James2^2 | can i use that with some kind of hack to make a combined frontend/backend give the backend an extra few seconds to load before the frontend connects | 00:17 |
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James2^2 | <+kormoc> James2^2, just add a sleep to your startup script? | 00:18 |
James2^2 | <James2^2> im new to ubuntu, which script actually starts the frontend? | 00:18 |
James2^2 | "apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras" wants to remove libavcodec52 and libavutil50. are these required by nythbuntu for normal operation? | 02:45 |
James2^2 | or without it, how do i play mp3's with mythmusic? | 02:45 |
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gandalfcome | I have MythTV 0.24 using mythbuntu 11.04. I also use the MCE remote, whenever I press down it jumps 2 instead of one. is that a known error? | 10:47 |
superm1 | gandalfcome, run your apt updates | 11:41 |
superm1 | there is a fix in updates | 11:41 |
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James2 | hey guys | 11:56 |
James2 | during setup, on graphics options, does HDMI output count as tv out? | 11:58 |
qwebirc73479 | I have just installed the repo on my 10.04 machine and about to move to 0.24. When doing the upgrade is it best to do a apt-get dist-upgrade or just apt-get updgrade? I notice just using upgrade it doesn't want to remove libmyth0.23 | 11:58 |
James2 | qwebirc73479: dont do it imho | 11:58 |
James2 | well are you staying to 10.04 or wanting to upgrade the whole system to 11.04 as well? | 11:59 |
James2 | just changing the mythtv repo should be ok, but if you want to upgrade the distro be prepared for some fun | 11:59 |
James2 | i tried it a few days ago, upgrading from 10.04 with 0.23.x, did a backup first, did the upg to 0.24.x, then dist upgrade to 10.10, then to 11.04 | 12:00 |
qwebirc73479 | just staying at 10.04 | 12:00 |
James2 | the machine ended borked | 12:00 |
James2 | you should be ok then, but still do a backup first imho | 12:01 |
qwebirc73479 | I have some iso images I want to play but am using storage groups, so that is my motivation for going to 0.24 | 12:01 |
James2 | if you do "apt-get dist-upgrade" you are telling it to upgrade yo to 10.10 | 12:01 |
James2 | so do "apt-get upgrade" | 12:01 |
James2 | once it finishes, do it again | 12:02 |
qwebirc73479 | ah ok, and if I get a libmyth error remove libmyth0.23 manually? | 12:02 |
James2 | no | 12:02 |
qwebirc73479 | ok, I'll do the apt-get upgrade | 12:02 |
qwebirc73479 | thanks | 12:02 |
James2 | i noticed it didnt upgradee everything first time, it took a couple of runs to update everything | 12:03 |
James2 | then i did the 10.10 update which seemed to work, but 10.10 to 11.04 i will never recommend to anyone lol | 12:04 |
James2 | 3 days later im still configuring the system | 12:04 |
qwebirc73479 | I think I will be staying clear of 11.04 | 12:04 |
James2 | 11.04 itself is cool | 12:04 |
James2 | having installed clean from an iso | 12:04 |
James2 | im just setting up my new secondary backend atm | 12:05 |
James2 | anyone know about the "master backend info" page of setup | 12:06 |
James2 | i have put in my pin, but it definiitely wont see my backend | 12:06 |
James2 | i assume its looking at my local subnet, not the other building subnet where the master is | 12:06 |
James2 | anyway i can tell it where to find it? | 12:06 |
James2 | (this will b in the same building once configured) | 12:07 |
James2 | well it continued ok :P | 12:09 |
James2 | just connection test moaned about "couldnt find db logins" | 12:09 |
James2 | ah cool, on first boot it pops up upnp failed and lets me specify the logins :) | 12:20 |
qwebirc73479 | James2 just to let you know apt-get upgrade didn't work | 12:25 |
