[00:00] Linkmaster: I love my openSUSE. Even under KDE this latest version outperforms the XFCE based Xubuntu, by a wide margin. [00:00] Linkmaster: The YaST tool is an amazing, wonderful, and mildly erotic thing. [00:02] Abhish: its probably because yours is good software. The software our school forces us to use is basically Windows in Kiosk mode :P you can see why my first experience was bad at best [00:03] Would anyone happen to of a plugin or program that can tie into dolphin allowing me to right click an iso and mount it? dvd images and whatnot? [00:04] Every program I've seen is gtk based as opposed to qt [00:04] my vm has 2GB of memory thats more than enough, actually i installed ubuntu, then added the kde desktop to it [00:04] KerrMD: someone could probably script it..if you know what your doing, you can make it a shellscript. perhaps [00:05] Linkmaster: I am rubbish at scripting.. a complete and utter noob. [00:05] and dijonyummy thats why. Your using KDE libs and GTK+ libs on the same machine, no wonder its slow [00:05] Abhish: Have you tried Gnome3 on OpenSUSE? [00:05] Logan_: No, not interested really. [00:05] KerrMD: same here :P I know[knew] the command line for it though, but it didn't work too well [00:06] Logan_: The feedback I have heard though is that it is well implemented. Gnome3 is still a bit buggy though, as would be expected. [00:07] Abhish: I'm considering downloading Fedora or OpenSUSE to try it. [00:07] Gnome3 is what..three weeks old? [00:08] Logan_: Both are nice. Fedora is much better polished than Kubuntu was when I was using it not long ago. openSUSE is king of KDE though. [00:10] Lol... vlc had what I wanted all along. I did not notice the "menu" icon at the bottom... now to get my sound to work properly within vlc [00:10] Abhish: thats arguable, and opinion. I like Kubuntu, since its specifically for KDE. I haven't seen something as well integrated as Kubuntu [00:11] be back a bit later. Thanks for the assistance Linkmaster [00:14] Linkmaster: Kubuntu improved when they moved to 4.5 or 4.6 I don't remember which. But before that I found it to be slow, and painfully unstable. [00:15] Oh, agreed. Most users state that 3.* was bad in general, though that was KDE, rather then Kubuntu [00:16] Linkmaster: True, later versions of KDE benefitted everyone. But I did find it in Kubuntu to be significantly more painful than Fedora 14 or openSUSE 11.3 implementations. [00:17] It could be userpreference [00:18] There are some things that are annoying, and some that are amazing. its a world of choice, Linux is. I respect your choice of openSUSE, I'm glad that your happy with it. It may/may not work for me, I don't know. I know that I don't like Gnome openSUSE or Fedora, or Mint, or really anything gnome actually [00:22] coe [00:27] Linkmaster: KDE is prettier, and has a much more powerful application environment. [00:28] Yep, which is why I said "no, never, not happening" to gnome [00:37] hey y'all, now about taking this discussion to #kubuntu-offtopic? [00:37] #kubuntu-offtopic [00:38] too much chat and the support questions get lost [01:17] hi [01:37] yo [01:38] how do i get sound going in kubuntu, i have a xtreame gamer x-fi creative card [01:39] hello [01:43] * wn1zid will race his gnome against any kde machine [01:43] lol [01:45] which version of gnome do u use, wn1zid? [01:46] i havnt tried 3 yet, still 2 buggy [01:47] and personally, i think (like alot of others) that they screwed up by instituting unity. [01:56] is the Unity interface that bad? [01:56] * hakamy haven't tried it yet [01:57] hakamy- 2 many distros that sent out on doing it, dropped it not long after. [02:17] ok, pulse just isn't quite right here... === Keshl_ is now known as Keshl [02:21] Is there an equivalent in kde for Places->Connect To Server in gnome? [02:23] JuJuBee: open up Dolphin, type the server name and path in the address bar [02:23] JuJuBee: you can also try the KDE launcher -> Computer -> Network [02:25] I need a "reset pulse configuration" howto, my google skilz are failing me. I don't want to start asking questions till I'm in a known state [02:25] anyone know one? (it's not in the !pulse wiki) [02:31] Aniar: how about deleting .pulseaudio, whereever that might be? [02:32] valorie: just in my home? (and it's apparently ".pulse/") [02:33] valorie: or is that as much of a guess as I've been making this afternoon? :) [02:34] yes, in your home [02:34] I've done it once, and it fixed whatever problem I was having [02:36] http://linuxgrandma.blogspot.com/2010/04/lucid-beta-bugs-and-alsamixer.html [02:36] oh, it was alsamixer, sorry [02:38] valorie: yeah, alsa actually works (vmware plays sound)... [02:38] valorie: well, now KDE plays sound. let's see if multiple clients are fixed... [02:40] kewl! [02:40] valorie: