[00:00] <dmcglone1> yup :-)
[00:00] <Unit193> pidgin...
[00:01] <dmcglone1> dang I spelled it wrong again
[00:03] <Unit193> pidgin - multi-protocol instant messaging client
[00:04] <dmcglone1> Unit193: correct :-)
[00:05] <jgould> Piegon - A Bird that shits on your car
[00:05] <jgould> (and I misspelled it)
[00:05] <jgould> XD
[00:06] <dmcglone1> haha jgould
[00:11] <Unit193> I learned bodhi can break all the rules and I shouldn't speak around him... (Part of that was a PM)... OK... (Not hard feelings agenst him)
[00:12] <jgould> Why can bodhi break all the rules?
[00:14]  * dmcglone1 has no clue who bodhi is :-/
[00:14] <Unit193> Overstatement to carry more weight :D
[00:14] <Unit193> bodhi_zazen
[00:14] <jgould> We're going out to dinner,  be back in a bit
[00:14] <Unit193> > #lubuntu
[00:15] <dmcglone1> Oh. well I feel sorry 4 you guys hanging out in there ;-)
[00:15] <Unit193> dmcglone1: Why is that?
[00:15] <dmcglone1> it's lubuntu. Come on! ;-)
[00:16] <Unit193> Said the guy using Gnome...
[00:16] <dmcglone1> lol
[00:16] <Unit193> :D
[00:16] <dmcglone1> I use Genome not Gnome
[00:18]  * dmcglone1 wants a cup of coffee but is stuck on the floor :-/
[00:19] <dmcglone1> I'm about to attempt to get up and see how the back responds
[00:33]  * canthus13 yawnses.
[00:47] <Unit193> Talk about a little spam...
[00:48] <Unit193> canthus13: Not going to join the Zenix forums?
[00:54] <canthus13> Unit193: I don't really do forums....
[00:54] <dmcglone1> I don't like forums myself canthus13
[00:55] <Unit193> I don't much either...
[00:55]  * canthus13 hits ubuntuforums.org for help and to help occasionally, but other than that....
[00:55]  * Unit193 isn't a member of UF...
[00:56] <dmcglone1> I don't think I've ever even seen the forums
[00:57] <canthus13> dmcglone1: They're helpful when looking for a fix for something.
[00:58] <dmcglone1> Ah I know what your talking about now. the forums come up a lot when searching google for ubuntu specific problems
[00:58] <canthus13> Yup.  I think jacob had something to do with putting them together, iirc.
[00:59] <dmcglone1> thats cool
[01:04] <dmcglone1> Unit193: you get that script running?
[01:05] <dmcglone1> did anyone else download it?
[01:16] <Unit193> dmcglone1: I'll try it, but I'll have to import the DB first
[01:17] <dmcglone1> it's easy, use phpmyadmin
[01:25] <Unit193> dmcglone1: Blog is dead? ( canthus13 yours too?)
[01:26] <dmcglone1> it's not dead, I'm freakin lazy.. LOL
[01:26] <dmcglone1> sorry
[01:26] <canthus13> Unit193: Not dead... I'm just lazy. :)
[01:26] <dmcglone1> LOL canthus13
[01:26] <dmcglone1> you mockin me now?
[01:27] <canthus13> dmcglone1: No... I didn't see your response until I typed that. :)
[01:31] <dmcglone1> lol just jivin with ya :-)
[01:31] <dmcglone1> I guess we think alike :-)
[01:32]  * Cheri703 is so bored I'm watching an uwe boll movie -_-
[01:33] <canthus13> We're that boring? :(
[01:33] <Cheri703> yes, yes you are
[01:34] <Cheri703> Bloodrayne The Third Reich -_-
[01:35] <canthus13> Cheri703: I liked Bloodrayne...
[01:35] <Cheri703> the first one was reasonable, by the 3rd? ....no
[01:36] <canthus13> Now I've gotta download the other two. :/
[01:38] <Cheri703> one has a castle, one is like western / cowboy whatever, and this one has "nazzies" as she says it >.<
[01:38] <Cheri703> aaaand titties
[01:38] <Cheri703> aaaand semi-lesbian scene >.< ah uwe boll...so predictable
[01:38] <canthus13> Heh.
[01:41] <Cheri703> hooray vlc and ctrl+arrow to skip a minute at a time
[01:43]  * Cheri703 has no desire to watch soft porn within a crappy movie
[01:44] <canthus13> Cheri703: you're not the target audience... :)
[01:44] <Cheri703> true
[01:44] <Unit193> canthus13: You are
[01:44] <canthus13> Unit193: :D
[01:44] <Cheri703> the next movie in line doesn't look much better
[01:44] <Cheri703> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1477675/
[01:45] <canthus13> It stars 50 cent. what do you expect?
[01:45] <canthus13> ..And Val Kilmer. Ugh.
[01:46] <Cheri703> heh, yeah
[01:47] <Cheri703> THIS IS HOW DESPERATE I GET FOR BACKGROUND NOISE WHEN I HAVE NO CABLE AND MY TV SHOWS ARE OFF THE AIR BEFORE NEW SEASONS START
[01:47] <Cheri703> it is horrible and sad
[01:48] <canthus13> Cheri703: You could go outside and play...
[01:49] <Cheri703> not easily...I want a trike :(
[01:49] <Cheri703> I told husband he'll have to build me one once he's a welder :)
[01:50] <canthus13> Heh.
[01:50] <Cheri703> "there is no doubt I am responsible, I need to do what needs to be done!"
[01:50] <Cheri703> -_-
[01:51] <canthus13> That sounds like an anime subtitle.
[01:51] <Cheri703> yeah
[01:52] <canthus13> Could watch anime....
[01:52] <Cheri703> no
[01:52] <canthus13> Armitage is pretty good.
[01:53] <Cheri703> meh
[01:53] <canthus13> I imagine you've prolly watched Firefly already?
