[00:03] <Soupermanito> :D
[00:04] <bin_bash> what's the command to restart the xfce session
[00:05] <Soupermanito> restart?
[00:05] <bin_bash> no
[00:05] <bin_bash> it's like
[00:05] <bin_bash> xfsession or something
[00:05] <bin_bash> like when i login
[00:05] <bin_bash> i have to manually start xfwm
[00:05] <bin_bash> i know the command for that is xfwm4
[00:06] <charlie-tca> it depends on how much you want to restart, but from a tty, startxfce4 starts a session
[00:06] <bin_bash> no like
[00:06] <bin_bash> i'm in xfce right now
[00:06] <bin_bash> when i login i have to manually restart xfwm4
[00:06] <bin_bash> and then
[00:06] <bin_bash> all my workspaces are gone
[00:06] <bin_bash> and i have just the one
[00:06] <Soupermanito> D:
[00:06] <charlie-tca> that should be xfsettingsd
[00:06] <bin_bash> that'd it
[00:06] <bin_bash> thnaks
[00:07] <charlie-tca> no problem
[00:07] <bin_bash> noe
[00:07] <bin_bash> nope
[00:07] <bin_bash> :(
[00:07] <charlie-tca> I got the whole list here
[00:07] <charlie-tca> xfce4-settings-helper
[00:07] <charlie-tca> xfce4-session
[00:07] <charlie-tca> xfwm4
[00:07] <charlie-tca> xfdesktop4
[00:07] <charlie-tca> xfce4-panel
[00:07] <charlie-tca> got to be one of them
[00:07] <charlie-tca> if any one of those is not running, the session has something broken
[00:08] <bin_bash> yeah something is definitely broken lol
[00:08] <charlie-tca> try each one from Alt+F2, one at a time, to see which one it is
[00:08] <bin_bash> none of them worked
[00:24] <aminiesta> which one is better xubuntu or lubuntu
[00:25] <four2zero> i think i heard it best from someone in here it like a shoe if it fits where it
[00:26] <aminiesta> my shoe is one giga size of ram
[00:26] <four2zero> xubuntu ran fine for me on 512
[00:27] <aminiesta> lighter than Lubuntu
[00:27] <bin_bash> it's all about personal preference
[00:28] <four2zero> i dunno am new as well....try ubuntu was alright try xubuntu it fits everything is logical to find and i like it and the more i sit here for hours on end and play with it the more i like it
[00:28] <four2zero> i have total of maybe 36hours of use
[00:28] <aminiesta> I'm also newbie here
[00:28] <aminiesta> I'm just give a lubuntu a try today
[00:28] <four2zero> currently got install of xp in a virtual box makin a usb windows xp installer so i can dual boot right now
[00:29] <four2zero> and then after that i gonna try and figure out how to run my xp install through virtual machine
[00:30] <four2zero> virtualbox rather
[00:31] <aminiesta> great
[00:32] <four2zero> ya installs are fairly quick and easy to change if you have a usb stick handy i have noticed
[00:34] <bin_bash> xubuntu is probably better for beginners
[00:35] <four2zero> ya i am finding that so far
[00:35] <four2zero> i feel i have acheived a lot for being brand new
[00:35] <four2zero> i have a lot of does experience from back in the early 90's but that a long time ago
[00:35] <four2zero> dos even lol
[00:37] <four2zero> my biggest help for me was understanding sudo...
[00:37] <bin_bash> sudo is important
[00:38] <four2zero> ya
[00:38] <four2zero> shoulda kept that link thati  got in here handy not in my buffer no more
[00:41] <charlie-tca> What was the link for?
[00:42] <charlie-tca> We probably can find it again
[00:57] <Soupermanito> !info virsh
[00:57] <Soupermanito> oh thank you ubottu
[00:57] <Pirevai> hekki
[00:57] <Pirevai> hello
[00:58] <Soupermanito> !hi | Pirevai
[00:58] <Pirevai> someone there?
[00:58] <Soupermanito> nope, the rupture came. and you are lonely, sorry :(
[00:58] <Pirevai> thanks
[00:58] <Soupermanito> XD
[00:58] <Pirevai> :(
[00:58] <Soupermanito> whats your problem Pirevai :D
[00:59] <Soupermanito> and how might we help you whit it? :D
[00:59] <Pirevai> I don't have any problems
[00:59] <Soupermanito> :D awesome then!
