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dmcglone1yup :-)00:00
Unit193pidgin...00:00
dmcglone1dang I spelled it wrong again00:01
Unit193pidgin - multi-protocol instant messaging client00:03
dmcglone1Unit193: correct :-)00:04
jgouldPiegon - A Bird that shits on your car00:05
jgould(and I misspelled it)00:05
jgouldXD00:05
dmcglone1haha jgould00:06
Unit193I learned bodhi can break all the rules and I shouldn't speak around him... (Part of that was a PM)... OK... (Not hard feelings agenst him)00:11
jgouldWhy can bodhi break all the rules?00:12
* dmcglone1 has no clue who bodhi is :-/00:14
Unit193Overstatement to carry more weight :D00:14
Unit193bodhi_zazen00:14
jgouldWe're going out to dinner,  be back in a bit00:14
Unit193> #lubuntu00:14
dmcglone1Oh. well I feel sorry 4 you guys hanging out in there ;-)00:15
Unit193dmcglone1: Why is that?00:15
dmcglone1it's lubuntu. Come on! ;-)00:15
Unit193Said the guy using Gnome...00:16
dmcglone1lol00:16
Unit193:D00:16
dmcglone1I use Genome not Gnome00:16
* dmcglone1 wants a cup of coffee but is stuck on the floor :-/00:18
dmcglone1I'm about to attempt to get up and see how the back responds00:19
* canthus13 yawnses.00:33
Unit193Talk about a little spam...00:47
Unit193canthus13: Not going to join the Zenix forums?00:48
canthus13Unit193: I don't really do forums....00:54
dmcglone1I don't like forums myself canthus1300:54
Unit193I don't much either...00:55
* canthus13 hits ubuntuforums.org for help and to help occasionally, but other than that....00:55
* Unit193 isn't a member of UF...00:55
dmcglone1I don't think I've ever even seen the forums00:56
canthus13dmcglone1: They're helpful when looking for a fix for something.00:57
dmcglone1Ah I know what your talking about now. the forums come up a lot when searching google for ubuntu specific problems00:58
canthus13Yup.  I think jacob had something to do with putting them together, iirc.00:58
dmcglone1thats cool00:59
dmcglone1Unit193: you get that script running?01:04
dmcglone1did anyone else download it?01:05
Unit193dmcglone1: I'll try it, but I'll have to import the DB first01:16
dmcglone1it's easy, use phpmyadmin01:17
Unit193dmcglone1: Blog is dead? ( canthus13 yours too?)01:25
dmcglone1it's not dead, I'm freakin lazy.. LOL01:26
dmcglone1sorry01:26
canthus13Unit193: Not dead... I'm just lazy. :)01:26
dmcglone1LOL canthus1301:26
dmcglone1you mockin me now?01:26
canthus13dmcglone1: No... I didn't see your response until I typed that. :)01:27
dmcglone1lol just jivin with ya :-)01:31
dmcglone1I guess we think alike :-)01:31
* Cheri703 is so bored I'm watching an uwe boll movie -_-01:32
canthus13We're that boring? :(01:33
Cheri703yes, yes you are01:33
Cheri703Bloodrayne The Third Reich -_-01:34
canthus13Cheri703: I liked Bloodrayne...01:35
Cheri703the first one was reasonable, by the 3rd? ....no01:35
canthus13Now I've gotta download the other two. :/01:36
Cheri703one has a castle, one is like western / cowboy whatever, and this one has "nazzies" as she says it >.<01:38
Cheri703aaaand titties01:38
Cheri703aaaand semi-lesbian scene >.< ah uwe boll...so predictable01:38
canthus13Heh.01:38
Cheri703hooray vlc and ctrl+arrow to skip a minute at a time01:41
* Cheri703 has no desire to watch soft porn within a crappy movie01:43
canthus13Cheri703: you're not the target audience... :)01:44
Cheri703true01:44
Unit193canthus13: You are01:44
canthus13Unit193: :D01:44
Cheri703the next movie in line doesn't look much better01:44
Cheri703http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1477675/01:44
canthus13It stars 50 cent. what do you expect?01:45
canthus13..And Val Kilmer. Ugh.01:45
Cheri703heh, yeah01:46
Cheri703THIS IS HOW DESPERATE I GET FOR BACKGROUND NOISE WHEN I HAVE NO CABLE AND MY TV SHOWS ARE OFF THE AIR BEFORE NEW SEASONS START01:47
Cheri703it is horrible and sad01:47
canthus13Cheri703: You could go outside and play...01:48
Cheri703not easily...I want a trike :(01:49
Cheri703I told husband he'll have to build me one once he's a welder :)01:49
canthus13Heh.01:50
Cheri703"there is no doubt I am responsible, I need to do what needs to be done!"01:50
Cheri703-_-01:50
canthus13That sounds like an anime subtitle.01:51
Cheri703yeah01:51
canthus13Could watch anime....01:52
Cheri703no01:52
canthus13Armitage is pretty good.01:52
Cheri703meh01:53
canthus13I imagine you've prolly watched Firefly already?01:53
Cheri703I can never get into anime01:53
canthus13I can't get into most anime, but there's a few here and there that I've liked.01:53
Cheri703yes, twice through in the past year actually, once alone, once to introduce husband01:53
canthus13Dr. Who? Torchwood?01:53
Cheri703have watched all Dr. who since christopher eccleston, all torchwood except the newest01:54
Cheri703though I'm not caught up on the current season of dr who, I suppose I could look for those01:54
canthus13The current season rocks.01:54
Cheri703kk01:54
