| charlie-tca | ochosi: when I middle click on the desktop, I get a menu list of all open workspaces and the apps open in them. Unfortunately, the apps are in dark grey on the default menu background | 04:00 |
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| charlie-tca | ochosi: thanks for doing the SRU. It is great when things work, isn't it? | 04:26 |
| micahg | need anything sponsored? | 04:33 |
| charlie-tca | no, got stephane graber on it | 04:33 |
| micahg | cool, I'm in the middle of other stuff anyways :) | 04:34 |
| charlie-tca | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/787977 | 04:35 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 787977 in xfce4-indicator-plugin (Ubuntu Natty) "doesn't support vertical panel layout" [Undecided,Fix committed] | 04:35 |
| micahg | yeah, I saw that one go in | 04:35 |
| charlie-tca | micahg: thanks for keeping an eye out for us, though. | 04:35 |
| micahg | heh, I had a chat with robert_ancell this evening who is interested in our experiences with the lightdm API | 04:36 |
| charlie-tca | Good. I would like to keep him somewhat informed so it doesn't get turned into a Unity only thing now. | 04:37 |
| micahg | charlie-tca: no, that would be as bad as GDM, I believe he wants it to be so everyone can make their own greeter | 04:42 |
| charlie-tca | I know that is the intent, but it is easy to get caught up in the main distro, and leave the rest behind | 04:43 |
| charlie-tca | If we are at least talking to him, he knows we need some help at times, too. | 04:43 |
| charlie-tca | I pushed for lightdm at UDS, so he knew I planned to use it. | 04:43 |
| charlie-tca | If I understand things though, he would prefer each group prepare their own backend for lightdm? | 04:44 |
| charlie-tca | or is it frontend? | 04:45 |
| charlie-tca | I don't know now. I have to rest for a few hours. | 04:45 |
| charlie-tca | Good morning | 15:13 |
| ochosi | hey charlie-tca | 15:34 |
| charlie-tca | Hello, ochosi | 15:34 |
| ochosi | about the workspaces-bug, thanks for reporting that | 15:35 |
| charlie-tca | You are welcome | 15:35 |
| ochosi | i never use the middle-click menu, so i didn't notice | 15:35 |
| charlie-tca | I didn't know about it until my two-year grandson hit the stupid button | 15:35 |
| ochosi | i'm not quite sure why it happens though, and the menu is a bit hard to track (since it's directly on the desktop) | 15:35 |
| ochosi | i guess i'll have to dive into the xfdeskop code a bit | 15:36 |
| charlie-tca | but, if it works right, we really could get rid of workspaces completely, right? | 15:36 |
| ochosi | how do you mean? | 15:36 |
| charlie-tca | If you can hit the middle button of the mouse to see the workspaces, add workspaces, delete workspaces, you don't need the workspace applet on the panel anymore | 15:37 |
| ochosi | right | 15:37 |
| ochosi | yeah, we could get rid of that if we want to | 15:37 |
| ochosi | the functionality is in the menu as well | 15:37 |
| charlie-tca | I see it as makeing the panel a little easier to use, then | 15:37 |
| ochosi | (even if not as apparent as in the panel) | 15:37 |
| charlie-tca | right, but I can still write a couple of articles that says you can do it that way, and there is always the wiki to add a page if we want to | 15:38 |
| ochosi | true | 15:38 |
| charlie-tca | I just don't want to hide workspaces completely from people | 15:38 |
| ochosi | btw, i was thinking an article about vertical panels in xubuntu/xfce might be a nice thing | 15:39 |
| ochosi | since the indicator-plugin patch will land in natty | 15:39 |
| charlie-tca | That would be great if they work now | 15:39 |
| charlie-tca | Vertical panels have always been a bit of a problem | 15:39 |
| ochosi | at least if one enables "proposed" it should be ok | 15:39 |
| ochosi | actually with the indicators working now there's only one panel-plugin that doesn't work as expected in a vertical panel and that's the session menu | 15:40 |
| charlie-tca | I will grab the file and verify it then, and we can have it in natty updates within about 10 days | 15:40 |
| ochosi | the rest is really great | 15:40 |
| ochosi | yeah, sounds good | 15:40 |
| charlie-tca | I never expected it to happen quite that fast. Usually we are on the bottom of the list for devs to do things. | 15:41 |
| ochosi | don't think it was just because of us | 15:41 |
| ochosi | but Mark__T responded really really fast, that's true | 15:41 |
| ochosi | pretty great move i'd say | 15:41 |
| charlie-tca | and to have sgraber to pick it up and finish the sru, too | 15:43 |
| ochosi | yep | 15:43 |
| ochosi | that was another reason to write the article, to be able to thank them somehow | 15:44 |
| ochosi | but what we're really lacking is a platform for that | 15:44 |
| charlie-tca | we are making gains in small steps with everybody these days | 15:44 |
| ochosi | obviously a lot of website stuff is pending on the move to wordpress | 15:44 |
