/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/05/27/#xubuntu.txt

mtrghi -- wireless not working after an update00:27
mtrgnetwork manager says wireless disabled00:27
mtrganyone here00:48
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four2zerohaving issues with mounting a hd anyone around?02:35
four2zerohaving issues with mounting a hd anyone around?02:52
Soupermanitodoes xubuntu comes whit example content? like some ogg audio files or something to test audio?05:01
mnemochi, how does one change the "avatar" for gdm on xubuntu?07:50
mnemoc(11.04)07:50
TheSheepyou put an image in your home directory called something specific08:02
TheSheepbut I can't recall what08:02
Unit193Not in /usr/share/pixmaps/faces ?08:04
Unit193TheSheep was right. Put the image in your home with the name .face08:14
mnemocthanks :)08:30
yakebanybody in here?10:57
Sysiask a quastion and if you get an ansver from somebody, there is at least that person10:58
yakebi was looking for something like expose' on xfce, it seems like this should be possible, just not sure how to do it.11:01
Sysiyou can get thatwith compiz, but it may need some setupping to get window borders with it11:01
Sysior kwin (kde-window-manager)11:02
yakebdo you know what it's called in compiz?11:03
Sysican't remember, it was something weird11:04
yakebhmm11:05
sss314I have a small screen and can't see the bottom of the Xubuntu Installor, any way I can see it?11:13
Cube``guys13:23
Cube``goddamit13:23
Cube``i just got a nvidia geforce 520, and xubuntu wont boot13:23
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elrosare there any updates to xubuntu/xfce4 since the branching of oneiric?15:38
drcelros: Yes15:39
elrosare they worth the update?15:39
charlie-tcahowever, oneiric is a development release. It is very much in an unstable state at this time, and not really usable15:40
drcelros: They're free15:40
charlie-tcaIf you are asking about updates for Xubuntu 11.04, you should run update manager and install updates regularly15:40
elrosi know15:40
drcelros: Oh, do you mean updates to 11.04 or 11.10 (which is not even in alpha yet)?15:41
elrosi came back from debian sid to natty15:41
elrosand now i have this perpetual identity crisis of rolling-release vs point release15:41
elrosdrc: i have 11.04, was asking about package updates to oneiric15:42
charlie-tcaUntil at least beta, oceiric will be unstable and have many updates daily15:43
charlie-tcas/oceric/oneiric15:44
charlie-tcaMost likely, oneiric will have more than 100 updates daily from alpha1 to rc15:45
elrosok15:45
elrosmaybe I'll wait 3 more months and jump in at beta15:46
drcAFAIK, Xubuntu 11.10 images are even up on the web yet...but are probably being passed from hand to hand in some dark, dingy bar somewhere in Casa Blanca.  "Psst, hey kid, wanna a free peek at Oneiric?"15:49
Sysiyou know, sid isn't *really* rolling release :P15:56
Unit193Welcome backm jarnos :P16:17
elrosis there a way to remove the playlist from parole? some hidden config?16:40
elrosit looks like a promising project, but the playlist is annoying16:42
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Unit193Why might it be that when I upgrade, it says this: Need to get 3,237 kB/3,812 kB of archives. | After this operation, 2,499 MB disk space will be freed.  | When it's not going to free 2,499 MBs (This isn't the first time)18:38
Sysiit's bad with math18:39
Sysiupgrade with apt-get?18:39
Unit193Yep18:40
* Unit193 doesn't use/like aptitude18:40
charlie-tcaIt will remove enough for 2499MB, but will also add 3237kB, so the net result doesn't match up18:41
Unit193charlie-tca: This is the second time (Same exact number) and it's only upgrading some freenx stuff... (~30MB download)18:42
Sysicharlie-tca: it shouldn't calculate it like that18:43
SysiUnit193: if you run apt-get autoremove does it do anything?18:44
Unit193Sysi: I had just done that before (And just now with nothing)18:44
temp123It does some cleanup of packages no longer required18:45
charlie-tcabut every upgrade means changing file sizes, at least a little bit, since the file changed or you would not be upgrading it.18:45
charlie-tcaIf I change a word in a file, the file size almost always changes too18:45
charlie-tcaIt might be the "need to get" size is for a compressed file, too, and the "going to free" is not for compressed sizes18:46
rsleventhalafternoon folks.19:07
elrosyup19:07
rsleventhalI was wondering if someone might point me in the right direction for fixing a very 'grainy' mouse pointer issue with xubuntu (natty) on my dell latitude d800 laptop (upgrade from maverick)19:08
rsleventhalthe pointer itself seems to be at the left side of a dotted rectangle.  while it all works, it's really annoying19:09
charlie-tcais that on the desktop or all over?19:10
elrosdo you mean that the icon is ugly?19:10
elrosoh now i see19:10
rsleventhal@charlie the pointer is that way everywhere in the gui19:10
rsleventhal@elros the arrow itself is fine, but it's sort of overlayed by this dotted box19:11
Unit193rsleventhal: The pointer is in the wrong spot? I 100% agree on this (Try to resize a window)19:11
