[00:07] <[reed]> micahg: around?
[00:53] <micahg> [reed]: now I am, what can I do for you?
[02:54] <BUGabundo> nite folks
[02:54] <micahg> night BUGabundo
[19:20] <chrisccoulson> ooh, b3 builds to prepare
[19:21] <chrisccoulson> hi m_conley, how are you?
[19:21] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: hey!  good, yourself?
[19:21] <chrisccoulson> m_conley, good, but busy thanks
[19:22] <chrisccoulson> are you ok with the work items that got added to the default mail client blueprint?
[19:22] <m_conley> I've been keeping up with it, and I haven't seen anything that's shocked me yet
[19:23] <chrisccoulson> cool
[19:23] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: EDS integration is a bit of a pain.  The documentation is pretty poor.
[19:24] <chrisccoulson> yeah, we don't really have good documentation for anything :(
[19:24] <chrisccoulson> m_conley, did you figure out if there is an API for creating addressbooks?
[19:24] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: there is indeed
[19:25] <chrisccoulson> oh, that's good
[19:25] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: but I haven't looked too deeply into it
[19:25] <chrisccoulson> the calendar stuff concerns me a bit. i thought i'd be able to convince everyone that it just isn't that important for most users ;)
[19:26] <m_conley> chrisccoulson: have you spoken with any of the Lightning developers?
[19:27] <chrisccoulson> not yet. i'm pretty busy already with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/FirefoxUpgradeChecklist/5.0 and https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-o-mozilla-rapid-release-maintenance
[19:59] <fta> chrisccoulson, do you maintain the translations of your desktop files in lp now?
[20:00] <chrisccoulson> fta - not yet. i'm not using lp for any translations atm
[20:01] <chrisccoulson> that's something else i need to do this cycle
[20:01] <fta> chrisccoulson, maybe this can help: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~chromium-team/chromium-browser/chromium-translations-tools.head/view/head:/desktop2gettext.py
[20:01] <chrisccoulson> it's not good that every blueprint assigned to me this cycle has Priority: High ;)
[20:01] <chrisccoulson> fta - thanks, will take a look
[20:03] <fta> it's standalone, you can translate just your desktop files in lp without anything else
[21:17] <BUGabundo> fta: chromium zoom is broken
[21:17] <BUGabundo> it doesn't remember it over restarts
[21:22] <bhearsum> chrisccoulson: fyi, we put out the first 6.0a2 aurora builds today
[21:36] <chrisccoulson> bhearsum, yeah, i saw. thanks
[21:36] <chrisccoulson> i'm just preparing some builds too :)
[21:36] <bhearsum> cool!
[21:42] <chrisccoulson> hmmm, maintaining a binary extension is hard
[21:42] <bhearsum> yeah
[21:42] <chrisccoulson> my code is full of ifdef's now so it builds on all branches ;)
[21:42] <bhearsum> is the Unity extension binary?
[21:42] <bhearsum> i guess it has to be to integrate at that level
[21:43] <chrisccoulson> bhearsum, yeah, that's the one i was referring to
[21:43] <chrisccoulson> i should try to get this merged in to core at some point
[21:44] <bhearsum> oh, upstream?
[21:44] <chrisccoulson> yeah
[21:44] <chrisccoulson> that was always the plan. i always hoped that this extension would be temporary ;)
[21:45] <bhearsum> i wonder how that would go over, we're not very great at dealing with distro-specific things
[21:45] <bhearsum> we don't even have any build or test infrastructure that could compile or run it!
[21:46] <chrisccoulson> bhearsum, yeah, i'm not sure. there's a bug open for it already though
[21:46] <bhearsum> oh, cool
[21:49] <bhearsum> roc seems supportive in that bug, that's good news :)
[21:52] <chrisccoulson> yeah, i just need to find some time to actually submit a patch now :)
[21:52] <chrisccoulson> i'm hoping that i can base most of it on the extension i wrote
[22:01] <fta> micahg, Cced you to bug 789223
[22:01] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 789223 in binutils "ld.gold.real: fatal error: out of file descriptors and couldn't close any" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/789223
[22:02] <micahg> fta: thanks
[22:04] <fta> micahg, we will soon be unable to build with the regular ld, it's becoming too big, hence too slow and makes the builders kill the build because they see no activity
[22:05] <fta> it used to happen on armel, now with ch13, it impacts lucid and maverick
[22:05] <micahg> fta: can we break it up into 2 sources?
[22:05] <fta> ?
[22:06] <micahg> build some of the components first and then build depend on them
[22:06] <fta> it's too big to link the final binary
[22:06] <micahg> ah
[22:06] <micahg> how does upstream do it?
[22:12] <fta> with ld-gold, hence my 2 bugs
[22:15] <micahg> ah, ok
[22:30] <chrisccoulson> so, oneiric will get a new tbird early next week :)
[22:30] <micahg> cool, TB 5 or 6?
[22:31] <chrisccoulson> 5
[22:31] <micahg> cool
[22:57] <chrisccoulson> hmm, thank you launchpad: https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa/+build/2530390
[22:57] <chrisccoulson> no build log ?
[22:57] <chrisccoulson> useful :)
[23:00] <micahg> chrisccoulson: usually means the buildd was killed
[23:51] <fta> chrisccoulson_, it's a known lp bug. i reported it several times, but as usual, nothing happened