[01:53] <Cheri703> I can never get into anime
[01:53] <canthus13> I can't get into most anime, but there's a few here and there that I've liked.
[01:53] <Cheri703> yes, twice through in the past year actually, once alone, once to introduce husband
[01:53] <canthus13> Dr. Who? Torchwood?
[01:54] <Cheri703> have watched all Dr. who since christopher eccleston, all torchwood except the newest
[01:54] <Cheri703> though I'm not caught up on the current season of dr who, I suppose I could look for those
[01:54] <canthus13> The current season rocks.
[01:54] <Cheri703> kk
[01:54] <canthus13> They've been quite the mindf*ck so far. :)
[01:55] <canthus13> Stargate SG-1, Atlantis, and Universe.. that's about 20 seasons worth of shows.
[01:56] <Cheri703> have watched all of those
[01:56] <Cheri703> (though stopped with sg1 at the point that atlantis broke off, because I remember them getting crappy once the ori and whatnot showed up)
[01:56] <canthus13> Futurama...
[01:57] <canthus13> Hercules/Xena...
[01:57] <Cheri703> meh, I never got into futurama or the simpsons, hate family guy
[01:57] <Cheri703> oooo, used to watch those
[01:57] <Cheri703> might take a look
[01:57] <canthus13> I've been working my way through hercules. :)
[01:57] <Cheri703> :)
[01:57] <canthus13> ...and I've got Xena waiting after that.
[01:58] <canthus13> Almost 100 gigs between the two.
[01:58] <Cheri703> ooo, about a year and a half ago I went through all seasons (and movies) of "the pretender"
[01:58] <Cheri703> I used to love that show when I was younger
[01:58] <canthus13> Ooo... Forgot about that one.
[01:58] <Cheri703> they were ALL on hulu at that point
[01:58] <canthus13> I believe my parents have all the episodes on DVD.  I should rip them.
[01:59] <Cheri703> which came first? xena or hercules?
[02:00] <canthus13> Hercules.
[02:00] <canthus13> Xena shows up at some point in the first 2 or 3 seasons.
[02:00] <canthus13> Kicks his butt a few times,c auses all sorts of trouble.. then turns good.
[02:00] <Cheri703> ah, gotcha
[02:01] <canthus13> bah... < 400GB left on my media server. :(
[02:02] <Cheri703> hehe, I only have a 320gb drive in mine
[02:02] <Cheri703> I tend to watch and delete
[02:02] <Cheri703> only save stuff I really would watch again OR would pass on to others
[02:02] <Unit193> What's the server running?
[02:02] <canthus13> Debian Lenny.
[02:02] <Cheri703> well, server shmerver
[02:02] <Cheri703> it's a desktop that I use as a server
[02:03]  * canthus13 needs to add a couple of more drives.
[02:05] <Cheri703> canthus13: where do the tv movies fit in chronologically with hercules?
[02:06] <Cheri703> holy f this movie is horrible
[02:07] <Cheri703> it's like a bad community college theater class
[02:07] <canthus13> All before the shows, I believe.
[02:08] <Cheri703> ah, ok
[02:08] <canthus13> and the 4th movie is really just a recap of the previous 3 iirc.
[02:09] <Cheri703> heh
[02:11] <dmcglone1> I am bored!
[02:11] <dmcglone1> lol
[02:11] <Cheri703> me too
[02:12] <dmcglone1> smack me Cheri703
[02:12]  * Cheri703 won't say she isn't into that, but not with non-spouse ;)
[02:12] <dmcglone1> Oh jeez, I meant smack me to make the boredom go away
[02:12] <Cheri703> hehe
[02:13] <canthus13> ...That would make the boredom go away. :)
[02:13] <dmcglone1> I know now I will need to start clarifying things better
[02:13]  * Cheri703 is in a weird mood
[02:13]  * dmcglone1 is always in a weird mood
[02:13]  * canthus13 is weird.
[02:13]  * dmcglone1 was born weird
[02:14]  * dmcglone1 takes weird to a hole new level
[02:14] <canthus13> Oh.. now you bring up holes.
[02:15] <dmcglone1> oh shit!
[02:15] <canthus13> Heh.
[02:15] <dmcglone1> Whole that is
[02:15] <canthus13> good old Freud...
[02:15] <Unit193> Good dmy
[02:15] <Cheri703> I don't know if I can stand another 15 minutes of this (it is almost over)
[02:16] <dmcglone1> well thanks Cheri703, just trying to liven things up ;-)
[02:16] <Cheri703> it is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo bad
[02:16] <Cheri703> dmcglone1: this craptastic movie
[02:16] <dmcglone1> freakin friday night and we are pathetic
[02:17] <Unit193> What's wrong with this? TC show and computers...
[02:17] <Cheri703> >.< they're in a truck taking them to their deaths in berlin and so that is OBVIOUSLY an ideal time to strip down and get busy o.O
[02:17] <dmcglone1> Cheri703: watching craptastic movies, I'm stuck on the floor with a bad back, canthus13 well.....
[02:17] <canthus13> Cheri703: Of course... Gotta get rid of any extra weight, and warm up so you can run.
[02:17] <Unit193> He has overtime...
[02:17] <Cheri703> mmhm
[02:17] <canthus13> Sounds reasonable to me.
[02:18]  * canthus13 quit running naked soon after college... :/
[02:18] <dmcglone1> sounds like a shitty horror movie where the victim runs for miles and the killer just walks and still catches them
[02:18]  * Cheri703 has all kinds of responses but isn't going to go into that because this is a family friendly channel
[02:18] <Cheri703> at least generally
[02:19] <Unit193> *supposed to be
[02:19] <Cheri703> shield your eyes Unit193
[02:19] <canthus13> Heh.
[02:19] <Unit193> Ziw...
[02:20] <dmcglone1> I'm pretty sure Unit193 knows what "craptastic" means ;-)
[02:21] <dmcglone1> Couldn't be no worse than paul rippin the F word like 50,000 times in one conversation ;-)
[02:23] <Cheri703> last line of the movie "guten tag mother f-ers"  said without any hint of the intermittent accent that she sort of tried to have at points in the movie and gave up on at others...
