| thomb | Hey, I'm having a total failure installing 11.04 on hardware that should work (Clarkdale-based desktop) | 01:51 |
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| thomb | https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+question/158859 has details | 01:51 |
| thomb | anyone around? | 02:00 |
| cjwatson | ev: could you take bug 788859? | 08:56 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 788859 in ubiquity "3D session selected even if not supported; availability of 2D session not obvious" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/788859 | 08:56 |
| ev | sure thing | 09:25 |
| * cjwatson belatedly realises that qemu-system-ppc -cpu G4 -M mac99 -bios /usr/share/openbios/openbios-ppc -cdrom foo.iso -hda foo.img -boot order=d allows him to debug powerpc problems, albeit slowly | 10:05 | |
| ev | nice | 10:13 |
| cjwatson | though hmm, no network | 10:13 |
| ev | I take it -net user does not work | 10:14 |
| cjwatson | -net nic -net user is supposed to be the default | 10:14 |
| cjwatson | ah, kernel problem I think | 10:16 |
| ev | hmm this is starting to look like a metacity issue | 10:20 |
| ev | http://mail.gnome.org/archives/commits-list/2010-October/msg03679.html - that would do it | 10:50 |
| CIA-12 | ubiquity: evand * r4728 trunk/ (bin/ubiquity-dm debian/changelog): gnome-settings-daemon no longer daemonizes (LP: #788859). | 11:03 |
| soren | cjwatson: With openbios from Debian? | 11:23 |
| cjwatson | yes | 11:23 |
| soren | Ok. | 11:23 |
| soren | Darn it :) | 11:23 |
| cjwatson | cf. bug 756068 | 11:23 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 756068 in openbios-ppc "openbios-ppc version 1.0+svn640-1 failed to build on i386" [Medium,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/756068 | 11:23 |
| cjwatson | (silly ubot2. that's really Triaged) | 11:24 |
| cjwatson | bug 789054 for the network problem | 11:24 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 789054 in linux "d-i fails to bring up network on powerpc" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/789054 | 11:24 |
| soren | cjwatson: I've been tempted so many times to do the worst things imaginable to make it work. | 11:25 |
| soren | cjwatson: Ranging from just embedding it in a new source package along with source code and instructions for how to update it, through embedding it, building a powerpc vm image, booting qemu-powerpc and actually rebuilding the source, to uploading it with arch:any and having the build on !powerpc grab the powerpc binary and embedding the image from there. | 11:28 |
| soren | cjwatson: Neither seem particularly pleaseing :) | 11:28 |
| soren | The first option sucks for potential security updates, the last relies on being able to fetch packages for other architectures from a buildd. The middle one, while mindboggling, a resource hog, and quite timeconsuming, is actually workable as soon as we're past the bootstrapping, although build-depending on oneself sounds like no fun at all. | 11:32 |
| persia | I chatted with bigjools about how to do that, and the recommendation was to extend Soyuz to be able to express architecture affinity somehow. | 11:32 |
| cjwatson | as I mentioned in that bug ... | 11:32 |
| cjwatson | (though a cross-compiler might work too.) | 11:33 |
| cjwatson | (but that's a big stack to maintain for a handful of packages.) | 11:34 |
| soren | persia: What, fix the problem rather that work around it? pft | 11:34 |
| persia | cjwatson: Aren't we down to just openbios-ppc? I thought the rest went away with the removal of hppa and sparc. | 11:35 |
| cjwatson | openhackware too | 11:35 |
| persia | Oh, right. That's the other PPC one. | 11:35 |
