[00:48] belak: there is a community built 64bit version available. [01:01] belak: have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GetLubuntu === Vinylourson is now known as Vinylourson_ === Vinylourson_ is now known as Vinylourson [04:27] I just have a single question. Does Lubuntu support 64 bit architectures or is it only 32 bit? I was confused that there was only one .iso file to download off the site. [04:28] bU1337Pr00f: the 64bit version (for now) isn't officially part of Lubuntu (a community port, of a community port..)... at last i think thats how it is. [04:29] bU1337Pr00f: There is a community edition at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GetLubuntu [04:30] So there won't be official support for 64 bit until the release of 11.10? [04:31] No modern processors even support 64bit yet, so why would you even care unless you were running a supercomputer? :P [04:31] (which I'm assuming you're not) [04:32] bU1337Pr00f: far as i know, that is correct, but Unit193 would know better than i [04:32] poltak: then what is ia64 and x86_64? [04:33] ia64 is itanium thingy... not really a common processor [04:33] True, but x86_64 if very common. [04:33] x86_64 is for further advanced machines (not commercial) [04:40] well thanks for the answer. I'll leave a spot in my CD wallet for when Oneiric comes out. [04:41] np [04:41] poltak_: That is totally wrong. 64bit supported processors VERY common... [04:41] +are [04:42] Unit193: Okay Tron :P [04:44] * jgould has two 64 bit processors [04:45] they are x86_64's [04:46] Ergh, you guys are imbeciles. Going back to my work. [04:46] I run a dual-core 64bit, that's why I asked. [04:46] bioterror Howdy hoho! [04:48] bU1337Pr00f: Which OS? [04:48] Right now Ubuntu Natty. [04:48] bU1337Pr00f: 32 or 64? [04:48] 64 [04:48] :) [04:49] * canthus13 runs 32 on most of his machines, just for compatibility's sake, but runs Debian 64 on his servers with 64 bit processors. [04:49] I was thinking of shit canning it and switching to Gentoo, but it takes too long. [04:50] I was running Gentoo on my server. Old beat up Celeron 466. Takes 9 hours to complie the kernel... [04:54] Heh. That's why I stick with Debian for my servers.. precompiled, and works fine. I was running it quite nicely on a 500mhz P3 with 128mb ram.. until I 'upgraded' the CPU and killed it, anyway... :/ [04:57] That's why I like Gentoo. I can control just about everything. My next project is LFS. [04:58] I've worked on and off with an LFS install in a VM for a while.... It's tedious. [04:58] It's way more annoying than a stage one install. [04:58] Yeah... it's mento to be [04:58] It's like making your own legos, then building a house with them. [04:59] I build houses too. ^_^ Don't use Legos though. Well logging off chan. Thanks for the info guys. [05:03] Ergh, you guys are imbeciles. Going back to my work. # This is disrespectful. Please read and follow the Ubuntu Code of Conduct. Channel guidelines are expected to be followed, see /topic [05:07] jmarsden: ignored [05:07] phillw: Around? [05:09] jmarsden, may I help? [05:11] ;up [05:27] why this uses nick ban :D [05:28] \o/ [05:30] ;lurk [05:30] ;part [05:30] Error. The syntax for that command is: part [05:30] ;part #lubuntu [05:30] Heh [05:38] ;up [05:40] ;lurk [09:36] silverarrow, did you order aeropress? :) [09:54] no [09:54] not yet [09:55] ...one minute... [09:56] ordered [09:56] :-) [09:57] in 4 or 5 days I might have it [10:00] http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Aerobie-Aeropress-Coffee-Maker-EXTRA-350-Filters-/180583115335?pt=UK_Home_Garden_Food_SM&hash=item2a0b97aa47#ht_1565wt_982 [10:00] this one [10:00] are there serveral versions? [10:05] I like coffee gadgets [10:05] especially if the work [10:13] i tried to order this one before, but the seller turned out not to allow bidders outside UK [10:34] :) [10:34] I've enjoyed my ;) [10:34] mine even [10:40] thanks for thip, I look forward to getting it [11:11] Sup folks [11:22] g'day === Vinylourson is now known as Vinylourson_ === Vinylourson_ is now known as Vinylourson [12:41] How can you set autostarted applications in lubuntu natty? [12:44] easily [12:44] :) [12:45] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ [13:24] bioterror, I tried that, but the item (for pidgin) is not chown in the list [13:25] bioterror, I could not find