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Ronnie | ping mhall119, cjohnston, nigelb | 13:53 |
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nigelb | Ronnie: hi | 13:53 |
Ronnie | hey nigelb, im starting to work on the rss feed thing, for LD... | 13:53 |
Ronnie | i can already retrieve the feeds, but only one per team | 13:54 |
nigelb | Ronnie: can you talk to mhall119? He has done some work on RSS thingy because of his experience with the feed reader he wrote | 13:54 |
Ronnie | i know | 13:54 |
nigelb | Ronnie: ooh, good! | 13:54 |
nigelb | well, last night chris and I had a call with jono | 13:54 |
Ronnie | asof ubuntu-nl, we have planet software to combine all the different user feeds | 13:54 |
Ronnie | but i guess a lot of locos does not have it | 13:54 |
nigelb | The initial idea I think is to have feeds to be added by admin. It can be associated with a team, but don't make it like every team has a feed. | 13:55 |
nigelb | bah, we all need to have a meeting soonish to coordinate | 13:55 |
Ronnie | im thinkin about multiple feeds per team | 13:55 |
nigelb | I know, I like what you're thinking | 13:56 |
nigelb | But this is the way we want to start | 13:56 |
nigelb | Rather, jono wants to start ;) | 13:56 |
Ronnie | so wer can abondon our planet software | 13:56 |
Ronnie | nigelb: can you inform me when the meeting is taken place. im not much online anymore since i have a solid job | 13:58 |
nigelb | Ronnie: I'll be taking a poll among the 5 of us. We want you there for the meeting :) | 13:58 |
nigelb | Ronnie: you and daker too! | 13:58 |
daker | sure | 14:01 |
nigelb | okay, Doodle poll! http://www.doodle.com/rpt4wkeipi4pidak | 14:04 |
nigelb | Please consider those times as UTC | 14:05 |
mhall119 | Ronnie: good morning | 14:08 |
Ronnie | nigelb: submitted | 14:09 |
Ronnie | hey mhall119, i started today with the team-rss | 14:09 |
Ronnie | but i think we should not limit the feeds to one per team | 14:10 |
mhall119 | I agree, my plan was to allow multiple feeds per team, and even some feeds without a team | 14:11 |
mhall119 | initially moderated by the loco-council, but maybe eventually letting teams manage their own | 14:12 |
Ronnie | Feed-> Team:optional, VisibleOnHome:False(loco-admin-only), feed_url:required | 14:13 |
mhall119 | Ronnie: what do you have done so far? | 14:13 |
Ronnie | i have one field in teams, and it displays on team-detail | 14:13 |
mhall119 | how about the part that pulls the feeds? | 14:14 |
Ronnie | currently on page request, but i need to cahce that | 14:14 |
mhall119 | we already have a cron job for LD, so we can use that to run a management command to update them | 14:15 |
mhall119 | like nigelb said, I've already done a lot of this back-end stuff for another project | 14:15 |
mhall119 | so if you want to split the work, I'll take the backend if you take the frontnend | 14:15 |
Ronnie | http://paste.ubuntu.com/613750/ | 14:16 |
mhall119 | Ronnie: did you see jono's page mockup? | 14:16 |
Ronnie | mhall119: yes, i like that one | 14:16 |
mhall119 | think you can implement it? | 14:17 |
Ronnie | mhall119: i think caching is a lot better than cron jobs, because caching splits the load over the whole day | 14:17 |
Ronnie | mhall119: probably | 14:17 |
Ronnie | and caching does not update items that are never viewed | 14:18 |
mhall119 | Ronnie: we're going to be showing a combination of all team feeds on the front page, it'll need to be updated by cron | 14:18 |
mhall119 | he front page is going to be like planet.ubuntu.com | 14:18 |
mhall119 | only for loco-team feeds | 14:18 |
Ronnie | why do we need cron for the frontage. i think caching will do (we can set cashing on once a day) | 14:19 |
Ronnie | cashing = caching | 14:19 |
mhall119 | because we want it up to date | 14:19 |
* Ronnie wishes it cashing ;) | 14:19 | |
Ronnie | caching allows to set an expiration time | 14:20 |
Ronnie | so if we set that to like 1 hour or something | 14:20 |