[02:23] <dmcglone1> My back is starting to feel very good :-)
[02:24] <Cheri703> now for a movie starring 50 cent and val kilmer, SURE to be a winner >.>
[02:24] <dmcglone1> but It's got me worried, cause now when I walk, I can feel my spine poping a little
[02:24] <canthus13> Cheri703: Ever watch Band of Brothers?
[02:24] <dmcglone1> I hate 50 cent
[02:24] <Cheri703> back in the day
[02:25] <canthus13> That's definitely worth a second watch... and The Pacific is almost as good.
[02:25] <Unit193> dmcglone1: That is really annoying when paul does that...
[02:26] <dmcglone1> I watch "The Goonies" :-)
[02:26] <dmcglone1> I'm a goonie
[02:26] <canthus13> Band of Brothers was when I realized that Donnie Wahlberg was a pretty good actor.
[02:27] <dmcglone1> isn't he from that kiddie band "new kids on the block"?
[02:27] <canthus13> Yep.
[02:27] <canthus13> He's done some really good acting work...
[02:27] <Cheri703> it's not a kiddie band, it's a "women in their 30's who used to listen to them and still do" band
[02:27]  * Cheri703 had a roommate obsessed with them
[02:29] <canthus13> My sister and the girl across the street went to all their concerts when I lived in Missouri.
[02:29] <dmcglone1> Cheri703: you coming out of the closet?
[02:29] <dmcglone1> lol
[02:29] <Cheri703> ha, no
[02:30] <dmcglone1> I liked 2 of their songs, hangin tough and please don't go :-)
[02:30] <canthus13> dmcglone1: she's staying in the closet.
[02:31] <dmcglone1> I liked Vanilla Ice!
[02:31] <dmcglone1> LOL
[02:31] <Unit193> canthus13: And why not? You have so much more fun in there...
[02:31] <dmcglone1> LOL Unit193
[02:31] <dmcglone1> you bad... LOL
[02:32] <dmcglone1> I love Vanilla Ice's Ice Ice Baby with the Miami drop mix
[02:33] <dmcglone1> it's psychedelic!
[02:33] <canthus13> Unit193: Closets are kinda cramped...
[02:33] <Unit193> canthus13: You haven't been in the right ones...
[02:33] <Unit193> And that sounded bad....
[02:34] <canthus13> Unit193: You haven't been to the parties I've been to.  I've met some...interesting...closets. :)
[02:34]  * canthus13 spent 24 hours using recreational substances in a closet one time.
[02:34] <Unit193> o_0
[02:35]  * jgould blinks
[02:35] <canthus13> jgould: heh.
[02:35] <canthus13> jgould: you picked a perfect moment to pop in.
[02:36] <jgould> I noticed...
[02:37] <jgould> stupid Apple networking hardware...
[02:38] <jgould> Hey Erk
[02:38] <TheErk> Good evening.
[02:40] <Cheri703> o/
[02:41] <TheErk> How is everyone?
[02:41] <dmcglone1> Doing good TheErk
[02:41] <Cheri703> BORED
[02:41] <dmcglone1> still bound to the floor with my back, but otherwise good
[02:44] <dmcglone1> I'm about to take this EXCITING party upstairs and relax! ;-)
[02:44] <Cheri703> wow I can't even understand half of what 50 cent is saying
[02:44] <Cheri703> he mumbles a lot
[02:45] <dmcglone1> Cheri703: thats cuz he's always got a dick in his mouth!
[02:45] <Cheri703> ...really? was that necessary?
[02:45] <dmcglone1> Yes!
[02:45] <dmcglone1> I hate him
[02:45] <Cheri703> it's because he got shot in the mouth when he was younger
[02:45] <Cheri703> even if you hate him that wasn't really a necessary comment
[02:46] <dmcglone1> well if he wasn't slinging drugs and prostituting women he wouldn't have got shot
[02:46] <Cheri703> entirely possible
[02:46] <Cheri703> but homophobic slurs aren't really useful to anyone
[02:46] <dmcglone1> oh well
[02:49] <dmcglone1> You get upset with me when I joke about women but you defend him when he swipes credit cards between a womans ass cheeks on television
[02:50] <TheErk> ...
[02:51] <jgould> O.o
[02:51] <TheErk> THAT's why he sounds like that.
[02:51] <TheErk> I knew it was something like that.
[02:53] <jgould> I've never heard him talk
[02:53] <Cheri703> didn't say I'm defending him at all
[02:53] <Cheri703> just don't appreciate the homophobic slurs
[02:53] <Cheri703> though I do appreciate the line "I love you like a fat kid loves cake" :)
[02:54] <jgould> I've seen faces that only a mother could love when I work, and those happen quite often
[02:55] <Cheri703> those what?
[02:55] <jgould> faces
[02:56] <TheErk> BTW.. how does stating he has a penis in his mouth constitute homophobia?
[02:56] <TheErk> I'm fine if he has a penis in his mouth.
[02:56] <TheErk> I just think he should take it out before recording.
[02:56] <Cheri703> the inference that he's gay as a pejorative
[02:57] <Unit193> This is supposed to be a family friendly channel is what's wrong with it (not homophobia)
[02:57] <Cheri703> that too
[02:57] <TheErk> My family would be fine with this conversation.  :-D
[02:57] <Cheri703> youngsters show up sometimes
[02:57] <Cheri703> as well as people from varying backgrounds
[02:58] <jgould> this is  true
[02:58] <Cheri703> the whole idea is to be WELCOMING
[02:58] <Cheri703> and if I'd just logged in and seen that comment, I'd be like, "whoa....leaving"
[02:58] <jgould> heh. the dog jumped on the couch and took out my magsafe connector....
