* seidos shakes his pom poms | 00:23 | |
sn9 | i need another place to live in Sac before the month is over. craigslist has only a couple ads in my price range, and they've already turned me down | 00:41 |
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* seidos contemplates that problem | 00:52 | |
seidos | i don't see that there is anything i can do | 00:53 |
seidos | i have family in the sacramento area, but we really aren't close | 00:53 |
seidos | and if we were, they would probably still not be willing to help | 00:54 |
seidos | i *may* have a couch open here, but i have to talk to the coach | 00:54 |
seidos | disregard that last sentence, i'm not in sac | 00:54 |
seidos | sacrament-o | 00:55 |
seidos | interesting | 00:55 |
seidos | perhaps you could check with a priest/pastor/monk in the area | 00:56 |
seidos | sn9: ^ | 00:56 |
sn9 | like who? | 00:57 |
seidos | i dunno. pick some religions, and check it out on google maps. | 01:12 |
seidos | there may be a zen center in sacramento, or various christian denominations. | 01:12 |
seidos | i dunno, it's worth checking out sn9, to see if there are any religions that will put their money where their mouth is | 01:13 |
seidos | i tried to stay at the SF zen center, sn9, but that didn't work out. never got a return email from them. maybe they had enough negative monkies already | 01:13 |
sn9 | that's not encouraging | 01:14 |
seidos | well, change is encouraging | 01:18 |
seidos | don't be like my past self | 01:18 |
seidos | who i guess is now dead in a sense | 01:18 |
seidos | let's a mock funeral for the "last year me" | 01:19 |
seidos | oh drat, he came back and stole the "have" | 01:19 |
seidos | he = "last year me" | 01:22 |
seidos | get it? | 01:22 |
seidos | i better /usr/sbin/pm-suspend now | 01:22 |
kdub | what up channel | 19:32 |
gueriLLaPunK | not enjoying this freaky may weather... its suppose to be warm! | 20:07 |
nhaines | 70 isn't warm? | 20:13 |
sn9 | 70 is friggin' hot to me | 20:14 |
seidos | 70 is nominal for me | 20:20 |
seidos | watt up kdub | 20:20 |
seidos | unless i exercise, but cold showers remedy this | 20:20 |
akk | 70 is nice. Earlier in the week they were predicting low 60s and rain today, so I'm happy with how it turned out. | 20:31 |
kdub | 70 is ideal. is that what its like up in LA? | 21:17 |
=== seidos is now known as kevin78 | ||
=== kevin78 is now known as kdemarest | ||
Elep | Yo yo | 22:18 |
sn9 | welcome | 22:18 |
Elep | How goes it | 22:18 |
MarkDude | Hello Elep | 22:18 |
sn9 | it's been quiet in the channel | 22:18 |
sn9 | MarkDude: you're back already? | 22:18 |
MarkDude | Well, she had some stuff to do today | 22:18 |
MarkDude | So we are meeting up later | 22:18 |
sn9 | how long do you have? | 22:18 |
MarkDude | It appears I may be changing my relationship status on FB | 22:18 |
Elep | lol | 22:18 |
sn9 | from what to what? | 22:19 |
* MarkDude is no longer single | 22:19 | |
MarkDude | :D | 22:19 |
Elep | :D | 22:19 |
Elep | Good for you | 22:19 |
kdemarest | MarkDude: one love, i hope it works out for the both of you | 22:19 |
sn9 | if i used FB, i would now be changing it from "it's complicated" to "single and not looking" | 22:19 |
kdemarest | oh i just changed my wiki and launchpad wiki's to this name | 22:19 |
kdemarest | it's like, real | 22:19 |
sn9 | kdemarest: i liked it better before | 22:20 |
MarkDude | real is good | 22:20 |
MarkDude | Dont pay attention to sn9 | 22:20 |
kdemarest | sn9: no you didn't | 22:20 |
sn9 | for irc, i mean | 22:20 |
sn9 | not for e-mail and the like | 22:20 |
sn9 | that sucked | 22:20 |
MarkDude | his other nick is *myspoonistoobig | 22:20 |
kdemarest | it did T_T | 22:20 |
kdemarest | it's all good though, moving forward, not backward | 22:20 |
sn9 | we're in agreement, then | 22:20 |