charlie-tcarsleventhal: I think I would suggest trying a different cursor theme, to make sure that isn't it.19:11
rsleventhalI'll try that, charlie, thank youy19:11
rsleventhal@Unit the pointer works fine, but when it moves, this dot-filled rectangle does too19:12
charlie-tcameans the mouse cursor is not an arrow by itself, but a box with an arrow, like gimp used to use19:12
rsleventhalexactly, charlie.19:12
rsleventhalthis is with the default driver.  i've got nvidia, but when i use nvidia-current, i'm stuck at console, even after changing Driver=nvidia to Driver=nv in the xorg.conf file19:13
charlie-tcahm, might have to blacklist nouveau for nvidia-current to work right. I have seen that mentioned somewhere.19:14
charlie-tcaIt seems nouveau does not always get out of the way for nvidia-current19:14
rsleventhalinteresting.  i've been looking around with google and forums, but hadn't seen that mentioned.19:14
rsleventhalblacklisting nouveau seems to have done the trick.  thank you *very* much for the tip19:21
rsleventhalthanks again....out19:22
SoupermanitoD:19:50
Soupermanitoi has a problem19:50
Soupermanitoa huge problem19:50
Soupermanito!ask19:50
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)19:50
drcI has a cheesburger!19:50
Soupermanitook, ok, when i go to a tty i can only see weird greencolored blocks D:19:51
Soupermanitojust colored blocks, like huge pixels19:51
Soupermanitoi can see that im writing19:51
Soupermanitobut its not text just huge color pixels19:51
Sysii guess it's issue with nvidia19:52
Soupermanitoyou guess19:53
Soupermanitook19:53
Soupermanitoi buy that19:53
Soupermanito:(19:56
charlie-tcaSounds like an issue with the video card not responding correctly to the file buffer commands that are setting things up now19:59
charlie-tcawhich may never get fixed, too19:59
Sysihttp://www.linux-archive.org/debian-user/528691-console-messed-up-nvidia-drivers.html20:01
Sysihttp://idyllictux.wordpress.com/2010/04/26/lucidubuntu-10-04-high-resolution-plymouth-virtual-terminal-for-atinvidia-cards-with-proprietaryrestricted-driver/20:01
Soupermanito:) thanks will read20:06
Soupermanito:(20:33
gr8m8well now, 69 nicks in the channel, must be getting near the record20:51
Sysi!stats20:53
Sysimeh20:53
Soupermanitookay fixed, thanks Sysi21:00
Sysiwhich one worked?21:02
Soupermanitothe last one21:05
Soupermanitoi know what i did now21:05
Soupermanitoi used plymouth manager to try to change my botsplash21:05
elroshave you tried startupmanager?21:06
Soupermanitoand it added something to my /etc/default/grub inside the line GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="" it added something like "vga 772" or something like that21:06
Soupermanitoso i deleted that and things work again21:06
Soupermanitono elros i have not :)21:07
elrosgood choices for a lightweight web browser? must be gui (elinks for extreme cases), and I know that midori / arora / chromium / epiphany exist21:26
Soupermanitothe one that comes whit puppy linux :P21:30
gr8m8I like conkeror for the keyboard control21:31
Sysichromium is fast but need quite much ram, at least with multiple tabs21:31
Soupermanito>lightweight >konqueror21:31
Soupermanitochoose one21:31
Sysimidori may be a bit unstable21:31
Soupermanitolinks221:31
gr8m8I said conkeror -> there's no k involved21:32
Soupermanitolinks2 is pretty awesome21:32
gr8m8!info conkeror21:32
ubottuPackage conkeror does not exist in natty21:32
SoupermanitoD: >conkeror >onkeror >nkeror >keror >K21:32
Sysi!search conkeror21:32
ubottuFound:21:32
Soupermanito!info konqueror21:32
ubottukonqueror (source: kdebase): advanced file manager, web browser and document viewer. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.6.2-0ubuntu1 (natty), package size 975 kB, installed size 3364 kB21:32
Sysi!find conkeror21:32
ubottuFile conkeror found in app-install-data21:32
gr8m8it is based on firefox but much lighter21:33
Soupermanitooh, my ignorance21:33
SysiSoupermanito: Different app.21:33
Soupermanito!info konkeror21:34
ubottuPackage konkeror does not exist in natty21:34
elrosyou're selling me kde21:35
elrosnot buying21:35
Sysino, Soupermanito is messing21:35
SoupermanitoD: i messing what?21:35
gr8m8 http://conkeror.org21:35
Sysiactually i think rekonq isn't that heavy but i'd go with epiphany, chromium or midori21:36
Sysiinstall and see21:36
elrosconkeror, ok, I'll look at that21:36
Soupermanitoelros, links221:37
Soupermanito:P21:37
elrosSoupermanito, is there much difference to elinks?21:37
Soupermanitodon't know im trying to install that one to see but it says 404 to some dependencies21:38
Soupermanito:D after apt-get update it worked21:39
Soupermanitoelros, is similar, but whit images support21:39
Soupermanitocan run on X21:39
Sysiapt-get update is better to do at least every day21:40
Soupermanitoyes21:41
Soupermanitoi know21:41
Soupermanitowas being lazyt21:41
Soupermanitoelros, http://imagebin.org/15551621:42
Unit193I try not to do it more than once a day...21:42
elrosthat's impressive21:42

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