canthus13They've been quite the mindf*ck so far. :)01:54
canthus13Stargate SG-1, Atlantis, and Universe.. that's about 20 seasons worth of shows.01:55
Cheri703have watched all of those01:56
Cheri703(though stopped with sg1 at the point that atlantis broke off, because I remember them getting crappy once the ori and whatnot showed up)01:56
canthus13Futurama...01:56
canthus13Hercules/Xena...01:57
Cheri703meh, I never got into futurama or the simpsons, hate family guy01:57
Cheri703oooo, used to watch those01:57
Cheri703might take a look01:57
canthus13I've been working my way through hercules. :)01:57
Cheri703:)01:57
canthus13...and I've got Xena waiting after that.01:57
canthus13Almost 100 gigs between the two.01:58
Cheri703ooo, about a year and a half ago I went through all seasons (and movies) of "the pretender"01:58
Cheri703I used to love that show when I was younger01:58
canthus13Ooo... Forgot about that one.01:58
Cheri703they were ALL on hulu at that point01:58
canthus13I believe my parents have all the episodes on DVD.  I should rip them.01:58
Cheri703which came first? xena or hercules?01:59
canthus13Hercules.02:00
canthus13Xena shows up at some point in the first 2 or 3 seasons.02:00
canthus13Kicks his butt a few times,c auses all sorts of trouble.. then turns good.02:00
Cheri703ah, gotcha02:00
canthus13bah... < 400GB left on my media server. :(02:01
Cheri703hehe, I only have a 320gb drive in mine02:02
Cheri703I tend to watch and delete02:02
Cheri703only save stuff I really would watch again OR would pass on to others02:02
Unit193What's the server running?02:02
canthus13Debian Lenny.02:02
Cheri703well, server shmerver02:02
Cheri703it's a desktop that I use as a server02:02
* canthus13 needs to add a couple of more drives.02:03
Cheri703canthus13: where do the tv movies fit in chronologically with hercules?02:05
Cheri703holy f this movie is horrible02:06
Cheri703it's like a bad community college theater class02:07
canthus13All before the shows, I believe.02:07
Cheri703ah, ok02:08
canthus13and the 4th movie is really just a recap of the previous 3 iirc.02:08
Cheri703heh02:09
dmcglone1I am bored!02:11
dmcglone1lol02:11
Cheri703me too02:11
dmcglone1smack me Cheri70302:12
* Cheri703 won't say she isn't into that, but not with non-spouse ;)02:12
dmcglone1Oh jeez, I meant smack me to make the boredom go away02:12
Cheri703hehe02:12
canthus13...That would make the boredom go away. :)02:13
dmcglone1I know now I will need to start clarifying things better02:13
* Cheri703 is in a weird mood02:13
* dmcglone1 is always in a weird mood02:13
* canthus13 is weird.02:13
* dmcglone1 was born weird02:13
* dmcglone1 takes weird to a hole new level02:14
canthus13Oh.. now you bring up holes.02:14
dmcglone1oh shit!02:15
canthus13Heh.02:15
dmcglone1Whole that is02:15
canthus13good old Freud...02:15
Unit193Good dmy02:15
Cheri703I don't know if I can stand another 15 minutes of this (it is almost over)02:15
dmcglone1well thanks Cheri703, just trying to liven things up ;-)02:16
Cheri703it is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo bad02:16
Cheri703dmcglone1: this craptastic movie02:16
dmcglone1freakin friday night and we are pathetic02:16
Unit193What's wrong with this? TC show and computers...02:17
Cheri703>.< they're in a truck taking them to their deaths in berlin and so that is OBVIOUSLY an ideal time to strip down and get busy o.O02:17
dmcglone1Cheri703: watching craptastic movies, I'm stuck on the floor with a bad back, canthus13 well.....02:17
canthus13Cheri703: Of course... Gotta get rid of any extra weight, and warm up so you can run.02:17
Unit193He has overtime...02:17
Cheri703mmhm02:17
canthus13Sounds reasonable to me.02:17
* canthus13 quit running naked soon after college... :/02:18
dmcglone1sounds like a shitty horror movie where the victim runs for miles and the killer just walks and still catches them02:18
* Cheri703 has all kinds of responses but isn't going to go into that because this is a family friendly channel02:18
Cheri703at least generally02:18
Unit193*supposed to be02:19
Cheri703shield your eyes Unit19302:19
canthus13Heh.02:19
Unit193Ziw...02:19
dmcglone1I'm pretty sure Unit193 knows what "craptastic" means ;-)02:20
dmcglone1Couldn't be no worse than paul rippin the F word like 50,000 times in one conversation ;-)02:21
Cheri703last line of the movie "guten tag mother f-ers"  said without any hint of the intermittent accent that she sort of tried to have at points in the movie and gave up on at others...02:23
dmcglone1My back is starting to feel very good :-)02:23
Cheri703now for a movie starring 50 cent and val kilmer, SURE to be a winner >.>02:24
dmcglone1but It's got me worried, cause now when I walk, I can feel my spine poping a little02:24
canthus13Cheri703: Ever watch Band of Brothers?02:24
dmcglone1I hate 50 cent02:24
Cheri703back in the day02:24
canthus13That's definitely worth a second watch... and The Pacific is almost as good.02:25
