[00:27] <mtrg> hi -- wireless not working after an update
[00:27] <mtrg> network manager says wireless disabled
[00:48] <mtrg> anyone here
[02:35] <four2zero> having issues with mounting a hd anyone around?
[02:52] <four2zero> having issues with mounting a hd anyone around?
[05:01] <Soupermanito> does xubuntu comes whit example content? like some ogg audio files or something to test audio?
[07:50] <mnemoc> hi, how does one change the "avatar" for gdm on xubuntu?
[07:50] <mnemoc> (11.04)
[08:02] <TheSheep> you put an image in your home directory called something specific
[08:02] <TheSheep> but I can't recall what
[08:04] <Unit193> Not in /usr/share/pixmaps/faces ?
[08:14] <Unit193> TheSheep was right. Put the image in your home with the name .face
[08:30] <mnemoc> thanks :)
[10:57] <yakeb> anybody in here?
[10:58] <Sysi> ask a quastion and if you get an ansver from somebody, there is at least that person
[11:01] <yakeb> i was looking for something like expose' on xfce, it seems like this should be possible, just not sure how to do it.
[11:01] <Sysi> you can get thatwith compiz, but it may need some setupping to get window borders with it
[11:02] <Sysi> or kwin (kde-window-manager)
[11:03] <yakeb> do you know what it's called in compiz?
[11:04] <Sysi> can't remember, it was something weird
[11:05] <yakeb> hmm
[11:13] <sss314> I have a small screen and can't see the bottom of the Xubuntu Installor, any way I can see it?
[13:23] <Cube``> guys
[13:23] <Cube``> goddamit
[13:23] <Cube``> i just got a nvidia geforce 520, and xubuntu wont boot
[15:38] <elros> are there any updates to xubuntu/xfce4 since the branching of oneiric?
[15:39] <drc> elros: Yes
[15:39] <elros> are they worth the update?
[15:40] <charlie-tca> however, oneiric is a development release. It is very much in an unstable state at this time, and not really usable
[15:40] <drc> elros: They're free
[15:40] <charlie-tca> If you are asking about updates for Xubuntu 11.04, you should run update manager and install updates regularly
[15:40] <elros> i know
[15:41] <drc> elros: Oh, do you mean updates to 11.04 or 11.10 (which is not even in alpha yet)?
[15:41] <elros> i came back from debian sid to natty
[15:41] <elros> and now i have this perpetual identity crisis of rolling-release vs point release
[15:42] <elros> drc: i have 11.04, was asking about package updates to oneiric
[15:43] <charlie-tca> Until at least beta, oceiric will be unstable and have many updates daily
[15:44] <charlie-tca> s/oceric/oneiric
[15:45] <charlie-tca> Most likely, oneiric will have more than 100 updates daily from alpha1 to rc
[15:45] <elros> ok
[15:46] <elros> maybe I'll wait 3 more months and jump in at beta
[15:49] <drc> AFAIK, Xubuntu 11.10 images are even up on the web yet...but are probably being passed from hand to hand in some dark, dingy bar somewhere in Casa Blanca.  "Psst, hey kid, wanna a free peek at Oneiric?"
[15:56] <Sysi> you know, sid isn't *really* rolling release :P
[16:17] <Unit193> Welcome backm jarnos :P
[16:40] <elros> is there a way to remove the playlist from parole? some hidden config?
[16:42] <elros> it looks like a promising project, but the playlist is annoying
[18:38] <Unit193> Why might it be that when I upgrade, it says this: Need to get 3,237 kB/3,812 kB of archives. | After this operation, 2,499 MB disk space will be freed.  | When it's not going to free 2,499 MBs (This isn't the first time)
[18:39] <Sysi> it's bad with math
[18:39] <Sysi> upgrade with apt-get?
[18:40] <Unit193> Yep
[18:40]  * Unit193 doesn't use/like aptitude
[18:41] <charlie-tca> It will remove enough for 2499MB, but will also add 3237kB, so the net result doesn't match up
[18:42] <Unit193> charlie-tca: This is the second time (Same exact number) and it's only upgrading some freenx stuff... (~30MB download)
[18:43] <Sysi> charlie-tca: it shouldn't calculate it like that
[18:44] <Sysi> Unit193: if you run apt-get autoremove does it do anything?
[18:44] <Unit193> Sysi: I had just done that before (And just now with nothing)
[18:45] <temp123> It does some cleanup of packages no longer required
[18:45] <charlie-tca> but every upgrade means changing file sizes, at least a little bit, since the file changed or you would not be upgrading it.
[18:45] <charlie-tca> If I change a word in a file, the file size almost always changes too
[18:46] <charlie-tca> It might be the "need to get" size is for a compressed file, too, and the "going to free" is not for compressed sizes
[19:07] <rsleventhal> afternoon folks.
[19:07] <elros> yup
[19:08] <rsleventhal> I was wondering if someone might point me in the right direction for fixing a very 'grainy' mouse pointer issue with xubuntu (natty) on my dell latitude d800 laptop (upgrade from maverick)
[19:09] <rsleventhal> the pointer itself seems to be at the left side of a dotted rectangle.  while it all works, it's really annoying
[19:10] <charlie-tca> is that on the desktop or all over?
[19:10] <elros> do you mean that the icon is ugly?
[19:10] <elros> oh now i see
[19:10] <rsleventhal> @charlie the pointer is that way everywhere in the gui
[19:11] <rsleventhal> @elros the arrow itself is fine, but it's sort of overlayed by this dotted box
[19:11] <Unit193> rsleventhal: The pointer is in the wrong spot? I 100% agree on this (Try to resize a window)
[19:11] <charlie-tca> rsleventhal: I think I would suggest trying a different cursor theme, to make sure that isn't it.