well, I'm back to my 10.10 issue: only one client can connect, others just hang. So, once firefox plays a sound, pidgin can't give me "new IM" notifications, amarok can't play, etc. [02:41] I had that back in the day [02:42] pulseaudio fixed it [02:42] lol. pulseaudio *caused* it here [02:42] !alis [02:42] alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* [02:42] well, perhaps you should remove it then [02:42] hmmm, not #pulseaudio [02:42] valorie: was considering it, but since it's default in 11.04+, it'll likely remain hard to keep it that way [02:43] valorie: yeah, didn't see one, and most of the forums talk specifically about Gnome/Ubuntu fixes/changes [02:43] there is #pulsemedia [02:43] not sure that's right [02:44] the #phonon team might be able to help [02:50] valorie: /join #phonon [02:50] bah [02:50] I can't type [02:50] Aniar: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [02:51] ok [02:51] i [02:51] won't do that, or make this joke again. [02:52] * valorie is already in phonon anyway [02:52] :-) === greyboy is now known as newbiathon [02:58] can someone help me get sound and update my video card drivers, im runnin 64 bit [03:00] is there any way to install VirtualBox 3.2 on (k)ubuntu 11.04? [03:03] can someone help with a sound driver issue [03:03] oops sorry didn't see the other window [03:25] yo === newbiathon is now known as helpmeout [03:25] anyone awake? [03:27] can someone help with a sound driver issue? [03:27] i have a soundd blaster xtreame gamer chip [03:27] on 64 bit platform [03:29] anyone here? [03:31] I'm here, but you haven't described the problem [03:31] so I have no clue if I can offer you help or not [03:31] !ask [03:32] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [03:34] oh i need help getting sound drivers [03:34] i have a creative sound blaster xtreme gamer card [03:35] also need to get ati radeon h.d. 5850 drivers [03:35] would that be in the package kit? [03:42] Newbiathon: have you run jockey-kde? [03:42] or you can find it in the systemsettings [03:45] where do i find the sys settings lol [03:45] nm found it [03:57] why is it that my windows is still on here partitioned but it doesn't ask me at bootup which os to choose? [04:58] How can I set my clock to use a 24hr instead of 12hr time? [04:59] when you right-click on the widget, I think there is a settings choice [04:59] yes, with the little wrench icon [05:00] This is the one on the task bar [05:06] right, that's what I was talking about [05:06] widgets can live on the taskbar or desktop [05:06] taskbar is just another widget [05:07] Anyone point me at simple instructions for installing an app from a source tar.gz? [05:08] yo i messed up my kubuntu theme somehow [05:08] corigo: you should avoid that if at all possible [05:08] any way to go back [05:08] i don't want gnome ui [05:08] Not [05:08] sure, choose a different theme [05:08] corigo: why? [05:08] i was downloading so much at once i don't know what messed it up [05:09] was getting themes and programs and all [05:10] anyone [05:10] ? [05:11] help [05:11] i don't want to reinstall [05:12] !dpkg [05:12] dpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. [05:12] hmmm, no info [05:13] how come nobody helps me [05:13] lol [05:13] is it the nickname [05:13] I'm looking something up for you [05:13] why are you complaining? [05:14] oh thnx [05:14] no im just ready to rip my hair out [05:14] in a console, run [05:14] dpkg --configure -a [05:15] that should fix any borked packages [05:15] it might take awhile [05:16] corigo: I know how to build from a tarball, but I'm reluctant to tell you [05:16] unless you explain why you can't install the usual way [05:20] what does the -a mean? [05:20] all [05:21] you can use --all instead if you like [05:21] type it in a terminal shell? [05:22] yes [05:22] or Konsole, or yakuake [05:22] whatever you use [05:22] New version only available in source tar ball [05:22] I see [05:22] with a / in front [05:23] ? [05:23] no one has packaged it yet? [05:23] yep [05:23] Helpmeout2: you'll have to do sudo in front of it [05:23] New Miro 4.01 [05:23] it's a command [05:23] no / [05:24] corigo: have you thought of using Project Neon instead? [05:24] requires superuser [05:24] so sudo? [05:24] yes [05:24] sorry im new [05:25] corigo: have you seen http://www.getmiro.com/download/for-ubuntu/ [05:25] I've already got Amarok, does it stream video from my windows machine? [05:25] Helpmeout2: we all start somewhere! [05:25] corigo: Amarok is a music player [05:25] you can install a video applet, which will play video podcasts [05:25] i was in the process of installing kubuntu restricted extras--the download has completed but its stuck at 67% of the installing part--any ideas on how to fix or stop this [05:26] yikes, preecher [05:26] that sucks [05:26] you'll need to do what Helpmeout2 is doing [05:26] dpkg --configure -a [05:26] i know--idiot me installed linuxmint knowing i wouldnt like it and now im having to install kubu again [05:27] ok so "sudo dpkg --configure -a" [05:27] but I would wait for awhile [05:27] just like that? [05:27] yes, without the quotes [05:27] ah kdesudo [05:27] no [05:27] kdesudo is for running apps [05:27] that didn't do anything [05:27] yes, it is doing something [05:27] just wait [05:28] ah man i typed it like 5 times lol [05:28] why type? [05:28] copy/paste is so much better [05:28] it just tabs down [05:28] this is on a diff. comp [05:28] ah [05:28] Thanks Valorie... [05:28] much better [05:28] is that what you want? [05:28] valerie ive been stuck at 67% for last our and 10 minutes so im gonna go ahead and follow with that command u gave [05:28] oh, good [05:29] ah [05:29] so how long do i wait? [05:29] i have 4 gigs of ram [05:29] so you get right back to the prompt? [05:30] if you are back to the prompt, it's done [05:30] maybe there was only one stuffed package [05:31] yeah im back [05:31] it just tabbed down a line [05:31] didn't do anything [05:32] I'm out of ideas then, sorry [05:33] dpkg is a miracle worker [05:33] np ill just reinstall the damn thing [05:33] perhaps you got a crappy theme with a bug [05:33] yeah [05:33] prob. [05:33] i got a little carried away [05:33] I love Oxygen, so I stick with it [05:33] now i remember why i quit using ubuntu [05:34] linux is so sensative [05:34] in general, the standard Kubuntu is exactly what I like [05:34] yeah [05:34] i liked the default [05:34] actually, I find it very robust [05:34] was just monkeying around [05:34] while waiting for downloads [05:34] son of ..... [05:34] i had all the apps i wanted [05:35] guess they aren't going anywhere [05:36] you know, you could do: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [05:36] that will remove unneeded cruft [05:36] valerie--i did the command---now when i open kpackage its saying i have the restricted extras [05:36] super! [05:36] that's dpkg for ya [05:36] awesome [05:37] oh i thought it was like a delete--didnt know it finished the job---many thanks [05:39] no, it forces a finish [05:39] again thx-) [05:41] you are most welcome [05:43] well here we go again [05:45] can you change the name of the work station [05:45] once installed? [05:45] also i never could figure out my sound issue [05:46] your sound issue? [05:46] I don't know about the name [05:46] probably, but I don't know how [05:46] yah i have a x-fi xtreme gamer card [05:47] and did you use jockey-kde? [05:48] or systemsettings? [05:48] and also when i log in it doesn't ask if i want to log to my window partition [05:48] how do i get back to my win7 part [05:48] you might need to run grub repair [05:48] !grub2 [05:48] GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10) [05:48] k [05:48] use the second link for that [05:49] command might even be grub-repair [05:50] i don't mean to hurt kubuntu's feelings and i think it looks and has a way better feel [05:50] but my exp. with gnome were easier [05:50] so far [05:50] ok [05:50] for $x reason [05:51] I like gnome users [05:51] I just don't like *gnome* [05:51] but to each hir own [05:51] is there a way other than using wine to use my ipod touch on kubuntu [05:51] ive another question since im lurking about--is it ok to install packages from terminal as opposed to the kpackage--is it just as good is what i mean--reason im asking is the downloads seem to fly [05:52] yeah once i learn a bit more i won't mind it [05:52] you might try gtkpod [05:52] yes, I usually use the console [05:52] k [05:52] much faster, and fewer problems [05:52] so can i change the pc name in the system? [05:53] Helpmeout2: probably, but I don't know how [05:55] help ! why my picasa can't run [05:55] ? [05:56] rekonq is god aweful lol [05:57] hi, sry for the newbie question...how do i update my alsa driver using kpackage kit? [05:58] update it [05:58] when i do cat /asound/version it says version 1.0.23, but when i look at kpackage kit, it says i have 1.0.24 installed [05:58] you run alsadriver in a console [05:58] oh [05:59] that's odd [05:59] hmm...i just type alsadriver in konsole? the command doesn't work [05:59] oops, sorry [05:59] I was thinking of alsamixer [06:00] yeah, having a hard time with nvidia graphic card [06:00] i found the muon is better than kpackage [06:00] so in kpgk, you can reinstall [06:00] indeed, I use muon almost exclusively -- except for the console [06:00] nodragon: thx, will check out muon [06:01] lol, nvr heard of it before... [06:01] it's new [06:01] kpackagekit has been improving, however [06:01] so eventually they will have to fight it out, I guess [06:02] let me try reinstalling on kpackage first, if it