:14] <Derath-Srvr> Afternoon Eric
[21:15] <jgould> I loved how it got slient in here when he came in
[21:16] <EricR2427> Hello
[21:16] <Derath-Srvr> lol
[21:16] <Derath-Srvr> It's always that way, unless gilbert, paultag, or jacob come in lol
[21:17] <canthus13> Derath-Srvr: Nah. you're just not around late in the evenings when me, Cheri703, Unit193, and jgould get going.
[21:17] <jgould> Heh
[21:17] <jgould> we're the overnight shift...
[21:18] <canthus13> :D
[21:18] <Derath-Srvr> Well, since I took a first shift job, I can't be up all night anymore
[21:18] <Cheri703> well gosh Derath-Srvr, you should QUIT so you can be on IRC all night! I mean, come on, where are your priorities?!
[21:18] <canthus13> Heh.
[21:19] <jgould> He even left the reloco google group
[21:20] <jgould> I was excpecting to find my self a short lived member...
[21:20] <canthus13> Wow. brian was a rather long-term member...
[21:21] <jgould> All over a few emails...
[21:22] <Cheri703> canthus13: when I went to the columbus ubuntu-hour the one time, he REALLY didn't seem to want new people there. he mostly ignored me and only talked to gilbert and the one guy whose name I forget now
[21:22] <Cheri703> I really got the impression that he's TOTALLY content to have the group be tiny and not grow at all
[21:22] <jgould> I'm going to take a nap.  Be back in a few hours
[21:22] <Cheri703> which is completely inconsistent with what the goals should be (at least in my opinion)
[21:22] <canthus13> Yup.
[21:24] <Cheri703> *shrug*
[21:24] <Derath-Srvr> Cheri: have to afford the inet connection lol
[21:24] <Cheri703> I need to write up my "campaign platform"
[21:24] <Cheri703> what do you mean Derath-Srvr?
[21:25] <Derath-Srvr> Priorities lol
[21:25] <Cheri703> ah, gotcha
[21:25] <Cheri703> true
[21:25] <Derath-Srvr> Need to be able to afford connecting, so I have to have a job lol
[21:25] <Cheri703> psh, you could get a part time job for that, internet isn't thaaat expensive
[21:25] <Derath-Srvr> And it's better to be at the UH while there are actually people there, I went and no one was there
[21:25] <Cheri703> though if husband gets a job, I'm really tempted to try for a faster connection
[21:25] <canthus13> Cheri703: ...I don't think you'll be getting brian's vote. :)
[21:26] <Derath-Srvr> lol
[21:26] <Derath-Srvr> Would he be an absentee ballot now?
[21:26] <canthus13> Derath-Srvr: ...not unless he left the launchpad group.
[21:26] <Cheri703> yeah..I don't think so
[21:29] <Derath-Srvr> Wow... lost power here in dublin...
[21:30] <Derath-Srvr> briefly
[21:30] <Cheri703> he deactivated himself on lp
[21:30] <Derath-Srvr> LMAO!
[21:30] <Cheri703> he's under "former members"
[21:31] <canthus13> Wow.
[21:31] <Derath-Srvr> Think he'll go to the "meet-up" group? lol
[21:31] <Cheri703> hehe, dunno
[21:32] <Cheri703> someone named "funkyhut" is also a deactivated member :D
[21:46] <canthus13> ...I know a funkyhat...
[21:46] <canthus13> He's in England...
[21:48] <Cheri703> hehe
[22:21] <Cheri703> http://failbook.failblog.org/2011/05/26/funny-facebook-fails-pedophile-busted-using-facebook-in-apple-store
[22:26] <Cheri703> more storm coming
[22:26] <Unit193> I kinda noticed the rain, Cheri703
[22:26] <Cheri703> it's not raining here yet
[22:29] <Cheri703> now it is
[22:30] <Unit193> It had been raining for a little
[22:30] <Cheri703> not here
[22:32]  * canthus13 wonders what tomorrows convective outlook is like...
[22:33] <dmcglone1> Hello
[22:33] <Unit193> dmcglone1: You missed all the fun!
[22:33] <dmcglone1> back pain is getting better by the day :-)
[22:33] <canthus13> Ooo... nice. nothing at all over ohio tomorrow.
[22:34] <dmcglone1> I did Unit193
[22:34] <dmcglone1> what did I miss
[22:34] <canthus13> a hissy fit over mailing list traffic. :/
[22:34] <Cheri703> ragequit
[22:34] <dmcglone1> Huh?
[22:34] <Unit193> Where is the "people that have quit" part? I never found it...
[22:35] <dmcglone1> was it a discussion in IRC?
[22:35] <Cheri703> lp page, all members, scroll toward bottom (or ctrl-f mask) :)
[22:35] <Cheri703> part of it was on the list, part in here
[22:35] <dmcglone1> I see. what in the world was it over?
[22:36] <canthus13> dmcglone1: people actually used the mailing list.
