[17:16] <James2^2> hey guys, i seem to have lost the repo selection page from MCC.
[17:19] <James2^2> any ideas where it has gone and/or how to change to 0.23.1 on 11.04
[17:19] <James2^2> the backup restore system is a bit flaky too
[17:19] <James2^2> i dod a backup before reinstalling this system
[17:20] <James2^2> having re mapped /var/lib/mythtv to where all my recording are, and restoring the backup
[17:20] <James2^2> i still have no chanels, or recorded programs
[17:20] <James2^2> at least myth isnt showing them
[17:20] <James2^2> i can see the files in /var/lib/mythtv/recordings
[17:24] <James2^2> ok somehow mythbuntu-repos got removed,
[17:25] <James2^2> but now it still isnt showing 0.23.1 as an option
[17:48] <tgm4883> James2^2, 0.23.1 isn't a valid option for 11.04
[17:49] <James2^2> so will a 0.23.1 backup restore properly on 0.24?
[17:50] <James2^2> otherwise the backup i took is useless
[17:50] <tgm4883> it should, you would still need to do the steps to upgrade the database to the new schema
[17:50] <James2^2> got a link?
[17:51] <tgm4883> nope
[17:51] <tgm4883> going into mythtv-setup does it I believe
[17:51] <James2^2> does myth use a preset password for mysql?
[17:51] <tgm4883> no it uses a generated password
[17:51] <James2^2> i like how my clean reinstall has the same mysql password as the backup i took (prior to restoring the backup that is)
[17:51] <James2^2> lol must just be a billion to 1 fluke then :P
[17:52] <tgm4883> no, the backup also backs up the password
[17:52] <James2^2> i know, thats how i know the passwords are the same lol
[17:52] <James2^2> /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt and the copy in the backup have the same password
[17:52] <tgm4883> /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt should have been restored from the backup
[17:53] <James2^2> i havent restored it yet lol
[17:53] <James2^2> freaky :P
[17:53] <tgm4883> ok
[17:53] <tgm4883> it is a random 8 character password right?
[17:53] <James2^2> i was trying to get back to 0.23.x before i did the restore
[17:54] <James2^2> yeah, as was the old one
[17:54] <James2^2> its not based on the hostname as a seed or anything?
[17:54] <James2^2> that might exlpain it lol
[17:54] <tgm4883> just FYI, the restore process will crash unless you kill mcc-backend then start (with sudo) /usr/share/mythbuntu/mcc-backend
[17:55] <tgm4883> How did you upgrade to 11.04?
[17:55] <James2^2> yeah i got my mirc log from you telling me that the other day :P
[17:55] <James2^2> its a clean install
[17:55] <tgm4883> ok
[17:55] <James2^2> from an iso downloaded ~2 days ago
[17:55] <tgm4883> thats why mythbuntu-repos was not installed
[17:55] <tgm4883> it's not part of the image
[17:55] <James2^2> ah right
[17:56] <James2^2> how do i deal with dulpicate channels
[17:56] <James2^2> i have dvb-t and dvb-s
[17:57] <James2^2> using just eit, i have created "eit" and "eit-freesat" video sources
[17:57] <James2^2> i scanned dvb-t first
[17:58] <James2^2> and when i scan with dvb-s it tells me a hundred or so conflicting channels were found
[17:58] <James2^2> whats the best thing to do with them?
[17:58] <James2^2> i know theres not that many, lol
[17:58] <James2^2> yesterday when i tried, i noticed 3 or 4 copies of the same channels coming in from the dvb-s
[17:59] <tgm4883> IDK, I don't scan for channels, I have a list
[17:59] <James2^2> and it tried to make me specify a channel number for each of them
[17:59] <James2^2> where do you get your list from?
[17:59] <tgm4883> if you have two channels (on two tuners) that are the same and showing up twice you can change the callsign and name to match
[17:59] <James2^2> is it somewhere that would have a nice uk list for me?
[17:59] <tgm4883> then mythtv should see them as the same
[18:00] <tgm4883> James2^2, nope, US here, Schedules Direct
[18:00] <James2^2> ok, thats what i need to do for bbc 1 for example
[18:00] <James2^2> is there a tool for doing it, or is just editing the database easier
[18:01] <James2^2> sql geek here, so id probably be happier editing the db than using the tool tbh lol
[18:02] <James2^2> ok, i just deleted all channels
[18:02] <James2^2> gonna add the channels the other way round
[18:04] <James2^2> dvb-s first, so now half hour wait lol
[18:04] <James2^2> hmm or not
[18:06] <James2^2> odd
[18:06] <James2^2> if i try to scan channels using a vertical polarity, i get nothing
[18:06] <James2^2> if i try to scan a horiz one, i get everything, including the vertical ones which failed
[18:08] <James2^2> thats getting the details of freq, polarity, rate etc from lyngsat
[19:14] <James2^2> ok this still isnt showing recordings that i had done prior to the reinstall
[19:14] <James2^2> i have restored the db, i can see the files that are the progems
[19:14] <James2^2> but watch recordigns is still empty
[19:25] <James2^2> what is the mysql root password?
[19:26] <James2^2> i havent set one, root doesnt have a ~/.my.cnf
[19:26] <James2^2> and it wont let me log on to localhost without one
[19:29] <James2^2> more important question i suppose, will starting the mysql server with --init-file to reset the root pass break anything
[19:29] <James2^2> i hope mythtv just uses the mythtv user for all db access
[19:31] <James2^2> ah well lets see
[19:31] <James2^2> i have a backup of /var/lib/mysql just in case :P
[19:34] <James2^2> ok im in :)
[19:58] <James2^2> should /etc/mythtv/mythweb-htaccess exist?
[20:03] <James2^2> putty always makesme chuckle when you do
[20:03] <James2^2> shutdown -r now
[20:04] <James2^2> "server unexpectedly closed connection"
[20:04] <James2^2> wasnt unexpected :P
[20:08] <James2^2> ok how do i delay the startup on the master backend
[20:08] <James2^2> each time i reboot im getting "could not connect to the master backend"
[20:09] <James2^2> and i have to ok the error
[20:09] <James2^2> if i restart the frontend, it connects fine
[20:09] <James2^2> on the same host this is, its like the frontend initially boots before the backend has fully started
[20:10] <James2^2> so i could use a few second pause on the frontend startup