qwebirc73479 | I needed to do an apt-get dist-upgrade because I was upgrading major package versions of mythtv | 12:26 |
qwebirc73479 | works flawlessly now | 12:26 |
qwebirc73479 | upgrade went smoothly | 12:26 |
James2 | ah cool | 12:26 |
qwebirc73479 | thanks for your help and advice on not upgrading to 11.04 | 12:26 |
James2 | any idea why a frontend would be blank | 12:26 |
James2 | and not responding | 12:26 |
James2 | just how much data does a frontend pull from the backend on startup? | 12:26 |
qwebirc73479 | when I run the front end on my laptop (via wifi) it can take anywhere between 2-6 minutes | 12:27 |
qwebirc73479 | not sure on the amount of data it pulls | 12:27 |
James2 | "the front end crashed unexpectedly (exit code 137) | 12:29 |
James2 | and then reloads automatically | 12:29 |
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TandyUK | ok i have done 2 clean installs of mythbuntu in the last 3 days, rom the same disk | 14:17 |
TandyUK | one is primary backend and frontent, the other is a secondary backend and frontend | 14:17 |
TandyUK | they have completely different themes, and on the second theme chooser doesnt even list the one the primary is using as an option | 14:17 |
TandyUK | wtf? | 14:17 |
rileyp | TandyUK: its you its not the disk | 14:19 |
TandyUK | and wow mythtv is slow over a vpn link (1mb link, with 35ms ping) | 14:19 |
TandyUK | well i hvent chosen a theme on either of them | 14:19 |
TandyUK | so what does it do, pick one at random?> | 14:19 |
rileyp | default is terra isnt it? | 14:19 |
rileyp | with mythbuntu | 14:20 |
TandyUK | surely id expect the same themes to be available though | 14:20 |
rileyp | did you run an update on 1 | 14:20 |
TandyUK | they are both as up to date as can be | 14:20 |
TandyUK | ive followed the same process on both | 14:20 |
rileyp | sec backends are more trouble than joy in my experience | 14:21 |
TandyUK | dont think i want the sec backend for tv tho lol | 14:21 |
TandyUK | my primary backend is buried | 14:21 |
rileyp | as teh recording are only avaible while its switched on unless you record everything on the master | 14:21 |
TandyUK | the secondary frontend, is in the users lounge, and will have 2 vcr's attached to it for converting vhs tapes to digital format | 14:21 |
TandyUK | it has no 'tv' tuners | 14:22 |
rileyp | err ok vhs yuk | 14:22 |
TandyUK | yeah lol | 14:22 |
TandyUK | the user has several hundred old vhs movies to convert | 14:22 |
rileyp | i run a 1080 projector on a screen 3 long a vhs tape would look like a sand pit on it | 14:23 |
TandyUK | then theyll get vido editing treatment on a different machine | 14:23 |
rileyp | thats 3 m long | 14:23 |
TandyUK | yeahwould look proper ugly on that lol | 14:23 |
TandyUK | the attraction of using myth for it, is the videos are all 3 hours long, | 14:24 |
TandyUK | so we can just tell myth to record from source X for 3 hours, job done | 14:24 |
TandyUK | then he has fun and games editing using LiVES on another machine | 14:25 |
rileyp | bettor off downloading said movie | 14:25 |
TandyUK | said movie only exists on vhs | 14:25 |
rileyp | unles its home movie | 14:25 |
TandyUK | or id say exactly the same thing :P | 14:25 |
TandyUK | and theres about 400 of them lol | 14:25 |
TandyUK | i wont tell you what the content is, Zinn might ban me lol | 14:26 |
Zinn | Hi TandyUK, something I can help you with today? I am a bot, use !help to see what I can do. | 14:26 |
rileyp | combo vhsmachine/dvd burner and sell when finished hit play and rec and done ? remove tab from vhs tape auto eject when finshed insert next tape and dvd | 14:27 |
TandyUK | no because they are up to 20 years old, and will need some remastering | 14:28 |