| charlie-tca | Yeah, we have to just write the article and push it through news for now | 15:44 |
| charlie-tca | yes, and IS did not make it any easier for us | 15:44 |
| ochosi | yeah, that is a very frustrating situation | 15:45 |
| charlie-tca | yup | 15:46 |
| charlie-tca | all the way around, too | 15:46 |
| ochosi | back at square one | 15:46 |
| ochosi | i'm wondering whether moving to some other hosting might be easier | 15:47 |
| charlie-tca | It would need funding, wouldn't it? | 15:47 |
| ochosi | i assume so, or just some sabdfl | 15:48 |
| ochosi | universities might be an option | 15:48 |
| charlie-tca | also, Canonical owns the name | 15:48 |
| ochosi | hmm | 15:48 |
| ochosi | not sure the name-thing is a problem if we only switch hosting | 15:48 |
| charlie-tca | They would have to give us permission to move the domain | 15:50 |
| charlie-tca | That was a pot I preferred not to stir up | 15:52 |
| ochosi | :) | 15:52 |
| charlie-tca | mr_pouit: where/what are the seeds for Xubuntu cd's? I need to add them to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricOcelot/ReleaseManifest | 16:19 |
| drc | Well, it appears that Oneiric 64LiveCD install now has a "blue screen of death". | 17:21 |
| charlie-tca | Gaining, huh? | 17:22 |
| drc | Boots thru the "UBUNTU DOT DOT DOT" screen to a ubuntu backgound, then to a blue screen where dies | 17:22 |
| charlie-tca | There was over 50% changed today | 17:23 |
| charlie-tca | VBox, or hardware? | 17:23 |
| drc | No, yesterday it mae it to a "OH no! Something bad has happened" screen. Today it didn't make it that far (or maybe it made it past that, can't tell) | 17:23 |
| drc | liveUSB to hdd | 17:24 |
| charlie-tca | oh, yeah, USB has issues today | 17:24 |
| drc | Would it make a difference if I used unetbootin onstead of the ubuntu liveusb creater? | 17:25 |
| drc | Hope they get the USB problem fixed before Xubuntu starts nightly builds, I only have about 3 cd's in the house. | 17:27 |
| charlie-tca | you might try unetbootin. It worked for me in natty when usbcreator would not | 17:29 |
| drc | will do | 17:29 |
| drc | Well, unetbootin got it to the "Oh no!" screen. | 17:37 |
| drc | There's always tomorrow.... | 17:37 |
| charlie-tca | yup | 17:39 |
| drc | They have 4 days to fix it :) | 17:39 |
| charlie-tca | well.... technically. Sometimes we don't get USB to work for a few weeks | 17:40 |
| drc | Looks like I'm gonna have to make a trip to Best Buy. | 17:41 |
| charlie-tca | give it a day yet | 17:42 |
| drc | I'll give it until the 31st (we are still on tack for that?) | 17:43 |
| charlie-tca | um, no | 17:43 |
| charlie-tca | It could be wednesday before we get an image | 17:43 |
| charlie-tca | I have to go day by day right now | 17:43 |
| charlie-tca | We don't expect an image before monday, at least, right now | 17:44 |
| drc | 100 pack of CD's are only USD15 now...I really should get out more. | 17:44 |
| charlie-tca | yup | 17:45 |
| charlie-tca | seems high, though | 17:45 |
| charlie-tca | I watch for them at $10.00 whenever possible | 17:45 |
| drc | The sale ads come out Sunday :) | 17:46 |
| charlie-tca | My limit is $15.00, when I really have to pay that much | 17:46 |
| drc | Did the cd install work for you today? | 17:47 |
| charlie-tca | Haven't tried | 17:47 |
| charlie-tca | still updating natty to work bugs | 17:47 |
| charlie-tca | My great 155kbps here | 17:48 |
| drc | sneaker net? | 17:48 |
| charlie-tca | two computers working it, drops it down to about 80 on each one | 17:48 |
| charlie-tca | no, qwest dsl | 17:48 |
| charlie-tca | I don't even have the zsyncs done yet. But they only been going for 3 hours, too | 17:51 |
| charlie-tca | looks like we got server images today | 17:51 |
| drc | Yesterday's DT stamp | 17:56 |
| drc | lemme steal a cd from my daughter and I'll try that with live64 | 17:57 |
| drc | hmm...got rid of the iso already, well, in another 10 minutes I try it. | 18:00 |
| charlie-tca | We don't expect much until next week | 18:05 |
| drc | I just want to see if it will even get to the Try/Install screen. | 18:06 |
| drc | Like I said, I'm bored (and avoiding Honey-Do lists) | 18:06 |
| charlie-tca | trying in VBox | 18:08 |
| drc | Never used VBox (or any varitaion of the concept)...I don't even like dual boot systems. | 18:10 |
| charlie-tca | I learned to like VBox, since I can easily install any image, screw things up, and then just reinstall to have a fresh start again. All without losing my real system | 18:11 |
| drc | I should look at it then, maybe tomorrow, or the day after, or the day after that.... | 18:11 |
| charlie-tca | That's a pretty blue, anyway ;-) | 18:12 |
| drc | You got it VBox? | 18:13 |
| drc | I though it was Kubuntu for a moment. | 18:13 |
| drc | If I got it with USB and you got it with VBOX, I don't think I'm going to waste a CD. | 18:15 |
| drc | Wonder if we should publicize this...make everyone know we are catching up to MS's Blue Screen of Death? | 18:15 |
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