still doesn't work, then i'll switch to muon [06:02] thx guys! [06:02] my kpackage is always can`t run so i changed moun [06:11] ok in ubuntu it is gksu gedit /etc/hostname [06:11] to change it [06:11] so what what it be in kubuntu [06:13] it would be kdesudo [06:13] rather than gksu [06:13] you can use gedit, kate, vim, whatever you like [06:13] kate is my favorite [06:16] won't let me save changes [06:17] you started it with kdesudo? [06:17] i went to the file manually [06:17] ui style [06:17] what would console cmd be [06:17] you can go there from Kate [06:18] it is in root/etc/hostname [06:18] if you start it from kdesudo [06:18] how do i do that [06:18] kdesudo kate [06:18] open file [06:18] go and open it [06:19] and remember to Save As when you save it [06:21] fudge [06:21] lol [06:22] now when i try to kdesudo kate it says cannot connect to x server :0 [06:22] bc i need to change the hosts file to [06:22] i changed hostname [06:22] durp dee durp [06:23] now what [06:24] ever since upgrading to 11.04 I can't shutdown or restart, i can standby though [06:24] Is there a way I can see what is going on? [06:24] Or maybe manually restart with the CLI [06:25] maaaannnn [06:25] this sucks [06:26] Hmm, I also can't update with kpackagekit, it keeps waiting for a lock of somesort, after I enter my pass [06:26] Almost like something is on a separate screen, yet Nvidia settings only show the one screen [06:27] elijah: are you familiar with CLI ? [06:27] Yet my left and top screen have infinite space it seems past the screen edge, so there is space there.... [06:27] Tm_T: yes [06:27] good morning [06:28] I think the issue is that there are dialogues on the left void of the screen [06:28] elijah: ok, "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" to run normal update for installed packages [06:28] can i foncigure kate to open a new instance if i open another file from dolphin? [06:28] elijah: "sudo shutdown -h now" to shutdown the system [06:29] guys pleeeease help [06:29] i changed my /etc/hostname file [06:30] and want to change it back to the original computer name [06:30] bc now it is broken [06:30] Tm_T: hmm, i ran that and it finished with "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. " [06:31] Helpmeout2: Do you mean you changed the filename or just the contents of it? [06:31] brb, gonna do the shutdown command Tm_T [06:31] elijah: so do it (: [06:32] gosh, must be late, so obvious :_ [06:33] Helpmeout2: do you have the full desktop running in front of me? [06:34] front of you obviously ... [06:34] * Tm_T needs his morning coffee [06:34] lol [06:39] sorry yeah i changed the actual hostname in the file [06:39] sorry i was reading [06:39] then i couldn't access the hosts file to change it there [06:40] i just knew it would break [06:40] what? [06:40] you changed it, but you couldn't change it? [06:40] that makes no sense [06:40] no [06:40] hostname and hosts are two seperate files [06:41] describe what you did [06:41] look in your etc folder [06:41] i changed the hostname in the /etc/hostname file with kdesudo kate [06:41] then navigated to etc/hostname [06:41] changed the name inside the file [06:42] went back to terminal [06:42] typed in kdesudo kate and no dice [06:42] was kate still running? [06:42] can't remember [06:42] you can't do two sudo commands at the same time [06:42] i just rebooted [06:42] ah that might be it [06:44] ok [06:44] i just edited the hosts file [06:46] wonder if that will fix it [06:46] is anything else tied to the hostname [06:47] ok weird [06:47] and now there are 2 files with recycle symbols on them named hostnam~ and hosts~ next to the txt ones [06:48] Tm_T: thanks for your advice! [06:48] np (: [06:48] all is working now, I did have to manually set resolution in nvidia settings to get my ghost screen to turn off [06:49] but other than that, very helpful! [06:49] Helpmeout2: that's why I said to Save As [06:49] ok it wouldn't let me update lol [06:49] so you would have a backup file [06:49] would be faster to reinstall at this rate [06:49] lesson learned [06:51] so basically linux is like a heiarchy [06:51] stemming down from / [06:51] then /home [06:51] or /user [06:52] yes [06:52] very organized [06:52] i like it that way [06:53] easier to understan really [06:53] indeed [06:53] !filesystem [06:53] An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview see also: man hier [06:54] ok and cd .. takes you back a folder [06:54] how do you go forward a folder [06:54] ls? [06:54] ls lists the files and folders [06:55] you can cd as far up or down as you want [06:55] thnx for that link btw very helpful [06:55] cd=change dir [06:56] gotcha [06:56] ubottu is endlessly useful [06:56] valorie: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [06:56] but not intelligent [06:56]