[22:36] <Cheri703> people actually using the list to discuss things
[22:36] <dmcglone1> Oh wow, I opened my mail and got 24 emails from the list alone. seems to be a record... LOL
[22:37] <Unit193> I only see Active and Pending...
[22:38] <dmcglone1> Active and Pending what Unit193?
[22:39] <Unit193> LP > All Members and Active or Pending only
[22:39] <dmcglone1> Oh Ok
[22:41] <dmcglone1> How do I add a pin to my location on the google map?
[22:41] <Cheri703> edit
[22:48] <Cheri703> fire truck just drove by
[22:48]  * canthus13 used to live a block from a fire station...
[22:50] <dmcglone1> I have no idea how to add a pin and my name to my location
[22:50] <dmcglone1> I clicked edit and it's like a maze
[22:50]  * canthus13 has no idea how to find the map.
[22:50] <Cheri703> dmcglone1: on the left, just above the name of the map, there should be an edit button, NOT the one above the map itself (sorry, wasn't clear)
[22:50] <dmcglone1> canthus13:  http://ur1.ca/4a7wb
[22:50] <Cheri703> dmcglone1: just go back to the main link
[22:51] <Cheri703> ok, that button isn't showing up now -_-
[22:51] <dmcglone1> I clicked the "edit" at the top of the page, but it's not letting me add a pin to my location for some reason
[22:52] <Cheri703> ok, I see it
[22:52] <Cheri703> the one in the left panel or the one in the map panel?
[22:54] <canthus13> Hmm.. can't find an edit button.
[22:54] <canthus13> (Other than the one at the top...)
[22:54] <Cheri703> try loading it again
[22:55] <Cheri703> the first time I clicked, it didn't show up, then I clicked it again and it did
[22:55] <dmcglone1> Ok I wasn't signed in to google :-/
[22:55]  * Cheri703 thinks directions should have been included with the map
[22:56] <dmcglone1> I think we should have been able to just type our address in and then add a pin to it
[22:58] <canthus13> There. Fixed.
[22:58] <canthus13> refresh did it.
[23:04] <Cheri703> kk
[23:06] <dmcglone1> Heh, read the e-mails. makes me disgusted!
[23:07] <Unit193> dmcglone1: You should have seen when he joined IRC :D
[23:07] <dmcglone1> isn't discussing things related to Ubuntu on the list the purpose of it????
[23:08] <dmcglone1> I guess were are supposed to google our brains out till we find the info, if ever.
[23:09] <Unit193> Just join #ubuntu ;)
[23:09] <dmcglone1> I think the list should be used for any and all communications among every Ubuntu Member
[23:10]  * Unit193 hasn't once sent an email to the list (Don't plan too)
[23:11] <Cheri703> dmcglone1: and know about obscure google groups -_-
[23:13] <dmcglone1> Not that I would change the way we are doing things, but there is a website for advertising and scheduling meets, it can be found at http://www.meetup.com I use it exclusively for my PHP meetups
[23:14] <Cheri703> that's what the other ubuntu group uses :)
[23:14] <Cheri703> there was some reason I didn't like meetup...I forget why
[23:14] <Cheri703> I thought you had to pay to create a group? or something?
[23:16] <dmcglone1> well I can safely say, if this type of behaviour he deems as the holy grail is forced on us I'll most certainly walk away
[23:19] <Cheri703> I completely disagree with everything (as far as I remember, didn't look back at it) that he said, so...
[23:19] <Cheri703> if I make it to the council (hint hint nudge nudge) then don't expect those sorts of attitudes :)
[23:19] <dmcglone1> Heh, if he thinks I'm joining that google group he's out of his mind. I don't patronise with dictators :-/
[23:21] <dmcglone1> It was his overall tone  that got me
[23:22] <dmcglone1> I commend jgould for keeping his cool :-)
[23:23] <dmcglone1> and you too Cheri703
[23:24] <Cheri703> thanks
[23:25] <dmcglone1> I should have said that earlier, but it's usually the guy that wants to beat the crap out of people like that
[23:28] <dmcglone1> well now what? are we going to continue to keep things how they are or do we have to learn a whole new set of rules?
[23:28] <Cheri703> now what what?
[23:28] <Cheri703> what do you mean?
[23:28] <Cheri703> nothing really changed as a result of today
[23:28] <dmcglone1> are we not allowed to post anything to the mailing list?
[23:28] <Cheri703> no one agreed with him
[23:29] <Cheri703> just carry on as before
[23:29] <dmcglone1> good
[23:30] <dmcglone1> I ask myself: how would paultag handle this one? LOL
[23:31] <Cheri703> hehe
[23:31] <Cheri703> wwptd
[23:31] <Cheri703> what would paul tag do
[23:31] <dmcglone1> LOL
[23:31] <dmcglone1> I'm serious, he's the most calm and collective individual I've ever met
[23:32] <dmcglone1> No wonder he's a leader!
[23:32] <paultag> awwww.