TandyUK | so it needs a stage between the vhs and dvd parts | 14:28 |
TandyUK | but that is the general idea, yeah | 14:28 |
TandyUK | they may also get edited, with selected scenes from different movies being turned into a new movie | 14:29 |
rileyp | so you need the best vcr player you can find and connect to to video camera and then firewire to pc or buy a tv card with component or just svideo in | 14:30 |
TandyUK | yeah | 14:30 |
TandyUK | a myth tv with a pvr-500 in it | 14:30 |
TandyUK | with 2 vcrs attached to speed up the process | 14:30 |
TandyUK | oh and bonus, the mythtv can also play any content from the master backend in glorious 1080p on his 50" plasma screen | 14:31 |
TandyUK | so stop trying to suggest worse ideas lol | 14:32 |
rileyp | haha | 14:32 |
TandyUK | having spent about £5000 on various things (including a vcr/dvdr combo, various windows based video input cards/usb devices/etc), and about 8 years | 14:33 |
TandyUK | this IS the finall solution ;) | 14:33 |
TandyUK | and umpteen pc upgrades lol | 14:33 |
TandyUK | the last bit is a nice media center case to put the 2nd backend in | 14:33 |
TandyUK | its the old primary backend, which i just replaced with a i7 quad core with 6gb ram | 14:34 |
TandyUK | and a 4tb raid 6 array | 14:34 |
TandyUK | that should handle 4 dvb-s2 streams lol | 14:35 |
TandyUK | i was testing it last night doing 11 simultaneous recordings, 4 simultaneus ad stripping and transcoding jobs | 14:35 |
TandyUK | and it once peaked out at 20% cpu use lol | 14:35 |
TandyUK | i *think* it should be ok for the next 10 years :P | 14:36 |
rileyp | lol i has atom 1.6 be and could record 12 channels at once I did com flagging in teh ear;y hours and nver bothred with transcoding | 14:51 |
TandyUK | lol | 14:51 |
TandyUK | perhaps i did overspec the new backend a touch then :P | 14:51 |
rileyp | DVBt in au so mpeg2 goes straight to disk | 14:51 |
TandyUK | but the 3ghz i7 and gigabyte mobo were eon special offer | 14:52 |
rileyp | nice setup I must admit | 14:52 |
rileyp | overkill but at least you can do whatever you want whenever you want no problem | 14:53 |
TandyUK | http://www.dvbshop.net/product_info.php/info/p2318_Mystique-SaTiX-S2-V2-CI-Dual--2xDVB-S2-CI-HDTV-MPEG4-H-264.html | 14:59 |
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TandyUK | thats the dual dvb-s2 card, plus the master backen has a nova-t 500 | 14:59 |
TandyUK | the second backend has a pvr-500 | 14:59 |
TandyUK | the original card we used with myth, before dvb was common : | 14:59 |
TandyUK | and of them ll i still thinnk the pvr-500 gives the best picture (given a decent source ofc) thanks to its hardware mpeg2 encoders | 15:00 |
TandyUK | ICE default IO error handler doing an exit(), pid = 1684, errno = 32 | 15:14 |
TandyUK | my second frontend wont start, any ideas what that is? | 15:14 |
TandyUK | ah X problem | 15:16 |
TandyUK | BlackCurves-OSD) is missing a themeinfo.xml file (and Gray-OSD) | 15:18 |
TandyUK | ok, so why would this frontend be missing the MythBuntu theme? | 15:20 |
TandyUK | its using Terra instead | 15:20 |
TandyUK | 2011-05-28 15:22:30.500 RingBuf(myth://192.168.48.221:6543/1011_20110528152211.mpg) Warning: Taking too long to be allowed to read.. | 15:22 |
TandyUK | dammit so you mean i cant watch live tv over a 1mbps vpn, that just sucks :P | 15:23 |
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TandyUK^2 | "apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras" wants to remove libavcodec52 and libavutil50. are these required by nythbuntu for normal operation? | 16:03 |
TandyUK^2 | or without it, how do i play mp3's with mythmusic? | 16:03 |
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