[02:59] <Unit193> ^^ That's family friendly
[02:59] <canthus13> Meh. 50 cent got shot years ago, still whines about it. Teddy Roosevelt got shot giving a speech, kept giving the speech.
[02:59] <Cheri703> eh, all I said was that he got shot and it impacted his speech
[03:00] <Cheri703> ooo, to tie together the two concepts: I had a friend whose dog got shot by their idiot neighbors
[03:00] <canthus13> Unit193: Homophobia is just as wrong and annoying...
[03:00] <Cheri703> they shot her a ton of times with a pellet gun
[03:00] <Cheri703> it was horrible, the pellets embedded in her skin
[03:00] <Cheri703> she had to have a ton of surgery and almost lost an eye
[03:00] <canthus13> Cheri703: My cat had one in her neck from neighborhood kids. :/
[03:01] <Cheri703> it was one of the higher powered oens
[03:01] <Cheri703> *ones
[03:01] <Cheri703> this movie has the guy who played nathan stark in eureka
[03:04]  * jgould is bored
[03:04] <Cheri703> +9869576598769
[03:04]  * jgould runs around the room screaming just to do something
[03:04] <canthus13> jgould: don't look for entertainment here... we're all boring.
[03:05] <jgould> He
[03:05] <jgould> h
[03:07] <jgould> I wonder if I would get something accomplished at my desk rather than the couch...
[03:07] <Cheri703> my couch is my desk generally
[03:07] <jgould> I haven't sat at my desk in a week.  It's feeling neglected
[03:08]  * jgould still thinks that if you remove a meta package it should remove everything that was installed by that package...
[03:10] <Cheri703> agreed
[03:10] <jgould> hmm, Looks like Stella and Company are in Madeira now, and that Stell will get my email in a few weeks when they get back...
[03:10] <Cheri703> aaand now we have a gross and old and fat val kilmer
[03:11] <jgould> hmm... I wonder why I have things like the middle of my top panel disapper from time to time...
[03:12] <canthus13> jgould: do they disappear? Or do they just rearrange themselves?
[03:12] <Unit193> Why vot?
[03:12] <jgould> disappear.  I can see my background in this, oh 3 inch gap right before my notificaion area starts...
[03:17] <canthus13> huh. Mine just rearrange themselves on every boot. :/
[03:20] <jgould> I'm using the default gnome menu now rahter than the customized Ubuntu one
[03:21] <canthus13> jgould: so canonical is punishing you for not liking their setup.
[03:22] <jgould> Heh...  now it's filled in... I dont' get it
[03:23] <dmcglone1> LOL we all have complained we are board jgould
[03:24] <dmcglone1> I was uploading some files for Unit193 and I to mess around with, and about to start writing my nomination for Cheri703 and send it
[03:24] <Cheri703> any former smokers? which is better: patch or gum?
[03:25] <Cheri703> even though I bust your chops dmcglone1? ;)
[03:25] <dmcglone1> Yup
[03:25] <Unit193> Cheri703: We still haven't heard from SMK
[03:26] <Cheri703> true Unit193
[03:26] <Unit193> Defaults do you?
[03:27] <dmcglone1> my nomination goes to Cheri703 cuz she bullys me and she held a gun to my head and threatened to torment me for the rest of my life if I didn't vote for her
[03:27] <Cheri703> :D
[03:27] <jgould> Heh
[03:27] <Unit193> dmcglone1: Encrypt your vote!
[03:28] <Unit193> How do you think I'm going to get away with doing it? ;)
[03:29] <jgould> ok... I just had part of my terminal window disappear...
[03:30] <dmcglone1> Unit193: Yup I'm gonna encrypt it with kick ass plain text :-)
[03:31] <dmcglone1> the best disguise is plain sight
[03:35] <jgould> It would be nice if Gmail would let you sign your mail...
[03:35] <canthus13> firegpg used to work with gmail...
[03:35] <jgould> Yeah, teh dev got tired of gmail breaking it with each change
[03:38]  * Unit193 just uses Alpine/Thunderbird for that
[03:39] <jgould> I've actually grown fond of using the web interface...
[03:40] <jgould> (Although if Thunderbird would have a unified inbox, taht woudl make me happier too
[03:49] <jgould> Hmm... I think my thorat is starting to get sore
[03:49] <canthus13> jgould: beer fixes that.
[03:51] <Unit193> canthus13 thinks beer fixes everything...
[03:52] <dmcglone1> so do I Unit193
[03:53] <canthus13> Unit193: No I don't.
[03:53]  * canthus13 has never attempted to fix his car with beer.
[03:53] <canthus13> Or my computer.
[03:53] <dmcglone1> beer: helping people have sex since 1800
[03:53] <dmcglone1> ;-)
[03:53]  * canthus13 never needed beer for that.
[03:54] <dmcglone1> viagra is crap, just drink a lot of beer :-)
[03:54] <jgould> I'll stick to orange juice...  I don't drink.  We could have a 6 pack in the fridge for 6 months before it's all gone
[03:54] <Unit193> dmcglone1: Beer gives you issues with that
[03:55] <dmcglone1> not me ;-)
[03:56]  * jgould bashes his head into the wall
[03:57] <dmcglone1> looks like jgould already has had a few ;-)
[03:58] <dmcglone1> watching a show about Alaska. I'd hate to live there
[03:58] <jgould> Heh
[03:58] <jgould> Their summers are like ours
[03:58]  * canthus13 would *LOVE* to live in AK... :)
[03:58] <dmcglone1> but their winters are dark and cold
[03:59] <dmcglone1> Alaska has the highest depression rate in people in the USA
[03:59] <canthus13> dmcglone1: I don't mind cold and dark winters. :)
[03:59]  * canthus13 likes 'em, actually.
[03:59] <dmcglone1> alaska is dark 6 months out of the year
[03:59] <Unit193> Cold....Mmmmm...
[03:59] <canthus13> I know.
[03:59] <jgould> I hate cold
[03:59] <Unit193> Heat is bad...