[23:32] <Unit193> Over on another channel, there is a great guy like that
[23:32] <dmcglone1> He's a natural
[23:32] <paultag> thank you guys
[23:32] <dmcglone1> well hello paul
[23:33] <dmcglone1> I thought you were on your way to Boston
[23:33] <paultag> afternoon dmcglone1, how are things?
[23:33] <paultag> dmcglone1: Yessir, flight was at 7:00 AM :)
[23:33] <paultag> I'm already wicked bummed
[23:33] <dmcglone1> Doing good man.
[23:33] <dmcglone1> are you in Boston yet?
[23:34] <paultag> dmcglone1: yeah, I'm sitting just west of the city, watching Netflix on my Wii. Super hot out today
[23:34] <dmcglone1> Cool. are you staying with family?
[23:34] <paultag> dmcglone1: yeah, for now. I'm heading down the cape to live on my own in a few days, just hanging out around here for now
[23:35] <paultag> dmcglone1: I'm interviewing for a few positions, so I have no idea where i'll end up :)
[23:35] <dmcglone1> Well I wish you the best of luck! Hopefully your position will be here in c-bus we need somebody to keep this city in check :-)
[23:36] <paultag> dmcglone1: :D
[23:36] <dmcglone1> If it was up to me, I'd fire the whole city!
[23:37] <paultag> dmcglone1: Hahaha
[23:38] <dmcglone1> with my back the way it's been the past week, I could grab someone and just wring their neck.. :-/
[23:39] <dmcglone1> Unit193: what channel and who? (are you pulling my leg and telling me paul was in another channel?) :-)
[23:40]  * dmcglone1 some dumb not plumb dumb :-)
[23:40] <Unit193> paultag is there too, but I was thinking of another
[23:41] <dmcglone1> I see. he must be a Bostonian too..
[23:42] <paultag> Unit193: :)
[23:43] <paultag> hehe
[23:43] <Unit193> paultag: I'm sure you know who (To be fair, I still don't know you too well :) )
[23:43] <paultag> Unit193: what channel?
[23:44] <dmcglone1> Unit193: I suggest you get to know him! Great personality he has!
[23:44] <Unit193> paultag: We are in two of the same channels. #Zenix
[23:44] <paultag> Unit193: Ah, I know everyone in zenix
[23:44] <paultag> Unit193: bodhi/ibuclaw ?
[23:44] <Unit193> slacker_nl?
[23:44] <paultag> I like him. We don't talk much but he seems really nice
[23:44] <dmcglone1> paultag: Send your mom a dozen roses from me, and tell her she did a damn good job raising you! :-)
[23:45]  * Cheri703 now has a nook reserved for the 10th :D
[23:45] <paultag> dmcglone1: awww, will do :)
[23:45] <paultag> Cheri703: wooot!
[23:45]  * Cheri703 doesn't want to wait 2 weeks though
[23:45] <Unit193> I need to get to know more of the great people..
[23:45] <paultag> Cheri703: let me know if you can hack 'em :)
[23:46] <dmcglone1> is the nook for reading books?
[23:46] <Cheri703> I'll keep you posted
[23:46] <Cheri703> yeah dmcglone1 e-ink reader
[23:46] <Cheri703> I just told my brother that for his birthday present, I'll review the nook for him (the 10th is his bday)
[23:46] <dmcglone1> I see. I don't read that much because when I start I never stop and I hate that!
[23:46] <paultag> Cheri703: nice! They look so awesome
[23:47] <Cheri703> yeah, I'm excited
[23:47] <dmcglone1> how much do they run?
[23:47] <Cheri703> aaaand I can get to the B&N on the bus, so don't have to try to bum a ride :)
[23:47] <Cheri703> $139
[23:47] <Cheri703> dmcglone1: the new one was just announced tuesday
[23:47] <dmcglone1> dang. Do you have to rent or buy the books also?
[23:48] <paultag> I really want to turn that reader into a kickass feed digester
[23:48] <Cheri703> well...you can buy books from them, you can buy books from other sites, you can get free legal ebooks, you can "check out" ebooks from the library, ooooor you can download them from torrent sites :)
[23:49] <Cheri703> so there are several options
[23:49] <dmcglone1> or a kickass food digester ;-)
[23:50] <Unit193> paultag: I was talking about bodhi (Still don't know ibuclaw well)
[23:50] <paultag> Unit193: get to know ibuclaw, let him know you're friends with me
[23:50] <dmcglone1> I see. I'll stick to traditional means, I like to keep commerce around here healthy
[23:50] <paultag> Unit193: we go back about 3 years or so :)
[23:51]  * dmcglone1 is going to take a little break and stand up to loo
[23:51] <dmcglone1> loosen back
[23:52] <paultag> rock on
[23:52] <Cheri703> dmcglone1: standing up to loo = headed to the bathroom?
[23:52] <Cheri703> ;)
[23:52] <Cheri703> husband and I are headed to the farmer's market downtown tomorrow
[23:52] <Unit193> Might be hard standing
[23:52] <dmcglone1> takes me about 3 minutes to just get up!
[23:52] <Cheri703> apparently it's every friday til the end of september