[00:59] <Pirevai> thank you for asking
[00:59] <Pirevai> ummm...
[00:59] <Pirevai> I'm just curious about Xubunto
[00:59] <Pirevai> ups
[00:59] <Pirevai> Xubuntu
[01:00] <Soupermanito> :) what is you are curious about?
[01:00] <Pirevai> I'm studing to fix computers
[01:00] <Pirevai> I'm from Paraguay
[01:01] <Pirevai> and we usually don't use Linux
[01:01] <Pirevai> and I'm curious about Linux
[01:01] <Pirevai> coz I never used before
[01:01] <Soupermanito> :) Pirevai no problem =D im from argentina che! :D
[01:01] <Pirevai> heee, ya esta ya entonces
[01:02] <Soupermanito> tho here we speak english :D
[01:02] <Pirevai> ups
[01:02] <Pirevai> sorry
[01:02] <Pirevai> ummm...
[01:02] <Soupermanito> but you could go to #ubuntu-es or #ubuntu-es-offtopic to speak whit people freely
[01:02] <Pirevai> one sec
[01:02] <Soupermanito> sadly there aint a #xubuntu-es
[01:03] <Pirevai> ohhh I see
[01:03] <Pirevai> but I don't have any problems to talk in english
[01:03] <Soupermanito> apparently there is a #xubuntu-es but is unhabitated
[01:04] <Pirevai> my wife is an american
[01:04] <Soupermanito> :) then you could go to #xubuntu-offtopic
[01:04] <Pirevai> so I talk all the time in english}
[01:04] <Soupermanito> and talk freely there :D
[01:04] <Pirevai> ohh I see
[01:04] <Soupermanito> here is for people who have problems to come and ask, there is to speak about stuff
[01:05] <Pirevai> ohh I see
[01:05] <Soupermanito> :)
[01:05] <Soupermanito> we are usually a kind community
[01:05] <Pirevai> well, so that means that I need to go to other place?
[01:05] <Pirevai> I mean, other channel?
[01:06] <bin_bash> if i want to reformat this usb would i do cd /media/ and then sudo rm -rf /CDROM/
[01:06] <Soupermanito> :) to chat about stuff not related to problems whit xubuntu, yes Pirevai :) but feel free to stay here if you want, to learn stuff XD
[01:07] <Soupermanito> bin_bash, what?
[01:07] <bin_bash> i need to wipe this usb drive
[01:07] <Soupermanito> never, ever sudo rm -rf bin
[01:07] <Pirevai> thank you Soupermanito, I will do that, thank you for your help
[01:07] <bin_bash> why?
[01:07] <Soupermanito> because its stupidly dangerous
[01:07] <bin_bash> why?
[01:08] <Soupermanito> because if you for some silly reason add a space after / cdrom/ you delete everything
[01:08] <bin_bash> oh right
[01:08] <bin_bash> ok
[01:08] <Soupermanito> also use gparted
[01:08] <Soupermanito> or some partition editor
[01:08] <bin_bash> ok
[01:09] <Soupermanito> or use gksu thunar
[01:09] <Soupermanito> and do it manually
[01:09] <Soupermanito> but never, ever sudo rm -rf
[01:12] <Cube``> halt vs poweroff?
[01:12] <Cube``> whats the diff?
[01:12] <Soupermanito> halt keeps the system runing, poweroff kills every process and saves energy.