Unit193dmcglone1: That is really annoying when paul does that...02:25
dmcglone1I watch "The Goonies" :-)02:26
dmcglone1I'm a goonie02:26
canthus13Band of Brothers was when I realized that Donnie Wahlberg was a pretty good actor.02:26
dmcglone1isn't he from that kiddie band "new kids on the block"?02:27
canthus13Yep.02:27
canthus13He's done some really good acting work...02:27
Cheri703it's not a kiddie band, it's a "women in their 30's who used to listen to them and still do" band02:27
* Cheri703 had a roommate obsessed with them02:27
canthus13My sister and the girl across the street went to all their concerts when I lived in Missouri.02:29
dmcglone1Cheri703: you coming out of the closet?02:29
dmcglone1lol02:29
Cheri703ha, no02:29
dmcglone1I liked 2 of their songs, hangin tough and please don't go :-)02:30
canthus13dmcglone1: she's staying in the closet.02:30
dmcglone1I liked Vanilla Ice!02:31
dmcglone1LOL02:31
Unit193canthus13: And why not? You have so much more fun in there...02:31
dmcglone1LOL Unit19302:31
dmcglone1you bad... LOL02:31
dmcglone1I love Vanilla Ice's Ice Ice Baby with the Miami drop mix02:32
dmcglone1it's psychedelic!02:33
canthus13Unit193: Closets are kinda cramped...02:33
Unit193canthus13: You haven't been in the right ones...02:33
Unit193And that sounded bad....02:33
canthus13Unit193: You haven't been to the parties I've been to.  I've met some...interesting...closets. :)02:34
* canthus13 spent 24 hours using recreational substances in a closet one time.02:34
Unit193o_002:34
* jgould blinks02:35
canthus13jgould: heh.02:35
canthus13jgould: you picked a perfect moment to pop in.02:35
jgouldI noticed...02:36
jgouldstupid Apple networking hardware...02:37
jgouldHey Erk02:38
TheErkGood evening.02:38
Cheri703o/02:40
TheErkHow is everyone?02:41
dmcglone1Doing good TheErk02:41
Cheri703BORED02:41
dmcglone1still bound to the floor with my back, but otherwise good02:41
dmcglone1I'm about to take this EXCITING party upstairs and relax! ;-)02:44
Cheri703wow I can't even understand half of what 50 cent is saying02:44
Cheri703he mumbles a lot02:44
dmcglone1Cheri703: thats cuz he's always got a dick in his mouth!02:45
Cheri703...really? was that necessary?02:45
dmcglone1Yes!02:45
dmcglone1I hate him02:45
Cheri703it's because he got shot in the mouth when he was younger02:45
Cheri703even if you hate him that wasn't really a necessary comment02:45
dmcglone1well if he wasn't slinging drugs and prostituting women he wouldn't have got shot02:46
Cheri703entirely possible02:46
Cheri703but homophobic slurs aren't really useful to anyone02:46
dmcglone1oh well02:46
dmcglone1You get upset with me when I joke about women but you defend him when he swipes credit cards between a womans ass cheeks on television02:49
TheErk...02:50
jgouldO.o02:51
TheErkTHAT's why he sounds like that.02:51
TheErkI knew it was something like that.02:51
jgouldI've never heard him talk02:53
Cheri703didn't say I'm defending him at all02:53
Cheri703just don't appreciate the homophobic slurs02:53
Cheri703though I do appreciate the line "I love you like a fat kid loves cake" :)02:53
jgouldI've seen faces that only a mother could love when I work, and those happen quite often02:54
Cheri703those what?02:55
jgouldfaces02:55
TheErkBTW.. how does stating he has a penis in his mouth constitute homophobia?02:56
TheErkI'm fine if he has a penis in his mouth.02:56
TheErkI just think he should take it out before recording.02:56
Cheri703the inference that he's gay as a pejorative02:56
Unit193This is supposed to be a family friendly channel is what's wrong with it (not homophobia)02:57
Cheri703that too02:57
TheErkMy family would be fine with this conversation.  :-D02:57
Cheri703youngsters show up sometimes02:57
Cheri703as well as people from varying backgrounds02:57
jgouldthis is  true02:58
Cheri703the whole idea is to be WELCOMING02:58
Cheri703and if I'd just logged in and seen that comment, I'd be like, "whoa....leaving"02:58
jgouldheh. the dog jumped on the couch and took out my magsafe connector....02:58
Unit193^^ That's family friendly02:59
canthus13Meh. 50 cent got shot years ago, still whines about it. Teddy Roosevelt got shot giving a speech, kept giving the speech.02:59
Cheri703eh, all I said was that he got shot and it impacted his speech02:59
Cheri703ooo, to tie together the two concepts: I had a friend whose dog got shot by their idiot neighbors03:00
canthus13Unit193: Homophobia is just as wrong and annoying...03:00
Cheri703they shot her a ton of times with a pellet gun03:00
Cheri703it was horrible, the pellets embedded in her skin03:00
Cheri703she had to have a ton of surgery and almost lost an eye03:00
canthus13Cheri703: My cat had one in her neck from neighborhood kids. :/03:00
Cheri703it was one of the higher powered oens03:01
Cheri703*ones03:01
Cheri703this movie has the guy who played nathan stark in eureka03:01
* jgould is bored03:04