| cjwatson | bug 755943 | 11:35 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 755943 in openhackware "openhackware version 0.4.1-4 failed to build on i386" [Medium,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/755943 | 11:35 |
| soren | persia: Just because sparc is gone doesn't mean we don't need a sparc bios for qemu :) | 11:36 |
| cjwatson | aha, '-net nic,model=e1000 -net user' works | 11:37 |
| cjwatson | soren: well, that really would need a cross-compiler now | 11:37 |
| persia | soren: But the LP change won't let us build it. | 11:37 |
| soren | persia: Right. | 11:37 |
| soren | cjwatson: Yeah. That doesn't seem very likely for a non-supported architecture, though. | 11:37 |
| cjwatson | quite | 11:38 |
| soren | Oh, well. At least the Debian package still works. | 11:38 |
| CIA-12 | choose-mirror: cjwatson * r1164 ubuntu/ (choose-mirror.c debian/changelog): | 11:50 |
| CIA-12 | choose-mirror: Only default mirror/country to the value of debian-installer/country if | 11:50 |
| CIA-12 | choose-mirror: the latter has any mirrors; otherwise, fall through to defaulting to GB | 11:50 |
| CIA-12 | choose-mirror: (LP: #756719). | 11:50 |
| CIA-12 | choose-mirror: cjwatson * r1165 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 2.38ubuntu2 | 11:51 |
| CIA-12 | debian-installer: cjwatson * r1449 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 20101020ubuntu32 | 15:10 |
| sevis__ | hi | 16:59 |
| CarlFK | hi | 16:59 |
| sevis__ | who can help me, with preseeding? | 16:59 |
| CarlFK | no one, cuz you didn't ask a question about it ;/ | 16:59 |
| sevis__ | sorry :D | 16:59 |
| CarlFK | https://gitorious.org/vms/vms/blobs/master/mk_sid_qcow.sh run that. | 17:01 |
| sevis__ | i have a preseed file, which was for fully automatic install thru the local net. but it was for earlier version of linux (8.02 maybe) and now i want to do the same on baltix linux 10.04 rc3 | 17:01 |
| sevis__ | did anyone understood my thoughts? | 17:03 |
| CarlFK | yes - you need to fix your preseed file to set the settings the new installer needs. | 17:04 |
| sevis__ | but i don't know which settings don't to new ones.. | 17:04 |
| sevis__ | it asks me for the first step - region | 17:05 |
| CarlFK | When you run the install, does it prompt you for anything? | 17:05 |
| sevis__ | and i didin't saw the diferrence | 17:05 |
| sevis__ | yes | 17:05 |
| sevis__ | and then skips to the partitioning | 17:08 |
| sevis__ | and then prompts all the following steps | 17:09 |
| CarlFK | I think the recommended way is to do the install (use the preseed, answer the prompts) boot the new system and run a command that dumps all the settings that were used | 17:09 |
| ev | ubiquity upload blocked by me forgetting to do an MIR for python-xklavier | 17:09 |
| ev | monday :) | 17:09 |
| sevis__ | but i have to do the task, with no prompts | 17:09 |
| sevis__ | :) | 17:10 |
| CarlFK | that dump should have all the settings the installer needs. | 17:10 |
| sevis__ | how to dump that? | 17:10 |
| sevis__ | sorry, i'm lithuanian and my english may be broken | 17:10 |
| sevis__ | could you explain me that please :D | 17:10 |
| CarlFK | give me a sec to look it up... | 17:11 |
| sevis__ | ok | 17:11 |
| cjwatson | CarlFK: um, not really | 17:12 |
| cjwatson | the recommended way is to work from the advice in the installation guide | 17:12 |
| cjwatson | doing a debconf dump *can* be useful in some situations, but it will produce many items that should not be preseeded as well | 17:12 |
| cjwatson | it's more useful for looking up a single question | 17:12 |
| cjwatson | sevis__: I recommend going through https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/installation-guide/i386/appendix-preseed.html | 17:13 |