kdemarest | MarkDude: have you been meditating or dropping acid? | 22:21 |
sn9 | [Fri 2011-05-27 02:21:10 PM PDT] -NickServ- Nicks : sn9 DrStrangelove DonkeyHotei danielg4 iScream MySpoonIsTooBig ANTIramisu MyHorseIsAmazing | 22:21 |
kdemarest | ah, i actually do have a big spoon next to me right now | 22:21 |
kdemarest | there is no spoon | 22:22 |
Elep | MarkDude made me sign into FB. Rare occurence. | 22:22 |
Elep | All you guys live in Cali? | 22:22 |
MarkDude | lol | 22:22 |
kdemarest | i prefer twitter | 22:22 |
* MarkDude is in NorCal | 22:23 | |
kdemarest | hopefully i'll get away from it as well | 22:23 |
kdemarest | SoCal here | 22:23 |
* MarkDude thinks of himself as West Coast | 22:23 | |
Elep | I'm from by Sacramento. Actually more by Folsom. | 22:23 |
Elep | I'm literally in Alaska but there's no one in that channel :/ | 22:23 |
MarkDude | Cool Elep - we should have something in Walnut Creek soon- I know some folks drive there from Sac | 22:23 |
Elep | You guys hold events? That's cool. | 22:24 |
Elep | Good to have something to do... | 22:24 |
MarkDude | Well- you arfe a bit North- but you can idle in Oregon if you like | 22:24 |
pleia2 | I'm going to canada tonight, that's kind of like alaska | 22:24 |
kdemarest | i think of "myself" as all of reality, but fleshly, i am west coast | 22:24 |
MarkDude | Canada is far more well behaved | 22:24 |
pleia2 | haha | 22:25 |
MarkDude | Alaska has Alaskans | 22:25 |
MarkDude | Even felons can own guns there | 22:25 |
Elep | Is that true? | 22:25 |
Elep | I'm not so sure. | 22:25 |
* MarkDude had lots of foks from Alakska while in PNW | 22:25 | |
Elep | That's cool. I've been thru Canada. Very beautiful. | 22:26 |
* MarkDude is relying on what his friends ffrom there said | 22:26 | |
kdemarest | i watched this horrific video on the sex trade in romania, made me cry | 22:26 |
pleia2 | I've only ever been to niagara falls | 22:26 |
pleia2 | should be an interesting weekend :) | 22:26 |
kdemarest | i've only ever been to Epcot | 22:26 |
pleia2 | I learned today that SFO doesn't count canada as international | 22:26 |
Elep | My friend I work with in Geeksquad lived in niagara falls | 22:26 |
pleia2 | so flights leave out of regular terminals | 22:27 |
Elep | What's SFO? | 22:27 |
pleia2 | san francisco airport | 22:27 |
Elep | That's a beautiful airport. I love that city. | 22:27 |
philipballew | Elp i'm from auburn! | 22:27 |
Elep | We would go walking around the city. No need for a car | 22:27 |
philipballew | *elep | 22:28 |
MarkDude | kdemarest, things like that remind me how LUCKY I am to live where I do | 22:28 |
pleia2 | yeah, we only really use our car in the city to do grocery shopping | 22:28 |
philipballew | ** Elep | 22:28 |
Elep | Yea it worked philipballew ;) | 22:28 |
MarkDude | I mean south Central LA is not that bad - when you step back and look at it that way | 22:28 |
kdemarest | MarkDude: i don't believe in luck | 22:28 |
Elep | Totally. I wouldn't mind not having a car. | 22:28 |
philipballew | biking is where its at | 22:28 |
Elep | ^ | 22:28 |
kdemarest | MarkDude: but i know what you're trying to say | 22:28 |
* MarkDude would rather have luck than smarts any day | 22:29 | |
philipballew | i biked to sacramento the other day and loved it | 22:29 |
philipballew | 30 miles | 22:29 |
Elep | Wow that's a long way | 22:29 |
kdemarest | i suspect nowhere is very bad as long as one has friends | 22:29 |
philipballew | when i was in san diego i hated it for the first month untill i made friends | 22:30 |
pleia2 | friends help | 22:30 |
philipballew | Elep, the climb back up th auburn was bad thogh | 22:30 |
Elep | I'm sure. | 22:30 |
Elep | Idk much about that area. I know it's a richer neighborhood I think.. | 22:31 |
kdemarest | the presence of someone you know that cares is often enough to help | 22:31 |