Cheri703+986957659876903:04
* jgould runs around the room screaming just to do something03:04
canthus13jgould: don't look for entertainment here... we're all boring.03:04
jgouldHe03:05
jgouldh03:05
jgouldI wonder if I would get something accomplished at my desk rather than the couch...03:07
Cheri703my couch is my desk generally03:07
jgouldI haven't sat at my desk in a week.  It's feeling neglected03:07
* jgould still thinks that if you remove a meta package it should remove everything that was installed by that package...03:08
Cheri703agreed03:10
jgouldhmm, Looks like Stella and Company are in Madeira now, and that Stell will get my email in a few weeks when they get back...03:10
Cheri703aaand now we have a gross and old and fat val kilmer03:10
jgouldhmm... I wonder why I have things like the middle of my top panel disapper from time to time...03:11
canthus13jgould: do they disappear? Or do they just rearrange themselves?03:12
Unit193Why vot?03:12
jgoulddisappear.  I can see my background in this, oh 3 inch gap right before my notificaion area starts...03:12
canthus13huh. Mine just rearrange themselves on every boot. :/03:17
jgouldI'm using the default gnome menu now rahter than the customized Ubuntu one03:20
canthus13jgould: so canonical is punishing you for not liking their setup.03:21
jgouldHeh...  now it's filled in... I dont' get it03:22
dmcglone1LOL we all have complained we are board jgould03:23
dmcglone1I was uploading some files for Unit193 and I to mess around with, and about to start writing my nomination for Cheri703 and send it03:24
Cheri703any former smokers? which is better: patch or gum?03:24
Cheri703even though I bust your chops dmcglone1? ;)03:25
dmcglone1Yup03:25
Unit193Cheri703: We still haven't heard from SMK03:25
Cheri703true Unit19303:26
Unit193Defaults do you?03:26
dmcglone1my nomination goes to Cheri703 cuz she bullys me and she held a gun to my head and threatened to torment me for the rest of my life if I didn't vote for her03:27
Cheri703:D03:27
jgouldHeh03:27
Unit193dmcglone1: Encrypt your vote!03:27
Unit193How do you think I'm going to get away with doing it? ;)03:28
jgouldok... I just had part of my terminal window disappear...03:29
dmcglone1Unit193: Yup I'm gonna encrypt it with kick ass plain text :-)03:30
dmcglone1the best disguise is plain sight03:31
jgouldIt would be nice if Gmail would let you sign your mail...03:35
canthus13firegpg used to work with gmail...03:35
jgouldYeah, teh dev got tired of gmail breaking it with each change03:35
* Unit193 just uses Alpine/Thunderbird for that03:38
jgouldI've actually grown fond of using the web interface...03:39
jgould(Although if Thunderbird would have a unified inbox, taht woudl make me happier too03:40
jgouldHmm... I think my thorat is starting to get sore03:49
canthus13jgould: beer fixes that.03:49
Unit193canthus13 thinks beer fixes everything...03:51
dmcglone1so do I Unit19303:52
canthus13Unit193: No I don't.03:53
* canthus13 has never attempted to fix his car with beer.03:53
canthus13Or my computer.03:53
dmcglone1beer: helping people have sex since 180003:53
dmcglone1;-)03:53
* canthus13 never needed beer for that.03:53
dmcglone1viagra is crap, just drink a lot of beer :-)03:54
jgouldI'll stick to orange juice...  I don't drink.  We could have a 6 pack in the fridge for 6 months before it's all gone03:54
Unit193dmcglone1: Beer gives you issues with that03:54
dmcglone1not me ;-)03:55
* jgould bashes his head into the wall03:56
dmcglone1looks like jgould already has had a few ;-)03:57
dmcglone1watching a show about Alaska. I'd hate to live there03:58
jgouldHeh03:58
jgouldTheir summers are like ours03:58
* canthus13 would *LOVE* to live in AK... :)03:58
dmcglone1but their winters are dark and cold03:58
dmcglone1Alaska has the highest depression rate in people in the USA03:59
canthus13dmcglone1: I don't mind cold and dark winters. :)03:59
* canthus13 likes 'em, actually.03:59
dmcglone1alaska is dark 6 months out of the year03:59
Unit193Cold....Mmmmm...03:59
canthus13I know.03:59
jgouldI hate cold03:59
Unit193Heat is bad...03:59
dmcglone1so do I jgould03:59
jgouldCold is good for computers, bad for us... (although when it's 90 you can only take off so many layers leaglally...04:00
canthus13Woohoo! Son of Slam...04:04
* Cheri703 would be SO HAPPY if husband actually quits smoking this time04:05
canthus13ohwow... Son of Slam is still around?04:05
dmcglone1Cheri703: why not just join him and light one up :-)04:06
Cheri703nope04:06
jgoulddamnit...  I can't install Enigmail because it's 32 bit, and Thunderbird is 64 Bit...04:06
dmcglone1my wife doesn't smoke either04:07
canthus13Cheri703: Quitting is tough... Took me several tries and about 18 years.04:07
dmcglone1I quit every night..... When I go to bed :-)04:07
Cheri703yeah, I was not ok with him starting in the first place (he used to, but had quit and was smoke-free when I met him / we started dating, then he started again04:07
