/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/05/27/#ubuntu-us-oh.txt

dmcglone1This absolutely sucks!00:01
Cheri703?00:02
* canthus13 has his days off already reserved for OLF. :)00:12
Unit193I may be able to attend!00:14
canthus13Cool!00:15
canthus13My wife is going, too. :)00:16
canthus13..>And maybe one of my co-irkers.00:16
paultagcanthus13: :D00:16
Unit193canthus13: maybe I can find out who you are (But not paultag...)00:16
paultagUnit193: I might try to come00:17
dmcglone1I'm going to be there this year even if I'm threatened with divorce, and losing my kids and my million dollars, and alimony payments, and and and00:17
dmcglone1;-)00:18
dmcglone1I'm sure if I'm down with my back, paultag will push me in a wheel chair.. ;-)00:20
Unit193dmcglone1 is going? Nevermind... I have something to do that week :000:20
Unit193;)00:20
dmcglone1haha Unit19300:20
dmcglone1What ya gonna do go through your porn collection?00:20
Unit193You gotta love that guy...00:21
dmcglone1:-)00:21
Unit193(I was guessing you were talking about that guy in #kubuntu)00:21
dmcglone1Nah, I don't waste my breath on KDE users ;-)00:23
paultagdmcglone1: hehehehe00:23
paultagdmcglone1: I'd get you where you needed to be00:23
paultagdmcglone1: I'm sure we could find Ubuntu interns00:23
dmcglone1I know I say dumb ass off the wall shit, but I'd rather see someone laugh and be happy than anything else :-)00:24
dmcglone1paultag: I just pray you don't dump me in the river.. ;-)00:24
paultagdmcglone1: praying is useless >:D00:24
dmcglone1We should start a Ubuntu healthcare program. they will focus on things like isolation, carpel tunnel, Unit193's porn addition, and so on00:25
Unit193dmcglone1: How did I get that?00:26
dmcglone1Oh boy if I can't pray, I hope to hell I'm better by then00:26
dmcglone1LOL Unit19300:26
dmcglone1I don't know, just jivin with ya00:27
TheErkhullo00:29
dmcglone1Unit193: Don't feel bad, I sprained my wrist yesterday ;-)00:29
dmcglone1Hello TheErk00:29
dmcglone1I'm just waiting for Cheri703 to bite and kick my butt for this one!00:29
Unit193You can go too far sometimes... ( TheErk does it more than you do)00:30
Cheri703mmmmhm00:30
dmcglone1LOL00:31
dmcglone1Don't worry I say the same things about my crazy butt00:31
dmcglone1It's all in good clean fun thats all, not offense intended00:32
TheErkI do?00:41
TheErkWhat do i do?00:41
canthus13why do *I* get membership requests for the columbus google group>00:43
dmcglone1canthus13: is it for the Ubuntu one?00:44
canthus13no.00:47
canthus13just the columbus reloco google group.00:47
dmcglone1I see00:47
dmcglone1Anyone use linkedin?00:52
Unit193Did anyone know there was (invite only) #ubuntu-ohio ?00:55
dmcglone1no00:57
dmcglone1apparently since Oprah Winfery tv show is not gone, fans are accidentally sending their e-mails to Opera the web browser thing it's Operah Winfery01:00
dmcglone1Thinking it's Oprah Winfery that is01:00
Cheri703I recently signed up for linkedin01:05
Cheri703who owns #ubuntu-ohio?01:05
Cheri703I can ask the irc team if no one here knows01:05
Cheri703(I was on the phone and just now caught up :) )01:05
jgouldboo01:06
dmcglone1anyone know if there is an IRC plugin for kopete?01:06
jgouldcanthus13: because Brain left the group01:06
dmcglone1Hi jgould01:06
Unit193jacob01:07
Cheri703jacob owns #ubuntu-ohio?01:09
Unit193Founder: jacob01:09
Cheri703kk01:10
jgouldok,  we're going to go get dinner and I will be back in a few hours.  if you need me, hit me up on Google. (or Gtalk)01:13
Unit193Can I hit him up anyway? Even if I don't need him?01:14
Cheri703I say go for it01:15
Unit193Cheri703: http://paste.ubuntu.com/613532/01:15
Unit193I LOVE pastebinit and wished it worked in irssi (along with grep)01:16
Cheri703interesting01:16
Unit1931608PriceChild!n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pricechildops-#ubuntu-ohio2007-03-14 01:05:05.154258<reply>Help! jacobmp92, meatballhat, rrittenhouse, PWill or Vorian.6 <--- is how I found it01:17
Cheri703definitely01:17
TheErkfood.. good idea01:18
TheErklater peeps01:18
TheErk(peep peep)01:18
* Cheri703 is not made of marshmallow fluff01:18
* Cheri703 is fluffy, but not marshmallow fluffy01:18
* canthus13 smears Cheri703 with chocolate and sprinkles graham cracker crumbs all over.01:20
canthus13Now you're a s'more. :)01:20
* Cheri703 wouldn't be against that necessarily01:21
Cheri703>.>01:21
Cheri703<,<01:21
canthus13Hmm... :D01:21
dmcglone1anyone familiar with qmake?01:21
Cheri703*cough* I mean, gosh canthus13, that's horrible!01:21
canthus13Cheri703: Oh... GOt pics of Sully in Montana. :)01:27
Cheri703:)01:27
* canthus13 bout a spare from someone in great falls, got them to take pics of him around town. :)01:28
canthus13..bought.01:28
* canthus13 can't seem to type today. :(01:28
Cheri703:)01:28
dmcglone1apparently installing Kopete requires just about all of KDE. what a crock01:36
Unit193Why do you want Kopete? Why not Pidgin ;)01:38
canthus13...Why do we have a sign that advises us to take the stairs for better health? We don't *HAVE* an elevator in this building...01:40
canthus13Why pidgin? Just use smoke signals.01:40
dmcglone1I was going to try kopete because it supports all the protocols but apparently not IRC at the moment01:41
Unit193SMK! How ya doing?01:43
canthus13dmcglone1: Just do what the smart people do.  Use irssi.01:43
Unit193(I'm still too stinkin' lazy to get debian/Ubuntu mini on the Mac)01:43
skellatReading logs on irclogs.ubuntu.com trying to catch up...01:43
canthus13skellat: ...it's interesting.01:43
dmcglone1so I downloaded an IRC plugin for kopete, and when I went to install kopete it wanted to install almost the whole dang repository01:43
Unit193Crap! Now I'm going to look like an idiot on all kinds of levels!01:44
canthus13dmcglone1: Yup. HOw about that? A 200MB+ CHat client...01:44
dmcglone1tell me about it canthus1301:44
canthus13Unit193: You quit using irssi?01:44