[03:59] <dmcglone1> so do I jgould
[04:00] <jgould> Cold is good for computers, bad for us... (although when it's 90 you can only take off so many layers leaglally...
[04:04] <canthus13> Woohoo! Son of Slam...
[04:05]  * Cheri703 would be SO HAPPY if husband actually quits smoking this time
[04:05] <canthus13> ohwow... Son of Slam is still around?
[04:06] <dmcglone1> Cheri703: why not just join him and light one up :-)
[04:06] <Cheri703> nope
[04:06] <jgould> damnit...  I can't install Enigmail because it's 32 bit, and Thunderbird is 64 Bit...
[04:07] <dmcglone1> my wife doesn't smoke either
[04:07] <canthus13> Cheri703: Quitting is tough... Took me several tries and about 18 years.
[04:07] <dmcglone1> I quit every night..... When I go to bed :-)
[04:07] <Cheri703> yeah, I was not ok with him starting in the first place (he used to, but had quit and was smoke-free when I met him / we started dating, then he started again
[04:08] <dmcglone1> I can see why... LMAO
[04:09]  * dmcglone1 sticks his face out so Cheri703 can slap it!
[04:09]  * Cheri703 kicks dmcglone1 in the face
[04:09] <dmcglone1> LOL
[04:09] <BiosElement> Lots of fighting as of late around here :P
[04:09]  * Cheri703 challenges BiosElement to a duel
[04:10] <dmcglone1> my wife hounds me to quit smoking too, I tell her if she would shut up for 5 minutes maybe I could ;-)
[04:10]  * BiosElement wins by default :P
[04:10] <Cheri703> nope
[04:11] <dmcglone1> I always win BiosElement, I just turn off my hearing aid :-p
[04:11] <jgould> LOL
[04:11] <dmcglone1> Huh?
[04:11] <dmcglone1> What?
[04:11] <dmcglone1> Sorry no can hear
[04:11] <dmcglone1> :-)
[04:12] <BiosElement> Hah
[04:15] <dmcglone1> I start doing non sense hand signals and light a cigarette
[04:16] <canthus13> dmcglone1: that just means you don't hear the china whizzing towards the back of your head...
[04:17] <Cheri703> +1 canthus13
[04:17] <dmcglone1> LOL Canthus, or the bowling balls :-/
[04:17] <canthus13> dmcglone1: if your wife can fling bowling balls like china, I feel for you.
[04:18] <dmcglone1> trust me she can. hasn't been at me, but I've seen her do it! LMAO
[04:18] <dmcglone1> she was pissed off at someone she bought a car off of and demolished that car with a bowling ball and sent it back to them!
[04:23] <jgould> You know what would be nice?  Having an actual key that sends a forward delete...
[04:24] <Cheri703> ?
[04:24] <canthus13> oh.. like a reverse backspace?
[04:25] <jgould> I dont have a delete key, just a backspace.  Delete is accomplished by fn+backspace
[04:25] <Cheri703> that would be your own fault for buying a mac
[04:25] <jgould> As I've said, if I knew I was going to be playing with Ubuntu, I would have gotten something else..
[04:26] <Cheri703> I'd still want a delete key if I was using not-ubuntu
[04:26] <canthus13> jgould: Oh.  I'm sure canonical would remove the delete key if they could.. you know, just to get closer to their target audience of mentally challenged snails.
[04:26] <BiosElement> canthus13: At least canonical isn't gnome. >.>
[04:26] <Cheri703> now now canthus13
[04:26] <Unit193> skellat: Did I miss your campain?
[04:26] <canthus13> Cheri703: What?
[04:27] <canthus13> BiosElement: worse than gnome.
[04:27] <skellat> Unit193: Campaign?  I campaigned?  I must have missed that memo....
[04:27] <BiosElement> Hah, now you're just trollin. >.>
[04:27] <Cheri703> quick mini-poll: how do you guys pronounce gnome? I say nome, some people say guh-nome, I've only heard one person ever say jee-nome
[04:28]  * canthus13 is turning into one of those people who sticks around for the community, but uses a different distro.
[04:28] <jgould> nome
[04:28] <BiosElement> canthus13: nome
[04:28] <canthus13> Cheri703: I've heard Nome and G-nome mostly lately... It's been years since I've heard it regularly pronounced genome.
[04:28] <skellat> Cheri703: Guh-No-Muh
[04:29] <Unit193> skellat: Cheri703 sent a msg to the ML (and put it on her wiki) Jacob said they were done, did I miss yours?
[04:29] <skellat> Unit193: My wiki page is here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/skellat
[04:29] <skellat> Unit193: No stump speech from me.
[04:30] <Unit193> skellat: Ah! We thought we might have missed it! (The wording really didn't work)
[04:31] <Cheri703> they said campaign, so I figured I should :)
[04:31] <skellat> Count the past two days of mailing list activity as the closest I've come to any sort of campaign
[04:32] <Cheri703> heh
[04:32] <skellat> I'm still quite baffled about the notion of punting things to regional lists that Michael Gilbert mentioned.  To the best of my knowledge, Paultag never set up any such thing for his bailiwick.
[04:32] <skellat> If it exists, I've never heard ofi t
[04:33] <canthus13> It's a bad idea.
[04:33] <TheErk> Campaign?  Is there where two big guys showed up and said if i enjoyed walking i should vote for Cheri?
[04:33] <canthus13> as I pointed out earlier, it leaves the smaller relocos out in the cold, really.
[04:33] <Cheri703> yeah, I think it's a horrible idea
[04:33]  * canthus13 examines TheErk's knees...
[04:33] <Cheri703> that makes it harder for people to find information
[04:33] <skellat> As to the podcast...purely regional stuff is fine by me.  Just send me stuff via Ubuntu One to skellat@fastmail.net and I can drop it in.
[04:33] <Cheri703> as it is, it's all in the archive of the mailing list
[04:33] <BiosElement> Having sub-lists for somethings is fine, but it's not like the list is super high traffic..