mhall119 | when you go to loco.ubuntu.com, you should see the very latest blog posts by loco teams | 14:20 |
Ronnie | or 10 minutes if we want | 14:20 |
mhall119 | assume it'll take about 5 seconds to load each feed | 14:21 |
Ronnie | hmm... i see your point | 14:21 |
mhall119 | there are currently 160 teams | 14:22 |
mhall119 | and we're going to allow multiple feeds per team | 14:22 |
Ronnie | the feed model shoul also have a language to it, so we can filter english only for home | 14:23 |
mhall119 | hmmm, I'm not sure we want to do that | 14:23 |
mhall119 | I don't think planet.u.c does | 14:24 |
Ronnie | no, but almost all planet.ubuntu-nl.org are dutch. if we allow teams to add own rss. that the majority can be non-english | 14:25 |
Ronnie | planet.u.c is for ubuntu-members only | 14:25 |
mhall119 | I think that would be okay | 14:25 |
mhall119 | ideal even | 14:25 |
Ronnie | most of them know english | 14:25 |
mhall119 | I think it would be good to show that loco teams aren't just english | 14:26 |
mhall119 | anybody curious can use google translate | 14:26 |
Ronnie | its good to show there is also non-english, but if for example 3 out of 5 are non-english, than the home is not tab-worthy for me anymore | 14:28 |
mhall119 | I think the vast majority will be english, so chances are the front page will have a majority-english posting at any given time | 14:28 |
Ronnie | if not we can filter them if needed | 14:29 |
czajkowski | mhall119: sup? | 14:30 |
mhall119 | czajkowski: we're discussing adding blog feeds to the loco directory, and the question is should we filter it to show english posts only, or allow non-english posts as well? | 14:30 |
czajkowski | ahh see that time old question | 14:30 |
czajkowski | I don't see any reason why non english posts shouldnt be there | 14:30 |
czajkowski | it's an international community | 14:30 |
mhall119 | my opinion is, showing non-english posts is a good representation of the community | 14:31 |
czajkowski | but I also know this has been an issue raised by planet | 14:31 |
mhall119 | the concern is that if the majority of posts shown are non-english, the page loses it's "tab-worthiness" to english-only speakers | 14:31 |
czajkowski | mhall119: I do also, however I cannot and dont speak for the entire loco council so on topics like this possibly emailing us would be better | 14:31 |
czajkowski | I concur | 14:31 |
Ronnie | the discussion was about 'on the homepage' . on the team details there should be no discussion and allow all languages. | 14:31 |
Ronnie | the current planet is only for ubuntu-members to post | 14:32 |
mhall119 | czajkowski: okay, I just specifically wanted to get your opinion first | 14:32 |
czajkowski | fair enough | 14:32 |
Ronnie | most of them are english, some of them blog in native language, which isnt a problem | 14:32 |
mhall119 | Ronnie: ours will be for loco-members only, so how is that different? | 14:32 |
Ronnie | ubuntu-members are much more involved into the international community, so most of them speak english | 14:33 |
Ronnie | loco-members are usually more local orientated and therefore blog in native language | 14:33 |
czajkowski | would it be possible | 14:34 |
czajkowski | to put a blog feed per loco team page | 14:34 |
Ronnie | so there will be a bigger amount of non-english feeds | 14:34 |
czajkowski | and maybe only show the curent 5 on main page | 14:34 |
czajkowski | I've had a mail from one team already saying they don't use the LD due to it being too formal | 14:34 |
mhall119 | czajkowski: our plan is to allow multiple feeds per team | 14:35 |
Ronnie | i think teams should be allowed to add mutliple feeds. all the feeds are shown on the teams-detail page | 14:35 |
mhall119 | as well as non-team feeds | 14:35 |
Ronnie | on the homepage however, we could filter the feeds or individual posts. i have not yet a clear vision on that one | 14:35 |