Unit193canthus13: You kidding me? Why did you think that?01:44
Cheri703yo skellat01:45
Cheri703yeah...it was interesting01:45
dmcglone1well I  can't take this empathy anymore, it's just with this growing behavior01:45
Cheri703dmcglone1: try quassel :) there's a qt4 version if you don't need core/client01:46
Cheri703so it doesn't need kde01:46
canthus13Unit193: YOu mentioned looking like an idiot after I mentioned that irssi is what the smart peope use.01:46
canthus13*people01:46
dmcglone1I'm trying to find an all in one client Cheri703 :-(01:46
Cheri703yeah, quassel does all in one01:46
dmcglone1really?01:46
Cheri703ohhh01:46
Cheri703meaning IM too01:46
Unit193canthus13: Na. That was for him looking back in the logs01:46
Cheri703yes?01:47
dmcglone1yahoo, Aim, IRC and google video chat01:47
canthus13Unit193: Oh. :()01:47
Unit193finch + irssi01:47
Cheri703dmcglone1: video via the gmail page got some enhancements from gmail labs01:48
skellatPeople were THAT freaked out over e-mail volume earlier?  My goodness.  The things that happen while I'm out getting groceries and doing some cooking...01:48
paultagskellat: no, it's fine01:49
paultagskellat: it was one person01:49
paultagskellat: keep it up, this volume is good01:49
Cheri703I'm GLAD people are talking and participating01:49
paultag+100001:50
skellatpaultag: If anybody thought THAT was excessive, you should see the e-mail lists that power the realm of librarians.01:50
Cheri703yeah, it was like 3 lines in gmail :)01:50
Unit193Alpine doesn't do threads01:50
Unit193(I'm in all main anyways)01:51
Cheri703so use gmail :D01:51
skellatpaultag: A couple are on old-school LISTSERV and my subscription is set to INDEX so I can pick & choose.  There's also GMANE that creates an NNTP bridge if desired.01:51
paultagyar01:51
Unit193Cheri703: I use gmail, alpine and T-bird (not in any order)01:51
paultagwe should be better about tagging01:51
paultag[NEO] $SUBJECT01:52
* canthus13 tags paultag.01:52
paultagso you can filter out stuff with tags01:52
paultagCheri703: har har :)01:52
paultagdamn you tab complete01:52
canthus13but that would require filtering, which makes people cry.01:52
skellatpaultag: Is that part of mailman configuration visible?01:52
paultagsorry Cheri70301:52
paultagyou canthus13 :)01:52
Cheri703I think that All topics (unless SUPER specific) are relevant to the rest of the group. discussing how to handle NEO is bringing up topics that are important ideas for the whole group01:52
paultagskellat: well I was saying in the subject of emails, on the ohio ML01:52
paultagskellat: say like [NEO] $SUBJECT, [CBUS] $SUBJECT (and so on)01:53
paultagCheri703: I totally agree01:53
Cheri703when you already have [ubuntu-us-oh] that becomes a LONG subject line01:53
paultag+101:53
Cheri703especially when reading email  on phone or something01:53
skellatpaultag: I've got mail filing rules set up on Fastmail.fm to toss mail into different folders based on stuff like that01:53
paultagthat's what I brought up on the GSoC ML01:53
Cheri703you'd have no idea what it was actually about because it'd be super long01:53
paultagI don't like subjects longer then 80 chars01:53
paultagsomeone was making the same point I was making, and I was not having it that day01:54
paultagskellat: truth01:54
skellatpaultag: Does RFC822 specify an upper bound for subject line length?01:54
dmcglone1Cheri703: quassel is IRC only :-(01:54
paultagskellat: nope01:54
Cheri703yeah, I misunderstood at first01:54
Cheri703dmcglone1: google chat now does aim01:55
Cheri703so...you could get away with gmail window popout and an irc client :)01:55
Cheri703OR one browser window with gmail logged in and webchat :D01:55
dmcglone1I'll just go back to pidgon minus the video chat and use google or empathy for video chat :-/01:56
Unit193s/pidgon/pidgin01:56
dmcglone1pidgin poop01:56
dmcglone1;-)01:56
skellatAnybody have a view on the way the map looks so far in terms of population distribution?01:57
* Cheri703 hasn't looked at it since earlier01:57
* skellat is still surprised at how spread apart we all are01:57
dmcglone1link skellat01:58
skellathttp://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=206208735687321540096.0004a4313b0da325ca579&z=701:58
dmcglone1mine isn't there02:00
Unit193He removed you02:00
skellatWho removed who?02:00
Unit193j/k02:00
skellatCrap.02:00
* skellat smacks forehead02:00
skellatdmcglone1: You need a Google account to drop a pin.  I forgot about.  What general vicinity should I drop a pin at for you?02:01
dmcglone1lol Unit19302:01
Unit193I harass dmcglone1 all DAY!02:01
dmcglone1skellat I already did mine today and it says it needed approval02:02
skellatHunh.02:02
dmcglone1yeah02:02
skellatWas it approval for account creation, you mean?02:02
Unit193skellat: Without hounding you. Are you normally too busy to come on IRC?02:03
dmcglone1no, I already got an google account. maybe I did it wrong. do you have a link to the page02:03
skellatYeah.  The link above should've worked.02:04
dmcglone1I found it, I had to log in02:06
Cheri703urgh, working on wiki page -_-02:07
Unit193Cheri703: Sweet, but not fun...02:08
Unit193skellat: Was that answer for me?02:08
Cheri703yeah02:08
Cheri703I think it was to dmcglone102:09
* Unit193 checks Cheri703's wiki02:09
Cheri703it's not updated yet02:09
Cheri703it's still woefully out of date02:09
Unit193Better then mine...02:09
Cheri703meh02:09
Unit193s/then/than/ ?02:09
dmcglone1I click edit to add myself to the map and it takes me to a whole new map02:12
Cheri703I think than02:12
Cheri703dmcglone1: which edit are you clicking?02:12
Cheri703the one on the map or the one on the left by the text?02:12
Cheri703you want the one on the left02:12
skellatShould be the edit button near "Ubuntu Ohio Census"02:12
skellatThe blue edit text makes a new map02:12
dmcglone1Ah02:13
dmcglone1No wonder it didn't work earlier today, what an freakin idiot I am02:14
dmcglone1Ok I only see 1 edit button in the top right02:15
