[00:43] yofel: ping [01:29] ~ninjas | KDE 4.6.3 uploaded to Debian. Time to get merging! [01:30] !ninjas | KDE 4.6.3 uploaded to Debian. Time to get merging! [01:30] KDE 4.6.3 uploaded to Debian. Time to get merging!: Ninja Time! apachelogger, bulldog98, debfx, JontheEchidna, Lex79, maco, neversfelde, nhandler, Quintasan, rgreening, Riddell, ScottK, stalcup, txwikinger [01:57] merging ftw [02:26] weeeeeee! [02:27] oh, I'm already running 4.6.3 [02:27] hmmm [02:27] but merged from debian in nice [02:39] We need to get that done so we can more on to 4.7 beta 1. [05:27] DarkwingDuck: pong [07:04] yofel: you still about? [07:04] NM, wife calling... heading to bed, will catch ya tomorrow. [07:06] ScottK: In RE to bug 788908 this is just another reason to use Muon. [07:06] Launchpad bug 788908 in kpackagekit (Ubuntu) "kpackagekit lies about what updates will be installed" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/788908 === c2tarun_ is now known as c2tarun [08:52] my head hurts [08:52] mine too [08:52] must be in genes then ^ [08:53] apachelogger: did you fix the fcking amarok bug. *the* bug? [08:53] no [08:53] I got wasted [08:53] debfx is working on it [08:54] THE bug? [08:55] debfx: why is the natty sru for pkg-kde-tools invalid btw? [08:57] apachelogger: I'll just disable scour in the amarok package for natty [08:58] debfx: how does one do that? [08:59] override_dh_scour: # stop tampering with my svgs! [08:59] oh [08:59] ha! [08:59] indeed dh7 makes this easy ^^ [09:00] debfx: what do we do about oneiric? [09:00] I'd like to have it completely out of pkg-kde-tools there [09:00] I've removed scour already from pkg-kde-tools [09:00] opt-in per package using --with scour [09:01] debfx: great [09:01] debfx++ [09:01] * apachelogger loosk for some drug again hungoverness [09:08] my kubuntu is getting slower when I am running my laptop on battery power. Can anyone please help me enhancing my kubuntu's performance? I tried and asked on #kubuntu but did not find an answer [09:09] probably your graphics card is going into ultra powersave mode, so desktop effects become slower [09:10] isn't there a key-combo to just turn of effects? [09:10] apachelogger: hmm.... that might be possible, any idea how to fix it? [09:10] off [09:10] does anyone know if the utouch team has an irc chan? [09:10] that would be the simple way [09:11] valorie: shift alt f12 IIIRC [09:11] c2tarun: change your power profile to switch off desktop effects [09:11] so until you figure it out, c2tarun, just try that [09:11] debfx++ [09:12] apachelogger: considerable improvement :) thanks [09:12] c2tarun: you can configure powerdevil (power management) to do that automatically when on battery [09:13] c2tarun: click on the battery systray icon, then settings [09:13] KRF: I am doing that right now :) === apachelogger changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Merges: https://merges.ubuntu.com/main.html | TODO: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo === apachelogger changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Merging KDE 4.6.3 from Debian | Merges: https://merges.ubuntu.com/main.html | TODO: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo [10:33] I need more RAM, building amarok on a tmpfs causes too much swapping [10:42] debfx: lp:kubuntu-low-fat-settings :P [10:43] apachelogger: I think killall firefox is 1000% more efficient ;) [10:43] that is because you should be using w3m [10:47] [kubuntu-low-fat-settings] Harald Sitter * apachelogger@ubuntu.com-20110527094700-tx64pvyc8lqzrya7 * debian/ (control copyright) set lp project data [10:58] apachelogger: is there a way to tell kde to flush all icon/pixmap caches? [10:58] except manually deleting those cache files [10:59] no [10:59] because after updating amarok with the fixed svg it's still broken [10:59] silly amarok [11:32] good afternoon [11:33] apachelogger: Harald, I’ve just got write access to phonon repo. Thank you! I don’t let you down. :) [11:33] anyway I’ve commited my changes; will them be automatically deployed? [12:17] ryrych: cool, yeah, deployment is automatic [12:17] and almost instantly too ;) [12:20] ryrych: btw, there is #phonon ;) [12:50] DarkwingDuck: Sure. [12:50] DarkwingDuck: Also your away message messaging me when I ping you in the channel is really annoying. [12:59] Hurray, kdemultimedia-dev >= 4.5 in Debian means I can finally upload bangarang 2.0 and get it sync'd. [12:59] Yep. [12:59] Get merging folks. === rdieter is now known as rdieter_work [13:24] !info bangarang [13:24] bangarang (source: bangarang): Multimedia player with a lightweight interface for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0-0ubuntu1 (natty), package size 633 kB, installed size 2920 kB [13:24] ooh, I didnt know about this... [13:24] jussi: It'll be 2.0.1 even :) [13:25] and I hate my PC currently [13:25] Natty, + HP5320m + display port + lenovo screen == no love. [13:27] where are the config files for setting screens up and how do I kill them? [13:27] I plug in, it asks me to configure, I click yes, then everything goes black :( [13:27] jussi: I use arandr. [13:27] arandr? [13:27] !info arandr [13:27] arandr (source: arandr): Simple visual front end for XRandR 1.2. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.3-1 (natty), package size 43 kB, installed size 280 kB [13:28] * jussi installs [13:28] That doesn't answer your question (regarding config files), but then, I don't know its answer either :) [13:29] what the heck is eDP1? [13:30] I dont have 3 screens... :/ [13:30] * jussi is confused. [13:31] hrm, I disabled all except DP1, and got: [13:31] XRandR failed: [13:31] XRandR returned error code 1: xrandr: cannot find crtc for output DP1 [13:32] * ryanakca joins the confusion. [13:37] jussi: mind adding me to !ninjas ? [13:37] yofel: yes, you definately dont get onto that list :P :P :P [13:38] * yofel throws a blue gear after jussi [13:38] yofel: you have to bribe me first... :P [13:38] fix my PC :D [13:39] yofel: nah, Im not that mean [13:39] (its done already) [13:39] !ninjas > yofel [13:39] I didn't even try to use my DP here yet, no cable for it [13:39] yofel, please see my private message [13:39] and they're expensive :/ [13:40] thanks! :D [13:40] yofel: I have a choice of DP or VGA... I chose to get a DP cable [13:40] * ryanakca sighs while his browser hangs at "Connecting to launchpad.net" [13:41] ryanakca: hehe, what else did you explect [13:41] well, my thinkpad has a displayport, but my monitors have either HDMI/DVI/VGA, and all cables I find for that are ~30€ or above :( [13:41] * jussi sighs at 1024x768 on a Full HD 24" [13:41] ouch [13:42] yofel: in which country are you located? [13:42] germany [13:44] yofel: get one from deal extreme: http://www.dealextreme.com/p/displayport-dp-male-to-hdmi-female-adapter-cable-black-19cm-30610 [13:44] delivery is like 2$ [13:45] thanks, that looks reasonable :) [13:46] yofel: We in the office here use that site regularly - they are pretty good. [13:46] have to be careful with quality as they are china direct, but cables are generally pretty good. [13:59] btw, *who* is merging *what* ? (or where do we keep track of that?) [14:00] http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/screencasts/phonon-qml-video.mp4 qml \o/ [14:35] apachelogger: congratulations :) [15:05] JontheEchidna: qapt has passed new :) [15:08] :) [15:15] hey all \o [15:19] do we have a merging page? [15:30] alright, i'm taking up kdelibs if no one has started yet === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [15:52] since we don't seem to have one I would see if someone put his name on MOM [15:59] yeah [16:19] Would someone be so kind as to fireup {k,g}obby and connect to gobby.ubuntu.com please? (I'm trying to figure out why