czajkowski | all I want as a mandatory field is the contact details to be filled in by a contact name address not a team address | 14:36 |
czajkowski | but that's gonna require getting it fixed elsewhere | 14:36 |
mhall119 | say what? | 14:36 |
mhall119 | I don't understand | 14:36 |
czajkowski | when I go to click contact person for a team | 14:37 |
czajkowski | some teams have a team as a contact | 14:37 |
czajkowski | drives me batty | 14:37 |
czajkowski | or there is no team contact named | 14:38 |
czajkowski | even worse | 14:38 |
cjohnston | yaili_: good morning | 14:38 |
Ronnie | czajkowski: example-link ? | 14:38 |
yaili_ | cjohnston: hello | 14:38 |
czajkowski | Ronnie: I actually cant atm I will come back to you on it | 14:39 |
czajkowski | just kinda in the middle of stuff and I was asked to pop in for a min | 14:39 |
czajkowski | hope you don't mind | 14:39 |
Ronnie | czajkowski: thats oke | 14:39 |
mhall119 | Ronnie: I'm going to send an email to the loco-directory ML and the loco-council ML asking for more opinions on this, okay? | 14:40 |
cjohnston | Ronnie: mhall119 I think we need to look at caching for pages other than the front page | 14:40 |
Ronnie | mhall119: oke | 14:40 |
mhall119 | cjohnston: definitely | 14:40 |
mhall119 | any page that doesn't change often should be cached | 14:40 |
Ronnie | there are even options to cache certain parts of pages | 14:41 |
Ronnie | we denenitly need to look at that | 14:41 |
cjohnston | yaili_: I guess you are going to help me with some graphics work for the about page of the status site? | 14:41 |
cjohnston | mhall119: would also be cool if we could somehow make use of the cdn that canonical has ;-) | 14:42 |
czajkowski | it would be nice on the team contact page to have a contact me on their page http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-ie as an example which would go to the team contact | 14:42 |
czajkowski | would people think that's a good idea ? | 14:42 |
czajkowski | rathher than click onto rory there | 14:42 |
mhall119 | czajkowski: don't we already have that to contact the team? | 14:42 |
czajkowski | and then ont his lp page to find an email address? | 14:42 |
yaili_ | cjohnston: I already spoke to Kate about that, right? I can't really work on the graphics | 14:42 |
cjohnston | czajkowski: a link to an email address or a form for them to post? | 14:43 |
czajkowski | mhall119: I can join this team | 14:43 |
mhall119 | I thought we had a contact too.... | 14:43 |
czajkowski | cjohnston: I was thinking a form... | 14:43 |
czajkowski | mhall119: no | 14:43 |
czajkowski | but for me as a LC person | 14:43 |
czajkowski | it would make my life soooo much easier | 14:43 |
mhall119 | czajkowski: we can't always get email addresses from LP | 14:43 |
cjohnston | yaili_: my understanding was that I was going to take screenshots, and there is something with css that could make it like the what's new page with the hover areas | 14:43 |
czajkowski | mhall119: yeah welcome to my hell | 14:43 |
cjohnston | czajkowski: I agree, since not all contacts have email | 14:43 |
cjohnston | visibe | 14:43 |
cjohnston | czajkowski: will you please file a bug on it? | 14:44 |
czajkowski | sure | 14:44 |
czajkowski | cjohnston: if you mark it invalid I will go over there and kick you :) | 14:44 |
cjohnston | In that case I'm marking invalid on principal | 14:44 |
czajkowski | and somewhere on the footer can we have a link to file a bug! | 14:44 |
czajkowski | really | 14:44 |
czajkowski | ya have to go out of your way to find the page to file the bug | 14:44 |
yaili_ | cjohnston: yes, basically copy that styling, that page uses both CSS and JavaScript to make that work, I thought you could just use that visual style for the tooltips, not necessarily make them in JS | 14:44 |
cjohnston | czajkowski: yes... That is I believe already committed, just not live | 14:45 |
czajkowski | tf | 14:45 |