philipballew | Elep, folsom is richer then auburn correct? | 22:31 |
kdub | too many bikers in san diego | 22:31 |
kdemarest | what's wrong with bikers? | 22:31 |
philipballew | kdub, critical mass is sd tonight 8pm! | 22:31 |
Elep | Yea I only worked in Folsom, so Idk if they were richer or not. A lot of rich people there though. | 22:31 |
philipballew | where you work Elep? | 22:32 |
Elep | I worked at Intel and there was quite an influx of rich people from certain areas of Folsom | 22:32 |
Elep | Past tense | 22:32 |
kdub | philipballew: yeah, cant make it yet again, wish it was on like a tuesday | 22:32 |
Elep | Right now I work at Geeksquad in ak | 22:32 |
philipballew | i was going to go to intel this week and give flyers for the ubuntu hour im starting in sac area | 22:32 |
philipballew | ak? | 22:32 |
Elep | That's cool | 22:32 |
Elep | Alaska philipballew | 22:32 |
Elep | I'm near anchorage | 22:33 |
kdemarest | i need to get a bike, i had one in SF | 22:33 |
Elep | But I lived in Ca my whole life so I feel the love. | 22:33 |
kdemarest | there's one in Downey, but it need a new chain, and i just moved (again) | 22:33 |
kdemarest | phew | 22:33 |
Elep | kdemarest have you heard of Chrome shoes? | 22:33 |
kdemarest | hmmm, Alaska. i hear it's beautiful there | 22:33 |
Elep | It's wonderful. | 22:33 |
philipballew | oh swet!!! | 22:33 |
kdemarest | Elep: i've heard of Chrome the web navigator | 22:33 |
Elep | If you bike a lot Chrome shoes is in SF, great store. | 22:34 |
kdemarest | i wanted to go ice diving there | 22:34 |
kdemarest | Elep: if i go back, i'll try to remember | 22:34 |
kdemarest | i'm in LA now | 22:34 |
philipballew | kdub, then people cant get as drunk on the ride. this guy was oulling a trailer full og bud last time | 22:34 |
Elep | http://www.chromebagsstore.com/shoes.html | 22:34 |
kdemarest | have a drink! be merry! | 22:34 |
* kdemarest drinks a glass of h2o | 22:35 | |
Elep | Me too. Water is awesome. | 22:35 |
kdub | sounds illegal | 22:35 |
philipballew | kdub, they arrested him halfway through the race, but i suppect he considered it worthit | 22:35 |
kdemarest | Elep: too bad they don't sell tape | 22:36 |
kdemarest | Elep: are they affiliated with google? | 22:36 |
philipballew | kdub, well not really a race, more a giant party hippie ride | 22:37 |
kdub | thats ok, i'm not going anyways :P | 22:38 |
philipballew | lol. for sure! | 22:38 |
kdemarest | like this stuff: http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31k8aIH14lL._SL500_.jpg | 22:39 |
kdemarest | i wonder if it would work like the dragons or vibram 5 fingers | 22:39 |
kdemarest | i should get some | 22:39 |
Elep | kdemarest no they're not affiliated | 22:40 |
kdemarest | ah, it's probably more wasteful than the 5 fingers | 22:40 |
kdemarest | since it isn't that reusable | 22:40 |
Elep | What do you need the tape for? | 22:40 |
kdemarest | jogging | 22:40 |
Elep | I'm not familiar with heavy riding so | 22:40 |
Elep | What do you put it on? | 22:40 |
kdemarest | concrete is tough on bare feet | 22:40 |
Elep | Ooo | 22:40 |
Elep | Yea that's a good idea | 22:40 |
kdemarest | it's a thing out here, so i was trying it out | 22:41 |
kdemarest | the friction is the worst part actually | 22:41 |
Elep | What do you mean | 22:41 |
kdemarest | i guess that's why the 5 fingers, well, the socks are good | 22:41 |
kdemarest | er, well, it's cold in alaska so i guess you shouldn't try it | 22:41 |
Elep | lol | 22:41 |
kdemarest | gotta' take care of the feet | 22:41 |
Elep | It's not cold right now man | 22:41 |
Elep | It's like 70 | 22:41 |
kdemarest | whuh? | 22:42 |
Elep | Beautiful | 22:42 |
kdemarest | awesome, same here | 22:42 |
Elep | Yea people forget we have summer here too ;) | 22:42 |
kdemarest | except those crows...i never know what they are laughing at :/ | 22:42 |