[04:34] <jgould> I agree with skellat and Cheri703
[04:34] <Cheri703> activity is NEVER a bad thing (unless it's inane chatter between two people, then they can take it off list)
[04:34] <skellat> I'm always happen when I can get the running time on The Burning Circle above 60 seconds.
[04:34] <Cheri703> if it is involving more than 3 people's input, then it belongs on the list, in my opinion, or at least it's not "abusing" the list
[04:34] <jgould> I'm on lists tha tgenerate 100 messages a day.... that's a high traffic list
[04:35] <BiosElement> The discussion is moot, it's a discussion list, not an announcement list.
[04:35] <skellat> It is merely a symbol of cultural difference.  It is like the war over top-posting and bottom-posting.  It'll never be resolved.
[04:35] <Cheri703> exactly BiosElement
[04:35] <jgould> Agreed BiosElement
[04:35] <canthus13> careful... We're probably spamming the channel right now. :/
[04:36] <dmcglone1> why can't it be both?
[04:36] <Cheri703> it is both
[04:36]  * skellat shakes head 
[04:36] <jgould> Most of the stuff that comes though on most of my lists is stuff I don't care about
[04:36] <Cheri703> it is not ONLY an announcement list
[04:36] <canthus13> skellat: Heh. the last time people got upset about mailing list traffic was a silly argument over top vs bottom posting...
[04:36] <BiosElement> It is
[04:36] <skellat> canthus13: The best thing to do is read plenty of alt.sysadmin.recovery
[04:36] <canthus13> skellat: :D
[04:37] <Cheri703> (off topic, but I am bummed that cases for the nook (at least from B&N) won't be available til july 1, and I have no idea when 3rd party cases will come out :( and I don't want to wait 2 weeks for the nook :( and yes I'll probably complain about it til I get it, sorry :) )
[04:37] <jgould> That's why I buy things in stores,  I want it now, and don't want to wait
[04:38] <skellat> Cheri703: Nooks and other such things count as "portable computer" in the taxonomy mix at work.  Would Unity work well on a Nook if it was properly rooted?
[04:38] <Cheri703> I don't think so, because of the e-ink screen, probably on a nook color
[04:38] <skellat> Ah.
[04:38] <canthus13> Hah. A nook... possibly the only useful application for Unity.
[04:39] <jgould> I don't think so...
[04:39] <skellat> I've been seeing Pandigital devices come and go.  Their boxes call them ebook readers but they've got basic Android functionality like any ol' tablet.
[04:39]  * jgould has pondered getting a kindle, bu is happy wiht his Sony Reader
[04:40] <Cheri703> I'm getting the new e-ink nook
[04:40]  * skellat is intent on never getting an e-reader and prefers to stick with paper-based codices
[04:40] <Cheri703> canthus13: someone had ubuntu running on an ipad at uds
[04:40] <jgould> someone had Ubuntu running on an iPad?
[04:40] <jgould> Heh
[04:40] <Cheri703> skellat: I'm mainly getting it for reading pdf manuals and study guides that give me headaches on the computer
[04:40] <Cheri703> jgould: the guy I was asking about your mac dilemmas
[04:40] <canthus13> Cheri703: Wow. I'll be Steve Jobs is trying to figure out a way to sure them...
[04:41] <canthus13> s/sure/sue/
[04:41] <skellat> Cheri703: That's where things get me.  I end up knowing how to get print jobs done at FedexOffice all too well.
[04:41] <Cheri703> yeah, I have no desire to print a 1600 page book...
[04:41] <Cheri703> so I will get an ereader and do it that way
[04:42] <skellat> Cheri703: What sort of texts are these?
[04:42] <jgould> I already have most of my Cert manuals in PDF as well as dead tree,  I don't want to carry around a 1600 page book
[04:42] <Cheri703> there are some cert manuals, also some about learning to use various software tools
[04:43] <Cheri703> I used to read a TON as a kid, but I don't read nearly as much these days, don't like lugging around books, so I think it will help me read more general books as well
[04:43] <jgould> Cheri703: I'm with you on the reading as a kid and not reading too much now
[04:43] <skellat> I remember library school...walking around Clarion University of Pennsylvania's campus lugging all four volumes of the 21st edition of Dewey Decimal Classification plus Sears classification headings book...things were heavy and still don't have GOOD electronic counterparts.
[04:43] <canthus13> Eh? There are books that don't deal strictly with technology and how it works?
[04:44] <jgould> LOL
[04:44] <TheErk> That's it for me.. night peeps
[04:44] <jgould> Night Erk
[04:44] <skellat> TheErk: Goodnight
[04:44] <Cheri703> yeah jgould, for a while I was reading a novel a week (or more) about 6-7 months ago, that was more than I'd read in YEARS, but going to the library all the time was a hassle and so I stopped :/
[04:44] <Cheri703> so this will be awesome for me
[04:45] <jgould> Any one know if I can import my PGP key into the MacOS?
[04:45] <canthus13> jgould: I don't see why not...
[04:45] <skellat> jgould: Yes, provided you installed gnupg via MacPorts
[04:46] <Cheri703> gnupg is one of few things where I (mentally at least) pronounce the guh sound "guhnewpg" :)
[04:46] <Cheri703> and it's like a mix between pug and pig :)
[04:46] <jgould> so it's a puggy pig?
[04:46] <Cheri703> most pugs are piggy
[04:46] <skellat> It could be worse.  I look at gnupg and just say crypto package
[04:46] <Cheri703> hehe
[04:46] <jgould> LOL skellat
[04:47]  * Cheri703 may have already acquired ebook versions of the remaining books in the series she was reading voraciously several months ago
[04:47] <Cheri703> I think the gnupg thing is because I have guinea pigs, and for some reason it reminds me of them :)
[04:48]  * skellat grew up in Slavic Village in Cleveland and knows when there can be vowel deficits making life even odder
[04:48] <Cheri703> hehe
[04:49] <Cheri703> sometimes I call the guinea pigs my "guh-piggies"
[04:49] <canthus13> guinea pigs are supposed to be pretty tasty...