cjohnston | yaili_: ok.. I'll take a look and see what I can do :-) | 14:45 |
czajkowski | cjohnston: https://bugs.launchpad.net/loco-directory/+bug/789145 | 14:46 |
ubot4 | Launchpad bug 789145 in loco-directory "Contact a team on the team page (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] | 14:47 |
Ronnie | cjohnston, mhall119: do you have time soon to review https://code.launchpad.net/loco-directory/+activereviews | 14:48 |
czajkowski | Ronnie: http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-ru-loco-nsk | 14:48 |
czajkowski | see no team contact listed | 14:48 |
czajkowski | I really want to make team contact a mandatory field | 14:48 |
czajkowski | as it has a knock on effect for the bug I just logged as well | 14:49 |
cjohnston | czajkowski: mhall119 the only issue I could see would be that it may need to link to the contact page of LP since we don't have email capability that im aware of | 14:49 |
mhall119 | Ronnie: this afternoon maybe, I have some pressing work-work to do first | 14:49 |
mhall119 | cjohnston: yeah, I think that's what we'd need to do | 14:49 |
cjohnston | czajkowski: it is required.. | 14:50 |
cjohnston | but there is no where to import it from | 14:50 |
cjohnston | so it starts out blank | 14:50 |
cjohnston | the only thing we could do would be set the default to the team admin | 14:51 |
czajkowski | cjohnston: mhall119 so maybe I should the bug in this instance upstream on lp | 14:52 |
Ronnie | cjohnston: i think that should be ok | 14:52 |
czajkowski | and make creating a team contact there as mandatory ?? | 14:52 |
czajkowski | if that is where you pull things from | 14:53 |
czajkowski | atm, on phone so if I reply slowly sorry | 14:53 |
mhall119 | czajkowski: good luck with that | 14:53 |
cjohnston | czajkowski: upstream what? | 14:54 |
Ronnie | team contact isnt fetched from LP i thought. only the team-admins (owner on LP) | 14:54 |
cjohnston | 34 | 14:55 |
Ronnie | hmm https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-ru-loco-nsk has an owner, why isnt that one fetched mhall119, cjohnston | 14:55 |
mhall119 | Ronnie: owner != contact | 14:56 |
Ronnie | i think the owner should be filled in, if empty. so it can be overwritten in LD | 14:57 |
mhall119 | Ronnie: make it so! | 14:58 |
Ronnie | ill do | 14:59 |
cjohnston | Ronnie: owner is imported from LP in LD.. | 15:02 |
cjohnston | Contact is not.. there is no such thing in LP | 15:02 |
Ronnie | ic | 15:02 |
Ronnie | so if contacts is not supplied, ill add the owner in it | 15:03 |
cjohnston | Thats what I said, is that set by default the contact to the owner, but do NOT require that the owner be the contact.. alow the contact to be changed away from the owner | 15:04 |
Ronnie | yes, only set if empty | 15:05 |
cjohnston | yup | 15:06 |
cjohnston | czajkowski: will that satisfy your requirement? | 15:06 |
czajkowski | will what sorry multitasking here | 15:06 |
czajkowski | owner yes | 15:06 |
czajkowski | and I'd hope owner would be up to date | 15:07 |
cjohnston | If there is no contact, set the team owner as the contact, but not require that the team owner be a contact | 15:07 |
cjohnston | thats why dont require that the team owner be a contact | 15:07 |
czajkowski | yeah I just want that field filled | 15:07 |
czajkowski | if that makes sense | 15:07 |
Ronnie | cjohnston: the fix is only 2 lines of code :D | 15:09 |
cjohnston | sweet | 15:09 |
cjohnston | I'm hoping to get a big project off my lap in the next week.. | 15:09 |
Ronnie | need to test is for the all the teams, but it works for the russion | 15:09 |
cjohnston | Which will free up time for me | 15:09 |
Ronnie | running the test with all the teams not, that could take a while | 15:10 |
cjohnston | ok | 15:10 |
Ronnie | the contact form will be harder, because LD needs an email server for that | 15:11 |
nigelb | Ronnie: yeah, I mentioned that in the bug :) | 15:12 |
Ronnie | nigelb: i think LD needs to be able to send emails | 15:12 |
