[04:25] <Zburatorul> testing
[04:25] <charlie-tca> Zburatorul: working
[04:45] <Zburatorul> thanks
[04:46] <Zburatorul> i just configured my irc client to use freenode thru tor
[04:46] <charlie-tca> Seems to be working fine.
[04:46] <charlie-tca> Good luck with it.
[09:34] <bunty> hi all
[09:38] <bunty> when i use hardware synth ( soundblaster card ) in rosegarden I can't record it's master output in Ardour.  However if I use a software synth I can.  Any ideas how I can fix  this?
[14:05] <holstein> bunty: ?
[14:06] <holstein> personally, i wouldnt lose sleep over getting anything from creative working
[14:07] <holstein> bunty: i have an old soundblaster card around the house somewhere, so if you'd like to elaborate, or start a bug report, i could try to get involved
[14:08] <bunty> sorry was afk
[14:08] <bunty> turns out i had a different capture device
[14:09] <bunty> now im just using the audigy card as the sol device
[14:09] <holstein> yeah, those labels can be incorrect too
[14:09] <holstein> cool.. check out #opensourcemusicians :)
[14:10] <bunty> ok, im in ardour atm
[14:10] <bunty> i gots lots to learn
[21:12] <mak_ubu10> hey... on what channel to put kernel related questions.....
[21:13] <charlie-tca> #ubuntu-kernel
[21:13] <mak_ubu10> thanks....
[21:29] <mak_ubu10> sad.... did'nt got any response...
[21:29] <holstein> mak_ubu10: whats up?
[21:30] <mak_ubu10> ﻿hey... on what channel to put kernel related questions.....
[21:30] <holstein> mak_ubu10: depends really
[21:30] <mak_ubu10> i went to ﻿#ubuntu-kernel
[21:30] <holstein> if you are asking the UKT about -lowlatency or -realtime, you probably wont get a response
[21:30] <holstein> whats the question?
[21:31] <mak_ubu10> my problem is that my computer waits for 25 minutes during boot....right after the "loading hardware drivers" step.....
[21:32] <holstein> mak_ubu10: you wait 25 minutes for your machine to boot?
[21:32] <holstein> thats patients ;)
[21:32] <mak_ubu10> yes....
[21:32] <holstein> mak_ubu10: have you looked for a bug relating to your hardware?
[21:33] <holstein> have you tried disabling hardware to see what seems to be causing the issue?
[21:33] <holstein> have you tried different kernels?
[21:33] <mak_ubu10> but it boots....
[21:33] <holstein> like 10.04 live
[21:33] <holstein> even 8.04 live
[21:34] <holstein> mak_ubu10: you're not going to catch an UKT member on the IRC to discuss that with
[21:34] <holstein> best case scenario, you get one to respond to a forum post, or email thread
[21:34] <mak_ubu10> actually... i have two HDD... one of them is a little corrupted....
[21:34] <holstein> mak_ubu10: ??
[21:34] <holstein> theres no such thing
[21:34] <holstein> that'll cause the machine to hang
[21:35] <holstein> mak_ubu10: unplug the hard drives
[21:35] <holstein> try a live CD
[21:35] <holstein> and then you'll know what the cause is
[21:36] <mak_ubu10> it works fine when i unplug the bad one.... but it waits when the bad one is inserted.... even when the os is not on it....
[21:36] <holstein> lol
[21:36] <holstein> mak_ubu10: nothing about the kernel will let you use bad hardware*
[21:36] <holstein> linux is just awesome, not magic
[21:37] <holstein> use something like http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec if you have to
[21:37] <mak_ubu10> i thinki just want to know the kernel parameters that will skip the regular steps to test each and every HDD
[21:37] <holstein> and get your data off, and fix it, or replace it
[21:37] <holstein> mak_ubu10: just unplug it, boot, and use something via USB
[21:38] <holstein> or something like http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/
[21:39] <mak_ubu10> isnt there any parameter that can skip the HDD integrity check or something like that....
[21:39] <holstein> mak_ubu10: probably, but i dont know what it is
[21:40] <holstein> and, thats not something you want to do long-term
[21:40] <mak_ubu10> i would have to wait a month for a new hdd
[21:40] <holstein> mak_ubu10: you wont be waiting long at all when it stops working altogether*
[21:41] <holstein> maybe you can do something tricky like shrink the partition
[21:41] <holstein> and get around the bad sectors ;)
[21:41] <holstein> any of that kind of thing should be an emergency case to recover the data
[21:41] <holstein> if that drive is dying, you cant trust it for anything anyways
[21:42] <mak_ubu10> actually windows boots faster with the bad hdd plugged....so i thought linux can too....
[21:42] <holstein> its not an issue of booting
[21:42] <mak_ubu10> btw... how to know about bad sectors....
[21:43] <holstein> its either its dying or its not
[21:43] <holstein> mak_ubu10: i use http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/
[21:43] <holstein> theres a utility on the ubuntu live CD's to scan as well
[21:43] <mak_ubu10> i used UBCD and its diagnosis tools...
[21:43] <holstein> mak_ubu10: windows is maybe not checking the drive
[21:44] <mak_ubu10> it didnt help me....
[21:44] <holstein> mak_ubu10: ??
[21:44] <holstein> its not *magic*
[21:44] <mak_ubu10> thats what i m talking about...
[21:44] <holstein> theres not a way to *fix* it
[21:44] <holstein> you just learn that its dying
[21:44] <holstein> get the data off
[21:44] <mak_ubu10> i want linux to do the same....
[21:44] <holstein> and move on
[21:44] <holstein> mak_ubu10: you'll need to search around and ask someone else how to do that
[21:44] <holstein> im not sure
[21:44] <holstein> AND
[21:44] <holstein> again, thats something you *dont* want turned off in the long term
[21:45] <holstein> i feel like you are wanting to just use the drive
[21:45] <holstein> and you cant
[21:45] <holstein> if its dying, its dying
[21:45] <holstein> i mean, you might get some data to read or write to it for who knows how long
[21:45] <mak_ubu10> it is 500G with more than 8 operating systems on it
[21:45] <holstein> mak_ubu10: doesnt matter whats on it
[21:45] <holstein> thats why you need good backups*
[21:47] <holstein> its a tough lesson, but hard drives die
[21:47] <holstein> its not a matter of if they die
[21:47] <holstein> its when
[21:48] <mak_ubu10> need to buy a lot of DVDs then... but i m more worried about the Opearting systems...
[21:48] <holstein> you should be worried about the DAT
[21:48] <holstein> A
[21:49] <holstein> you should feel fortunate if you get that data recovered
[21:49] <holstein> its tough when you have a lot of proprietary OS's
[21:49] <holstein> they dont like to be moved around easily for legal reasons
[21:49] <holstein> you can basically dd copy linux installs
[21:50] <holstein> not sure about windows
[21:50] <holstein> still, you dont know what is corrupted on the disc now anyways
[21:50] <holstein> SO, for me, i wouldnt trust anything as far as in the OS's
[21:59] <mak_ubu10> @holstein... thanx for the answers.... and sorry for disturbing...... bye.....