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[00:05] <wallyworld> sinzui:
[00:06] <wallyworld> sinzui: is there a reason why css_id doesn't like '_'
[00:06] <wallyworld> ie it replaces '_' with '-'
[00:17] <lifeless> wallyworld: css2 back -ages- ago forbade underscores
[00:17] <lifeless> wallyworld: since permitted, but EOldBrowsers
[00:19] <cjohnston> Can someone take a look at bug #787650.. It appears to be in lp:launchpad already.. Should it be either fix comitted or fix released?
[00:19] <_mup_> Bug #787650: Add an IRC nick formatter <disclosure> <irc> <person-picker> <Launchpad itself:In Progress by wallyworld> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/787650 >
[00:20] <cjohnston> or am I missing something
[00:20] <lifeless> cjohnston: fix committed happens when it gets through CI
[00:20] <lifeless> so in lp:launchpad/stable
[00:20] <cjohnston> 'ok
[00:20] <lifeless> aka lp:~launchpad-pqm/launchpad/stable
[00:21] <wallyworld> lifeless: hmm. even though css_id() strips them, most all of our form fields still have them
[00:21] <lifeless> fix released happens when its live and the bug corrected
[00:21] <wallyworld> ie css_id is not used iniversally
[00:21] <lifeless> this may explain some old browser issue - but it would need to be really old browsers :)
[00:22] <wallyworld> lifeless: so since fields like target_branch etc are rendered in the current codebase, do we want to retain the behaviour of css_id() to strip the _
[00:23] <lifeless> wallyworld: I'm not enough of a browser-changelog-guru to know
[00:23] <wallyworld> np. i'm asking because it would allow me to eliminate some duplicate code
[00:24] <lifeless> I suggest some research - find which version of IE started supporting them, for instance
[00:25] <wallyworld> i'll have a look. but given we render nodes with ids containing _ right now, it's kinda moot, no?
[00:25] <lifeless> well
[00:25] <lifeless> we know we have ie6 issues
[00:25] <lifeless> this might be it, for instance.
[00:26] <lifeless> given we know we have some browser issues, its probably a good idea to exclude this change from those issues before making it ;)
[00:26] <wallyworld> could be. i doubt we're going to address any ie6 compatability issue though?
[00:27] <lifeless> we would like to
[00:27]  * wallyworld hates ie6 :-(
[00:27] <lifeless> yes
[00:28] <lifeless> http://noscope.com/journal/2005/01/showing-css-to-ie-only-the-underscore-hack
[00:32] <lifeless> ah, thats different
[00:39] <lifeless> http://www.w3.org/TR/CSS21/syndata.html#characters is what permits _. http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/REC-CSS2-20080411/syndata.html#q4 is the older spec.
[00:41] <lifeless> 6.0 was release in 2001
[00:43] <lifeless> http://www.w3.org/TR/2002/WD-CSS21-20020802/ is the earliest 2.1 draft I've found so far
[00:43] <wallyworld> lifeless: from what i can tell, ns4 has an issue with _. ie6 is ok
[00:44] <wallyworld> although with ie6, _ as the first character has special meaning
[00:44] <lifeless> yeah
[00:44] <lifeless> wth they thought that was a good idea, we'll never know
[00:44] <wallyworld> as you point out above, _ as the first char is for ie6 only properties
[00:45] <wallyworld> so i think it should be ok to allow _, but not as the first char?
[00:45] <lifeless> probably
[00:45] <lifeless> I suspect you'll want to run it past e.g. sinzui
[00:45] <wallyworld> yeah
[00:47] <wallyworld> it would be nice to be able to do it so that we can have a cleaner codebase and consistent id generation for popups vs other fields
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[06:21] <nigelb> poolie, lifeless: Thanks!
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