| vychune_afk | o/ | 00:10 |
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| wrst | chris4585: yes i think f15 is great and that's a pretty much vanilla G3 install | 00:12 |
| chris4585 | wrst, yeah, I liked it very much so, too bad fedora was able to offer this experience and ubuntu wasn't | 00:13 |
| chris4585 | I think ubuntu went with the very wrong choice | 00:13 |
| chris4585 | but who knows what unity will be like in a year or two from now | 00:14 |
| wrst | chris4585: i think for now, but by the time the next LTS comes out I think will really be the indicator | 00:14 |
| chris4585 | yes! | 00:14 |
| wrst | really 11.04 is just a test to see what needs to be done the LTS to me is the big deal if it sucks then "Houston we have a problem" or Isle of Man or whatever the case is | 00:15 |
| chris4585 | I honestly think its pretty obvious what needs to be fixed, the whole way categories were displayed was very uncomfortable to see and work with | 00:16 |
| chris4585 | gnome 3 really hit the spot with the way it did it | 00:16 |
| chris4585 | if gnome 3 had a few more options (by default) like global menu or to have the sidebar always show that would be great | 00:17 |
| chris4585 | its like both projects could have what it takes.. | 00:17 |
| wrst | chris4585: i really don't like the global menu so much personally | 00:19 |
| wrst | its ok but I think that G3 with all the space they have the top of the bar have enough room for 10 menus and I think they should tweak that actually | 00:20 |
| chris4585 | I actually like it, that and the window controls | 00:20 |
| wrst | I see the use of it i guess its more I'm not used to it really | 00:21 |
| chris4585 | it doesn't really affect me either way, I got use to the left windows controls in a week or so | 00:23 |
| chris4585 | I like them that way now | 00:24 |
| chris4585 | I find it annoying using windows now though since the controls are on the right... | 00:24 |
| wrst | chris4585: that doesn't bother me at all I use my wifes mac xp at work ubuntu they are just window controls i either go to one side or the other | 00:28 |
| chris4585 | well at first it bothered me | 00:28 |
| vychune | o/ | 00:39 |
| vychune | hey guys | 02:17 |
| vychune | JUST STARTED MY OWN CHAN!!!!!!!!!!!! | 02:41 |
| wrst | good morning everyone | 14:01 |
| cyberanger | morning wrst | 14:14 |
| wrst | morning cyberanger how you doing? | 14:16 |
| cyberanger | not too bad | 14:16 |
| cyberanger | further optimizing squid | 14:16 |
| wrst | cool cyberanger i'm working on my laptop as I have a chance | 14:18 |
| cyberanger | nice | 14:18 |
| cyberanger | I've found some Content Distrubition Networks (like Akamai, for example) make Caching pointless, unfortunately | 14:19 |
| cyberanger | which is a real pain, you get the same youtube video, same Windows Update, but they push it out as a unique URL each time, and it's either cached or it's not | 14:20 |
| cyberanger | but if it is, it will never be used twice | 14:20 |
| cyberanger | making it a real mess | 14:21 |
| cyberanger | wrst: what is it your doing to the laptop? | 14:22 |
| wrst | cyberanger: have ubuntu setup now getting arch setup then going to de bloat win 7 some | 14:22 |
| cyberanger | de bloat windows, hrm | 14:22 |
| cyberanger | Does 'rm -Rf /windows' not work? ;-) | 14:23 |
| cyberanger | seems really sucessful here | 14:23 |
| wrst | well you know get some out if possible and the battery works well did a install of arch all on battery because i forgot to plug in | 14:23 |
| cyberanger | lol, for Arch I beleive that | 14:24 |
| cyberanger | for Ubuntu, no way | 14:24 |
| cyberanger | and winDOS, forget it | 14:24 |
| wrst | well about 2 hours with arch you do a net install, well you should atleast | 14:25 |
| cyberanger | (I know some cannot go without windows, I had to eat the cake once too, then I learned why it tasted so bad for cake) | 14:25 |
| cyberanger | nice, all 2 hours on battery? | 14:27 |
