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Zburatorultesting04:25
charlie-tcaZburatorul: working04:25
Zburatorulthanks04:45
Zburatoruli just configured my irc client to use freenode thru tor04:46
charlie-tcaSeems to be working fine.04:46
charlie-tcaGood luck with it.04:46
buntyhi all09:34
buntywhen i use hardware synth ( soundblaster card ) in rosegarden I can't record it's master output in Ardour.  However if I use a software synth I can.  Any ideas how I can fix  this?09:38
holsteinbunty: ?14:05
holsteinpersonally, i wouldnt lose sleep over getting anything from creative working14:06
holsteinbunty: i have an old soundblaster card around the house somewhere, so if you'd like to elaborate, or start a bug report, i could try to get involved14:07
buntysorry was afk14:08
buntyturns out i had a different capture device14:08
buntynow im just using the audigy card as the sol device14:09
holsteinyeah, those labels can be incorrect too14:09
holsteincool.. check out #opensourcemusicians :)14:09
buntyok, im in ardour atm14:10
buntyi gots lots to learn14:10
mak_ubu10hey... on what channel to put kernel related questions.....21:12
charlie-tca#ubuntu-kernel21:13
mak_ubu10thanks....21:13
mak_ubu10sad.... did'nt got any response...21:29
holsteinmak_ubu10: whats up?21:29
mak_ubu10hey... on what channel to put kernel related questions.....21:30
holsteinmak_ubu10: depends really21:30
mak_ubu10i went to #ubuntu-kernel21:30
holsteinif you are asking the UKT about -lowlatency or -realtime, you probably wont get a response21:30
holsteinwhats the question?21:30
mak_ubu10my problem is that my computer waits for 25 minutes during boot....right after the "loading hardware drivers" step.....21:31
holsteinmak_ubu10: you wait 25 minutes for your machine to boot?21:32
holsteinthats patients ;)21:32
mak_ubu10yes....21:32
holsteinmak_ubu10: have you looked for a bug relating to your hardware?21:32
holsteinhave you tried disabling hardware to see what seems to be causing the issue?21:33
holsteinhave you tried different kernels?21:33
mak_ubu10but it boots....21:33
holsteinlike 10.04 live21:33
holsteineven 8.04 live21:33
holsteinmak_ubu10: you're not going to catch an UKT member on the IRC to discuss that with21:34
holsteinbest case scenario, you get one to respond to a forum post, or email thread21:34
mak_ubu10actually... i have two HDD... one of them is a little corrupted....21:34
holsteinmak_ubu10: ??21:34
holsteintheres no such thing21:34
holsteinthat'll cause the machine to hang21:34
holsteinmak_ubu10: unplug the hard drives21:35
holsteintry a live CD21:35
holsteinand then you'll know what the cause is21:35
mak_ubu10it works fine when i unplug the bad one.... but it waits when the bad one is inserted.... even when the os is not on it....21:36
holsteinlol21:36
holsteinmak_ubu10: nothing about the kernel will let you use bad hardware*21:36
holsteinlinux is just awesome, not magic21:36
holsteinuse something like http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec if you have to21:37
mak_ubu10i thinki just want to know the kernel parameters that will skip the regular steps to test each and every HDD21:37
holsteinand get your data off, and fix it, or replace it21:37
holsteinmak_ubu10: just unplug it, boot, and use something via USB21:37
holsteinor something like http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/21:38
mak_ubu10isnt there any parameter that can skip the HDD integrity check or something like that....21:39
holsteinmak_ubu10: probably, but i dont know what it is21:39
holsteinand, thats not something you want to do long-term21:40
mak_ubu10i would have to wait a month for a new hdd21:40
holsteinmak_ubu10: you wont be waiting long at all when it stops working altogether*21:40
holsteinmaybe you can do something tricky like shrink the partition21:41
holsteinand get around the bad sectors ;)21:41
holsteinany of that kind of thing should be an emergency case to recover the data21:41
holsteinif that drive is dying, you cant trust it for anything anyways21:41
mak_ubu10actually windows boots faster with the bad hdd plugged....so i thought linux can too....21:42
holsteinits not an issue of booting21:42
mak_ubu10btw... how to know about bad sectors....21:42
holsteinits either its dying or its not21:43
holsteinmak_ubu10: i use http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/21:43
holsteintheres a utility on the ubuntu live CD's to scan as well21:43
mak_ubu10i used UBCD and its diagnosis tools...21:43
holsteinmak_ubu10: windows is maybe not checking the drive21:43
mak_ubu10it didnt help me....21:44
holsteinmak_ubu10: ??21:44
holsteinits not *magic*21:44
mak_ubu10thats what i m talking about...21:44
holsteintheres not a way to *fix* it21:44
holsteinyou just learn that its dying21:44
holsteinget the data off21:44
mak_ubu10i want linux to do the same....21:44
holsteinand move on21:44
holsteinmak_ubu10: you'll need to search around and ask someone else how to do that21:44
holsteinim not sure21:44
holsteinAND21:44
holsteinagain, thats something you *dont* want turned off in the long term21:44
holsteini feel like you are wanting to just use the drive21:45
holsteinand you cant21:45
holsteinif its dying, its dying21:45
holsteini mean, you might get some data to read or write to it for who knows how long21:45
mak_ubu10it is 500G with more than 8 operating systems on it21:45
holsteinmak_ubu10: doesnt matter whats on it21:45
holsteinthats why you need good backups*21:45
holsteinits a tough lesson, but hard drives die21:47
holsteinits not a matter of if they die21:47
holsteinits when21:47
mak_ubu10need to buy a lot of DVDs then... but i m more worried about the Opearting systems...21:48
holsteinyou should be worried about the DAT21:48
holsteinA21:48
holsteinyou should feel fortunate if you get that data recovered21:49
holsteinits tough when you have a lot of proprietary OS's21:49
holsteinthey dont like to be moved around easily for legal reasons21:49
holsteinyou can basically dd copy linux installs21:49
holsteinnot sure about windows21:50
holsteinstill, you dont know what is corrupted on the disc now anyways21:50
holsteinSO, for me, i wouldnt trust anything as far as in the OS's21:50
mak_ubu10@holstein... thanx for the answers.... and sorry for disturbing...... bye.....21:59

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