Elep | It's also like 20 hrs of sunlight as well | 22:42 |
Elep | Sun comes up around 3AM | 22:42 |
kdemarest | i'm going to pet them in my mind | 22:42 |
kdemarest | anyway, so go for a walk barefoot | 22:42 |
kdemarest | on sidewalk | 22:42 |
kdemarest | you'll see what i mean, probably after about 3 blocks | 22:43 |
kdemarest | well, jog it if you can | 22:43 |
MarkDude | Just updated FB status, feel like a little kid :) | 22:43 |
kdemarest | wise children | 22:43 |
kdemarest | precocious | 22:43 |
kdemarest | operation rainbow bridge | 22:44 |
kdemarest | disneyland and beyond | 22:44 |
kdub | MarkDude: for updating facebook? | 22:45 |
Elep | kdemarest I would just get sandles or something for walking barefoot | 22:46 |
Elep | Some good birkenstock sandles, which I need. | 22:46 |
Elep | When I was in hawaii I really wanted some of those, and almost ordered some. Some of the are really nice. | 22:46 |
Elep | Expensive though. | 22:46 |
kdemarest | MarkDude: what do you think of this song, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3KrGI3Yxd8 | 22:47 |
kdemarest | when i was in hawaii, i should've just walked around barefoot | 22:47 |
kdemarest | but nooooo, i had to go to bars like a Barney | 22:47 |
Elep | Yea screw bars. What's a barney? | 22:48 |
Elep | A freakin dinosaur for lil kids I've seen. | 22:48 |
kdemarest | i think a mainland tourist | 22:48 |
Elep | Oh ok lol. | 22:48 |
kdemarest | haha Barney: http://pbskids.kids.us/images/sub-square-barney.gif | 22:48 |
kdemarest | here's another Barney: http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/6300000/The-Flintstones-Barney-Rubble-the-flintstones-6386160-350-454.jpg | 22:49 |
Elep | Awesome. | 22:49 |
kdemarest | Dhamma | 22:50 |
Elep | Is that a buddhist thing, my girlfriend's a buddhist | 22:51 |
Elep | I learned how to tie a tie yesterday. I was going thru all the youtube videos. I think my fav is the Prat knot. | 22:52 |
Elep | There's so many.. | 22:52 |
akk | re walking barefoot: does anybody make something like light slippers to simulate walking barefoot while protecting against concrete and rocks? | 22:52 |
akk | Like the five fingers things only not so expensive and without the separate-toe part. | 22:52 |
kdemarest | whoa, there are live surgeries on youtube | 22:52 |
kdemarest | akk: you can try tai boxing tape. might be a decent hack | 22:53 |
akk | Tthe non-resuable thing mentioned earlier would bother me. | 22:53 |
kdemarest | dang, doctors are crazy | 22:54 |
akk | Like that rubbery wrist-wrap stuff -- works great but I hate how I have to throw it away after a couple days. | 22:54 |
kdemarest | bad or good, i dunno | 22:54 |
kdemarest | oh, hmmm, rubberbands might work, but they can constrict | 22:55 |
akk | One of these days I'll try just getting a light piece of rubber and gluing stuff to it to make sandals, I guess. | 22:55 |
kdemarest | maybe old ide cables tied onto the foot | 22:55 |
kdemarest | really the issue is the sole | 22:55 |
kdemarest | soul pun | 22:55 |
akk | Long time ago I had this great pair of moccasins, thin rubber sole, suede upper, wore 'em everywhere | 22:56 |
kdub | did they last a long time? | 22:56 |
akk | 'til I ruined them slogging through high tide at stinson beach | 22:56 |
akk | They lasted a few years, before that | 22:56 |
kdemarest | man, i am way too squeamish to be a doctor. | 23:02 |
kdemarest | i just watched a video of a tummy tuck, it looks horrific | 23:02 |
kdub | akk: i like chucks. they hold up on the beach pretty ok too | 23:02 |
kdemarest | i have vans with little robots on them | 23:02 |
akk | I've read that some docs are squeamish when they enter med school, and it's possible to get over that. | 23:05 |
akk | Though I'm not sure why you'd aim at that as a career if your early reaction to it is ewwww. | 23:06 |