[04:49]  * canthus13 needs to find a restaurant that serves them.
[04:50] <Cheri703> there's some restaurant in cbus (or at least there was) that was the amazon grill or something, maybe they do/did
[04:50] <canthus13> Hmm...
[04:51]  * skellat wonders if canthus13 is a Visitor from the V series
[04:51] <Unit193> You were watching that too?
[04:51] <Unit193> Mr Sunshine is the one I'm sad about....
[04:51] <canthus13> skellat: Beh. The new V sucked.
[04:52]  * canthus13 could barely make it through 3 episodes.
[04:52] <skellat> Not everything starring Morena Baccarin can be good
[04:52] <Cheri703> my eyes are getting tired :/
[04:52]  * canthus13 wants a reimagined Alien Nation.
[04:52] <canthus13> Cheri703: So are mine.. and it's not quite midnight yet.. weird.
[04:53] <Cheri703> I think my eyes get more tired on days I spend time outside...as sad as that is. I'm much more sensitive to light these days, especially sunlight. I need to remember my sunglasses better
[04:54] <jgould> Really?  doing an rsync from the laptop to the server kills the networking from the lapttop?
[04:54] <Cheri703> ok boys, I'm going to read this book some more, if I don't finish it before the nook comes, I'll likely not go back to it. ping me if I'm needed
[04:55] <skellat> I gotta say goodnight too.
[04:56]  * jgould is getting tired of having problems in Ubuntu on the MacBook
[04:56] <dmcglone1> g'night all
[04:57] <jgould> I may have to stick to Linux on the server and go back to the Mac OS as the prrimary on the laptop...
[05:05] <Cheri703> I waited too long to start reading my book, headache :(
[05:09]  * jgould grumbles
[05:10] <canthus13> jgould: router?
[05:10] <jgould> Si
[05:11] <jgould> I also just lost all networking from the laptop...
[05:11] <Cheri703> :/
[05:11] <Unit193> jgould: I had thought you would go sooner (With reason)
[05:11] <Cheri703> are you using the wifi adapter or?
[05:11] <jgould> go where?
[05:11]  * canthus13 would sell the macbook for an equivalent dell or system76.
[05:12] <jgould> That was the wired adaptor
[05:12] <Cheri703> ah
[05:12] <Unit193> jgould: Go with another OS that works
[05:13] <jgould> Wifey says that if I sell the MacBook, I can't buy a new laptop with the money, that we have to use the money on bills...
[05:13] <Cheri703> :/
[05:13] <Unit193> Do you have a desktop?
[05:13]  * Cheri703 would probably say that to husband...IF he had another computery toy
[05:14] <jgould> The Mac Mini, nothing overly portable.
[05:14]  * Cheri703 would be ok with a direct swap, but no extra money spent on the replacement :)
[05:15] <jgould> so what I do is buy the replacement, get it set up and running and then sell the MB
[05:16] <jgould> And, Unit193, I'm pretty close to going back to the MacOS for the time being.
[05:16] <Cheri703> ah, that wouldn't fly for me
[05:16] <Cheri703> it'd be: sell mb, however much you get out of it is what you have to spend on new one :)
[05:17] <jgould> Cheri703: I would make back what I spent on machine from Sys76.  (And I'd keep my 8GB of RAM...)
[05:19] <jgould> I would really like to know why rsync dies when backing up my ~ dir..
[05:21] <jgould> Maybe it only died when the router hiccuped
[05:21] <Unit193> jgould: Still going to stick around if you don't get the Sys76 soon? (Just say you have an Ubuntu server)
[05:21] <jgould> Unit193: I have two machines running Server Ed
[05:22] <Unit193> Can I have a shell account on one? :P
[05:22] <jgould> :P
[05:22] <Cheri703> you can still be here if you aren't currently using ubuntu
[05:22] <Cheri703> we won't kick anyone out
[05:23] <jgould> That was waht I asked BiosElement before the natty launch party thing at the library down town: Would y'all accecpt someone that was running the MacOS as a primary OS?
[05:23] <jgould> XD
[05:24] <Unit193> Just say it's Macbuntu ;)
[05:24] <Cheri703> hopefully he had the same response!
[05:24] <jgould> He did
[05:24] <Cheri703> phew
[05:25] <jgould> I've tried to drop to a console (not a terminal session) in the MacOS by pressing Ctrl+alt+f1.  It didnt' work :(
[05:25] <Cheri703> it is frustrating that to have my netbook in a place that is comfortable to type while laying down (hands around waist area), the text is just barely decipherable, and mostly only if I squint...to have the computer where I can read it easily, I have t-rex arms and type like the back of my hands are almost against my chin :/
[05:25] <Cheri703> *without my glasses on
[05:26] <jgould> I can pretty much see nothing without my glasses
[05:26] <Cheri703> I can see maybe 18 inches clearly...on a good day
[05:26] <canthus13> Sounds familiar.
[05:26] <Cheri703> I HATE IT
[05:27] <Cheri703> I have worn bifocals since I was 22
[05:27] <canthus13> No bifocals, fortunately.
[05:27] <Cheri703> there was some older woman talking to me about wearing glasses, she was like, "yeah, I got mine when I turned 50, I hated them! I felt so old!" I went -_-
[05:27]  * Unit193 doesn't have glasses
[05:27] <Unit193> ...yet
[05:28] <Cheri703> and when I said 22, she was like "WHOA!"
[05:28] <jgould> Hmmm.... Lost the networking again from the laptop it seems
[05:28] <jgould> Cheri: I've had mine since I was 2
[05:28] <Cheri703> *got mine = bifocals
[05:28] <Cheri703> bifocals?