| wrst | yes but looks like i will be doing it again! | 14:29 |
| wrst | for some reason arch won't login i have the user/pass right but it immediately logs out | 14:29 |
| chris4585 | wrst, can you run grub prompt and at the end of the kernel line add exec=/bin/bash | 14:30 |
| chris4585 | if you do so you should boot into root logged in | 14:31 |
| chris4585 | worth a shot anyway | 14:31 |
| cyberanger | wrst: yeah, recovery mode it | 14:31 |
| wrst | will give that a go thank you :) | 14:31 |
| cyberanger | if you can figure out the logout bit, might be less time (esp if you were to reinstall and have the same issue) | 14:32 |
| cyberanger | ok, I think I've got this small CDN issue figured out | 14:33 |
| chris4585 | man I shouldn't of drank that monster last night, it took forever to get to sleep | 14:33 |
| cyberanger | Monster vs Vodka, wonder what would win there | 14:33 |
| chris4585 | well vodka makes me sleepy | 14:34 |
| wrst | no dice i will reinstall on AC power this time :) | 14:34 |
| chris4585 | wrst, that sucks | 14:34 |
| wrst | chris4585: not too bad I'm at work just installing anyway as I have time won't delay much :) | 14:35 |
| wrst | I know I set up root, I have been stupid and not done that before :) | 14:35 |
| chris4585 | lol | 14:35 |
| cyberanger | um, well perhaps this is my security mindset, but isn't setting root up dumb | 14:37 |
| cyberanger | compared to sudo | 14:37 |
| chris4585 | well with arch you kind of have to | 14:37 |
| wrst | cyberanger: I eventually set up sudo but arch is designed to use root | 14:37 |
| chris4585 | I believe.. | 14:38 |
| wrst | chris4585: you are correct | 14:38 |
| chris4585 | yeah I do the same | 14:38 |
| wrst | well chris4585 you could install sudo and set it up before you reboot but I wouldn't dare | 14:38 |
| chris4585 | yeah, well I gotta go, bbl | 14:38 |
| cyberanger | wrst: so was debian (they tweaked the installer that 6 uses) | 14:40 |
| cyberanger | but once sudo is going fine, I tweak the shadow for root | 14:40 |
| cyberanger | and same effect | 14:40 |
| cyberanger | worked in arch and debian, pre-6 | 14:40 |
| wrst | cyberanger: yes I never use root after the install | 15:03 |
| * wrst attempts it again | 15:11 | |
| wrst | woot I'm in! | 15:13 |
| electricus | wrst: woot indeed. that looks awesome | 15:18 |
| wrst | electricus: I'm liking this having something that needs no additional proprietary drivers added :) | 15:20 |
| electricus | that is awesome | 15:21 |
| electricus | i thiink i need to get that adn sell my other camera | 15:21 |
| electricus | somebody on amazon says the video is not clear.. what? | 15:24 |
| electricus | this looks great even with low light | 15:28 |
| electricus | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TG5OPRbqcY | 15:28 |
| electricus | the guy does say it has horrible battery life though | 16:00 |
| cyberanger | wrst: good | 16:41 |
| cyberanger | and yey, electricus arrived just in time | 16:41 |
| cyberanger | ;-) | 16:41 |
| cyberanger | wish the store_url program in squid was simplier to grasp | 16:41 |
| cyberanger | then again, I've learned all the simple stuff, time to press on | 16:42 |
| cyberanger | anyone here dealt with squid in detail | 16:47 |
| cyberanger | aware of the storeurlrewrite properties? | 16:47 |
| electricus | cyberanger: i've never set up squid from scratch, but i've been using it in clearos for a few years and now untangle | 20:05 |
| electricus | squid is for caching mostly isn't it? | 20:06 |
| electricus | and dansguardian for content filtering | 20:06 |
| wrst | electricus: you are the man if you can set up dansguardian :) | 20:07 |
| electricus | not really.. the distro just does it for you :-) | 20:08 |
| wrst | oh ok :) | 20:08 |
| wrst | I've tried, I just used opendns to filter | 20:08 |
| electricus | if you wanted more control .. you could set up untangle if you got an extra box to run it on | 20:09 |
| electricus | it's my fav when it comes to firewall/proxy | 20:09 |
