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RowinHello00:29
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psusiis there a channel specifically about the wiki?  I'm trying to figure out how to embed screen shots into wiki entries properly, specifically, how to scale them to an appropriate size.03:23
GTRsdkhi03:26
GTRsdkCan someone help me put a package onto a PPA?03:27
psusiGTRsdk, have you created your ppa on launchpad?03:28
GTRsdkpsusi, yes03:28
GTRsdkpsusi, I am wanting to put a Firefox 5 beta 3 .deb for Lucid on it03:30
psusiGTRsdk, dput ppa:~yourname/ppaname foo_ver.changes03:37
CarlFKhttp://firecontrol.sourceforge.net - its like 1 .c file - can I get someone to package it?  I am figuring out how to compile it03:37
GTRsdkpsusi, I only put the changes?03:38
GTRsdkpsusi, I get some errors...03:40
CarlFKbuild-depends: libraw1394-dev03:42
ScottKGTRsdk: For non-Ubuntu packaging questions, #ubuntu-packaging is best and for PPA questions, you should ask in #launchpad.03:48
psusiGTRsdk, yes03:52
CarlFKScottK: *non*-Ubuntu ... #ubuntu-packaging  ?03:53
ScottKCarlFK: PPA's aren't part of Ubuntu.03:53
CarlFKso why #ubuntu-packaging?03:54
ScottKThink of it as Ubuntu Style Packaging.03:54
CarlFKcrazy03:55
* ScottK didn't make it up.03:58
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lucidfoxWow, GTK3 is fast!10:58
lost_hi12:11
bdrung_maco: around?12:17
hakermanialucidfox, how can i try it?12:19
lucidfoxhakermania, by installing any GTK3 application :)13:37
lucidfoxfor example, in oneiric, sudo apt-get install evince (or nautilus, or brasero)13:37
hakermanialucidfoc, how can you have oneiric? The first beta release, if correct is on 2 of June13:38
hakermanialucidfox, *13:40
lucidfoxthe unstable development version, obviously13:40
hakermanialucidfox, yes, forgot that i was in the MOTU's channel :P13:41
lucidfox:)13:41
hakermanialucidfox, are you in oneiric now?13:43
lucidfoxyes13:43
hakermanialucidfox, did you installed it manually/you're in the testing session/you're in virtualbox13:44
hakermania?13:44
lucidfoxI upgraded from natty13:45
hakermaniaUbuntu is not at all helpful on my search for oneiric development unstalble release, anyone with a direct link or with a tip where to find the releases each time a new one is there?14:34
hakermaniaGoogle***14:34
hakermaniaOmg, I mispelled Ubuntu with Google xD14:34
tumbleweedhakermania: you can find daily & alpha CD images on cdimage.ubuntu.com. Or just debootstrap an install, use the netinst CD, or upgrade from natty14:38
hakermaniatumbleweed, thx a lot14:40
ScottKhakermania: Running the development release, particularly this early, can be a bit rocky.  I would suggest that if you are uncertain how to upgrade to it, that's a good sign you might not be ready to run it (unless you're prepared for a full reinstall should things go badly).14:43
stlsaint+114:44
hakermaniaScottK: I just want to see if my apps run there stably, nothing more or less. Additionally I will try to run oneiric through virtualbox, so don't worry14:44
stlsainthakermania: i suggest using vbox or testdrive14:44
ScottKOK.14:44
ScottKI"ve seen people get in over their heads before.14:45
hakermaniaI'd like to learn how to use debootstrap, but in the ubuntu's wiki about this issue says nothing about oneiric, it doesn't have a single link about oneiric in debootsrap's deb packages... :/ (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot)14:47
ScottKIt hasn't changed since Gutsy.  Just substitute whatever release name is there with oneiric.14:48
hakermaniaScottK, i get 404 this way14:49
tumbleweedotoh, it would be nice to see more people running the dev release for everyday work (maybe a bit later in the cycle, *I* haven't upgraded yet either) lots of people seem to avoid it until near the end[1~14:49