dmcglone1I can see why... LMAO04:08
* dmcglone1 sticks his face out so Cheri703 can slap it!04:09
* Cheri703 kicks dmcglone1 in the face04:09
dmcglone1LOL04:09
BiosElementLots of fighting as of late around here :P04:09
* Cheri703 challenges BiosElement to a duel04:09
dmcglone1my wife hounds me to quit smoking too, I tell her if she would shut up for 5 minutes maybe I could ;-)04:10
* BiosElement wins by default :P04:10
Cheri703nope04:10
dmcglone1I always win BiosElement, I just turn off my hearing aid :-p04:11
jgouldLOL04:11
dmcglone1Huh?04:11
dmcglone1What?04:11
dmcglone1Sorry no can hear04:11
dmcglone1:-)04:11
BiosElementHah04:12
dmcglone1I start doing non sense hand signals and light a cigarette04:15
canthus13dmcglone1: that just means you don't hear the china whizzing towards the back of your head...04:16
Cheri703+1 canthus1304:17
dmcglone1LOL Canthus, or the bowling balls :-/04:17
canthus13dmcglone1: if your wife can fling bowling balls like china, I feel for you.04:17
dmcglone1trust me she can. hasn't been at me, but I've seen her do it! LMAO04:18
dmcglone1she was pissed off at someone she bought a car off of and demolished that car with a bowling ball and sent it back to them!04:18
jgouldYou know what would be nice?  Having an actual key that sends a forward delete...04:23
Cheri703?04:24
canthus13oh.. like a reverse backspace?04:24
jgouldI dont have a delete key, just a backspace.  Delete is accomplished by fn+backspace04:25
Cheri703that would be your own fault for buying a mac04:25
jgouldAs I've said, if I knew I was going to be playing with Ubuntu, I would have gotten something else..04:25
Cheri703I'd still want a delete key if I was using not-ubuntu04:26
canthus13jgould: Oh.  I'm sure canonical would remove the delete key if they could.. you know, just to get closer to their target audience of mentally challenged snails.04:26
BiosElementcanthus13: At least canonical isn't gnome. >.>04:26
Cheri703now now canthus1304:26
Unit193skellat: Did I miss your campain?04:26
canthus13Cheri703: What?04:26
canthus13BiosElement: worse than gnome.04:27
skellatUnit193: Campaign?  I campaigned?  I must have missed that memo....04:27
BiosElementHah, now you're just trollin. >.>04:27
Cheri703quick mini-poll: how do you guys pronounce gnome? I say nome, some people say guh-nome, I've only heard one person ever say jee-nome04:27
* canthus13 is turning into one of those people who sticks around for the community, but uses a different distro.04:28
jgouldnome04:28
BiosElementcanthus13: nome04:28
canthus13Cheri703: I've heard Nome and G-nome mostly lately... It's been years since I've heard it regularly pronounced genome.04:28
skellatCheri703: Guh-No-Muh04:28
Unit193skellat: Cheri703 sent a msg to the ML (and put it on her wiki) Jacob said they were done, did I miss yours?04:29
skellatUnit193: My wiki page is here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/skellat04:29
skellatUnit193: No stump speech from me.04:29
Unit193skellat: Ah! We thought we might have missed it! (The wording really didn't work)04:30
Cheri703they said campaign, so I figured I should :)04:31
skellatCount the past two days of mailing list activity as the closest I've come to any sort of campaign04:31
Cheri703heh04:32
skellatI'm still quite baffled about the notion of punting things to regional lists that Michael Gilbert mentioned.  To the best of my knowledge, Paultag never set up any such thing for his bailiwick.04:32
skellatIf it exists, I've never heard ofi t04:32
canthus13It's a bad idea.04:33
TheErkCampaign?  Is there where two big guys showed up and said if i enjoyed walking i should vote for Cheri?04:33
canthus13as I pointed out earlier, it leaves the smaller relocos out in the cold, really.04:33
Cheri703yeah, I think it's a horrible idea04:33
* canthus13 examines TheErk's knees...04:33
Cheri703that makes it harder for people to find information04:33
skellatAs to the podcast...purely regional stuff is fine by me.  Just send me stuff via Ubuntu One to skellat@fastmail.net and I can drop it in.04:33
Cheri703as it is, it's all in the archive of the mailing list04:33
BiosElementHaving sub-lists for somethings is fine, but it's not like the list is super high traffic..04:33
jgouldI agree with skellat and Cheri70304:34
Cheri703activity is NEVER a bad thing (unless it's inane chatter between two people, then they can take it off list)04:34
skellatI'm always happen when I can get the running time on The Burning Circle above 60 seconds.04:34
Cheri703if it is involving more than 3 people's input, then it belongs on the list, in my opinion, or at least it's not "abusing" the list04:34
jgouldI'm on lists tha tgenerate 100 messages a day.... that's a high traffic list04:34
BiosElementThe discussion is moot, it's a discussion list, not an announcement list.04:35