[01:13] <Soupermanito> Pirevai, :) i recomend you to /join #ubuntu-es-offtopic
[01:13] <Soupermanito> to chat :)
[01:14] <Pirevai> thank you bro
[01:20] <bin_bash> cp: cannot create regular file `/media/Macintosh HD/Random Stuff/chakra-2011.04-kde462-i686.iso': Read-only file system
[01:20] <bin_bash> ok
[01:20] <bin_bash> how can i fix that
[01:25] <bin_bash> how can i write to a read-only file system
[01:27] <ubuntu564> how can i see all my partitions and how much of the partition is filled
[01:28] <bin_bash> sudo apt-get install gparted
[01:29] <ubuntu564> that doesnt tell me bin_bash
[01:29] <ubuntu564> just "-----" under used
[01:29] <ubuntu564> bin_bash, is there any other wall
[01:29] <ubuntu564> way*
[01:31] <bin_bash> you can use the mount command
[01:36] <Soupermanito> he is gone
[01:36] <Soupermanito> anyway bin_bash next time, you can know disk usage whit du
[01:36] <Soupermanito> no df
[01:36] <Soupermanito> whit df /dev/sda1 for example
[01:37] <Soupermanito> oh and if you use df /dev/sd* it lists all your disks :D
[01:37] <bin_bash> oh right
[01:37] <bin_bash> ok
[01:37] <bin_bash> now
[01:38] <bin_bash> how do i write to a read-only partition
[01:38] <Soupermanito> your problem
[01:38] <Soupermanito> change its attributes
[01:38] <bin_bash> i cant
[01:38] <Soupermanito> chmod 666 /dev/whateveritis
[01:38] <Soupermanito> or something like that
[01:38] <bin_bash> mehhh
[01:39] <Soupermanito> or change the usb slot you are using to toher one
[01:40] <bin_bash> no it's my os x partition
[01:40] <Soupermanito> D:
[01:41] <bin_bash> i need to put this iso over there so i dont ave to redownlaod it
[01:41] <Soupermanito> can't you mount the linux partition form osx?
[01:41] <bin_bash> no
[01:42] <Soupermanito> mmm edit fstab to give you write powers?
[01:43] <Soupermanito> bin_bash, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/how-to-edit-etc-fstab-so-that-normal-user-has-read-write-access-to-ext4-partitions-873700/
[01:45] <bin_bash> it's not ext4
[01:46] <Soupermanito> oh well can't you translate it to whatever format mac uses?
[01:47] <Soupermanito> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=338830
[01:52] <bin_bash> ugh
[01:52] <bin_bash> fkit
[01:52] <bin_bash> i'll just redownload
[01:53] <Soupermanito> :(
[02:04] <wcchandler> In 11.04 in the indicator applet, is there a way to make the background transparent?
[02:05] <Soupermanito> not knowing what the indicator applet it, will say "don't know"
[02:07] <wcchandler> Indicator Plugin...  I migrated from a default install of vanilla Ubuntu then did apt-get install xubuntu-desktop.  Then from the login screen setting I changed it to do Xubuntu.  This is whatever the default were...  The indicator plugin included an envelope, speaker, and network manager.
[02:09] <wcchandler> After deleting it then re-adding it, it doesn't show the icons anymore.  But it also doesn't show the non-transparent background.  It also doesn't show the running processes in the background. :/  Hmmm...
[02:10] <Soupermanito> can you screenshot please?
[02:10] <Soupermanito> !imagebin
[02:15] <wcchandler> http://i.imgur.com/73EDx.jpg
[02:15] <wcchandler> The area that I'm talking about looks like a grey bar to the right of the trash can
[02:17] <Soupermanito> in the panel menu, when you choose the indicator applet, cant you use the gear icon to choose properties?
[02:17] <wcchandler> A picture of the icons that were previously in the area are here: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_FJH0hYZmVtc/S8HiGi-cwJI/AAAAAAAAHVw/tx_1OqaJFH4/s400/Selection_001.png  The volume thing, mail thing, and other stuff
[02:18] <wcchandler> Nope.
[02:18] <wcchandler> I have it opened and selected but the properties gear is greyed out and unclickable.
[02:18] <wcchandler> Nevermind, I did not
[02:18] <wcchandler> in the picture
[02:19] <wcchandler> http://i.imgur.com/WE62R.png
[02:22] <Soupermanito> :( i don't know sorry
[02:22] <wcchandler> it's cool, thanks for the troubles
[04:06] <jgvox> oi
[04:06] <jgvox> algum brasileiro aqui
[04:06] <jgvox> ????
[04:06] <charlie-tca> English please, in
[04:06] <charlie-tca> this channel
[06:55] <dirtycookie> hello people, i have an eeePC 4g where i successfully installed xubuntu. my problem is that i cannot mount my sdcard into the slot. but i cat access my sdcard from an external usb cardreader without a problem. xubuntu even automounts it
[06:58] <psycho_oreos> maybe the media card controller is not supported, i.e. no drivers
[07:02] <john_rambo> Hi I am using squid caching proxy ....How use it system wide in Xubuntu
[07:02] <john_rambo> ?
