[19:06] is there a way to clear all status for a job? [19:06] I've got a job that keeps hanging at start/stop no matter what I seem to do [19:21] are you using 'expect' ? [19:23] I am, but I'm not sure that my expect is right [19:23] right [19:23] that's an upstart bug [19:23] it seems rebooting is good enough to clear things [19:23] sadly [19:23] what is, if you get expect wrong, there's no way to proceed? [19:25] nginx does funny things, I'm not sure there's a way to get it to work normally under nginx [19:25] neither deamon nor fork grab the correct PID [19:25] pre-stop it is then [19:25] right [19:36] the PID file looks like it would be very useful here, but the pid stanza seems like it has been removed, did something replace that? [19:41] no [19:43] too bad