Cheri703refresh02:15
Cheri703canthus13 and I both had that happen02:15
dmcglone1found it :-)02:16
skellatIt could be worse.  I could've went with Frappr...02:17
dmcglone1done02:20
* skellat still marvels at the population distribution having a clump in Columbus and everybody else so spread out02:24
canthus13Pogo should be illegal.02:27
deejoePogo?02:28
deejoeoh, .com games, not Walt Kelly or the stick02:29
canthus13That idiotic game site that attracts the dumbest people in the world... and then when they have issues, they call *ME*!!02:29
deejoeoh, haha02:29
canthus13"I lost all my coins!!" bite me, old lady...02:29
deejoeI thought maybe you were addicted or something.02:29
dmcglone1brb going to go upstairs02:33
Cheri703hehe02:34
skellatGotta go...evening routine stuff to handle...02:45
Unit193Wow... Howdy jwb127503:14
Unit193(Who is he again? :) )03:14
Unit193jgould: Have you seen Stargate SG-1?03:19
dmcglone1Hi jwb127503:23
* dmcglone1 doesn't like sci-fi03:23
jwb1275Hi dmcglone103:23
jwb1275Hi all03:23
Unit193He ignored me...03:23
jwb1275sorry Unit193  i was busy putting down my pin03:24
Unit193jwb1275: I was just kidding!03:24
dmcglone1Ah I get that all the time, I figured it's because I talked my head off the night before03:24
jwb1275Did you all hear about the LOCO Map...   http://ur1.ca/4a7wb03:28
Cheri703I'm on it :)03:28
jwb1275i thought it was a great idea03:29
Cheri703jacob is going to see about getting it set up on the website03:29
Unit193Stuff happens fast on IRC03:30
Cheri703(if the website is ever back up and running ;) )03:30
jgouldUnit193: No I have not03:30
Unit193jgould: Your name reminds me of the bad guys on there...03:30
dmcglone1Unit193: it's like a gangster name huh? :-)03:31
Unit193dmcglone1: No03:31
jwb1275Cheri703:  I went to the website first, it looks like it is working.  The map on the website would be great!03:31
Cheri703oh, it wasn't working earlier today03:32
Cheri703ubuntu uk has an awesome map, I want one like theirs :)03:32
Unit193I looked it up...03:32
jwb1275Cheri703: are you the Cheri from Mansfield?03:33
Cheri703yep03:33
Unit193What's a -journal file??03:33
jwb1275Cheri703:  Did you go to UDS?03:34
dmcglone1You mean on a linux system Unit193?03:34
Cheri703yep03:34
Unit193dmcglone1: Yeah...03:34
jwb1275awesome  how was that?03:34
Cheri703AMAZING03:34
Cheri703(also, how did you know that?)03:34
dmcglone1Unit193: where in the directory structure is it located?03:35
jwb1275I heard a pod cast of an interview you did03:35
Cheri703ahh, ok03:35
jwb1275i try to keep up with the latest happenings03:35
dmcglone1Unit193: I'm suspecting it's a kernel file03:35
Unit193dmcglone1: Normal file (filename-journal03:35
Cheri703I'm always curious where people find out things about me :) I'm like the annoying box on signup pages "how did you hear about us? news site, search engine, other"03:35
Cheri703it was really cool, I learned SO MUCH03:36
dmcglone1Hmmm Unit19303:36
jwb1275did you get sponsored to go?03:36
Cheri703yeah03:36
dmcglone1Unit193: are you using kmail?03:37
Unit193dmcglone1: Nope (I killed the file anyway)03:37
dmcglone1because kmail has a personal journal, that could be it03:37
jwb1275where there any sessions that you remember that were really good,  I watch what i can on Youtube03:38
jwb1275I don't think they post all of them03:38
Cheri703hmm...some of the community roundtables were really interesting03:38
Cheri703you can listen to the audio03:38
Cheri703they record all of them, since they do live audio feeds03:38
jwb1275how?03:38
Cheri703video was only in certain rooms03:38
Cheri703let me check03:38
jgouldCheri703: you have one on accessibility?03:39
Cheri703yeah, there were a few03:39
Cheri703one on accessibility community stuff, and a few on other things03:39
Unit193http://mirrors.tumbleweed.org.za/uds-o/03:40
Unit193http://mirrors.tumbleweed.org.za/uds-o/03:40
Unit193...03:40
jgouldHeh03:41
jgouldCould be worse03:41
jgouldOnly downside to an ogg: My phone won't play...03:41
Cheri703you can convert them fairly easily afaik03:41
jwb1275Unit193: awesome thanks!03:41
Unit193jwb1275: Sure! charlie-tca linked me a few day ago03:42
jgouldI know.  I just like things simple... (Yeah, right.  If I did, I'd still be running the MacOS as my primary...)03:42
Unit193dmcglone1: That file was killing my bot when I said a factoid03:42
Unit193jgould: I was going to say EDUbuntu03:43
Unit193:D03:43
dmcglone1I see Unit193. what type of bot?03:43
jwb1275All: Thanks for the info, good talking to you all, but got to run my battery is about to die.03:44
jgouldHeh03:44
jgouldLAter jwb127503:44
Unit193ubottu clone (supybot, but I configured it a little different then they do)03:44
dmcglone1what's it's purpose?03:45
Unit193Dang... I didn't ask him if Akron was still alive...03:47
dmcglone1i googled it03:47
Unit193dmcglone1: When I made it, it was going to be in a channel I don't see me putting it in now03:47
Unit193dmcglone1: It would be fun to put it in here, but they wouldn't like it03:48
dmcglone1you should ask03:49
Unit193Too late, he done gone...03:49
Unit193Or ask if I can put the little guy in here?03:49
dmcglone1yeah03:50
dmcglone1never know till u ask03:50
Unit193He isn't a party bot if that's what you're thinking...03:50
Unit193If they wanted a bot, they could get a LoCo bot...03:50
dmcglone1lol no, just giving u encouragement03:51
Cheri703my wiki page is officially updated: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cheri703  I included my current "stump speech" for the election, though I will send it to the list as well03:55
Cheri703sent to list04:04
Unit193Cheri703: You spamming me again? ;)04:05
Cheri703yes, extensively04:05
jgouldHeh04:06
jgould The dog and is bone are annoying me right now04:10
Cheri703ah, yes *gnawgnawgnawgnawgnawgnawgnawgnawgnawgnawgnawgnawgnawgnawgnawgnawgnawgnaw*04:11
jgouldYes04:11
Cheri703http://clientsfromhell.net/post/5869649015/i-dont-know-quite-what-well-be-selling-yet04:14