tumbleweedScottK: I spectacularly missed my first release team meeting :/ (remembered about an hour before then got sidetracked) not that I had anything to say...14:51
hakermaniaScottK, and here http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/d/debootstrap/ is says nothing about oneiric :'(14:52
tumbleweedhakermania: the pool is unified, all the debs for every supported release (and some may be shared between releases) are in the same dir14:52
tumbleweedhakermania: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debootstrap can show you what applies to what (or use rmadison) (or just apt-get it)14:53
ScottKtumbleweed: No problem.  I missed most of it too due to a power outage.14:53
ScottKtumbleweed: You can read the IRC log on irclogs.ubuntu.com to get an idea of what goes on.14:54
tumbleweedScottK: yeah I've seen a few before (I lurk in the meeting channel)14:54
ScottKOK.14:54
hakermaniaSo (i don't want to do anything wrong) this is the correct deb https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/debootstrap_1.0.31_all.deb ?14:55
tumbleweedhakermania: what exactly are you trying to do?14:56
hakermaniatumbleweed, install the *correct* debootstrap14:57
tumbleweedyou don't need to install oneiric's debootstrap to install oneiric14:57
hakermaniathen why there are debootstrap_hardy debootstrap_maverick etc?14:57
tumbleweedyou mean ~hardy1 ? That just means someone SRUed / backported debootstrap to hardy14:58
hakermaniatubleweed, Ok, then what do I download at last? apt-get isntall debootsrap outputs that it is already installed.. Is this enough?14:59
hakermaniatumbleweed, *14:59
tumbleweedif you aren't familiar with debian-installer / debootstrap, you might find it a little low level, if you want to play around with the dev release, I'd suggest pbuilder-dist (for a command-line chroot) or using a daily CD for a VM install15:00
hakermaniaYes, I'll try a VM install, better.15:00
hakermaniaI'm wondering, Oneiric is open for development, OK, what does this mean? Bug-fixing?15:03
tumbleweedhakermania: http://people.canonical.com/~dholbach/packaging-guide/html/introduction-to-ubuntu-development.html15:05
hakermaniatumbleweed, nice, I read it. How do i know which are the open bugs? I have this link that actually links you to launchpad bugs, but it is always outdated: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/debootstrap_1.0.31_all.deb15:14
hakermaniaErr15:14
hakermaniahttp://harvest.ubuntu.com/opportunities/15:14
tumbleweedit shouldn't be outdated15:15
hakermaniatumbleweed: With what criteria is a bug marked as easy or hard?15:21
tumbleweedI don't know about easy/hard, but bitesize bugs should be suitable for new contributors with no experience (assuming some help from people here)15:25
stlsaintam i correct in stating that alioth will no longer be used but is moved to another location15:26
tumbleweedno, alioth is alive and well, but is now two machines15:28
Laneyfsvo 'well'15:28
Laney;-)15:28
stlsainttumbleweed: so the alioth site is up?15:28
Laneyalioth.debian.org doesn't work for you?15:28
tumbleweedyeah it's still recovering from the upgrade15:28
Laneythe machines themselves are much, much better15:29
tumbleweedwell, one of them is the machine that used to host the whole thing (in a Xen VM, though)15:29
Laneyit's better for it15:29
hakermaniaPfffff... The oneiric unstable proves to be too unstable.... When I boot it I get the familiar desktop image and then a light blue, reminding me the blue screen of death... I can move the mouse but nothing more....15:35
stlsaintso alioth will regain status as primary site? (iirc thats not what the mailing lsit announcement said)15:36
Laneywhat do you mean?15:37
Laney#alioth on OFTC might be better for these questions15:37
hakermaniaLaney, not really a question, it's just a report...15:40
LaneyI was talking to stlsaint15:40
hakermaniaoh15:41
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