| CarlFK | cjwatson: i thought the dump was what the guild recommended | 17:13 |
| cjwatson | CarlFK: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/installation-guide/i386/preseed-creating.html "However, a file generated in this manner will have some items that should not be preseeded, and the example file is a better starting place for most users." | 17:13 |
| sevis__ | but i have the options, and just need to remove the prompts, to do it automatically :D | 17:14 |
| CarlFK | ok, so I wasn't completely crazy :) | 17:14 |
| sevis__ | and i don't know, which commands does not match | 17:14 |
| cjwatson | if you post your preseed file and boot parameters, I can comment on them | 17:16 |
| cjwatson | (remove any authentication details, obviously) | 17:16 |
| sevis__ | just here? :) | 17:17 |
| CarlFK | sevis__: pastebin site | 17:18 |
| CarlFK | sevis__: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ | 17:19 |
| sevis__ | http://paste.ubuntu.com/613832/ | 17:20 |
| CarlFK | sevis__: also post your kernel boot parameters | 17:21 |
| CarlFK | sevis__: "debian-installer/locale=en_US console-keymaps-at/keymap=us keyboard-configuration/xkb-keymap=us netcfg/get_hostname=qemu netcfg/get_domain= DEBCONF_DEBUG=5" | 17:22 |
| sevis__ | "default /casper/vmlinuz GFXBOOT bootlogo label net-install menu label ^Network Install of Baltix GNU/Linux kernel /casper/vmlinuz append file=/ubuntu-cd/preseed/baltix.seed boot=casper automatic-ubiquity noprompt initrd=/casper/initrd.lz netboot=nfs nfsroot=192.168.1.11:/ubuntu-cd oem-config/enable=true debian-installer/language=lt console-setup/layoutcode=lt -- " | 17:22 |
| sevis__ | did you mean this? | 17:23 |
| CarlFK | yes | 17:24 |
| sevis__ | ok then | 17:24 |
| sevis__ | :) | 17:24 |
| cjwatson | try replacing "debian-installer/language=lt" with "locale=lt_LT.UTF-8" | 17:25 |
| cjwatson | looks largely ok otherwise | 17:26 |
| sevis__ | ok, i'll test now | 17:29 |
| sevis_ | still requests for the first step | 17:35 |
| sevis_ | ;\ | 17:35 |
| cjwatson | screenshot of the question it's asking? | 17:36 |
| sevis_ | i'm cappable to make screenshot on the other pc, because i boot from my dhcp server on another pc.. and i need no prompt-intallation | 17:37 |
| CarlFK | sevis_: I would install qemu on your current machine and use that to debug this. | 17:38 |
| sevis_ | what's that? :) | 17:39 |
| sevis_ | damn, i just need to edit a few steps, that there wouldn't be no prompts.. :\ | 17:43 |
| CarlFK | sevis_: give me a 5-10 min, I am trying to setup my box to use your conf | 17:44 |
| sevis_ | ok | 17:44 |
| CarlFK | sevis_: what is the URL I can get kernel /casper/vmlinuz from? (guessing it is part of a CD image) | 17:46 |
| sevis_ | it's part of the ubuntu alternate 10.04 cd | 17:46 |
| CarlFK | cool - I have that | 17:46 |
| sevis_ | :] | 17:47 |
| CarlFK | sevis_: sudo apt-get install qemu | 17:48 |
| CarlFK | may as well get that out of the way. | 17:48 |
| sevis_ | done | 17:50 |
| sevis_ | and what next? :D | 17:50 |
| CarlFK | sevis_: I think I have it runing here, with your problem on my screen... stand by.... | 17:58 |
| sevis_ | uuu, can't wait :D | 17:58 |
| CarlFK | sevis_: https://gitorious.org/vms/vms/blobs/master/mk_natty_qcow.sh | 18:01 |
| CarlFK | either wget that, or git clone the whole repo - not much to it. | 18:01 |
| CarlFK | whopps. sic.qcow is a bad name... | 18:02 |
| sevis_ | still don't get it, what's the relationship between *.seed file and *.sh :) sorry.. | 18:03 |
| CarlFK | .sh is a shell script you run | 18:04 |
| sevis_ | when it's used? | 18:05 |
| CarlFK | now :) | 18:05 |
| sevis_ | so if i understand well, then it's not enough of just *.seed file configuration? | 18:06 |