[19:11] <rsleventhal> I'll try that, charlie, thank youy
[19:12] <rsleventhal> @Unit the pointer works fine, but when it moves, this dot-filled rectangle does too
[19:12] <charlie-tca> means the mouse cursor is not an arrow by itself, but a box with an arrow, like gimp used to use
[19:12] <rsleventhal> exactly, charlie.
[19:13] <rsleventhal> this is with the default driver.  i've got nvidia, but when i use nvidia-current, i'm stuck at console, even after changing Driver=nvidia to Driver=nv in the xorg.conf file
[19:14] <charlie-tca> hm, might have to blacklist nouveau for nvidia-current to work right. I have seen that mentioned somewhere.
[19:14] <charlie-tca> It seems nouveau does not always get out of the way for nvidia-current
[19:14] <rsleventhal> interesting.  i've been looking around with google and forums, but hadn't seen that mentioned.
[19:21] <rsleventhal> blacklisting nouveau seems to have done the trick.  thank you *very* much for the tip
[19:22] <rsleventhal> thanks again....out
[19:50] <Soupermanito> D:
[19:50] <Soupermanito> i has a problem
[19:50] <Soupermanito> a huge problem
[19:50] <Soupermanito> !ask
[19:50] <drc> I has a cheesburger!
[19:51] <Soupermanito> ok, ok, when i go to a tty i can only see weird greencolored blocks D:
[19:51] <Soupermanito> just colored blocks, like huge pixels
[19:51] <Soupermanito> i can see that im writing
[19:51] <Soupermanito> but its not text just huge color pixels
[19:52] <Sysi> i guess it's issue with nvidia
[19:53] <Soupermanito> you guess
[19:53] <Soupermanito> ok
[19:53] <Soupermanito> i buy that
[19:56] <Soupermanito> :(
[19:59] <charlie-tca> Sounds like an issue with the video card not responding correctly to the file buffer commands that are setting things up now
[19:59] <charlie-tca> which may never get fixed, too
[20:01] <Sysi> http://www.linux-archive.org/debian-user/528691-console-messed-up-nvidia-drivers.html
[20:01] <Sysi> http://idyllictux.wordpress.com/2010/04/26/lucidubuntu-10-04-high-resolution-plymouth-virtual-terminal-for-atinvidia-cards-with-proprietaryrestricted-driver/
[20:06] <Soupermanito> :) thanks will read
[20:33] <Soupermanito> :(
[20:51] <gr8m8> well now, 69 nicks in the channel, must be getting near the record
[20:53] <Sysi> !stats
[20:53] <Sysi> meh
[21:00] <Soupermanito> okay fixed, thanks Sysi
[21:02] <Sysi> which one worked?
[21:05] <Soupermanito> the last one
[21:05] <Soupermanito> i know what i did now
[21:05] <Soupermanito> i used plymouth manager to try to change my botsplash
[21:06] <elros> have you tried startupmanager?
[21:06] <Soupermanito> and it added something to my /etc/default/grub inside the line GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="" it added something like "vga 772" or something like that
[21:06] <Soupermanito> so i deleted that and things work again
[21:07] <Soupermanito> no elros i have not :)
[21:26] <elros> good choices for a lightweight web browser? must be gui (elinks for extreme cases), and I know that midori / arora / chromium / epiphany exist
[21:30] <Soupermanito> the one that comes whit puppy linux :P
[21:31] <gr8m8> I like conkeror for the keyboard control
[21:31] <Sysi> chromium is fast but need quite much ram, at least with multiple tabs
[21:31] <Soupermanito> >lightweight >konqueror
[21:31] <Soupermanito> choose one
[21:31] <Sysi> midori may be a bit unstable
[21:31] <Soupermanito> links2
[21:32] <gr8m8> I said conkeror -> there's no k involved
[21:32] <Soupermanito> links2 is pretty awesome
[21:32] <gr8m8> !info conkeror
[21:32] <Soupermanito> D: >conkeror >onkeror >nkeror >keror >K
[21:32] <Sysi> !search conkeror
[21:32] <Soupermanito> !info konqueror
[21:32] <Sysi> !find conkeror
[21:33] <gr8m8> it is based on firefox but much lighter
[21:33] <Soupermanito> oh, my ignorance
[21:33] <Sysi> Soupermanito: Different app.
[21:34] <Soupermanito> !info konkeror
[21:35] <elros> you're selling me kde
[21:35] <elros> not buying
[21:35] <Sysi> no, Soupermanito is messing
[21:35] <Soupermanito> D: i messing what?
[21:35] <gr8m8>  http://conkeror.org
[21:36] <Sysi> actually i think rekonq isn't that heavy but i'd go with epiphany, chromium or midori
[21:36] <Sysi> install and see
[21:36] <elros> conkeror, ok, I'll look at that
[21:37] <Soupermanito> elros, links2
[21:37] <Soupermanito> :P
[21:37] <elros> Soupermanito, is there much difference to elinks?
[21:38] <Soupermanito> don't know im trying to install that one to see but it says 404 to some dependencies
[21:39] <Soupermanito> :D after apt-get update it worked
[21:39] <Soupermanito> elros, is similar, but whit images support
[21:39] <Soupermanito> can run on X
[21:40] <Sysi> apt-get update is better to do at least every day
[21:41] <Soupermanito> yes
[21:41] <Soupermanito> i know
[21:41] <Soupermanito> was being lazyt
[21:42] <Soupermanito> elros, http://imagebin.org/155516
[21:42] <Unit193> I try not to do it more than once a day...
[21:42] <elros> that's impressive