jgouldHEh04:20
canthus13bleh. I'm in a weird position of loving the ubuntu community, wanting more people involved, but being embarrassed to show people the latest offerings and definitely not wanting to encourage someone to actually use ubuntu. :/04:21
Cheri703people are dumb04:21
Cheri703canthus13: read the almost last bit in my election thingy ;)04:21
Cheri703you can still encourage use of the old ones04:21
Cheri703that's kind of the beauty of it, there are TONS of possibilities04:22
canthus13the over 200 million users one?04:22
Cheri703before that04:22
canthus13The problem is, from what I can see, it's only getting worse.. not better.04:22
Unit193Xubuntu and Lubuntu look nice...04:23
canthus13We'll see, though.  I like 10.10 ok, and 10.04 is decent enough... so I've got 'til 2013 before I decide for good.04:23
canthus13Unit193: they do, but they aren't quite featureful enough for me...04:23
Unit193canthus13: What are you thinking of Zenix?04:23
jgouldMy servers will stay on 10.04 until 12.04 comes out04:23
canthus13Unit193: I'm liking Zenix.. but there's a critical issue for me.  There's no way to turn off 'raise on click'.04:23
canthus13jgould: I will never run ubuntu on a server... :/04:24
jgouldI will probably upgrade the laptop to 11.10 as it should do better in the support department...04:24
jgouldWhy canthus1304:24
canthus13jgould: ubuntu plases more emphasis on flash and pretty crap than stability.04:24
canthus13...places.04:24
canthus13I swear, I've forgotten how to type/spell/grammatificate today...04:24
jgouldI'm running server Ed. it works perfectly for what I'm using it for.04:26
canthus13jgould: that's fine for a desktop, I can deal with the occasional odd issue... but for a server, I refuse to trade bleeding edge for uptime and reliability.04:26
jgouldI have the uptime and reliabilty. Only time I haven't is when I've broken something.  (I'm good at that...)04:28
* canthus13 is still running Lenny on 2 of his 3 servers...04:28
jgouldwhich one was Lenny?  (Potato was 2.204:29
jgould)04:29
canthus13504:30
canthus13squeeze is running on the third.04:30
jgouldAh04:31
jgouldLat time I ran pure debian, I was runnign Potato or Woody...04:31
canthus13Heh. I'd probably never run it on a desktop...04:31
jgouldit was a server.  It handled our firewall..04:33
* Cheri703 is braindead now...updating wiki took thinking04:33
canthus13Heh.04:36
Cheri703I hate writing about myself04:37
Cheri703hate hate hate it04:37
Cheri703ah wunt mah nook04:39
Cheri7032 weeks is going to suck04:39
Cheri703for me and for you guys, because I will likely whine about it :)04:39
Cheri703sorries!04:39
* jgould hands Cheri703 a stone tablet04:40
Cheri703meh04:40
jgouldHeh04:42
Unit193< poltak_> No modern processors even support 64bit yet, so why would you even care unless you were running a supercomputer? :P04:42
* canthus13 doesn't understand the attraction to tablets. :04:42
canthus13:/04:42
Cheri703it's not a tablet04:42
Cheri703I have no use for a tablet04:42
canthus13Unit193: ...is that dude an idiot?04:42
Cheri703I'm getting the e-ink one04:42
jgouldWhere was that from Unit193 ?04:42
Unit193YES!04:42
canthus13Cheri703: I wouldn't mind an e-ink screen....04:42
Unit193#lubuntu04:42
canthus13Unit193: Woo!04:42
* canthus13 goes to troll.04:43
Cheri703canthus13: have you looked at the new nook?04:43
Cheri703it's SWEET04:43
jgouldE-ink is nice04:43
canthus13Cheri703: Not yet.04:43
* jgould has an e-ink device04:43
Unit193< poltak_> Unit193: Okay Tron :P04:43
canthus13Unit193: Bah. how do you renumber a window in irssi again?04:44
Unit193  /window num 304:44
Cheri703canthus13: touch e-ink, 6.5x5x.47, so it's teeny, reads epub files, so you can get library books, (and torrented books), various other awesome features04:44
canthus13Unit193: thanks.04:44
Unit193canthus13: No problem04:44
Cheri703jgould: I'm so looking forward to the e-ink04:45
Cheri703I have a bunch of ebooks that I have acquired in anticipation of getting the thing, and I'd like to read some, buuuut, I know I'll get a splitting headache really fast if I try to read them on here04:45
jgouldIt's nice04:45
Cheri703I spend a fair amount of time on/waiting for buses, so it will be super handy there as well :)04:45
canthus13Cheri703: Good reason.. I'm not stuck on a bus anymore... :)04:46
* canthus13 spent a couple of years riding the bus.. it sucked. :/04:46
jgouldWe're imbiciles<SP>?  Did you guys know this?04:47
Unit193I knew I was...04:47
Unit193canthus13: You going to stick in there and watch me make an idiot of myself?04:47
Cheri703?04:47
Unit193Cheri703: #lubuntu thing04:48
canthus13sure.. I might join in, too...04:48
Cheri703ah04:48
Cheri703canthus13: we save SO MUCH MONEY by not having a car04:48
Cheri703we generally can go a month or more on $30 for BOTH of us for transportation04:48
canthus13Cheri703: I lost soooooo much sanity by not having a car. :(04:48
Cheri703husband doesn't especially like it04:48
Cheri703but it's not like we're going to a job or anything04:48
jgouldI would go insane not having a car. (but then again I think our bus system sucks...)04:49
Cheri703masnfield's is surprisingly decent04:49
canthus13Cheri703: wow... Manfield's pretty small.04:50
jgouldMansfield is also a lot smaller than columbus04:50
* canthus13 wouldn't think the buses would be any bit usable.04:50
Cheri703yeah canthus13 I was pleasantly surprised04:50
Cheri703they're not amazing, and they stop running after 5:30, and they don't run on weekends (which sucks), BUT for the times that they DO run, they're inexpensive, and they get to pretty much all relevant parts of town04:50
canthus13Toledo is easily 6 times the size of mansfield and seems to be making a mission of ruining public transportation. :/04:51
jgouldHell,  our paratransit down here sucks as well...04:51
jgouldColumbus already did it...04:51
canthus13jgould: we have pretty decent paratransit here...04:51