the documentation via lubuntu.net, btw. [13:26] bioterror, if it was easy, there would not be faq ;) [13:29] ^^^shown [13:32] you dont have pidgin.desktop in /usr/share/applications/ ? [13:57] bioterror, yes I have an I copied it to ~/.config/autostart [14:31] bioterror, xchat.desktop does affect the list, when I copied it. [14:39] hi ! [14:40] i need the lubuntu alternate cd,i just cant find it [14:52] I guess he found it =) [15:06] plop [15:06] Is there a place to find an iso for lubuntu 10.04 ? not a torrent please ! [15:07] How amount of memory does lubuntu eat by default ? [15:07] mimilus_: yes the link in the topic has all the methods of getting lubuntu [15:09] * mimilus_ is opening eyes [15:09] mimilus_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GetLubuntu [15:09] ah ok, thank's [15:10] the iso are live cd like standart ubuntu CDs ? [15:10] 128Mb is about the minimum for lubuntu [15:10] yes [15:10] ok thank's [15:11] just bear in mind the 'check cd' does not work on 10.04 (Save you thinking it was a corrupt download / burn) [15:12] ok thank's , at the end of the install, just before reboot ? [15:13] sorry? [15:13] check cd does not work, in the menu after boot ? [15:14] * mimilus_ 's trying to connect synapses [15:15] yes, you need to manually verify it. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/10.04 [15:15] so I'll see it , that's it ? [15:15] ok thank's [15:53] Can someone add pidgin to autostarted applications? [15:54] jarnos: you can on your install ;) [15:54] stlsaint, like how? [15:55] jarnos: Is that what you want to do? There is a sweet wiki page telling you how: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ [15:57] Unit193, for some reason it does not work for pidgin.desktop in Natty. [15:59] jarnos: You're talking about program launch on login? [16:00] Unit193, I can't see pidgin in Desktop Session Settings dialog even if I copy pidgin.desktop to ~/.config/autostart [16:13] Unit193, it is strange, since I can add xchat to autostarted in similar way, actually it shows enabled in the dialog, if I copy the respective file. [16:16] Even if not shown in the dialog, pidgin gets autostarted in login. [16:16] jarnos: That does seem a little odd... [18:22] hi....what are the system requirements for Lubuntu...??? [18:43] home-alone: with 10.04 at least, basically any computer with 128MB of RAM [18:44] eg, you could use a 300 mhz CPU if you had to [18:44] a video card that can do 1024x768 would be safe [18:44] hello [18:44] keyboard + mouse, stuff like a trackball should work too [18:44] home-alone: oh, at least 3GB of HDD space or so [18:44] someone can help me?how can i install skype on lubuntu 11.04? [18:45] faaar, I know that if you install the ubuntu software center you can install it from the "canonical partners" [18:45] let me see if there's a direct way [18:46] faaar: can you try running: sudo software-properties-gtk [18:46] i ll try [18:46] if it works, go to the "other software" tab [18:47] and enable the partner repository (not the one with source code) [18:47] yes [18:47] now what? [18:47] if that works, open up synpatic package manager [18:47] hit "reload" or whatever in the top left [18:47] and search for skype [18:47] select it [18:47] hit install [18:48] it should then install [18:48] mikedep334: You really should use gksudo with GUI apps! [18:48] Unit193: ahh, thanks [18:50] it works,thanks mikedep334 [18:50] faaar: glad to be of help! [18:50] run a test call though [18:51] does Lubuntu uses only LXDE as DE...??? [18:51] home-alone: you can add other desktop environments if you want [18:51] I'm almost definite you chose between them at the login prompt [18:51] it's part of LXDM [18:51] LXDE Display Manager [18:52] eg, you can install the "ubuntu-desktop" package to get gnome [18:52] but then it will nomore Lubuntu...??? [18:52] Don't forget about the openbox [18:52] "L"in lubuntu is LXDE [18:52] then went prompted, chose to stick with lxdm as the display manager [18:53] home-alone: Lubuntu uses LXDE, Ubuntu uses gnome. Whichever one you start out with doesn't matter too much. [18:54] AFAIK, if you're switching between GNOME & LXDE, the only real difference between Ubuntu & Lubuntu is the artwork on bootup & the display manager [18:54] just keep in mind that installing Ubuntu-Desktop will install ALL the standard GNOME Ubuntu