[07:03] <dirtycookie> psycho_oreos: cant be, because when inserting the card to the slot, dmesg tells me that the device sdb ist being created
[07:04] <Unit193> john_rambo: Does this help? http://askubuntu.com/questions/6943/how-can-a-proxy-be-set-for-the-whole-xubuntu-system
[07:04] <psycho_oreos> weird, it might be udev issue then
[07:05] <dirtycookie> psycho_oreos: here is the dmesg part http://pastebin.com/cfyCmxEp
[07:06] <dirtycookie> psycho_oreos: funny thing is that when i use the mount command to mount the device the console halts for as long as i take out the card
[07:06] <dirtycookie> psycho_oreos: ctrl+c doesnt have any affect
[07:09] <Sysi> dirtycookie: totally fresh install, not old user configs stored?
[07:09] <dirtycookie> Sysi: no is 11.04 completely fresh
[07:26] <Kevin_Flynn> How do you change the panel color in XFCE?
[07:27] <Kevin_Flynn> How do you change the panel color in XFCE?
[07:27] <Kevin_Flynn> How do you change the panel color in XFCE?
[07:27] <Kevin_Flynn> How do you change the panel color in XFCE?
[07:28] <Sysi> repeating doesn't help
[07:28] <Sysi> from settings, if you're using 11.04
[07:28] <Kevin_Flynn> 10.10
[07:29] <john_rambo> Sysi, I got logged out ... Repeat ???
[07:29] <Sysi> john_rambo: what Kevin_Flynn said
[07:30] <john_rambo> Hi I am using squid caching proxy ....How use it system wide in Xubuntu  ?
[07:34] <Kevin_Flynn> Sorry, Instead of answering my question in Ubuntu I basically got told "go to Xubuntu stupid!"  I generally find these chats are full of people who are logged in but, not willing to help.  I thought maybe repeating would at least get me some response.
[07:35] <Sysi> !panels
[07:35] <Sysi> hum, not there
[07:36] <Sysi> easiest would be just to find new gtk-theme
[07:37] <Sysi> http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2007/10/12/howto-set-a-background-image-for-your-panel/
[07:37] <Sysi> or workaround with something like this
[07:37] <Kevin_Flynn> how do you install a new theme?
[07:39] <Sysi> extract the tarball and copy folder inside it to .themes in your home folder, you may need to create that folder
[07:58] <Kevin_Flynn> I can't create a folder in my home folder.
[08:01] <Sysi> that folder or any folder? files and folders starting with . are hidden
[08:02] <Kevin_Flynn> nevermind I gksu-ed it.
[08:09] <Kevin_Flynn> Ok, so, Gnome themes work in xfce?
[08:12] <Kevin_Flynn> Sysi, Ok, so, Gnome themes work in xfce?
[08:20] <Kevin_Flynn> Do Gnome themes work in xfce?
[08:53] <jarnos> greetings from broken desktop
[09:00] <jarnos> In Natty Windows buttons don't show up and work anymore, windows don't have title bar anymore, alt-tab does not work either...
[09:25] <four2zero> high
[09:25] <four2zero> anyway to fix a missing cursor?
[09:25] <four2zero> without reboot? am in the middle of install here and lost my mouse cursor somewhere still works but not really functional
[09:26] <four2zero> kinda like click and hope type go at it
[09:42] <TheSheep> four2zero: you can try switching to the text console and back
[09:42] <four2zero> how do i do that
[09:42] <TheSheep> four2zero: with alt+ctrl+f1 and then alt+ctrl+f7 (or f8)
[09:42] <four2zero> am in the middle of an install right now
[09:42] <TheSheep> it won't stop it
[09:42] <four2zero> ok
[09:43] <TheSheep> at least shouldn't
[09:43] <four2zero> nope no luck
[09:43] <four2zero> and my text console looks messed
[09:44] <four2zero> buncha the same beige character U where it should be black
[09:45] <four2zero> sure is taking a long time this install is
[10:02] <four2zero> anyway to safely abort an install?