Cheri703also they're clean, the drivers are nice, and there are surprisingly few obtrusive crazy people (there are crazy/stinky/whatever people, but few obtrusive ones)04:51
Cheri703paratransit?04:51
jgouldours wouldn't be bad if it has grown with the city...04:51
canthus13Cheri703: disabled transportation.04:51
Cheri703gotcha04:51
Cheri703every single mansfield bus has a ramp and a spot for wheelchair(s)04:52
jgouldRequired by Federal Law.  they don't say how it has to work, just that it has to be04:52
Cheri703they do also have the van-like buses as well04:52
canthus13but the more ridership goes up around here, the more they cut routes.04:52
Cheri703it's usable, they use them all the time04:52
Cheri703they're pretty sweet actually, they fold out the main door and right back in04:52
jgouldthat' sthe same thing they do here, canthus1304:52
canthus13Cheri703: Our buses have that, but paratransit does door-to-door around here.  you just call to schedule your rides.04:52
Cheri703yeah, they have that as well04:53
jgouldSame down here, canthus13 and they take forever04:53
jgould(and seemingly put one person on a bus...)04:53
dmcglone1I'm out night all04:53
jgouldWhen my wife was working, she had two people that worked with her that lived in the same building, they would have two busses show up for them... It's like do you not try to combine trips to save money?04:54
canthus13jgould: Seriously? That's screwed up.04:55
jgouldYeah04:55
Cheri703it may depend on when they call and the scheduling system used04:55
jgouldI don't care.  that's a waste.04:55
Cheri703if it's a regularly scheduled thing, then yes04:55
jgouldI see me adding my IRC nick to the list caused others to do the same... :D04:55
jgouldDailey.  some days they will be on one bus, others not...  they be morons04:56
canthus13jgould: I always put my nick on stuff.04:56
Cheri703I added my town so that you can know where I am without actually typing it. my nick is reasonably easy to decipher04:56
Cheri703*without actually clicking it04:56
* Cheri703 will be lurking, going to read a DTB as they say (dead tree book)04:56
Cheri703highlight me (use full nick) if you need me04:57
jgouldPeople still use dead tree?04:57
jgouldXD04:57
canthus13Unit193: Heh... poltek_ is about to get owned...05:12
canthus13err.. poltak_05:12
Unit193Yep! This isn't the first time he has been annoying...05:13
canthus13Unit193: there. op yourself up. :)05:13
Unit193canthus13: Thanks! Done05:14
* jgould waits for it...05:14
Unit193Same...05:15
jgouldIn my client for the Mac, when someone got kicked, it would sound like an explosion...05:15
jgouldDid he ignore jmardsen?05:16
canthus13yep.05:18
Unit193jgould: Yep! he is one of the head devs... (can be a little annoying..)05:18
jgouldpoltak is one of the head devs for Lubuntu?05:18
Unit193NO! jmar05:18
jgouldOk05:18
jgouldpoltak didn't seem to give a hoot about the COC05:19
Unit193jgould: Search your logs for poltak? ( bioterror is the head support guy BTW)05:19
Unit193I'm sad now...05:20
jgouldWhy?05:20
Unit193There are not doing anything... :(05:21
jgouldMaybe he saw the +o and decided that it was time to just shut up and go back to work... (or it's really going down in a PM05:22
* Unit193 asked bioterror05:23
Unit193That just made me too happy!05:31
canthus13I haven't seen anything fun since I told the guy trying to convince people to install his malware server on #shellium that he would have better luck in #freenode...05:32
jgouldThat made me happy as well.05:32
Unit193Was I too quick with the \o/ ? :D05:33
jgouldI wihs I knew why there was lag between my laptop and the server... we're on the same lan, (laptop is on a 54mbit connection and (802.11G) and the server is hardwired into a 100mbit port....05:33
canthus13eh?05:33
canthus13what made you happy?05:34
jgouldwatching the guy get kicked...05:35
canthus13jgould: Something else sucking up bandwidth?05:35
* canthus13 loves his bandwidth graphing in DD-WRT. :)05:35
jgouldI'm pulling down the UDS audio files, but I could be doing nothing and have the same problem05:36
canthus13Odd.05:36
canthus13Tried rebooting your router?05:36
* jgould glares at it and then checks the tracking on the one that went back to Cisco05:38
jgouldIt's an Airport Extreme.  It has it's own... Issues.05:38
jgouldI'll be back in a bit.  Going to get milk and like stuff05:46
Unit193Anyone going to get this party started? Or are we waiting on jgould?06:53
Unit193;)06:53
jgouldAryos eiyre07:04
jgoulder07:04
jgouldstupid router07:04
Unit193jgould: You're back! Welcome back!07:07
jgouldThank you!07:08
* jgould eats a block of parmasean cheese07:08
* jgould upgrades his brain07:20
Unit193Man I wish you could do that...07:21
jgouldHeh07:21
jgouldI hate not feeling well...07:25
Unit193What are you down with?07:25
* BiosElement thinks everyone here must be a zombie for being awake at 2am :P07:34
_bbbvegan zombie07:34
_bbbgraaaains07:34
Unit193BiosElement! You're back!07:34
jgouldI don't think dinner agreed with me.07:34
BiosElementHah, yes I am07:34
* jgould needs more screen real estate, but doesn't feel like moving from the couch...07:35
Unit193BiosElement: Did you catch this afternoon?07:35
BiosElementWhat was up?07:36
jgouldIs there anyone that didn't?07:36
jgouldWow07:36
jgouldI guess so07:36
BiosElementhah07:36
BiosElementI got to fix a win computer for 7 hours today >.>07:36
jgouldsounds like windows...07:36
Unit193I haven't seen you for a few days07:37
BiosElementYeah, I've been lazy about loading quassel heh07:37
Unit193Did you toss it out the window? ;)07:37
BiosElementYa know, I nearly did07:37
BiosElementOh and if anyone is curious, windows somehow nuked the drive.07:37
jgouldthat soudns about right..07:38
jgouldis it possible to reinstall windows without wiping the drive yet (and not have the previous install fuck with the new one?)07:39
BiosElementjgould: No, no it's not.07:39
BiosElementYeah, the data was a loss too, I couldn't back anything up. >.<07:39