packages [18:54] it will take up a lot of space [18:55] and GNOME apps will use up more memory than LXDE (or regular GTK) apps in general [18:55] I will go with default Lubuntu . I have a fairly old pc its PII with 256 ram and 20 gb HD [18:56] Ubuntu went Unity, so not so much gnome ;) [18:57] home-alone: Ubuntu 10.04 should run great on there [18:57] no ubuntu 10.04 is pretty slow on it [18:57] Ubuntu 11.04 used up like 256MB for me out-of-box, but I think there may have been something wrong or a hardware-specific memory usage issue. [18:58] Ubuntu 11.04 should defniitely run on it though [18:58] mikedep334: s/Ubuntu/Luubuntu ? [18:58] home-alone: do not expect 11.04 to be significantly faster than 10.04 though [18:58] Unit193: my bad [18:58] Lubuntu [18:59] *Lubuntu 11.04 used up like 200-250 MB of RAM for me out-of-box for some reason, but I think there may have been something wrong... [18:59] home-alone: you might want to try the 'midori' web browser if web browsing goes slow [18:59] also, try not run too many apps at once (but that's generic advice) [19:00] also, here's the latest version of midori: https://launchpad.net/~midori/+archive/ppa [19:00] let me know if you need help installing it from the PPA [19:00] I have heard good things about arora too (Midori is a great browser, if a little buggy) [19:00] Unit193: haven't tried it [19:01] I know many people are using epiphany too, it's lightweight now that it uses webkit [19:02] Unit193: Arora uses QT though, QT would take up some extra memory on his system [19:04] mikedep334: Yeah... That is the downside. I personally use midori [19:06] Unit193: yup [19:07] I mainly know about this stuff for when I am helping people with old systems [19:07] I use firefox or chome myself [19:07] *chrome [19:08] Chrome? Not Chromium? [19:11] hello guys [19:12] anyone know a good app to convert files to mp4 ?? [19:16] kosaidpo: assuming you mean apple mp4 files, then handbrake should do a good job [19:16] Unit193: I use Chrome. I am also on Windows most of the time (ie, now) [19:17] mikedep334: thanks ill try it now ,btw i mean an application by app : D [19:17] kosaidpo: np, every body knows application = app [19:18] kosaidpo: what (L)ubuntu release are you on? [19:18] here's the PPA for Lucid and older [19:18] https://launchpad.net/~handbrake-ubuntu/+archive/ppa [19:18] mikedep334: 11.04 [19:19] kosaidpo: ahh, good [19:19] mikedep334: but its not availabe tho :P [19:19] handbrake-gtk is the package you want, it's in the default repositories [19:19] hmm [19:19] i have to add the repo mikedep334 [19:19] maybe I got it from another repo [19:20] ohh okies no console version ?? i wud like it if its lighter n faster [19:20] !info handbreak-gtk [19:20] kosaidpo: oh, there should be handbrake-cli [19:20] Package handbreak-gtk does not exist in natty [19:20] I assumed you weren't fluent with the CLI [19:21] mikedep334: im not tho but ilike to use it :D [19:21] kosaidpo: getdeb has handbrake-gtk & handbrake-cli [19:21] kosaidpo: cool [19:21] so i can be fluent in the future [19:21] the PPA is only for lucid and older [19:21] mikedep334: ohhh okies [19:22] kosaidpo: http://www.getdeb.net/software/HandBrake [19:22] looks like you'll have to add the entire getdeb repo [19:23] that link does not include the handbrake-cli package [19:23] http://www.getdeb.net/updates/Ubuntu/11.04/?q=handbrake [19:23] see the "Click here to learn how to install application from getdeb" [19:23] i dont mind addin the getden repo i have already the game one :D [19:23] follow the instructions, and then you should be able to find handbrake-cli in synaptic [19:24] or apt-get ;) [19:24] Unit193: or "sudo aptitude install handbrake-cli" [19:25] I for one will mourn the loss of aptitude on the ubuntu-desktop CD [19:25] I won't as I use apt-get full time [19:25] Unit193: gotcha [19:25] I have a ton of trouble whenever I try to use the interactive mode of aptitude [19:25] mikedep334: Have you looked at pastebinit? That's one program I want by default [19:26] but the command line mode (if that is the correct term) has more feature than apt-get [19:26] try entering "aptitude " then hitting tab [19:26] mikedep334: i use apt-get too :D [19:26] Unit193: no, sounds cool though [19:27] mikedep334: lspci |pastebinit | usage :D [19:27] guys icant add the deb http://archive.getdeb.net/ubuntu