kdemarest | my reaction isn't "ewwww" it "owwww" | 23:07 |
kdemarest | *it's | 23:07 |
akk | kdemarest: Like Converse? Those don't seem much like being barefoot. | 23:10 |
kdemarest | akk: no, the slip ons. they were $25, and i needed shoes. i had some "water shoes" but those were a bad buy. | 23:11 |
kdemarest | ironically, if i had just bought the vibrams in the first place, i probably wouldn't have spent that much more | 23:12 |
kdemarest | i'm not even sure where to get them though, i don't see them in the ads in the paper. maybe after my next two pair of shoes break i'll get some. | 23:12 |
kdemarest | i bought a pair of airwalks for $5 @ good will | 23:13 |
akk | I'm not finding anything googling for chucks slip-ons that looks thin-soled. | 23:13 |
akk | I have some "water shoes" but they have relatively beefy soles too. | 23:13 |
kdemarest | yeah, i gave my water shoes away. they didn't work in the rain very well | 23:13 |
kdemarest | honestly, i think just save up and buy the good stuff | 23:14 |
akk | I got them for kayaking and they're okay for that, but really sandals work just as well. | 23:14 |
kdemarest | in the meantime, you can walk and run barefoot | 23:14 |
kdemarest | toughen up the souls, it doesn't hurt too bad if you don't over do it | 23:15 |
akk | And we've pretty much stopped kayaking since they imposed all the rules and costs related to zebra mussels. | 23:15 |
kdemarest | i <3 zebra mussels | 23:15 |
akk | They've really messed up anything related to boating in bay area reservoirs. | 23:15 |
kdemarest | why? they're growing on boats? | 23:16 |
kdemarest | i cleaned yachts for a day, but it interfered with school so i stopped. unfortunately, at the time, i didn't realize i should've just kept cleaning the yachts | 23:16 |
kdemarest | it was a fun job | 23:17 |
akk | They stick to boats, and move that way from an infested reservoir to one that they haven't colonized yet. | 23:17 |
kdub | so... paint the boats with poison. seems pretty simple to me... | 23:17 |
akk | So you have to get (and pay for) an inspection every time you put in any reservoir. | 23:17 |
kdemarest | hmmm, i wonder if regular boat cleaning would fix this problem | 23:17 |
kdemarest | boat cleaning was pricey iirc | 23:18 |
kdemarest | i mean, to pay a guy to dive in the water with scuba gear and a scraper... | 23:18 |
akk | They inspect them out of the water. Why try to do it underwater? | 23:19 |
kdemarest | i think they paid me $12 an hour, but the guy that was replacing zincs and stuff was making like 40 or 50k a year | 23:19 |
akk | Anyway, when they're in the water, mussels can still attach, so it only makes sense to inspect/clean when they're out. | 23:20 |
kdemarest | wait they inspect kayaks? | 23:20 |
akk | The rules are written for boats. There's no distinction made for kayaks. | 23:20 |
akk | So if d and I put our two kayaks in a reservoir, at most places we have to pay a launch fee that's double what a huge motorboat with 12 people aboard would pay | 23:20 |
akk | because we have, you know, two boats | 23:20 |
kdemarest | can you sneak past? | 23:21 |
akk | Crazy stupid rules. | 23:21 |
kdemarest | what if you bring a bow and arrow? | 23:21 |
akk | Yeah, usually we just find places upstream to put in. | 23:21 |
kdemarest | war cry? | 23:21 |
kdemarest | nice | 23:21 |
akk | But That was before zebra mussels, dunno if they're enforcing things more now. | 23:21 |
kdemarest | zebras have bigger muscles than me i think :( | 23:21 |
kdemarest | how strange, all they do is run :o | 23:22 |
kdemarest | maybe a lot of sprinting | 23:22 |
kdemarest | i hope not, kayaking is totally chill. they should be kayaking with you | 23:22 |
kdub | in SD, we just plop boats down and go | 23:22 |
kdub | what about paddle-boarding? | 23:22 |
