[00:17] can i use that with some kind of hack to make a combined frontend/backend give the backend an extra few seconds to load before the frontend connects [00:18] <+kormoc> James2^2, just add a sleep to your startup script? [00:18] im new to ubuntu, which script actually starts the frontend? [02:45] "apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras" wants to remove libavcodec52 and libavutil50. are these required by nythbuntu for normal operation? [02:45] or without it, how do i play mp3's with mythmusic? === Captainkrtek1 is now known as Captainkrtek === hpeter_ is now known as hpeter === duron23 is now known as iamfarooq [10:47] I have MythTV 0.24 using mythbuntu 11.04. I also use the MCE remote, whenever I press down it jumps 2 instead of one. is that a known error? [11:41] gandalfcome, run your apt updates [11:41] there is a fix in updates === TandyUK is now known as James2 [11:56] hey guys [11:58] during setup, on graphics options, does HDMI output count as tv out? [11:58] I have just installed the repo on my 10.04 machine and about to move to 0.24. When doing the upgrade is it best to do a apt-get dist-upgrade or just apt-get updgrade? I notice just using upgrade it doesn't want to remove libmyth0.23 [11:58] qwebirc73479: dont do it imho [11:59] well are you staying to 10.04 or wanting to upgrade the whole system to 11.04 as well? [11:59] just changing the mythtv repo should be ok, but if you want to upgrade the distro be prepared for some fun [12:00] i tried it a few days ago, upgrading from 10.04 with 0.23.x, did a backup first, did the upg to 0.24.x, then dist upgrade to 10.10, then to 11.04 [12:00] just staying at 10.04 [12:00] the machine ended borked [12:01] you should be ok then, but still do a backup first imho [12:01] I have some iso images I want to play but am using storage groups, so that is my motivation for going to 0.24 [12:01] if you do "apt-get dist-upgrade" you are telling it to upgrade yo to 10.10 [12:01] so do "apt-get upgrade" [12:02] once it finishes, do it again [12:02] ah ok, and if I get a libmyth error remove libmyth0.23 manually? [12:02] no [12:02] ok, I'll do the apt-get upgrade [12:02] thanks [12:03] i noticed it didnt upgradee everything first time, it took a couple of runs to update everything [12:04] then i did the 10.10 update which seemed to work, but 10.10 to 11.04 i will never recommend to anyone lol [12:04] 3 days later im still configuring the system [12:04] I think I will be staying clear of 11.04 [12:04] 11.04 itself is cool [12:04] having installed clean from an iso [12:05] im just setting up my new secondary backend atm [12:06] anyone know about the "master backend info" page of setup [12:06] i have put in my pin, but it definiitely wont see my backend [12:06] i assume its looking at my local subnet, not the other building subnet where the master is [12:06] anyway i can tell it where to find it? [12:07] (this will b in the same building once configured) [12:09] well it continued ok :P [12:09] just connection test moaned about "couldnt find db logins" [12:20] ah cool, on first boot it pops up upnp failed and lets me specify the logins :) [12:25] James2 just to let you know apt-get upgrade didn't work [12:26] I needed to do an apt-get dist-upgrade because I was upgrading major package versions of mythtv [12:26] works flawlessly now [12:26] upgrade went smoothly [12:26] ah cool [12:26] thanks for your help and advice on not upgrading to 11.04 [12:26] any idea why a frontend would be blank [12:26] and not responding [12:26] just how much data does a frontend pull from the backend on startup? [12:27] when I run the front end on my laptop (via wifi) it can take anywhere between 2-6 minutes [12:27] not sure on the amount of data it pulls [12:29] "the front end crashed unexpectedly (exit code 137) [12:29] and then reloads automatically === James is now known as Guest31539 === Guest31539 is now known as TandyUK === TandyUK is now known as James2 === James2 is now known as TandyUK [14:17] ok i have done 2 clean installs of mythbuntu in the last 3 days, rom the same disk [14:17] one is primary backend and frontent, the other is a secondary backend and frontend [14:17] they have completely different themes, and on the second theme chooser doesnt even list the one the primary is using as an option [14:17] wtf? [14:19] TandyUK: its you its not the disk [14:19] and wow mythtv is slow over a vpn link (1mb link, with 35ms ping) [14:19] well i hvent chosen a theme on either of them [14:19] so what does it do, pick one at random?