| CarlFK | um... this is for testing. so you can have something to do a screen shot of. | 18:07 |
| sevis_ | is it necessary? :D | 18:07 |
| CarlFK | it is a good way to get help | 18:08 |
| sevis_ | :\ | 18:12 |
| CarlFK | cjwatson: if I do qemu ... -curses (so I can cut/paste text) it gets stuck on "640 x 480 Graphic mode" - is there some way to tell it not to touch display modes? | 18:16 |
| cjwatson | don't know off the top of my head, sorry | 18:17 |
| CarlFK | sevis_: line 4: auto auto-install/enable - does that work? I am getting an error, I think it is that line | 18:26 |
| sevis_ | don't know, it's the same with it or without | 18:27 |
| CarlFK | sevis_: ok, if you get/run that script, it should run in qemu just like the box you are booting from | 18:33 |
| sevis_ | but i boot on another pc, don't bother | 18:35 |
| CarlFK | sevis_: is a message you get: http://www.nextdayvideo.com/site_media/static/img/baltix1-1.png | 18:41 |
| sevis_ | it's when you're using initrd.gz , you should use initrd.lz :) | 18:42 |
| CarlFK | ah, good catch | 18:42 |
| CarlFK | wait.. | 18:43 |
| CarlFK | and i need to swap debian for ubuntu | 18:45 |
| CarlFK | sevis_: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/ubuntu-installer/amd64/ | 18:50 |
| CarlFK | there is only gz. | 18:50 |
| sevis_ | use iso386 | 18:51 |
| sevis_ | use is386 | 18:51 |
| sevis_ | use i386 | 18:52 |
| sevis_ | there :D | 18:52 |
| sevis_ | it's 32bit | 18:54 |
| CarlFK | sevis_: is this what you get? http://www.nextdayvideo.com/site_media/static/img/temp/baltix2.png | 18:58 |
| sevis_ | nope | 19:01 |
| sevis_ | http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/850/75733943.jpg/ | 19:03 |
| sevis_ | i get this | 19:03 |
| CarlFK | (11:46:38 AM) sevis_: it's part of the ubuntu alternate 10.04 cd | 19:04 |
| CarlFK | is that the alternate installer? | 19:04 |
| sevis_ | baltix linux desktop | 19:05 |
| sevis_ | ftp://ftp.akl.lt/Linux/Baltix/Baltix-Linux-Desktop-10.04.2rc3-2011-02.iso | 19:05 |
| CarlFK | ah, that would be the URL i asked for. | 19:06 |
| sevis_ | (blush) | 19:06 |
| sevis_ | :D | 19:06 |
| CarlFK | sevis_: I found vmlinux and initrd in ftp://ftp.akl.lt/Linux/Baltix/Server/seni-old/casper/ | 19:20 |
| CarlFK | can you find any others on that server ? | 19:20 |
| sevis_ | what files? | 19:23 |
| sevis_ | i have backups of all files needed | 19:23 |
| CarlFK | I don't | 19:23 |
| sevis_ | i can send u | 19:24 |
| CarlFK | can you find any others on that server ? | 19:31 |
| sevis_ | which ones exactly? | 19:37 |
| CarlFK | sevis_: the netboot ones. but that server isn't organized well, so it is hard to tell what is where. so I'll try any you can find. | 19:39 |
| sevis_ | netboot files were from alternate cd | 19:43 |
| sevis_ | i'm uploading whright now | 19:45 |
| sevis_ | it'll take a while | 19:47 |
| sevis_ | http://www.megaupload.com/?d=URL6D201 | 19:59 |
| sevis_ | here u go | 19:59 |
| CarlFK | sevis_: what's the url I can wget ? | 20:01 |
| sevis_ | url of what? :S | 20:03 |
| CarlFK | what are the md5sums of the 2 files? | 20:10 |
| sevis_ | md5sums? what's that? sorry.. | 20:16 |
| CarlFK | sevis_: like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/613883/ | 20:17 |
| sevis_ | don't know :S | 20:17 |
| CarlFK | run that command. | 20:18 |
| sevis_ | http://paste.ubuntu.com/613885/ | 20:19 |
| sevis_ | will you be tomorrow here? | 20:34 |
| sevis_ | i'm going offline till tomorrow.. | 20:34 |
| CarlFK | sevis_: where did this file come from: beaf59d44191c0e94e9233189719b786 initrd.gz | 20:35 |
| sevis_ | i don't remember well, but i guess that from baltix linux | 20:36 |
| CarlFK | on the cd, is there a dir called netboot ? | 20:36 |
| sevis_ | nope | 20:37 |
| sevis_ | just on alternate | 20:37 |