kdemarest | i went kayaking a few times in long beach | 23:22 |
kdemarest | brought mask and snorkel, then dove in where there were some jelly fish | 23:23 |
akk | In the bay we can still just plop and go, but not in the freshwater reservoirs. | 23:23 |
kdemarest | they didn't sting very bad | 23:23 |
kdub | yeah, zebra mussels are annoying. asian carp is what everyone was worrying about in MI | 23:26 |
kdemarest | they're just sitting there, i think big boats are annoying | 23:27 |
kdemarest | all polluting and junk | 23:27 |
kdemarest | this is an interesting picture, a shopping cart full of zebra mussels: http://www.examiner.com/images/blog/wysiwyg/image/zebra_mussel_shopping_cart.gif | 23:28 |
kdub | international trade based on sailboats went out of style in the 19th century :P | 23:28 |
kdemarest | true, i wouldn't have this laptop if it weren't for huge cargo ships | 23:29 |
kdemarest | maybe i'd have a pet zebra mussel though | 23:29 |
kdemarest | and maybe we'd live next door, and went surfing every morning | 23:29 |
kdemarest | and played soccer on the weekends | 23:30 |
akk | I've heard speculation that huge cargo sailboats (high-tech ones) might come back, with oil prices rising and worry about global warming. | 23:31 |
kdemarest | whoa, that's interesting | 23:31 |
kdemarest | we'll probably have to wait for it to become financially feasible | 23:32 |
kdemarest | which means peak oil i bet | 23:32 |
akk | I think Jim Clark's sailboat is controlled by Irix ... probably most of that software would easily port to Linux. :) | 23:32 |
kdemarest | or not, it could happen sooner | 23:32 |
kdemarest | yeah, if you could find a developer willing to port it | 23:33 |
akk | You kidding? work on software for cutting-edge sailboats? | 23:35 |
kdemarest | ah, you mean like a j-o-b | 23:35 |
kdemarest | yeah, that's be cool | 23:35 |
pleia2 | we manage some servers at a shipyard, one of which runs the database that holds all the specs for cutting giant ships | 23:35 |
akk | I bet lots of people would port it just to get to ride on the sailboat. But they can certainly afford to pay. | 23:36 |
kdemarest | working on Irix would be like asking me to work Weld. i don't have a welder, or the space to do it. | 23:36 |
pleia2 | going on site there is fun times, but you need to wear a hard hat on you way to the IT department and server room :) | 23:36 |
kdemarest | *on | 23:36 |
akk | I worked on Irix for years. Liked it a lot -- it was a good Unix. | 23:36 |
kdemarest | i read this article today that said dressing like men helps women to close the pay gap | 23:37 |
kdemarest | actually, welding is too easy. it would be like asking me to perform reparative surgery for carpal tunnel syndrome | 23:37 |
kdemarest | what would the software be running, anyway? communications and nav? | 23:37 |
akk | those, and controlling the sails (and maybe motor when there's no wind) | 23:38 |
akk | and maybe the rudder | 23:38 |
kdemarest | that does sound interesting | 23:39 |
akk | and things like climate controls, window shutters, lighting etc. | 23:39 |
kdemarest | climate controls? window shutters? lighting? what's wrong with a manual switch? | 23:39 |
kdemarest | i guess if you can afford a huge sail boat, you're too busy to turn a light switch | 23:40 |
akk | oh, and the sound system. Rich people's yachts are not like an 8' sabot. :) | 23:40 |
kdemarest | bot? | 23:42 |
kdemarest | i think the yachts i saw were like 40 feet | 23:42 |
kdemarest | bigger ones were like 80 feet | 23:43 |
akk | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperion_%28yacht%29 | 23:43 |
kdemarest | wouldn't use a yacht to ship, anyway | 23:44 |
kdemarest | i'm not a fan of yachts | 23:44 |
kdemarest | i guess a clipper would be nice, if it doubled as a house | 23:45 |
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