natty-getdeb apps using the cmmd line ?? [19:27] for example, try "aptitude search " [19:27] i mean with apt-add-repo [19:27] Unit193: ahh! good test case. [19:27] mikedep334: apt-cache search lala [19:27] mikedep334: Maybe we should take this -offtopic... [19:28] kosaidpo: use sudo dpkg -i [19:28] or double click the getdeb repository-adding deb [19:28] in case that works [19:28] Unit193: I'm about to head out [19:29] miked yeh i kno it will im jst curious how to add a non launchapd repo using the console for ex this one sudo apt-add-repository deb http://archive.getdeb.net/ubuntu natty-getdeb apps [19:29] * kosaidpo this does work [19:29] kosaidpo: in case you don't know, you do need to use sudo [19:30] mikedep334: what ?? i use this ---> sudo apt-add-repository deb http://archive.getdeb.net/ubuntu natty-getdeb apps BUT its not wokin [19:30] kosaidpo: the line "deb http://arhive.getdeb.net/ubuntu natty-getdeb apps" needs to be entered in software-properties-gtk [19:31] mikedep334: so thers no way to do it via the console ? [19:31] kosaidpo: it's a different syntax [19:31] let me look it up [19:31] k [19:32] kosaidpo: apt-add-repository is only for PPA's it sounds like [19:32] try running just: [19:33] sudo deb http://archive.getdeb.net/ubuntu natty-getdeb apps [19:33] then the 2nd command they tell you to for the signature [19:33] not workin [19:33] :P [19:35] hmm [19:35] the deb command does not exist [19:35] oh, ok [19:35] run: [19:35] sudo apt-add-repository http://archive.getdeb.net/ubuntu natty-getdeb apps [19:36] mikedep334: this one doesnt work [19:36] kosaidpo: for reference, I looked this up by running: apt-add-repository --help [19:36] hmm [19:38] mikedep334: yesh :P [19:38] got it! [19:38] sudo apt-add-repository 'http://archive.getdeb.net/ubuntu natty-getdeb apps' [19:38] for reference [19:39] you chould probably put the original line (beginning with 'deb') into a file like /etc/apt/sources.list [19:39] Unit193: how do you echo a line into a file with >> when you need to use sudo? [19:39] okies thanks [19:40] I thought it complains about permissions [19:40] mikedep334: even i already did it using the gui :P [19:40] mikedep334: I just use sudo nano [19:40] Unit193: yeah, me too [19:40] mikedep334: i guess sudo echo "hello" > filename [19:40] I just want to avoid making typing mistakes at times [19:40] no [19:40] two arrows [19:40] Doesn't that clear the file? [19:40] when you want to append [19:41] yeah, two arrows is append [19:41] one arrow is overwrite [19:41] make sure you use the correct one! [19:41] yeh sorry need to add 2 arrows [19:41] Kurdistan, 6-1!! :D [19:42] sudo echo deb http://archive.getdeb.net/ubuntu natty-getdeb apps >> /etc/apt/sources.list [19:42] bash: /etc/apt/sources.list: permission denied [19:42] bioterror, I didnt get you. [19:42] mikedep334, uou forgot " " [19:42] bioterror: no difference [19:43] Kurdistan, you watch only football? [19:43] sudo echo "deb http://archive.getdeb.net/ubuntu natty-getdeb apps" >> /etc/apt/sources.list [19:43] same error [19:43] bioterror, almost, you talk about hocky? [19:43] Kurdistan, ya! [19:43] finland against sweden? [19:43] ya! [19:44] :) okey now I understand [19:44] grattis [19:45] how is lubuntu shaping up? [19:45] ok, I'm off to play with my eee pad transformer at starbucks at the mall [19:45] last weekend I was there with my viewsonic gtablet, after talking to an apple store employee for a bit he encouraged me to apply for a job at the apple store [19:46] Kurdistan: I didn't get a chance to play with it too much; I installed it on a machine with either a failing HDD & DVD drive, or a failing storage controller [19:46] mikedep334, I see. better luck later then. [21:04] hi all [21:45] hey you guys [21:45] i'm running lubuntu from USB, and it's not detecting my wifi card that it should detect (texas instruments acx) [21:53] i guess tiacx modules were removed form kernel around ubuntu 9.10. You'll have to use windows drivers with ndiswrapper. [21:53] http://www.linux-archive.org/ubuntu-kernel-team/273818-ubutu-karmic-module-acx-dropped.html [22:47] I am looking for advice on how to make an iso bootable from grub2 without installing the iso [22:47] I understand lubuntu has been modified to allow this, but can not find documentation of how to do this [22:47] anyone here able to shed some light on the