[14:39] <charlie-tca> Good morning
[14:41] <Unit193> Good morning, charlie-tca
[14:42] <charlie-tca> images are out! Xubuntu has alternate images today, but they oversized for a cd-r
[14:42] <charlie-tca> mr_pouit: daily-live images failed today, maybe tomorrow?
[14:57] <charlie-tca> mr_pouit: where/what are the seeds for Xubuntu cd's? I need to add them to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricOcelot/ReleaseManifest
[15:50] <charlie-tca> images are out! Xubuntu has alternate images today, but they oversized for a cd-r
[15:50] <charlie-tca> daily-live/desktop images are not out yet
[15:51] <drc> Ok Mom, I'm up! I'm up! :)
[15:52] <drc> hmm...fixed the usb problem yet?
[15:56] <charlie-tca> no
[15:56] <charlie-tca> bug 789152
[15:56] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 789152 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "When booting an ISO, "try or install" dialog doesn't start" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/789152
[15:58] <Unit193>  /idiot question. Would it make sense to add https://launchpad.net/libnotify-mozilla by default? (Does to me)
[16:00] <drc> I'll second that.
[16:02] <charlie-tca> for?
[16:02] <ochosi> Unit193: i'd rather wait what happens with the announced thunderbird-unity integration
[16:02] <ochosi> charlie-tca: for the messaging indicator
[16:03] <Unit193> ochosi: Ok! I was just asking. /me :x
[16:03] <charlie-tca> micahg will have a better answer than I would
[16:03] <ochosi> true, micahg is our inside-guy for mozilla ;)
[16:03] <ochosi> Unit193: how well does the tb-indicator work?
[16:05] <Unit193> ochosi: Seems to be working just fine (Compose work, there is a place for contacts and it tells you how many msgs you have)
[16:06] <Unit193> +new
[16:06] <ochosi> k, was just wondering because there seem to be quite many open bugs
[16:07] <Unit193> It doesn't work to click the box with the new mail (It doesn't go to that box, it only brings t-bird up)
[16:07] <ochosi> hm
[16:08] <ochosi> tbh the whole indicator concept is a bit problematic with xubuntu/xfce
[16:08] <charlie-tca> yup
[16:08] <drc> orly?
[16:08] <ochosi> since there is no "close-to-tray" functionality by design, it sucks a bit, because thunderbird would have to be open and in the window-list
[16:08] <charlie-tca> xfce4-notifyd was the cause of the desktop images failing today
[16:09] <ochosi> so in fact it's basically just an additional icon. in unity it kinda makes sense, because the programmes are in the windowlist/dock persistently anyway
[16:09] <ochosi> i think we should come up with some kind of solution for that in oneiric
[16:10] <ochosi> but i don't think xfce-panel will support a dock-mode anytime soon
[16:10] <ochosi> (and an additional dock, e.g. docky, makes no sense because what happens with the huge empty panel on the top)
[16:42] <drc> Well, that (11.10 ALT64 install) didn't work.
[16:43] <charlie-tca> where did it fail?
[16:44] <drc> "The fialing step is: Select and install software"
[16:44] <drc> Well, failing *was* spelled correctly :)
[16:44] <charlie-tca> micahg: you will have arm imx images this cycle!
[16:45] <pleia2> what devices run it?
[16:45] <charlie-tca> the notebook computers, I think is it
[16:45] <charlie-tca> micahg and cody-somerville both have them
[16:45] <pleia2> nice
[16:46] <charlie-tca> They look like pocket pc's to me, but I don't think that is correct
[16:47] <drc> charlie-tca: Want me to report that to the ML or wait until the alpha stage begins?
[16:47] <charlie-tca> wait for now
[16:47] <drc> ok
[16:48] <charlie-tca> will tell you when to verify for me. I will test them too, in a bit, to get the failures and see if we can fix them
[16:48] <drc> tea break, after all that hard, dirty manual labor (well, manual partition that is)
[16:48] <charlie-tca> understand
[17:22] <micahg> charlie-tca: cool, thanks!
[17:23] <micahg> pleia2: here's the device I have that I plan to run xubuntu on: http://www.genesi-usa.com/products/smartbook
[17:23] <pleia2> micahg: shiny :)
[17:26]  * drc sometimes wants his 3 year old laptop to break so he can justify getting something new.
[17:28] <charlie-tca> testing is justification. You dedicate the old machine to it, and need a new one to be able to report the results
[17:28] <drc> You don't know my wife :(
[17:28] <pleia2> I'll tell my boyfriend that when I walk in the door with a new computer
[17:28] <pleia2> I'm *sure* he'll agree!
[17:28] <pleia2> ;)
[17:29] <charlie-tca> Of course. It is very logical
[17:29] <drc> charlie-tca: Like I said, you don't know my wife.
[17:30] <charlie-tca> Must be one of those "reasonable" types then... :-)
[17:30] <drc> Remind me to tell you the story of her and her dropping a fortran card deck on the way to the machine room some day.
[17:30] <charlie-tca> Can't really argue with reasonable people
[17:31] <charlie-tca> ouch
[17:38] <drc> Took her 30 years to get over her antaganism to computers.
[17:38] <charlie-tca> I can understand that
[17:38] <charlie-tca> That would not have been a fun time
[17:40] <drc> Nope, even though I *begged* her to use a blue felt pen to number them.
[17:40] <charlie-tca> I didn't think that was allowed ;-)
[17:41] <drc> The hardest part was not laughing, really really hard to do.
[17:41] <charlie-tca> lol
[17:42] <drc> see!
[17:42] <charlie-tca> yup
[17:43] <charlie-tca> Did you use encrypted home for the failed install today?
[17:43] <drc> nope
[17:45] <charlie-tca> going to have start syncing earlier, I guess. 3 1/2 hours and 4 images to sync yet
[17:50] <drc> I could DL them here, jump in the card and drive to Idaho...'bout the same time?
[17:50] <drc> er....car, not card
[17:50] <charlie-tca> yup
[17:51] <charlie-tca> Of course, it will get faster when they stop changing quite so much, us
[17:51] <charlie-tca> usually right after alpha1 it improves
[17:51] <charlie-tca> right now, it is still close to 50% each day
[18:14] <charlie-tca> mr_pouit: Xubuntu alternate images fail to install - The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[18:14] <charlie-tca> May 27 17:01:25 in-target:  xfce4-notifyd : Conflicts: notification-daemon
[20:26] <drc> charlie-tca: I just got word that my sister (in CA) is ill, so I'm going to out of the loop for the next few days, while I drive out there.  Not sure what their net is like, so I may be out for a long week or so.  Sorry about the timing, but....
[20:28]  * drc decides to race his drive to CA with charlie-tca's daily syncing :)
[20:28] <drc> laters all