[10:08] <TheSheep> four2zero: you mean undo it? no
[10:09] <four2zero> i dunno taking an aweful long time...imported my shit from a fresh xp install probably shouldn't have done that
[10:09] <four2zero> hd got lotsa activity but the lil bit of info i get from the install don't tell me much
[10:13] <four2zero> ubuntu acpid: client 1986[0:0] has disconnected
[10:13] <four2zero> ubuntu acpid: client connected from 1986[0:0]
[10:13] <four2zero> ubuntu acpid: 1 client rule loaded
[10:14] <four2zero> did that 4 times about 23 minutes ago lol
[10:20] <four2zero> i dunno man
[10:22] <four2zero> how you copy paste from terminal window? keyboard shortcut
[10:46] <TheSheep> just select it with a mouse and then press middle mouse button
[10:46] <TheSheep> no keyboard needed
[10:47] <four2zero> got no nmouse though lol
[10:48] <four2zero> almost 2 hours now on an install that normally take 20 mins
[10:48] <four2zero> wtf could be wrong and all i wanted to do was dual boot
[11:01] <four2zero> restarted install
[11:01] <four2zero> think it was the import settings from xp that was screwing up
[15:16] <charlie-tca> Ubuntu Bug Day today for compiz bugs - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20110526
[15:43] <emiel_> Hi
[15:44] <emiel_> I have a question. Is it allowed to use a domain name with xubuntu in it?
[15:45] <charlie-tca> xubuntu name is owned by Canonical, which makes that a trademark/copyright question for the corporation.
[15:46] <charlie-tca> !trademark
[15:46] <Sysi-> !logo
[15:46] <Sysi-> no..
[15:46]  * charlie-tca fails too
[15:49] <charlie-tca> http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/trademarkpolicy
[15:53] <emiel_> can i use the name xubuntu in a domain name?
[15:54] <charlie-tca> You should check out http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/trademarkpolicy
[15:54] <charlie-tca> but It would depend on how it is used. xubuntu.com/xubuntu.net, etc will not be allowed
[15:55] <charlie-tca> Things like myxubuntublog might be okay
[15:55] <emiel_> xubuntu-info.nl
[15:56] <charlie-tca> borderline, Would suggest checking with Canonical first, to save headaches later
[15:56] <emiel_> ok I will do that.
[15:56] <emiel_> thanks
[15:57] <charlie-tca> Wish I had a clear answer for you
[15:57] <charlie-tca> Ubuntu Bug Day today for compiz bugs - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20110526
[15:58]  * drc looks around for the staff lawyer...*everybody* has a lawyer these days ;)
[15:58] <charlie-tca> We use the one Canonical supplies us
[15:58] <charlie-tca> It is easier that way :-)
[15:59]  * charlie-tca doesn't see the lawyer here, either ;-)
[15:59] <emiel_> yes thanks for your help
[15:59] <drc> ninja-lawyers!
[16:01]  * drc has to do something with that indicator bug he filed, but he's not sure anymore exactly what the real problem is, it appears to have mutated.
[16:01]  * charlie-tca hates when they that. He still has a bug from natty iso testing that did that to him.
[17:05] <mnemoc> hi, can one open webm files with parole?
[17:06] <Soupermanito> webm?
[17:06] <Soupermanito> i don't know what that is
[17:06] <Soupermanito> let me do some research
[17:07] <likemindead> Not familiar with "webm" either.
[17:07] <Sysi> if it can't, vlc will
[17:08] <Soupermanito> ^
[17:08] <Soupermanito> this vlc says it can play webm
[17:08] <mnemoc> vlc leaks and eats the 4G of real ram and the 6G of swap whenever I pause
[17:08] <Soupermanito> i would try to do so,  aparently if gstreamer is updated anything that uses it should too
[17:08] <Soupermanito> so try lurking gstreamer package that supports webm
[17:09] <mnemoc> the parole-browser-plugin (or however it's called) opens the videos just fine, but the "GUI" app ignores them :(
[17:09] <mnemoc> not sure if there is any connection between both packages
[17:09] <Soupermanito> yes, thats because firefox supports webm natively
[17:10] <mnemoc> ic
[17:10] <Soupermanito> also chrom[e/ium]
[17:10] <charlie-tca> usually means the codecs or gstreamer package is not there
[17:11] <Soupermanito> mnemoc, http://www.fileinfo.com/extension/webm
[17:11] <Soupermanito> also http://www.webmfiles.org/how-to-play-webm-files/
[17:12] <Sysi> mplayer could also be worth a try, if you can't use firefox for local files
[17:12] <Soupermanito> you need to install ffmpeg apparently
[17:18] <mnemoc> Soupermanito: gstreamer-plguins-good supports webm since 0.10.29.1 .... natty has 0.10.28 :(
[17:18] <Soupermanito> :(
[17:19] <Soupermanito> isnt there a ppa for the newest version?