skellatIt is merely a symbol of cultural difference.  It is like the war over top-posting and bottom-posting.  It'll never be resolved.04:35
Cheri703exactly BiosElement04:35
jgouldAgreed BiosElement04:35
canthus13careful... We're probably spamming the channel right now. :/04:35
dmcglone1why can't it be both?04:36
Cheri703it is both04:36
* skellat shakes head 04:36
jgouldMost of the stuff that comes though on most of my lists is stuff I don't care about04:36
Cheri703it is not ONLY an announcement list04:36
canthus13skellat: Heh. the last time people got upset about mailing list traffic was a silly argument over top vs bottom posting...04:36
BiosElementIt is04:36
skellatcanthus13: The best thing to do is read plenty of alt.sysadmin.recovery04:36
canthus13skellat: :D04:36
Cheri703(off topic, but I am bummed that cases for the nook (at least from B&N) won't be available til july 1, and I have no idea when 3rd party cases will come out :( and I don't want to wait 2 weeks for the nook :( and yes I'll probably complain about it til I get it, sorry :) )04:37
jgouldThat's why I buy things in stores,  I want it now, and don't want to wait04:37
skellatCheri703: Nooks and other such things count as "portable computer" in the taxonomy mix at work.  Would Unity work well on a Nook if it was properly rooted?04:38
Cheri703I don't think so, because of the e-ink screen, probably on a nook color04:38
skellatAh.04:38
canthus13Hah. A nook... possibly the only useful application for Unity.04:38
jgouldI don't think so...04:39
skellatI've been seeing Pandigital devices come and go.  Their boxes call them ebook readers but they've got basic Android functionality like any ol' tablet.04:39
* jgould has pondered getting a kindle, bu is happy wiht his Sony Reader04:39
Cheri703I'm getting the new e-ink nook04:40
* skellat is intent on never getting an e-reader and prefers to stick with paper-based codices04:40
Cheri703canthus13: someone had ubuntu running on an ipad at uds04:40
jgouldsomeone had Ubuntu running on an iPad?04:40
jgouldHeh04:40
Cheri703skellat: I'm mainly getting it for reading pdf manuals and study guides that give me headaches on the computer04:40
Cheri703jgould: the guy I was asking about your mac dilemmas04:40
canthus13Cheri703: Wow. I'll be Steve Jobs is trying to figure out a way to sure them...04:40
canthus13s/sure/sue/04:41
skellatCheri703: That's where things get me.  I end up knowing how to get print jobs done at FedexOffice all too well.04:41
Cheri703yeah, I have no desire to print a 1600 page book...04:41
Cheri703so I will get an ereader and do it that way04:41
skellatCheri703: What sort of texts are these?04:42
jgouldI already have most of my Cert manuals in PDF as well as dead tree,  I don't want to carry around a 1600 page book04:42
Cheri703there are some cert manuals, also some about learning to use various software tools04:42
Cheri703I used to read a TON as a kid, but I don't read nearly as much these days, don't like lugging around books, so I think it will help me read more general books as well04:43
jgouldCheri703: I'm with you on the reading as a kid and not reading too much now04:43
skellatI remember library school...walking around Clarion University of Pennsylvania's campus lugging all four volumes of the 21st edition of Dewey Decimal Classification plus Sears classification headings book...things were heavy and still don't have GOOD electronic counterparts.04:43
canthus13Eh? There are books that don't deal strictly with technology and how it works?04:43
jgouldLOL04:44
TheErkThat's it for me.. night peeps04:44
jgouldNight Erk04:44
skellatTheErk: Goodnight04:44
Cheri703yeah jgould, for a while I was reading a novel a week (or more) about 6-7 months ago, that was more than I'd read in YEARS, but going to the library all the time was a hassle and so I stopped :/04:44
Cheri703so this will be awesome for me04:44
jgouldAny one know if I can import my PGP key into the MacOS?04:45
canthus13jgould: I don't see why not...04:45
skellatjgould: Yes, provided you installed gnupg via MacPorts04:45
Cheri703gnupg is one of few things where I (mentally at least) pronounce the guh sound "guhnewpg" :)04:46
Cheri703and it's like a mix between pug and pig :)04:46
jgouldso it's a puggy pig?04:46
Cheri703most pugs are piggy04:46
skellatIt could be worse.  I look at gnupg and just say crypto package04:46
Cheri703hehe04:46
jgouldLOL skellat04:46
* Cheri703 may have already acquired ebook versions of the remaining books in the series she was reading voraciously several months ago04:47
Cheri703I think the gnupg thing is because I have guinea pigs, and for some reason it reminds me of them :)04:47
* skellat grew up in Slavic Village in Cleveland and knows when there can be vowel deficits making life even odder04:48
Cheri703hehe04:48
Cheri703sometimes I call the guinea pigs my "guh-piggies"04:49
canthus13guinea pigs are supposed to be pretty tasty...04:49
* canthus13 needs to find a restaurant that serves them.04:49