question ? [22:50] bodhi_zazen: You're asking about changes to the ISO? That's best for jmarsden, gilir or maybe even bioterror [22:50] ISO Building that is [22:53] Well, it will probably be changes to the initrd ... [22:53] but yes [22:56] You may need to hangout for a while... [23:14] Do you have any idea what file it might be in? [23:17] Well, to boot an iso you use a config for grub2 that loop mounts the iso [23:17] bodhi_zazen: lubuntu have only been very recently the tools for ubuntu official builds [23:18] bodhi_zazen: in the past, the devs were using their own system. [23:19] http://forums.zenix-os.net/viewtopic.php?p=2759#p2759 [23:19] by the way, hello bodhi_zazen, master. Quiet I may be, listen I do :) [23:19] So I can loop mount my zenix iso, but I am getting a kernel panic [23:19] 'lo phillw =) [23:20] bodhi_zazen: jmarsden would probably be the best to help you on that issue. [23:20] so my kernel loads, it runs initrd (the init in the rd) , but then when it goes to pass off the root fs -> panic [23:23] bodhi_zazen: as you well know, I'm an admin not a dev. get a hold of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JonathanMarsden and have a chat to him, he is a really good guy and well skilled. [23:26] hey phillw how's it going? [23:27] semitones: after yesterday, waking with a pulse was good :) Things are okay. How are things with you? [23:28] Had a little spam there... [23:28] whoa, intense :) [23:28] things with me are pretty ok -- just struggling a little with installing lubuntu to my dad's old laptop [23:29] are you on lubuntu right now? [23:31] semitones: nope, it is on my to do list, once I have the database recovered for my parents' company. Which has so far taken 3 days. It will either go well, or fail massively. [23:31] good luck! [23:32] semitones: what is the problem? [23:33] phillw, lubuntu doesn't automatically detect my old wifi card [23:33] it looks like the drivers were dropped from the kernel [23:33] so I was wondering if lubuntu had ndiswrapper installed automatically [23:34] semitones: As we use the standard WiFi that comes with the ubuntu family, if it works on ubuntu and not on lubuntu then it is a bug that needs checking. [23:35] phillw, I'll boot ubuntu and verify -- I'm using 10.10 by the way, 11.04 won't boot at all (it might be a bad .iso [23:35] ) [23:37] semitones: as I am running 9.10 ubuntu as they managed to 'improve' things and break my 3G device, sometimes things go well, some times there are regressions. We adapt :) [23:37] yeah [23:37] semitones: you know how to check the burnt CD? [23:37] it's in the boot menu [23:37] mikedep334, hehe, about that [23:38] it fails the same way if I choose "test cd" or "install" [23:38] actually, let me try it on a newer computer [23:38] semitones: try one of the F6 options I think [23:38] semitones: depends on which version of lubuntu you are using :) [23:38] there should be some options like "disable acpi" [23:38] mikedep334, you think that will work? [23:38] semitones: yes, it's worked for me in the past [23:39] especially on older PC's [23:39] fiddle with those hardware compatibility options [23:39] well, not older PC's, but still [23:42] ok [23:42] dang this time the bootlogo is taking a long time to come up [23:43] yuck, it froze trying to load bootlogo [23:43] blinking cursor syndrome [23:43] While I am here ... [23:43] phillw: do you mind if I post a link to my custom iso ? [23:44] bodhi_zazen: I'm guessing you could in #lubuntu-offtopic ? [23:45] bodhi_zazen: not at all, my friend. and if you wish a secondary link for it, I will happily post it to my server, [23:45] Thank you [23:45] http://zenix-os.net/screenshots.html [23:45] Downloads : http://zenix-os.net/download.html [23:46] phillw: If you would be willing to mirror those , that would be fantastic [23:46] PM me the url and I will add it to the downloads page [23:47] bodhi_zazen: I will get bioterror to upload them to my server. but, as Unit193 pointed out - rules are rules and we 'should' be on #lubuntu-offtopic. Heck, we do train them well :) [23:51] phillw: I wasn't sure if linking to other distros was allowed in here... [23:54] Unit193: officially it should have been done on -offtopic, however all rules are made with the sole intent of being broken. And to have that 'rule' broken by such a fantastic guy is, to me, a honour.