| CarlFK | what? | 20:38 |
| sevis_ | on ubuntu altenate 10.04 cd | 20:38 |
| CarlFK | can we use that? | 20:39 |
| CarlFK | yes. what is the URL for that iso? | 20:39 |
| sevis_ | http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download | 20:40 |
| CarlFK | I think I have seen that this needs to be localized: d-i partman/choose_partition select Finish partitioning and write changes to disk | 21:22 |
| CarlFK | sevis_: what do you use for keyboard-configuration/layoutcode=us ? | 21:26 |
| sevis_ | layoutcode=lt | 21:26 |
| CarlFK | "Method for toggling between natural and Latin mode" Alt-Shift | 21:30 |
| CarlFK | any idea what the config is for that? | 21:31 |
| CarlFK | keyboard-confiuration/toggle | 21:31 |
| CarlFK | keyboard-configuration/toggle=Alt+Shift | 21:35 |
| CarlFK | spelling helps | 21:35 |
| sevis_ | no idea :\ | 21:36 |
| CarlFK | keyboard works. I need the text for "Finish partitioning and write changes to disk" | 21:37 |
| cjwatson | finish | 21:38 |
| sevis_ | maybe this will help http://paste.ubuntu.com/613905/ .. | 21:39 |
| CarlFK | finish - heh. thanks. | 21:40 |
| sevis_ | any progress? :S | 21:43 |
| CarlFK | yeah, I thinik you want the APPEND from https://gitorious.org/vms/vms/blobs/master/mk_natty_qcow.sh | 21:43 |
| CarlFK | that scrip is doing an install, no prompts | 21:44 |
| sevis_ | so is there any way to do an install without prompts using ONLY *.seed? | 21:46 |
| CarlFK | yes. that script does it. | 21:47 |
| sevis_ | where should i put that script? | 21:47 |
| CarlFK | well, and you need to boot the kernel. that may be what you mean by ONLY | 21:48 |
| CarlFK | in your home dir. chmod u+x it, ./run it. see what happens. | 21:48 |
| CarlFK | except that finish didn't work... | 21:49 |
| CarlFK | cjwatson: d-i partman/choose_partition select finish ? | 21:50 |
| CarlFK | I see "finish" here: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/installation-guide/i386/preseed-contents.html#preseed-partman | 21:54 |
| CarlFK | but when I changed language it didn't like that | 21:54 |
| cjwatson | should work like that, but not going to check now ... | 21:58 |
| CarlFK | once the install is done I can look it up with debconf-get-selections | 21:58 |
| cjwatson | not necessarily helpful in the case of partman | 21:59 |
| CarlFK | oh joy. | 21:59 |
| cjwatson | it might give you *an* answer, but not always the one that should be preseeded | 21:59 |
| cjwatson | partman is pretty much the primary example of something where debconf-get-selections is misleading | 22:00 |
| CarlFK | http://www.nextdayvideo.com/site_media/static/img/temp/noapt1.png Can't exec "aptitude": No such file or directory | 23:42 |
| CarlFK | how did that happen? | 23:42 |
| CarlFK | "root=/dev/rd/0 rw locale=lt_LT keyboard-configuration/layoutcode=lt console-setup/layoutcode=lt console-setup/ask_detect=false keyboard-configuration/toggle=Alt+Shift netcfg/get_hostname= apt-setup/proposed=true netcfg/get_hostname=qemu netcfg/get_domain= DEBCONF_DEBUG=5 | 23:43 |
| CarlFK | http://gitorious.org/vms/vms/blobs/raw/master/preseed_baltix.cfg | 23:43 |
| CarlFK | http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/ubuntu-installer/i386/initrd.gz (not a definitive) | 23:48 |
| cjwatson | aptitude isn't installed by default any more - installer paths that use it are meant to install it | 23:49 |
| cjwatson | oh, bleh, the security-updates path doesn't | 23:50 |
| cjwatson | please file a bug on pkgsel | 23:50 |
| CarlFK | will do | 23:55 |
| cjwatson | so pkgsel/upgrade=true is probably broken then | 23:55 |
| cjwatson | sorry | 23:56 |
| CarlFK | yay, some good came out of this baltix thing | 23:56 |
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