Cheri703there's some restaurant in cbus (or at least there was) that was the amazon grill or something, maybe they do/did04:50
canthus13Hmm...04:50
* skellat wonders if canthus13 is a Visitor from the V series04:51
Unit193You were watching that too?04:51
Unit193Mr Sunshine is the one I'm sad about....04:51
canthus13skellat: Beh. The new V sucked.04:51
* canthus13 could barely make it through 3 episodes.04:52
skellatNot everything starring Morena Baccarin can be good04:52
Cheri703my eyes are getting tired :/04:52
* canthus13 wants a reimagined Alien Nation.04:52
canthus13Cheri703: So are mine.. and it's not quite midnight yet.. weird.04:52
Cheri703I think my eyes get more tired on days I spend time outside...as sad as that is. I'm much more sensitive to light these days, especially sunlight. I need to remember my sunglasses better04:53
jgouldReally?  doing an rsync from the laptop to the server kills the networking from the lapttop?04:54
Cheri703ok boys, I'm going to read this book some more, if I don't finish it before the nook comes, I'll likely not go back to it. ping me if I'm needed04:54
skellatI gotta say goodnight too.04:55
* jgould is getting tired of having problems in Ubuntu on the MacBook04:56
dmcglone1g'night all04:56
jgouldI may have to stick to Linux on the server and go back to the Mac OS as the prrimary on the laptop...04:57
Cheri703I waited too long to start reading my book, headache :(05:05
* jgould grumbles05:09
canthus13jgould: router?05:10
jgouldSi05:10
jgouldI also just lost all networking from the laptop...05:11
Cheri703:/05:11
Unit193jgould: I had thought you would go sooner (With reason)05:11
Cheri703are you using the wifi adapter or?05:11
jgouldgo where?05:11
* canthus13 would sell the macbook for an equivalent dell or system76.05:11
jgouldThat was the wired adaptor05:12
Cheri703ah05:12
Unit193jgould: Go with another OS that works05:12
jgouldWifey says that if I sell the MacBook, I can't buy a new laptop with the money, that we have to use the money on bills...05:13
Cheri703:/05:13
Unit193Do you have a desktop?05:13
* Cheri703 would probably say that to husband...IF he had another computery toy05:13
jgouldThe Mac Mini, nothing overly portable.05:14
* Cheri703 would be ok with a direct swap, but no extra money spent on the replacement :)05:14
jgouldso what I do is buy the replacement, get it set up and running and then sell the MB05:15
jgouldAnd, Unit193, I'm pretty close to going back to the MacOS for the time being.05:16
Cheri703ah, that wouldn't fly for me05:16
Cheri703it'd be: sell mb, however much you get out of it is what you have to spend on new one :)05:16
jgouldCheri703: I would make back what I spent on machine from Sys76.  (And I'd keep my 8GB of RAM...)05:17
jgouldI would really like to know why rsync dies when backing up my ~ dir..05:19
jgouldMaybe it only died when the router hiccuped05:21
Unit193jgould: Still going to stick around if you don't get the Sys76 soon? (Just say you have an Ubuntu server)05:21
jgouldUnit193: I have two machines running Server Ed05:21
Unit193Can I have a shell account on one? :P05:22
jgould:P05:22
Cheri703you can still be here if you aren't currently using ubuntu05:22
Cheri703we won't kick anyone out05:22
jgouldThat was waht I asked BiosElement before the natty launch party thing at the library down town: Would y'all accecpt someone that was running the MacOS as a primary OS?05:23
jgouldXD05:23
Unit193Just say it's Macbuntu ;)05:24
Cheri703hopefully he had the same response!05:24
jgouldHe did05:24
Cheri703phew05:24
jgouldI've tried to drop to a console (not a terminal session) in the MacOS by pressing Ctrl+alt+f1.  It didnt' work :(05:25
Cheri703it is frustrating that to have my netbook in a place that is comfortable to type while laying down (hands around waist area), the text is just barely decipherable, and mostly only if I squint...to have the computer where I can read it easily, I have t-rex arms and type like the back of my hands are almost against my chin :/05:25
Cheri703*without my glasses on05:25
jgouldI can pretty much see nothing without my glasses05:26
Cheri703I can see maybe 18 inches clearly...on a good day05:26
canthus13Sounds familiar.05:26
Cheri703I HATE IT05:26
Cheri703I have worn bifocals since I was 2205:27
canthus13No bifocals, fortunately.05:27
Cheri703there was some older woman talking to me about wearing glasses, she was like, "yeah, I got mine when I turned 50, I hated them! I felt so old!" I went -_-05:27
* Unit193 doesn't have glasses05:27
Unit193...yet05:27
Cheri703and when I said 22, she was like "WHOA!"05:28
jgouldHmmm.... Lost the networking again from the laptop it seems05:28
jgouldCheri: I've had mine since I was 205:28
Cheri703*got mine = bifocals05:28
Cheri703bifocals?05:28
jgouldsingle vision05:29
Cheri703ah05:29
* jgould can wear kids frames05:29
jgouldstill05:29
* jgould is almost 3005:29