jgouldNot good...07:39
BiosElementTypical of windows and why I don't trust NTFS partitions. >.>07:40
jgouldAt least the Mac OS can be reinstalled and not mess with much of anything (and it will look the same becaue the prefs are stored in the User's home dir)07:40
BiosElementTrue07:41
BiosElementI still find it amusing though that it just randomly died >.<07:42
Unit193You know what the error msg was?07:42
Unit193Unmountable Partition?07:43
jgouldit wasn't as simple as 'this is windows and I'm gonna die now' was it?07:43
jgouldXD07:43
BiosElementYep, and I tried the NTFS repair tricks via ubuntu, no such luck.07:43
Unit193I had that once!07:43
Unit193(Fixing a friends computer)07:44
Unit193It may be a Win7 bug...07:44
BiosElementhah Nope, this was XP. And I think it's more a NTFS issue07:45
jgouldIsn't Win 7 a bug?07:45
BiosElementIsn't windows a bug?07:45
Unit193The stupid LP bug#1?07:45
jgouldI don't think that any version of windows ever actually makes it out of beta...07:45
BiosElementReminds me, Win8 coming next year apparently07:46
jgouldI heard hte board wants to get rid of Balmer for that ocomment...07:47
BiosElementHeh, I'm not worried really07:47
BiosElementNo matter what they do, nothing will remedy the fact that it's lipstick on a pig. >.<07:48
Unit193Isn't Win8 supposed to have some odd user interface?07:48
BiosElementI don't really follow Win news, I have no idea07:48
Unit193BiosElement: XP or Unity?07:48
jgouldHasn't the last 2 versions of Windows had some odd uer interface?07:48
BiosElementUnity is more like the pig on the lipstick :P07:49
BiosElementjgould: Eh, not really. It's really been just a rip of KDE's interface since vista07:50
jgouldHeh BiosElement.  Very true.  I actually thought it was the other way around when I installed Kubuntu.  That they had made KDE look more like vista07:54
BiosElementMost people think that, but KDE actually had it first from all I've seen.07:55
BiosElementIt's kinda a moot point, but still somewhat amusing.07:55
Unit193Guess who is back in #lubuntu! (And is on mute)08:00
BiosElementDo we wanna know?08:01
Unit193jgould and canthus13 know08:01
Unit193Poltak08:01
BiosElementSounds exciting :P08:02
Unit193He's an idiot... Take a look at the logs...08:02
BiosElementHow exciting >.>08:03
jgouldHeh08:09
jgouldWould it be wrong to say hey to him?08:09
Unit193Since he can't say anything back? I would bet he'll PM you...08:10
jgouldYEah08:11
BiosElementHmm wow...I think the Minecraft community is officially worse then the Facepunch community. *sighs* I had hoped I'd never see the like..08:12
Unit193I've still not played08:13
BiosElementBahh08:15
jgouldI don't see the point08:16
Unit193BiosElement: Do you trust CACert.org?08:16
BiosElementNever heard of it.08:17
jgouldI understand patents, but when they stagnate developent and innovation, development and innovation should overrule the patent.  Also patent hodling firms should be illegal...08:19
BiosElementPatents are stupid for software and pretty stupid for everything else08:19
jgouldor thinks like 'in app purchasing...' Lodsys is now going after andriod developer as well as iOS developers...08:20
BiosElementI saw that, I blame apple though for waiting so long to step in.08:20
Unit193How about patents on body parts? Or how to do tests?08:21
jgouldApple doesnt' just jump in on things unless they have a firm grasp on them08:21
jgouldI hereby patent the right arm and hand mechinsim08:22
jgould:D08:22
Unit193BiosElement: I would have thought you would be in #kubuntu-offtopic or #kubuntu08:22
* jgould removes his brain08:26
BiosElementHah nah, I don't usually bother watching major channels08:30
jgouldwow I just cleaned up my inbox on gmail..08:31
jgouldwent from about 200 messags in the inbox to 30 or so..08:34
jgouldI need to remap the command keys to control and the control keys to command...08:37
BiosElementYeash08:37
Unit193jgould has been trying to get *ubuntu working on his Mac (And having so many issues...)08:39
jgouldActually, Ubuntu is working very well.  It's the two other *ubuntus (X and L) that I want to run that don't08:40
jgouldThat's where going to a UH could have been useful: This is what it's doing... *demonstrate* any ideas?08:41
jgouldbut no, the thing is in a pretty stupid locaion..08:42
Unit193jgould: Ubuntu works fine? (Did it work to install l/xubuntu-desktop?)08:44
jgouldI can't control tap to click in X/Lubuntu-desktop08:45
jgouldEven under Ubuntu, I still don't have complete functionality...  Wifi's still an issue, suspend is flaky adn I will occasionally have problems when I log in where I'll launch an app (say, firefox) and it's like gnome will die, and I'll get dropped back to GDM even though I jsut logged in08:50
jgouldUnit193: Remember how Brian said that there was a parking garage across the street from the 11th Ave Panera?08:53
jgouldthere isn't onw08:55
jgoulder one08:55
BiosElementThere isn't? I recall seeing one nearby that area too.08:56
Unit193jgould: Nice!08:56
jgouldThe closest one I could find with access to High street was three blocks away at the Ohio Union.08:58
BiosElementHas anyone suggested alternatives?09:00
jgouldI was looking at a panera in grandview, but it may have the same issue with parking.09:00
jgouldPersonally, I'd prefer the panera by my house, but that's inconveinent if you don't live on this end of town09:02
BiosElementI'm of the opinion that the current location is a pretty decent one. Parking is a bit of an issue but there 'is' some and it's easy to get to via bus anywhere in columbus really. The time however might not be ideal.09:03
jgouldwhat about the Panera up the road in Clintonville09:03
jgouldstill on the 2, and it has it's own parking lot09:04
BiosElementjgould: Actually, assuming we're looking at the same place, that'd be closer to me. >.>09:06
Unit193BiosElement: How is OLF looking for you?09:07