> [14:19] default is terra isnt it? [14:20] with mythbuntu [14:20] surely id expect the same themes to be available though [14:20] did you run an update on 1 [14:20] they are both as up to date as can be [14:20] ive followed the same process on both [14:21] sec backends are more trouble than joy in my experience [14:21] dont think i want the sec backend for tv tho lol [14:21] my primary backend is buried [14:21] as teh recording are only avaible while its switched on unless you record everything on the master [14:21] the secondary frontend, is in the users lounge, and will have 2 vcr's attached to it for converting vhs tapes to digital format [14:22] it has no 'tv' tuners [14:22] err ok vhs yuk [14:22] yeah lol [14:22] the user has several hundred old vhs movies to convert [14:23] i run a 1080 projector on a screen 3 long a vhs tape would look like a sand pit on it [14:23] then theyll get vido editing treatment on a different machine [14:23] thats 3 m long [14:23] yeahwould look proper ugly on that lol [14:24] the attraction of using myth for it, is the videos are all 3 hours long, [14:24] so we can just tell myth to record from source X for 3 hours, job done [14:25] then he has fun and games editing using LiVES on another machine [14:25] bettor off downloading said movie [14:25] said movie only exists on vhs [14:25] unles its home movie [14:25] or id say exactly the same thing :P [14:25] and theres about 400 of them lol [14:26] i wont tell you what the content is, Zinn might ban me lol [14:26] Hi TandyUK, something I can help you with today? I am a bot, use !help to see what I can do. [14:27] combo vhsmachine/dvd burner and sell when finished hit play and rec and done ? remove tab from vhs tape auto eject when finshed insert next tape and dvd [14:28] no because they are up to 20 years old, and will need some remastering [14:28] so it needs a stage between the vhs and dvd parts [14:28] but that is the general idea, yeah [14:29] they may also get edited, with selected scenes from different movies being turned into a new movie [14:30] so you need the best vcr player you can find and connect to to video camera and then firewire to pc or buy a tv card with component or just svideo in [14:30] yeah [14:30] a myth tv with a pvr-500 in it [14:30] with 2 vcrs attached to speed up the process [14:31] oh and bonus, the mythtv can also play any content from the master backend in glorious 1080p on his 50" plasma screen [14:32] so stop trying to suggest worse ideas lol [14:32] haha [14:33] having spent about £5000 on various things (including a vcr/dvdr combo, various windows based video input cards/usb devices/etc), and about 8 years [14:33] this IS the finall solution ;) [14:33] and umpteen pc upgrades lol [14:33] the last bit is a nice media center case to put the 2nd backend in [14:34] its the old primary backend, which i just replaced with a i7 quad core with 6gb ram [14:34] and a 4tb raid 6 array [14:35] that should handle 4 dvb-s2 streams lol [14:35] i was testing it last night doing 11 simultaneous recordings, 4 simultaneus ad stripping and transcoding jobs [14:35] and it once peaked out at 20% cpu use lol [14:36] i *think* it should be ok for the next 10 years :P [14:51] lol i has atom 1.6 be and could record 12 channels at once I did com flagging in teh ear;y hours and nver bothred with transcoding [14:51] lol [14:51] perhaps i did overspec the new backend a touch then :P [14:51] DVBt in au so mpeg2 goes straight to disk [14:52] but the 3ghz i7 and gigabyte mobo were eon special offer [14:52] nice setup I must admit [14:53] overkill but at least you can do whatever you want whenever you want no problem [14:59] http://www.dvbshop.net/product_info.php/info/p2318_Mystique-SaTiX-S2-V2-CI-Dual--2xDVB-S2-CI-HDTV-MPEG4-H-264.html [14:59] [www.dvbshop.net] Mystique SaTiX-S2 V2 CI Dual, 2xDVB-S2 CI HDTV/MPEG4/H.264 - DVBSHOP - Technotrend,Mystique,Anysee,Digital Devices,Tevii,Shop [14:59] thats the dual dvb-s2 card, plus the master backen has a nova-t 500 [14:59] the second backend has a pvr-500 [14:59] the original card we used with myth, before dvb was common : [15:00] and of them ll i still thinnk the pvr-500 gives the best picture (given a decent source ofc) thanks to its hardware mpeg2 encoders [15:14] ICE default IO error handler doing an exit(), pid = 1684, errno = 32 [15:14] my second frontend wont start, any ideas what that is? [15:16] ah X problem [15:18] BlackCurves-OSD) is missing a themeinfo.xml file (and Gray-OSD) [15:20] ok, so why would this frontend be missing the MythBuntu theme? [15:20] its using Terra instead [15:22] 2011-05-28 15:22:30.500 RingBuf(myth://192.168.48.221:6543/1011_20110528152211.mpg) Warning: Taking too long to be allowed to read.. [15:23] dammit so you mean i cant watch live tv over a 1mbps vpn, that just sucks :P === TandyUK is now known as TandyUK^2 === TandyUK^2 is now known as TandyUK === James2^2 is now known as TandyUK^2 [16:03] "apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras" wants to remove libavcodec52 and libavutil50. are these required by nythbuntu for normal operation? [16:03] or without it, how do i play mp3's with mythmusic?