cjohnston | Ronnie: we need to figure that out with IS to see if they will let us | 15:13 |
nigelb | Ronnie: That leads to a whole bunch of headaches. We also need permission from IS. | 15:13 |
Ronnie | if the permission is granted, then the code will not be a problem i guess | 15:13 |
nigelb | The problem is not the code. | 15:14 |
nigelb | The problem is make sure LD does not get used as something to send spam out. | 15:14 |
Ronnie | but the sys-admins are not very responsive. i have a quation (bug) posted 2 mponths ago. still no response. | 15:15 |
Ronnie | we can use recapcha for that | 15:15 |
Ronnie | i've done some recaptch and django already | 15:16 |
nigelb | I'm still very skeptical of LD sending emails. | 15:18 |
nigelb | I already have LP spamming me enough ;) | 15:18 |
Ronnie | nigelb: you dont like to eat spam? | 15:19 |
nigelb | haha | 15:19 |
Ronnie | for the record, i think mail in LP should be optional | 15:19 |
Ronnie | LP == LD | 15:19 |
mhall119 | LD would only send emails for actions taken by logged-in users, that should prevent outside spam | 15:26 |
mhall119 | also, we can (and will) get email capability if we need it, there's enough backing form higher-ups | 15:26 |
Ronnie | mhall119, cjohnston: https://code.launchpad.net/~ronnie.vd.c/loco-directory/team-contact-lp-owner/+merge/62687 | 15:28 |
cjohnston | sweet | 15:29 |
Ronnie | hmm, im not sure if owners are teams itself..... | 15:29 |
Ronnie | its possible in LP rigth? | 15:30 |
czajkowski | we do have email capactity | 15:30 |
czajkowski | I did clear that at UDS orlando | 15:30 |
cjohnston | Ronnie: yes, it is possible for an owner of a team to be a team | 15:31 |
cjohnston | and someone wrote something that in LD, if the owner is a team, it lists the members of the teams | 15:31 |
Ronnie | in that case, i have to set all members o that team as contacts | 15:32 |
Ronnie | the person that wrote that code was me, didnt remember it tought till i saw the code. the LD.owner is always a LP.person (not team). so the contact 'import' will not fail when the LP.owner is a team | 15:40 |
Ronnie | so the code is ready to be reviewed and merged | 15:40 |
Ronnie | czajkowski: ^ | 15:40 |
czajkowski | I dont review code | 15:41 |
czajkowski | I log bugs and find developers :) | 15:41 |
cjohnston | he wasnt asking you to | 15:41 |
cjohnston | :-P | 15:41 |
czajkowski | ahh I read the first bit | 15:42 |
czajkowski | cjohnston: less of jmping on me mister! | 15:42 |
cjohnston | blah | 15:42 |
cjohnston | You should be jumping for joy | 15:42 |
cjohnston | lol | 15:42 |
czajkowski | yeah I may fall over | 15:42 |
czajkowski | Ronnie: great stuff thank you | 15:42 |
cjohnston | ok.. say yippie | 15:42 |
cjohnston | lol | 15:42 |
czajkowski | at least you dont mark my bugs as wish lists! | 15:42 |
cjohnston | who Ronnie? | 15:43 |
* czajkowski makes a mental note to file tons of bugs against cjohnston | 15:43 | |
cjohnston | It is a wishlist item! | 15:43 |
czajkowski | sarcasim is waster on you today cjohnston | 15:43 |
cjohnston | czajkowski: at the present time, I dont have enough time to do any of them | 15:43 |
Ronnie | always nice to help people with a 2 line patch | 15:43 |
czajkowski | :) | 15:44 |
cjohnston | czajkowski: thanks | 15:53 |
czajkowski | you're welcome | 15:53 |
nigelb | czajkowski: That's a worthy bug for LP. Sending a copy of the mail you sent others to yourself. | 15:56 |
cjohnston | ya.. thats an lp thing | 15:56 |
czajkowski | yeah | 15:56 |
czajkowski | off to file a bug there | 15:56 |
cjohnston | there may already be one | 15:57 |
nigelb | I think your use-case is very genuine and I can help fix if LP guys are okay with it :) | 15:57 |
cjohnston | czajkowski: after you file it, bug a LP developer named nigelb and it will be done | 15:57 |
nigelb | heh | 15:57 |
czajkowski | I'm doing so now | 15:59 |
czajkowski | once I figure how to file a bug aginst lp itself | 15:59 |