BiosElementAhh, me and Jon still need to discuss things, I'm hoping to make it to the next UbuHour and bring that up.09:08
BiosElementjgould: What's the address for that Panera?09:08
jgouldBiosElement: I'm thinking the one at 4519 High09:08
jgouldCols, 4321409:08
BiosElementYep, It's the same. That'd work09:08
BiosElementIt's got parking you say?09:08
jgouldI was just pulling that up to give you the address09:09
BiosElementhah, thanks jgould ^_^09:09
jgouldLet he fly over with Google and I'll tell ya, give me one sec09:09
BiosElementNo need, I found ti09:09
BiosElementJust wanted to double check. ^_^09:09
BiosElementWell I'd support moving UbuntuHour there, if others don't have any objections.09:10
BiosElementIt's still on major bus lines, easy enough to get too from campus as well, apparently has parking and might not be quite so busy.09:10
jgouldYes it does... A parking lot for a church behind it09:10
jgouldI find that busy in a panera is hit or miss09:11
BiosElementOh, yeah. That's a great location. I was just there yesterday haha09:11
BiosElementTrue, but on Campus it's usually a hit hit :P09:12
jgouldLOL09:12
BiosElementAny thoughts on the time?09:13
jgould7PM would be better than 6:3009:14
BiosElementPerhaps. I know the time thing has been moved around a few tmies09:17
jgouldyou type like me... :)09:17
BiosElementAt 4am, yes I do09:19
jgouldHeh09:19
jgouldI type like that all the time09:19
BiosElementUgh, what's with all the hostility on the mailing list? >.<09:20
Unit193BiosElement: Brian came in here too...09:20
BiosElementEh?09:21
jgouldHeh09:21
BiosElementWow...yeah, that's a bit much.09:22
Unit193jgould, Cheri703 and myself went and hid :P09:22
jgouldLOL09:23
BiosElementReading through this, the passive aggressive nonsense isn't helpful.09:23
Unit193I liked that idea... I should do it again!09:26
jgouldwhat idea?09:27
BiosElementMeh, this drama is stupid, I'm too tired to try to figure out what's up.09:28
jgouldHe was upset because we were utilizing the ML and generating stuff for him to look at09:29
BiosElementAs far as I can tell, both had attitudes.09:29
Unit193jgould: The idea of hiding out in another channel :D09:29
jgouldyeah, but it's a mailing list, there are going to be things taht don't apply to you so you just ignore them or delete them.  I am on lists that generate more email than I can read some days...09:31
BiosElementMeh, I don't really appreciate either of their arguments to be honest.09:32
jgouldI agree with what Cheri said though09:33
BiosElementI don't, actually.09:34
jgouldhmmm... I wish that I could remember this damn password09:34
Unit193passw0rd?09:35
jgouldnope.  when this account was created I was only using one password or another.  neither is letting me in09:36
BiosElementjgould: Be sure to send that location idea to the mailing list btw.09:41
jgouldI'm going to.  working another issue09:43
BiosElementAight, that's fine. I'm off to sleep...for 3 hours.09:43
jgouldHeh09:46
Unit193Good idea...09:47
BiosElementNighty night. ^_^09:48
jgouldwhat is sleep?09:53
Unit193I don't know...09:54
jgouldwow...  5037 messages in a pop account..10:05
jgouldright now, the password is password...10:09
jgouldI havent' touched this account since 2007 at the earliest10:10
jgouldCan you use diff to compare two directoreis?12:13
Derath-SrvrHi all13:06
Unit193Howdy Derath-Srvr14:27
Unit193Yay for not sleeping! (And for timeouts)14:27
Derath-Srvrlol14:32
* Cheri703 wasn't intending to be passive aggressive yesterday...14:53
canthus13Cheri703: Meh. don't worry about it.15:00
Cheri703:/15:07
thafreakjgould: yes you can use diff to compare dirs...it's diff -r or -R I forget15:15
Unit193It's -r15:16
thafreakwhat's funny, is some commands let you use both interchangably...15:18
thafreakmakes it hard to keep them all straight15:18
Unit193thafreak: Yep! Some/mostly, -R is reverse (You would know this, being better at linux than I)15:20
Unit193Wow... 5:~30-9 and I'm not that bad off15:48
thafreakAnyone ever hear anything about duplicati?15:57
thafreakhttp://code.google.com/p/duplicati/15:57
thafreakseems like it's a C# clone of duplicity...so it runs native on windows15:58
thafreakbeen looking for something to backup my winblows lusers....15:58
thafreakAnyone interested in something like rsync, but for block devices instead of files?16:01
Cheri703anyone want to rent a house in mansfield? The one next door to me is for rent16:59
Cheri703and before you ask, yes, I AM an awesome neighbor ;)17:00
Unit193Heh...17:06
canthus13Cheri703: That's a bit of a commute for me... :/17:11
Cheri703perhaps17:12
Unit193jgould: My sister said you REALLY have to watch Stargate SG118:11
Unit193Or the movie (Just don't watch the pilot)18:12
thafreakYes, I would agree...watch all of SG1...including the SG1 movies...18:20
Unit193thafreak: Look at his name!!18:21
thafreakoh haha I get it18:21
Unit193I've been thinking that for the longest time!18:22
Derath-Srvrlol18:32
Unit193http://www.motifake.com/index.php?start=13548219:51
Cheri703http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9Tp0B9QLQA19:54
Unit193The annoying thing about the LoCo survey, it assumes you don't have different configurations per computer (One dual-boots, the other doesn't)19:54
canthus13Unit193: Eh? the pilot is the only episode with nudity!19:55
thafreakhttp://www.roadkilltshirts.com/AFTER-MONDAY-AND-TUESDAY-EVEN-THE-CALENDAR-SAYS-WTF-FUNNY-T-SHIRT-P12633.aspx19:57
deejoeso it does19:57
Cheri703so it turns out the cnc course is actually going to be a welding course :) which is actually more useful in other ways20:10
Unit193Cheri703: Good move on getting your LoCo council application out first. (Warning: This isn't an endorsement nor a criticism of the aforementioned candidate ;D)20:14
Cheri703heh, thanks :)20:14
Cheri703but that gives him a chance to work from what I've said :)20:15
Unit193It is both good and bad for you20:15
Unit193All he has to do is !! And I'm the podcast guy ;)20:15