kobby isn't sending text, only reading). [16:21] ryanakca: yeah one sec :) [16:21] shadeslayer: Thanks :) [16:22] ryanakca: oh .. it just crashed [16:22] Which, kobby or gobby? [16:22] kobby [16:22] can't even start it :P [16:23] dpkg -l | grep libinfinity [16:23] Do you have -0.5 or -0.4 ? [16:23] 1.0~beta5-3 [16:23] oh [16:23] No, libinfinity :) [16:23] ryanakca: libinfinity-0.4-0 [16:24] Hmm. You wouldn't happen to also have gobby with you, would you? ;) [16:25] nope [16:25] ryanakca: should i install that too? [16:26] No, no need, I just realised that I could run gobby and kobby simultaneously for my testing. You can if you want though :) [16:26] hehe [16:27] lemme try something ^_^ [16:28] oh btw i have a couple of questions about debian/rules in kde4libs , anyone around? [16:30] * yofel wonders what he should merge [16:30] ryanakca: okay, i compiled kobby from git [16:30] yofel: help me with kde4libs :P [16:30] Well, at least kobby can connect to gobby.u.c; gobby hangs at 'Connecting to gobby.ubuntu.com...' [16:30] hahaha [16:30] ryanakca: yeah, i'm connected [16:31] shadeslayer: Alright, see the 'look-its-a-gobby-session' file? [16:31] shadeslayer: what's your question btw.? ^^ [16:31] yes [16:31] Do you see me appending anything to the bottom of it? (Beyond the ironic comment that Kobby works) [16:31] hm... I don't know scratch about CDBS -.- [16:31] yofel: we have a bunch of vars we export in debian/rules currently [16:31] i'm trying to figure out which ones we need and which ones we can remove [16:32] yofel: yeah, i've been spoiled by dh [16:32] ryanakca: are you adding something right now? [16:32] shadeslayer: I might (or might not be able to help) with the CDBS rules [16:32] Yes [16:32] ryanakca: nothing apart from the comment :P [16:32] me too, or rather dh7 was state of the art when I started to learn packaging [16:32] hehe [16:33] i'll show you guys a diff, one sec [16:33] Are you able to add anything? [16:33] * yofel needs to read the dhmk manual again [16:33] http://paste.ubuntu.com/613805/ [16:33] oh derp [16:33] that doesn [16:33] that won't help [16:34] that's the MOM diff? [16:34] http://paste.ubuntu.com/613806/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/613807 [16:34] yofel: no, thats just a diff of the control file [16:35] the first file is our old file, and the second pastebin is the new one + our old vars [16:36] i'm not entirely sure if we need lines 5, 6 and 7 [16:36] shadeslayer: DEB_DBG_PACKAGE_ALL can become an override for dh_strip, 'override_dh_strip:\n\tdh_strip --dbg-package=kdelibs5-dbg' methinks. [16:37] right, i've removed that [16:37] Similarly for DEB_DH_SHLIBDEPS_ALL [16:37] DEB_DH_MAKESHLIBS_ARGS_ALL too I think [16:37] ryanakca: what do i do about binary-install/kdelibs5-data [16:38] hm, that's CDBS syntax I think :/ [16:39] just a sec, [16:39] meh, dhmk not having the %: target is confusing [16:41] * yofel wonders why they couldn't have simpyfied that override_dh_auto_configure command... [16:41] *simplyfied [16:41] shadeslayer: http://ryanak.ca/~ryan/shadeslayer1 is what our override_dh_auto_install would be, methinks. [16:42] in fact, you could probably just drop the ifeq and the endif line. [16:43] Oh, and you'll want to include the lines for launchpad.png and the 'ln -s kde...' lines in that blurb I think [16:43] those seem to belong to dh_install [16:44] hmm [16:44] ryanakca: you can't drop the ifeq, otherwise the package FTBFS when arch-all aren't built [16:45] debfx: Ah, alright [16:45] debfx: Does dh_install create the subdirectories if they don't exist? [16:46] or maybe you could since you don't assume that debian/kdelibs5-data exists [16:46] ryanakca: which subdirectories? [16:47] right, i was going to put it under auto install, but just wasn't quite sure of it [16:47] debfx: install -D a b/c/d/e, isn't that like mkdir -p a/b/c/d && cp a a/b/c/d/e ? [16:47] debfx: could you explain a bit more as to why the ifenq is needed? [16:48] debfx: muon uploaded [16:48] shadeslayer: it isn't actually needed but it's cleaner since arch-all packages aren't always built [16:49] ryanakca: yes it is [16:49] debfx: sorry, s/subdirectories/parent directories/, my bad :) [16:50] shadeslayer: Yes I can (see your comment). [16:50] Anyone working on merges? [16:51] I'm guessing you still can't see the one I wrote below yours? [16:51] debfx: Would you do pkg-kde-tools? [16:51] JontheEchidna: great, now we can update the seeds [16:52] ScottK: can do [16:52] Thanks. [16:52] JontheEchidna: I guess we want muon, muon-installer and muon-notifier? [16:53] -updater, too [16:53] muon too? [16:53] or do you mean on the dvd? [16:53] notifier pulls in updater [16:54] yofel: yes, on the cd [16:54] right [16:54] why do we need muon on the cd? [16:54] muon-installer yes, but muon? [16:54] oh, I don't think we had decided on whether or not to put muon itself on the CD [16:54] afaik muon sc can't install arbitrary packages [16:55] ah true [16:55] I would highly recommend it for its ability to install all packages rather than just ones considered "apps" [16:55] yeah, nvm [16:55] the ubuntu sc has a System category where you can install all packages [16:57] bbiab [16:57] dog needs exercise and is really bugging me [17:00] debfx: ah [17:00] ryanakca: i can't see your text [17:01] * yofel goes merging kdetoys [17:01] shadeslayer: Alright, I'll ask infinote's upstream (who provided patches porting kobby/libqinfinity to libinfinity-0.5) about it. [17:01] ok :) [17:02] Thanks for the help :) [17:02] thanks to you too :) [17:04] ScottK, JontheEchidna: could one of you merge https://code.launchpad.net/~debfx/ubuntu-seeds/kubuntu.oneiric/+merge/62701 [17:06] Looking. [17:10] ScottK: if you have time after that, could you also look at my merge requests for choqok and avogadro? [17:11] debfx: Done. I also added kpackagekit onto the dvd so we really do swap muon and kpackagekit. [17:11] Thanks. [17:11] bug 788772 and bug 787458 [17:11] Launchpad bug 788772 in choqok (Ubuntu) "Please merge choqok 1.1-1 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/788772 [17:11] Launchpad bug 787458 in avogadro (Ubuntu) "Please merge avogadro 1.0.3-1 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/787458 [17:11] shadeslayer: Perhaps later. [17:11] oh sure [17:12] ScottK: in that case we need to disable the kpackagekit update checking [17:12] but do we really want to support 2 package managers? [17:12] debfx: Good point. [17:15] yofel: so in dh_strip :$(overridden_command) --dbg-package=kdelibs5-dbg -V -u-c0 [17:16] oh [17:16] why in dh_strip o.O? [17:16] yofel: i mean in override_dh_makeshlibs: do i add -V -u ? [17:16] bad copy paste xD [17:16] probably, if we added that [17:18] yofel: and i keep the extra var for libkdecore5? [17:18] (line 15) [17:18] I'm not sure how that works... [17:20] -DKDE_DISTRIBUTION_TEXT="Debian packages" \ << Do we really want to keep that? [17:21] don't we override that in pkg-kde-tools? [17:21] JontheEchidna: new debian/rules from upstream [17:21] JontheEchidna: include /usr/share/pkg-kde-tools/qt-kde-team/2/debian-qt-kde.mk << that would override that? [17:22] JontheEchidna: I think those cmake flags have been dropped from dhmk [17:22] the ones in ./datalib/kde4_flags? [17:22] Should probably wait until debfx gets done with his pkg-kde-tools merge .... [17:23] still seems to be in use as of 0.12.3: ./qt-kde-team/1/debian-qt-kde.mk:DEB_CMAKE_EXTRA_FLAGS += $(DEB_CMAKE_KDE4_FLAGS) $(DEB_CMAKE_CUSTOM_FLAGS) [17:26] Right, but 0.14 just got uploaded to Debian. [17:26] JontheEchidna: dhmk is in qt-kde-team/2 [17:26] debfx: quick question, do lines 67 and 68 of http://paste.ubuntu.com/613807/ subsitute lines 22-29 of http://paste.ubuntu.com/613806/ [17:26] more specifically the DEB_KDE43_LIBRARY_PACKAGES var [17:28] erm, why KDE43 ? maybe make that KDE4 if you're editing it already [17:29] it was like that when i opened it :P [17:29] yofel: something i was wondering too [17:29] I know, but we're not on 4.3 [17:29] shadeslayer: why don't you look at the pre-dhmk debian package and see if we even diverged from them [17:29] yofel: thats from our packaging xD [17:29] debfx: oh thanks! [17:30] I know :P, so it's a good chance to make it a bit more sane :P [17:34] ScottK: sorry Scott, should i disable that one? [17:34] DarkwingDuck: Yes. Please. [17:35] ScottK: done :) [17:35] Thanks. [17:36] i do like the screen detatched auto away scipt though [17:36] makes things nice [17:39] jussi: around? [17:39] DarkwingDuck: you pinged me? [17:40] Riddell: spelling is sabbatical [17:40] shadeslayer: no. :P [17:40] heh [17:40] !info libdlrestrictions-dev oneiric [17:40] 'oneiric' is not a valid distribution: hardy, hardy-backports, hardy-proposed, jaunty, jaunty-backports, jaunty-proposed, karmic, karmic-backports, karmic-proposed, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, lucid, lucid-backports, lucid-proposed, maverick, maverick-backports, maverick-proposed, medibuntu, natty, natty-backports, natty-proposed, partner, stable, testing, unstable [17:40] jussi: ^^ please fix [17:40] DarkwingDuck: Autoaway is great. PM'ing me to tell me you're away, not so much. [17:40] oh dammit, yeah, ok [17:41] shadeslayer: hows myblink ppa going? [17:41] not so good right now ... [17:41] :( [17:41] jussi: i'll get it done, just not right now [17:42] maco: you know when I type something into google and it corrects it, is that really you? :) [17:42] Riddell: actually in this case i double-checked with google. i knew you were wrong, just wasn't sure what was right [17:43] oh ... hmm [17:43] debfx: any ETA on the pkg-kde-tools merge? [17:43] seems i need libdlrestrictions-dev which is in pkg-kde-tools xD [17:49] shadeslayer: uploaded, though no promises that it actually works [17:53] hahahaha [17:54] hm, how should we do the merges: file merge bugs or just put the merge into bzr as we didn't upload 4.6.3 to oneiric yet? [17:55] Probably the latter. [17:55] I think either way works though. [17:56] FYI, oxygen-icons should not be updated to 4.6.3. [17:56] well, latter is less work :P [17:56] ScottK: I know, we have 4.6.3really4.6.2 in the PPA [17:56] icon mess :/ [17:56] We won't put that in the archive. [17:59] I'll merge that and remove the 4.6.3 changelog in the process then [17:59] evening [18:00] hey bambee [18:00] merge time ;) [18:00] yo! [18:00] ;) [18:04] Why does Kubuntu Natty think my netbook's battery is missing -_- [18:04] lucidfox: missing or empty? [18:05] it says missing [18:05] when it's clearly plugged and providing power :) [18:05] what does 'upower --dump' say? (pastebin) [18:06] yofel: there is no todo list for that ? (in order to avoid duplicate work) [18:06] bambee: put your name on MOM [18:06] ohh :) [18:06] (the merges link in /topic) [18:06] there's an invisible text field on the page for every package [18:07] okay thanks for the tip ;) [18:07] upower was not installed [18:07] * lucidfox installs [18:08] phonon-backend-* and networkmanagement need to be merged as well [18:08] do we need solid to depend on udev ? .. : +Depends: ${shlibs:Depends}, ${misc:Depends}, udev [linux-any], hal [!linux-any] [18:09] If we want it to actually do something then I think we do [18:09] \o btw [18:09] depends, the battery applet should depend on upower from what we just discussed [18:10] but I think solid depending on udev sounds right [18:10] udisks should be somewhere too [18:10] udisks is a recommend [18:10] upower too, but if it's missing and the applet doesn't do a thing that's not really a recommends... [18:11] ScottK: pkg-kde-tools is in binary new [18:11] Cool. I'll have a look. [18:11] hm, kdebase-workspace-bin depends on upower... [18:12] lucidfox: upower really wasn't installed? [18:13] anyway, dinner time, brb [18:13] it works now after manually installing upower and rebooting [18:13] shows battery charge % [18:14] but yes, for some reason it didn't get installed when I ran the 11.04 clean CD install [18:14] kdebase-workspace-bin is installed? [18:15] hm, kubuntu-netbook doesn't depend on kdebase-workspace-bin [18:15] debfx: Accepted. Thanks. [18:16] sikon@maia-laptop:~$ dpkg -s kdebase-workspace-bin|grep Status [18:16] Status: install ok installed [18:16] sikon@maia-laptop:~$ dpkg -s kdebase-workspace-bin|grep upower [18:16] [nothing] [18:16] kubuntu-netbook is just a transitional package to pull in kubuntu-desktop these days anyway. [18:17] lucidfox: what version? [18:17] ...waitaminute [18:17] It's runtime, not workspace. [18:17] I'm running maverick [18:17] silly me :) [18:17] That would explain it. [18:17] ah, well, fixed in natty ^^ [18:17] note to self, upgrade ASAP [18:17] In maverick you want hal. [18:18] well, it did work with upower [18:18] maverick with 4.6? [18:18] Ah. [18:18] maverick with 4.5, installed upower manually [18:18] Yes, that would probably work it it's 4.6 from the PPA. [18:18] It's just coincidental then. 4.5 doesn't support upower. [18:18] Hal finally woke up or something. [18:18] the reboot fixed it then I guess ^^ [18:19] ScottK: I suppose you can't promote binary packages to main? [18:19] I just need to merge debian rules with our rules and upload the package into oneiric archives ? [18:19] I'll upgrade tomorrow... time to sleep [18:19] * bambee is a bit confused [18:19] debfx: I can override stuff in New, but not after it's in the archive. [18:19] debfx: What needs doing? [18:19] bambee: no, more merging in terms of install files, changelogs ... [18:20] everything in debian/ :P [18:20] when I say "debian rules" I mean everything in the debian directory of course :) [18:21] ScottK: akonadi-backend-mysql, muon-installer and qapt-deb-installer [18:21] which is confusing with debian/rules o_O [18:21] well, with quilt we only need to merge debian/ right [18:21] bambee: i thought you meant just debian/rules [18:21] debfx: I'll look into it. [18:21] no :) [18:22] dinner time, brb [18:23] ScottK: and probably: libphononexperimental-dev, phonon-backend-null [18:24] * shadeslayer wonders if his merges will ever get sponsored [18:29] ScottK: you're a server guy right? [18:29] Sure. [18:30] ScottK: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mini-dinstall/+bug/3417 there are two ways to fix this. one is to add Depends: debian-keyring, the other is to make DebianSigVerifier.py have only ubuntu-archive-keyring, not debian-keyring (currently has both) [18:30] Ubuntu bug 3417 in mini-dinstall (Ubuntu) "Lack of Ubuntufication (wrong or missing keyrings)" [Medium,New] [18:30] ScottK: which would be preferable for servers? [18:32] maco: I think https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mini-dinstall/+bug/3417/comments/8 is the relevant point. The ubuntu-keyring doesn't provide the same thing debian-keyring provides. [18:32] Ubuntu bug 3417 in mini-dinstall (Ubuntu) "Lack of Ubuntufication (wrong or missing keyrings)" [Medium,New] [18:32] ScottK: ok, so i'll add the dependency then [18:33] It might do to find someone that uses it and double check. [18:33] IIRC NCommander knows a bit about such things. [18:33] huh. ubuntu-keyring is just a suggests on there despite all the .gpg references in there having been chnged to refer to it [18:33] k i'll check with him [18:37] ScottK: just talked to kirkland and re-read through that patch. it looks like a merge last year dropped *part* of the old patch [18:37] Ah. [18:37] OK. [18:38] Probably #ubuntu-server's a better channel for this. [18:38] yeah [18:38] but you were right here! :P [18:41] * yofel wonders what to put on MOM if he doesn't file a merge bug, 'in kubuntu bzr' ? [18:45]