cjohnston | launchpad.net/launchpad | 16:00 |
cjohnston | i believe | 16:00 |
czajkowski | got it | 16:00 |
czajkowski | https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/789171 | 16:03 |
ubot4 | Launchpad bug 789171 in launchpad "sending mail to LP - copy to sender also (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] | 16:03 |
czajkowski | see launchpad now | 16:04 |
czajkowski | asking | 16:04 |
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* daker doesn't like jono's blog post | 18:09 | |
cjohnston | which why | 18:10 |
cjohnston | cause it says Ahmed's work? | 18:11 |
daker | some of his ideas are partially wrong | 18:11 |
daker | that's one | 18:11 |
cjohnston | what else? | 18:11 |
daker | this one Michael Hall, Chris Johnston, and Nigel Babu – these guys all contribute to the awesome loco.ubuntu.com. | 18:11 |
cjohnston | To help with this I have scheduled some calls with a few folks: Michael Hall, Chris Johnston, and Nigel Babu – these guys all contribute to the awesome loco.ubuntu.com. | 18:12 |
cjohnston | Read it as one statement | 18:12 |
daker | why he didn't says loco-directory-dev like | 18:13 |
daker | we also did | 18:13 |
daker | s/also/always | 18:13 |
cjohnston | He is referring to who he has scheduled calls with | 18:13 |
daker | maybe | 18:14 |
cjohnston | That's the way I read it | 18:14 |
cjohnston | To help with this I have scheduled some calls with a few folks: Randall, blah blah blah about Randall; Laura, blah blah blah about Laura; Mike Chris and Nigel contributors to LD. | 18:15 |
daker | it's demotivating | 18:19 |
cjohnston | :-( | 18:20 |
cjohnston | How could it have been done better to make it not feel that way? | 18:21 |
daker | i really don't know | 18:22 |
czajkowski | daker: :( | 18:22 |
czajkowski | daker: try talking to him please | 18:23 |
czajkowski | it's not meant to be that way | 18:23 |
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czajkowski | daker: did you get my pm | 18:26 |
daker | no :/ | 18:26 |
czajkowski | ok | 18:27 |
czajkowski | now ? | 18:27 |
daker | ok | 18:28 |
daker | ladies and gentlemen let me go home, i wish you a happy w-e | 18:38 |
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czajkowski | daker_: take care | 18:39 |
cjohnston | newz2000: bug #789236 - oops.. should probably get escilated pretty quick | 18:59 |
ubot4 | Launchpad bug 789236 in ubuntu-website-content (and 1 other project) "Video on main Landscape page is no longer available (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/789236 | 18:59 |
nigelb | cjohnston: escalated :) | 19:17 |
mhall119 | w 24 | 19:27 |
mhall119 | blah | 19:27 |
nigelb | mhall119: tut tut, 42 ;) | 19:33 |
GunBladeIV | :-) | 19:34 |
mhall119 | nigelb: 42 is someone else | 20:17 |
czajkowski | 5 | 20:59 |
czajkowski | 4 | 20:59 |
czajkowski | 3 | 20:59 |
czajkowski | 2 | 20:59 |
czajkowski | 1 | 20:59 |
mhall119 | lift off? | 21:16 |
czajkowski | nearly packed | 22:12 |
cjohnston | 1/31 | 22:19 |
czajkowski | now I just need someone to lift my bags and float me somewhere please | 22:30 |
mhall119 | w 23 | 22:31 |
mhall119 | blah | 22:31 |
czajkowski | ok what is it wiht ye two | 22:31 |
cjohnston | one of them weeks | 22:32 |
pleia2 | they were like this at uds too | 23:10 |
pleia2 | one of them months! | 23:10 |
pleia2 | :) | 23:10 |
cjohnston | 2304324392840932/ | 23:11 |
cjohnston | heh | 23:11 |
joey | mhall119: thanks :-) | 23:39 |
mhall119 | np | 23:40 |
joey | mhall119: the only downside to the job is ... um... me :-) | 23:40 |
* joey laughs. | 23:40 | |
mhall119 | heh, I'm okay with that | 23:40 |
czajkowski | joey: eh would you mind if I dropped you a pm if you're not busy and not too late where ever you are? | 23:41 |
joey | czajkowski: I was wondering if you were listening. :-) Please do | 23:42 |
czajkowski | yeah I don't sleep | 23:42 |
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