Unit193"Skype Issues Software Fix For Windows and Mac Users"20:19
canthus13Cheri703: If he gets scuba certification, he could weld oil rigs for 100k a year... :)20:39
Cheri703hmmmmmm20:39
* canthus13 wishes he had gone into welding and scuba..20:39
canthus13A high school friend of mine is doing it in Louisiana... makes a killing, only works 2 weeks a month.20:39
Cheri703dang20:40
canthus13Yup. 2 weeks on the rig, 2 weeks off, so he's away from home for 2 weeks at a time.. but he gets to scuba dive for a living, and rides a helicopter to and from work. :)20:45
Cheri703nice20:48
* Cheri703 has already told him that he WILL be building a recumbent trike for her20:48
Cheri703http://atomiczombie.com/main.aspx?click=plans20:48
canthus13http://www.hdhumor.com/2011/01/facebook-apocalypse-avoided.html20:49
canthus13Awesome chick. :)20:49
Cheri703I like the "sooo does this mean you can't drive me to the airport?" comment on the one where she's charging the camera :)20:53
canthus13:D20:54
Unit193http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2011/05/27/swanky-accessories-for-your-favorite-geek-girl/ <--- Why geeks don't get dates21:01
Cheri703we are far too amused by the domino's pizza tracker21:04
Cheri703Unit193: actually, from what I understand, several of the women in U-W think that jewelry is pretty awesome21:04
Unit193They are geeky girls, right?21:05
Cheri703yep21:05
Cheri703it does say "for your favorite geek girl"21:05
Unit193Now only to find one... ;)21:06
Cheri703they're out there in greater numbers than people think21:07
Cheri703they just keep quiet because they get crap from other people through high school and such21:07
Unit193It was more a joke than anything else...21:09
Unit193Computer people do stay in the back more than others21:09
canthus13The USB drive is overkill...21:17
Unit193Old as heck: http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/23/keyboard-infused-pants-make-it-okay-to-grab-your-crotch/21:23
canthus13I want those... :)21:23
Unit193Yeah....21:24
* canthus13 has a roll-up keyboard... Pretty neat for smacking people around.21:24
Cheri703hehe21:29
canthus13Beh. I'm not liking this sudden separate mailing lists idea. It's going to discourage smaller relocos from even bothering to communicate.21:48
Unit193I don't think we need one for hers ^^21:49
Cheri703agreed canthus1321:59
Unit193Howdy hoho, dmcglone122:00
dmcglone1Hi Unit193, I got the stuff we were talking about last night just about done, gotta work out a bug in it though22:01
Unit193dmcglone1: I thought it was more of a side/fun project...22:01
dmcglone1I just read the E-Mail from Gilbert and I'm done.22:01
dmcglone1it was, it only took me about an hour :-)22:02
Unit193Now I just need to find the rest of the lists...22:02
dmcglone1the only problem I'm having with my code is it's excluding row 0 from the result set22:03
Cheri703dmcglone1: done with what?22:15
Unit193Cheri703: He was converting an irc thing to web22:15
Cheri703ah, k. he'd said he saw the email from gilbert and was done, so was wondering22:15
Unit193Done with the LoCo ;)22:16
Cheri703:/22:17
Unit193Man... What is UP with the Ubuntu server/wiki?22:19
canthus13Unit193: Crappy wiki software.22:20
canthus13last I heard, the wiki was approaching the maximum number of articles... mebbe they hacked it to support more articles...22:21
Unit193I wouldn't call this "supporting more"22:21
Cheri703did I miss smk's platform being posted to the list?22:27
Unit193I don't think I did...22:28
Cheri703gilbert's email said both have been posted...22:29
TheErkHola22:32
Unit193Thats not who we are looking for...22:32
dmcglone1Cheri703: me?22:39
dmcglone1Yes, I'm not joining up with yet another list, I've got enough to deal with and isn't that what the current mailing list is for :-/22:40
Cheri703yeah dmcglone1 I don't  think there should be individual lists, but *shrug* if the majority thinks there should, then fine, but if the majority thinks the list is the list and that's what the list is for, then...go with that22:48
TheErkI am far too confused about the lists to care.22:54
TheErk:-D22:54
dmcglone1Unit193: bug fixed, want me to send you the source?22:55
Unit193Sure!22:55
TheErkI'm outta here peeps.. have fun.22:56
dmcglone1Cheri703: it seems in order to get info for the columbus meet, I'll have to join, so that excludes me22:56
dmcglone1Unit193: pm me your e-mail address22:56
Unit193dmcglone1: Couldn't you just upload to mediafire? Or would you rather email?22:57
Cheri703dmcglone1: I guess to contribute to the discussion, because later the info will be put on the list22:57
dmcglone1Hmmm mediafire?22:58
dmcglone1ah heck you can download from my U1 account :-)22:58
canthus13Yay.. Modern day witch trials!  http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20110526/sc_livescience/seismologiststriedformanslaughterfornotpredictingearthquake22:58
dmcglone1hang on I gotta grab the db and then zip it all up22:59
canthus13bah.  Forgot to transfer my key to my new install. :(23:02
dmcglone1Unit193: http://ubuntuone.com/p/w0T/23:03
Unit193dmcglone1: Sweet! Got it23:04
dmcglone1you will have to import the db in the database folder and put your db username and password in the file "mysql.inc.php"23:04
dmcglone1brb gonna eat dinner23:05
dmcglone1Unit193: some enhancements are needed to make it work and look better, but nonetheless it works as intended :-)23:17
Unit193dmcglone1: Any way to get it to use SQLite DB?23:17
dmcglone1not unless you rewrite the code :-(23:20
Unit193Ok, I'll play with it, see if I can get it working!23:21
dmcglone1all you should need to do is use mysql23:22
dmcglone1mysql is much more powerful than SQLite23:22
canthus13dmcglone1: Which means you can screw up in bigger and better ways!23:29
* jgould wanders in, looking for a coffee pot23:33
dmcglone1lol canthus1323:41
dmcglone1switched over to pidgen23:55
jgouldYou switched over to a birdie?23:59

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