[05:29] <jgould> single vision
[05:29] <Cheri703> ah
[05:29]  * jgould can wear kids frames
[05:29] <jgould> still
[05:29]  * jgould is almost 30
[05:29] <Cheri703> yeah, when I was a kid, i was far-sighted, wore reading glasses, as I got older I became near-sighted :(
[05:30] <jgould> My left optic nerve didn't develop, so I'm something like 20/200 in that eye
[05:30] <Cheri703> that sounds like TheMuso
[05:30] <Cheri703> something neuropathy?
[05:30] <Cheri703> maybe?
[05:31] <Cheri703> he has very limited sight in one eye, none in the other (I believe)
[05:32] <jgould> Nope...  I was born in the 28th week of pregnancy
[05:32] <Cheri703> ah
[05:32] <jgould> I even got my picture in the paper
[05:34]  * jgould got a hat becuase he was a preemie
[05:34] <Cheri703> hehe
[05:34] <canthus13> all babies get hats.
[05:34] <canthus13> ugly little knit caps.
[05:34] <jgould> I was the first baby in Riverside's NICU...  It wasn't ready for kids wehn they put me in
[05:35] <jgould> Now they do, canthus13.  that may have started with me
[05:35] <Cheri703> that explains a LOT ;)
[05:36] <jgould> :P
[05:38]  * jgould grumbles because his home network is un-fucking-reliable
[05:41] <canthus13> jgould: I've got a netgear router that's pretty reliable... It's yours if you can get it. :)
[05:44]  * Unit193 is going crazy because he doesn't have enough info on both candidates to contrast them...
[05:47] <jgould> well that was diffrent
[05:49] <jgould> just my connection to the server dropped
[05:53] <jgould_> Ok... this is getting annoying
[05:53] <Unit193> There are now two of you...
[05:54] <jgould_> Yeah, session on the server, and Xchat on the laptop
[05:58] <jgould_> So you're surprised that I haven't just gone back to an OS that 'just works' yet, huh?
[05:58] <Unit193> No
[05:59]  * jgould_ blinks
[05:59] <Unit193> With all the issues, I would have thought you would have gotten anything that worked at this point
[06:00] <jgould_> with the way this thing is acting tonight, i may be back in the MacOS by morning...
[06:04] <jgould_> It may not hurt to go back to the Mac OS and wait for 11.10 to release and try this again...
[07:05] <BiosElement> I think I worked out why nvidia hated me so much
[07:05] <BiosElement> But I'm not exactly sure what I did to fix it >.>
[08:08] <Unit193> Welcome back!
[09:17]  * jgould_ does not understand this and bashes his head into the desk
[09:22] <jgould_> Also, I seem to have lost my ability to right click in Firefox now...
[09:56]  * jgould grumbles
[11:49] <jgould> More than one way to skin a cat...
[16:05] <Cheri703> hey canthus13: on the kevin sorbo theme: you could watch Andromeda
[16:16] <Cheri703> jgould: maybe check out cup o joe or whatever
[17:27] <canthus13> Heh... "24 astronauts were born in Ohio.  What is it about this state that makes people want to flee the Earth?"
[18:11] <Cheri703> how horrible a person would I be if I went to b&n monday, bought a "1st edition" nook, used it for 2 weeks, and then returned it for the new one?
[21:39] <canthus13> Cheri703: :)
[21:39] <Cheri703> pondering it...probably won't though
[21:39] <Cheri703> very tempted
[21:40] <canthus13> It's kinda rude....
[21:41] <Cheri703> yeah
[21:41] <Cheri703> wal-renting
[21:41] <canthus13> Heh.
[21:41] <canthus13> Never heard it called that before...
[21:51] <Unit193> Isn't Cleveland Area ReLoCo now missing it's lead? (No longer Paul T?)
[21:52] <paultag> Unit193: right :)
[21:53] <Unit193> paultag: Was trying not to ping ya
[21:54] <paultag> Unit193: you did'nt :)
[21:55] <Unit193> paultag: Nice to keep you around (In both channels ;) )
[21:56] <paultag> :)
[21:56] <paultag> BBL
[21:59] <Cheri703> you've never heard wal-rent canthus13?
[21:59] <Cheri703> (was on another window for a while, freaking lack of channel notification :( )
[22:03] <Unit193> I just ignore some of the others...
[23:17]  * jgould wanders in
[23:18] <Unit193> Howdy hoho!
[23:18] <jgould> o/
[23:19] <jgould> So, it looks like we might be getting somewhere with the location for the Cbus ReLoCo UH...
[23:20] <Unit193> I got to see some of that!
[23:20] <jgould> I kow
[23:20] <jgould> er I know
[23:20] <jgould> helps if I push the keys down...
[23:22] <jgould> I still would prefer that ReLoCo business is handled on the main list as there doesn't seem to be any default moderation... (and you get people that don't know about the 'other' list...)
[23:23] <Unit193> I updated the wiki (kicked paultag out) if I wasn't supposed to, revert
[23:24] <jgould> How do you think paultag feels about being kicked out? :)
[23:25] <Unit193> He isn't crying and he didn't +b me
[23:26] <jgould> Heh
[23:27] <Unit193> ...Yet
[23:27] <jgould> Oh what I wouldn't give for the interal wifi to work...
[23:29] <jgould> So since I live in Columbus, do I have an excuse to not Attend OLF?
[23:30] <Unit193> Are you washing your hair that day?
[23:30] <Unit193> Or if you have a hare....
[23:31] <Unit193> Painting your driveway?
[23:32]  * jgould blinks.  Eh?
[23:32] <jgould> Does a Cert from LPI actually get you nayrthing?
[23:41] <canthus13> Sure. It gets you a paper saying you know your linux stuff. :)
[23:41] <canthus13> ...and makes you look good if you're applying for a linux-specific job.  It's one of the more respected linux certs.
[23:42] <jgould> I would also know my shit when it comes to my home machines too...
[23:47] <jgould> Hmm...  I want to go to Microcenter and look around...
[23:49] <jgould> I'll be back in a bit
[23:51]  * Unit193 hasn't been to microcenter