[17:20] <drc> clear
[17:21] <|thrawn|> are there any known problems with xfce4-xfapplet-plugin in xubuntu 11.04?
[17:21] <|thrawn|> i'm wanted to insert the gnome clock-applet into xfce (because of it's evolution-data-server integration)
[17:21] <charlie-tca> sure
[17:21] <charlie-tca> xfapplet has never been known to work very good
[17:22] <|thrawn|> :-(
[17:22] <charlie-tca> Only a few applets are available now when you install it, and once gnome3 integration finishes, it will not be usable at all.
[17:22] <charlie-tca> Not sure how it will work in the future
[17:23] <|thrawn|> is there another clock applet in xfce with support for webcal
[17:24] <|thrawn|> as far as i could see orage only supports local calendars
[17:24] <mAxImUnKiLlEr> i have a problem
[17:24] <charlie-tca> not that I know of
[17:24] <mAxImUnKiLlEr> :-D
[17:25] <charlie-tca> I looked for one about 6 months ago and could not find one
[17:25] <mnemoc> Sysi: gnome-player has the same "weakness" that chromium playing some HD webm talks... it doesn't allow me to scale the video to the size of the window so I can only see 1/4th of it :<
[17:25] <charlie-tca> mAxImUnKiLlEr: Please ask your question all in one line. All of us are volunteers and will attempt to answer if we know.
[17:25] <charlie-tca> |thrawn|: if you find one, let me know, huh?
[17:26] <mnemoc> gnome-mplayer i mean
[17:26] <|thrawn|> i will
[17:26] <charlie-tca> I used to use Sunbird, and it worked great. Now it is discontinued... :-(
[17:27] <mAxImUnKiLlEr> always good when I turn on my pc the screen instead of being usplash xubuntu patches is 11.04 please help
[17:27] <mAxImUnKiLlEr> :-$
[17:28] <|thrawn|> evolution (at least the calendar part) with it's nice integration to the gnome-clock-applet was very nice
[17:29] <mAxImUnKiLlEr> hello help me
[17:29] <|thrawn|> but gnome3  is just unusable to me, therefor i switched to xfce
[17:29] <charlie-tca> mAxImUnKiLlEr: you are not seeing the xubuntu splash?
[17:30] <charlie-tca> We don't use usplash for
[17:30] <charlie-tca> anything anymore
[17:30] <mAxImUnKiLlEr> if you see what happens is q q instead of letters there patches of otherwise perfectly
[17:31] <charlie-tca> but it will get to the desktop, right?
[17:31] <charlie-tca> just looks ugly?
[17:32] <mnemoc> nomodeset maybe?
[17:32] <charlie-tca> |thrawn|: I wound up switching to google calendar in a browser until I find something
[17:33] <mAxImUnKiLlEr> if only looks ugly but otherwise nice
[17:33] <charlie-tca> yeah, I don't think we can fix that
[17:34] <mAxImUnKiLlEr> to bad better I will change the GUI to console
[17:35] <mAxImUnKiLlEr> :)
[17:37] <|thrawn|> charlie-tca: does that give you reminders?
[17:38] <charlie-tca> yeah, but it opens them in the browser and swithes the tabs to it, and even the workspace will switch regardless of what I am doing
[17:39] <charlie-tca> Typing a sentence and having it jump to the calendar in the middle of a word is not the best thing.
[17:39] <|thrawn|> i see
[17:40] <mAxImUnKiLlEr> good bye
[17:47] <charlie-tca> !samba
[19:42] <jozefk> o/
[19:43] <jozefk> I notice red "fail" while rebooting but it was too fast to see what was it related to. I check all logs in /var/log and I don't see it anywhere. where is the log I should check?
[19:48] <Sysi> jozefk: check dmesg
[19:49] <jozefk> it was while the system was going off
[19:55] <charlie-tca> usually something unimportant, like the VBox manager or something on my system