| electricus | the lite (free) version does everything you need | 20:09 |
| wrst | is it debian based still electricus? | 20:10 |
| electricus | what i like about it above and beyone opendns is the virus/phishing/spyware/ad blocking and such | 20:10 |
| electricus | eys | 20:10 |
| wrst | I tried it out at one time | 20:10 |
| electricus | yes | 20:10 |
| wrst | ok that would be within the spirit of ubuntu-us-tn then :D | 20:10 |
| electricus | yeah! | 20:13 |
| electricus | i think i'm just going to start hanging out in here rather than #cooklug | 20:13 |
| electricus | i'm sick of Igneous always being a 'you know what' | 20:13 |
| wrst | Igneous is ok :) | 20:14 |
| electricus | in ways he is.. i just need to cool off i guess | 20:15 |
| electricus | when he said that i seriously need to check into seeing a doctor because i'm paranoid.. that was it | 20:15 |
| wrst | well we have lots of paranoid people here don't we cyberanger :) | 20:16 |
| orias | they're watching me again >_> | 20:55 |
| cyberanger | there is dansguardian and then OSes with it, but it's not as hard as most think | 21:15 |
| cyberanger | the issue is one can beat it still | 21:15 |
| cyberanger | maybe I'm thinking of squidguard on some of that (same idea though, a filter is easy to setup, easy to beat) | 21:17 |
| cyberanger | wrst: paranoid no, aware, yes | 21:18 |
| wrst | ha ha ok that works cyberanger :) | 21:19 |
| cyberanger | wrst: not all conspiracies are just theroies, after all | 21:20 |
| cyberanger | ;-) | 21:21 |
| cyberanger | (with how sophiscated the toy box is at some of the alphabet soup branches of the Gov't, can't say it's paranoia all the time anymore) | 21:22 |
| cyberanger | and for electricus, it is chiefly a HTTP Caching Proxy | 21:25 |
| cyberanger | but with it's ACL's and plugins, and with HAVP as a parent proxy, it can really do a ton more | 21:26 |
| cyberanger | it can be used (as I am trying out now) as a transparent proxy, or others use it as a reverse proxy (setting it in front of web servers to reduce load and minimize the slashdot effect) | 21:27 |
| cyberanger | wrst: for work, it's kinda nice that a ton of our stuff is repeat downloads | 21:35 |
| cyberanger | just gotta do this to fix a design flaw (in order to cache it, at least) | 21:36 |
| cyberanger | wrst: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/05/26/bypassing_skype_crypto/ | 22:03 |
| cyberanger | Xpistos: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/05/26/bypassing_skype_crypto/ | 22:03 |
| cyberanger | both of you might like that | 22:03 |
| wrst | cyberanger: funny i was looking at something on the arch wiki about that subject i haven't read the article yet heading home and will there after going to do some tech support | 22:12 |
| cyberanger | wrst: that research is pretty new, I heard rumors of it, and some theroies | 22:18 |
| cyberanger | but no real proof in the mainstream till yesterday | 22:18 |
| cyberanger | wonder what arch's wiki said | 22:18 |
| vychune | hey guys | 22:21 |
| vychune | i have a desktop HP that stops at bios post any ideas what may be wrong? | 22:22 |
| cyberanger | vychune: usual culprits been checked, like proper seating of ram? | 22:47 |
| vychune | ram is seated | 22:47 |
| vychune | everything checke | 22:48 |
| vychune | let me see if the ram is bad though | 22:48 |
| electricus | well everyone have a great memorial day weekend! | 22:57 |
| cyberanger | electricus: you too | 23:03 |
| cyberanger | btw, squid by default is a caching http proxy | 23:03 |
| cyberanger | but it highly flexable to other tasks | 23:04 |
| vychune | wrst hows the bot? | 23:41 |
| cyberanger | vychune: did the ram check? | 23:43 |
| cyberanger | did you hear any POST beeps | 23:43 |
| vychune | i couldnt even get anything out. the computer's (excuse my reverse racial slur) nigga rigged lol | 23:44 |
| cyberanger | that makes Diag hard then, hrm | 23:53 |
| vychune | yep | 23:57 |
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