Cheri703yeah, when I was a kid, i was far-sighted, wore reading glasses, as I got older I became near-sighted :(05:29
jgouldMy left optic nerve didn't develop, so I'm something like 20/200 in that eye05:30
Cheri703that sounds like TheMuso05:30
Cheri703something neuropathy?05:30
Cheri703maybe?05:30
Cheri703he has very limited sight in one eye, none in the other (I believe)05:31
jgouldNope...  I was born in the 28th week of pregnancy05:32
Cheri703ah05:32
jgouldI even got my picture in the paper05:32
* jgould got a hat becuase he was a preemie05:34
Cheri703hehe05:34
canthus13all babies get hats.05:34
canthus13ugly little knit caps.05:34
jgouldI was the first baby in Riverside's NICU...  It wasn't ready for kids wehn they put me in05:34
jgouldNow they do, canthus13.  that may have started with me05:35
Cheri703that explains a LOT ;)05:35
jgould:P05:36
* jgould grumbles because his home network is un-fucking-reliable05:38
canthus13jgould: I've got a netgear router that's pretty reliable... It's yours if you can get it. :)05:41
* Unit193 is going crazy because he doesn't have enough info on both candidates to contrast them...05:44
jgouldwell that was diffrent05:47
jgouldjust my connection to the server dropped05:49
jgould_Ok... this is getting annoying05:53
Unit193There are now two of you...05:53
jgould_Yeah, session on the server, and Xchat on the laptop05:54
jgould_So you're surprised that I haven't just gone back to an OS that 'just works' yet, huh?05:58
Unit193No05:58
* jgould_ blinks05:59
Unit193With all the issues, I would have thought you would have gotten anything that worked at this point05:59
jgould_with the way this thing is acting tonight, i may be back in the MacOS by morning...06:00
jgould_It may not hurt to go back to the Mac OS and wait for 11.10 to release and try this again...06:04
BiosElementI think I worked out why nvidia hated me so much07:05
BiosElementBut I'm not exactly sure what I did to fix it >.>07:05
Unit193Welcome back!08:08
* jgould_ does not understand this and bashes his head into the desk09:17
jgould_Also, I seem to have lost my ability to right click in Firefox now...09:22
* jgould grumbles09:56
jgouldMore than one way to skin a cat...11:49
Cheri703hey canthus13: on the kevin sorbo theme: you could watch Andromeda16:05
Cheri703jgould: maybe check out cup o joe or whatever16:16
canthus13Heh... "24 astronauts were born in Ohio.  What is it about this state that makes people want to flee the Earth?"17:27
Cheri703how horrible a person would I be if I went to b&n monday, bought a "1st edition" nook, used it for 2 weeks, and then returned it for the new one?18:11
canthus13Cheri703: :)21:39
Cheri703pondering it...probably won't though21:39
Cheri703very tempted21:39
canthus13It's kinda rude....21:40
Cheri703yeah21:41
Cheri703wal-renting21:41
canthus13Heh.21:41
canthus13Never heard it called that before...21:41
Unit193Isn't Cleveland Area ReLoCo now missing it's lead? (No longer Paul T?)21:51
paultagUnit193: right :)21:52
Unit193paultag: Was trying not to ping ya21:53
paultagUnit193: you did'nt :)21:54
Unit193paultag: Nice to keep you around (In both channels ;) )21:55
paultag:)21:56
paultagBBL21:56
Cheri703you've never heard wal-rent canthus13?21:59
Cheri703(was on another window for a while, freaking lack of channel notification :( )21:59
Unit193I just ignore some of the others...22:03
* jgould wanders in23:17
Unit193Howdy hoho!23:18
jgouldo/23:18
jgouldSo, it looks like we might be getting somewhere with the location for the Cbus ReLoCo UH...23:19
Unit193I got to see some of that!23:20
jgouldI kow23:20
jgoulder I know23:20
jgouldhelps if I push the keys down...23:20
jgouldI still would prefer that ReLoCo business is handled on the main list as there doesn't seem to be any default moderation... (and you get people that don't know about the 'other' list...)23:22
Unit193I updated the wiki (kicked paultag out) if I wasn't supposed to, revert23:23
jgouldHow do you think paultag feels about being kicked out? :)23:24
Unit193He isn't crying and he didn't +b me23:25
jgouldHeh23:26
Unit193...Yet23:27
jgouldOh what I wouldn't give for the interal wifi to work...23:27
jgouldSo since I live in Columbus, do I have an excuse to not Attend OLF?23:29
Unit193Are you washing your hair that day?23:30
Unit193Or if you have a hare....23:30
Unit193Painting your driveway?23:31
* jgould blinks. Eh?23:32
jgouldDoes a Cert from LPI actually get you nayrthing?23:32
canthus13Sure. It gets you a paper saying you know your linux stuff. :)23:41
canthus13...and makes you look good if you're applying for a linux-specific job.  It's one of the more respected linux certs.23:41
jgouldI would also know my shit when it comes to my home machines too...23:42
jgouldHmm...  I want to go to Microcenter and look around...23:47
jgouldI'll be back in a bit23:49
* Unit193 hasn't been to microcenter23:51

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